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Post by Ravi on Apr 22, 2016 11:37:23 GMT -5
Predictions: Rank | Song | Sales | Airplay | Streams | Points | 1 | Panda | 110 | 45 | 35.0 | 45,900 | 2 | 7 Years | 100 | 120 | 16.5 | 36,700 | 3/4 | Work | 45 | 85 | 24.0 | 33,500 | 3/4 | One Dance | 85 | 45 | 23.0 | 33,100 | 5 | I Took A Pill in Ibiza
| 70 | 105 | 13.0 | 29,100 | 6/7 | Work From Home | 75 | 70 | 15.5 | 28,300 | 6/7 | NO | 95 | 90 | 10.5 | 28,300 | 8 | PILLOWTALK | 50 | 100 | 13.5 | 26,800 | 9 | Love Yourself | 35 | 135 | 9.5 | 25,300 | 10/11 | Cake By The Ocean | 40 | 105 | 10.5 | 23,700 | 10/11 | Me, Myself & I | 35 | 95 | 12.0 | 23,400 | 12/13 | My House | 60 | 80 | 9.5 | 22,600 | 12/13 | Stressed Out | 35 | 100 | 10.5 | 22,600 |
* "Panda" will be #1 by a significant margin, while "7 Years" will comfortably be #2. * "One Dance" should storm into Top-5 this week, and if it can get slightly more airplay/streaming, it might even beat Work for #3. * I really really hope ITAPII gets into Top-5 this week..... it has the upper hand but is not entirely safe from NO/WFH. * Love Yourself will have record-extending 23rd week in Top-10 while PILLOWTALK will also have another week. * The last spot in Top-10 will go to MMI or CBTO....going to be close!
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Post by MTSChart21 on Apr 22, 2016 11:38:32 GMT -5
ONE DANCE #4??? Are we looking at Drake's first #1?
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Post by Verisimilitude on Apr 22, 2016 11:43:05 GMT -5
Spotify US Top 200 Weekly Streaming Chart 4/21/16:
Position Track Name Artist Streams
1 One Dance Drake 11236246 2 Panda Desiigner 9373537 3 Work Rihanna 6694798 4 Work from Home Fifth Harmony 6510692 5 I Took A Pill In Ibiza - Seeb Remix Mike Posner 6039332 6 7 Years Lukas Graham 5758192 7 Don't Let Me Down The Chainsmokers 5442418 8 Pop Style Drake 5356068 9 PILLOWTALK ZAYN 5230409 10 Me, Myself & I G-Eazy 5176496 11 Dangerous Woman Ariana Grande 4657180 12 Low Life Future 4420314 13 Never Forget You Zara Larsson 4415642 14 Middle DJ Snake 4239715 15 Needed Me Rihanna 4015757 16 Father Stretch My Hands Pt. 1 Kanye West 3969726 17 2 Phones Kevin Gates 3965339 18 My House Flo Rida 3955925 19 Famous Kanye West 3824561 20 Roses The Chainsmokers 3753023 21 NO Meghan Trainor 3677806 22 Cheap Thrills Sia 3647336 23 Close Nick Jonas 3591058 24 Jumpman Drake 3469067 25 Wild Things Alessia Cara 3414516 26 Light It Up (feat. Nyla & Fuse ODG) - Remix Major Lazer 3380308 27 oui Jeremih 3360310 28 Stressed Out Twenty One Pilots 3321395 29 Cake By The Ocean DNCE 3316285 30 Fast Car - Radio Edit Jonas Blue 3244111 31 Gold Kiiara 3193935 32 Love Yourself Justin Bieber 3135160 33 YOUTH Troye Sivan 3002309 34 i hate u, i love u (feat. olivia o'brien) gnash 2978691 35 Waves Kanye West 2972036 36 Don't Bryson Tiller 2931423 37 Never Be Like You (feat. Kai) Flume 2927778 38 Exchange Bryson Tiller 2836270 39 Pt. 2 Kanye West 2807642 40 LIKE I WOULD ZAYN 2686321 41 Hands To Myself Selena Gomez 2679594 42 Sorry Justin Bieber 2671981 43 Lush Life Zara Larsson 2626594 44 All My Friends Snakehips 2569854 45 Sex Cheat Codes 2450915 46 Summer Sixteen Drake 2444281 47 Hide Away Daya 2407770 48 No Role Modelz J. Cole 2372140 49 Working For It ZHU 2323935 50 Once In A While Timeflies 2202084 51 Ultralight Beam Kanye West 2191009 52 Faded Alan Walker 2122350 53 Stay Kygo 2102393 54 White Iverson Post Malone 2101990 55 Come and See Me (feat. Drake) PARTYNEXTDOOR 2093927 56 Company Justin Bieber 2024841 57 Uber Everywhere Madeintyo 1960620 58 What Do You Mean? Justin Bieber 1904462 59 Sugar (feat. Francesco Yates) Robin Schulz 1849514 60 Cut It (feat. Young Dolph) O.T. Genasis 1820479 61 Let It Go James Bay 1813140 62 If It Ain't Love Jason Derulo 1809931 63 Sit Still, Look Pretty Daya 1805970 64 Hotline Bling Drake 1801328 65 The Hills The Weeknd 1794164 66 Pity Party Melanie Martinez 1789112 67 Rock Bottom Hailee Steinfeld 1784011 68 FML Kanye West 1764292 69 I Know What You Did Last Summer Shawn Mendes 1752176 70 Ophelia The Lumineers 1734453 71 Colors Halsey 1702937 72 Ride Twenty One Pilots 1693402 73 Promise Kid Ink 1685375 74 679 (feat. Remy Boyz) Fetty Wap 1659203 75 Team Iggy Azalea 1657451 76 Back To Back Drake 1645054 77 In My Room (feat. Ty Dolla $ign & Tyga) Yellow Claw 1642816 78 Jimmy Choo Fetty Wap 1641626 79 Bang my Head (feat. Sia & Fetty Wap) David Guetta 1617258 80 Really Really Kevin Gates 1604939 81 Antidote Travi$ Scott 1558974 82 Down In the DM Yo Gotti 1556102 83 Can't Feel My Face The Weeknd 1514350 84 Hello Adele 1487048 85 Lean On (feat. MØ & DJ Snake) Major Lazer 1479259 86 Sorry Not Sorry Bryson Tiller 1472850 87 Trap Queen Fetty Wap 1466847 88 Big Rings Drake 1450507 89 Real Friends Kanye West 1448212 90 Die A Happy Man Thomas Rhett 1425174 91 Look Alive Rae Sremmurd 1410071 92 Fade Kanye West 1401452 93 Stitches Shawn Mendes 1398442 94 Running Out Matoma 1395936 95 Saved (feat. E-40) Ty Dolla $ign 1394163 96 Hollow Tori Kelly 1391980 97 All The Way Up Fat Joe 1379029 98 Wolves Kanye West 1371974 99 Lost Boy Ruth B 1363030 100 Sound Of Your Heart Shawn Hook 1353758 101 I Mean It G-Eazy 1340668 102 Say It Tory Lanez 1340253 103 Be Right There Diplo 1313444 104 Feedback Kanye West 1302693 105 Digits Young Thug 1302419 106 Wicked Future 1297210 107 Where Ya At Future 1264559 108 Bake Sale (feat. Travis Scott) Wiz Khalifa 1256342 109 One Call Away Charlie Puth 1249134 110 Again Fetty Wap 1170855 111 Where Are Ü Now (with Justin Bieber) Jack Ü 1166071 112 Highlights Kanye West 1162629 113 Weekend (feat. Miguel) Mac Miller 1156285 114 Acquainted The Weeknd 1128499 115 Order More G-Eazy 1122186 116 In The Night The Weeknd 1121364 117 Moolah Young Greatness 1107117 118 Wet Dreamz J. Cole 1092754 119 F*ck Up Some Commas Future 1090106 120 Here Alessia Cara 1080259 121 Somewhere On A Beach Dierks Bentley 1075437 122 Valet (feat. Fetty Wap and 2 Chainz) Eric Bellinger 1071077 123 Kiss It Better Rihanna 1055444 124 Planez Jeremih 1047716 125 Calm Down G-Eazy 1039470 126 Thinking Out Loud Ed Sheeran 1035406 127 Often The Weeknd 1025703 128 T-Shirt Thomas Rhett 1022935 129 Be Alright Ariana Grande 1021997 130 Energy Drake 1017315 131 See You Again (feat. Charlie Puth) - From "Furious 7" Wiz Khalifa 1011962 132 Best Friend Young Thug 1004046 133 Hercules Young Thug 1002261 134 No More Parties In LA Kanye West 990128 135 Body Dreezy 973008 136 Drunk On Your Love Brett Eldredge 971585 137 Flex (Ooh, Ooh, Ooh) Rich Homie Quan 968334 138 Adventure Of A Lifetime Coldplay 966535 139 Facts (Charlie Heat Version) Kanye West 965337 140 Watch Out 2 Chainz 954752 141 Déjà vu TWENTY88 947924 142 Might Not Belly 944395 143 Confession Florida Georgia Line 938748 144 Freestyle 4 Kanye West 935233 145 Come Get Her Rae Sremmurd 930665 146 G.O.M.D. J. 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Post by Ravi on Apr 22, 2016 11:46:24 GMT -5
ONE DANCE #4??? Are we looking at Drake's first #1? Maybe even #3!! And yes it has a good shot at #1 as Panda is slowing down now........ unless his team screws it up again. They really need to time the video release well.
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Post by Kris on Apr 22, 2016 11:48:42 GMT -5
It baffles me how much streaming is weighted
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Post by Dylan :) on Apr 22, 2016 11:48:52 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how many Prince songs (re)enter next week. What is the record for the most amount of songs on the Hot 100 from one artist? I always hope he manages to get a few top 10 songs.
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Post by Kris on Apr 22, 2016 11:50:27 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how many Prince songs (re)enter next week. What is the record for the most amount of songs on the Hot 100 from one artist? I always hope he manages to get a few top 10 songs. Taylor Swift had 14 from Speak Now, dunno if anyone's had more than that
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Post by skizzo on Apr 22, 2016 11:52:39 GMT -5
its too bad "Most Beautiful Girl In The World" wont be one of them, not available to download on I-Tunes pluts its not credited as a Prince song
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Post by MTSChart21 on Apr 22, 2016 11:56:24 GMT -5
ONE DANCE #4??? Are we looking at Drake's first #1? Maybe even #3!! And yes it has a good shot at #1 as Panda is slowing down now........ unless his team screws it up again. They really need to time the video release well. Yeah, he better not mess it up... again.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 11:57:12 GMT -5
its too bad "Most Beautiful Girl In The World" wont be one of them, not available to download on I-Tunes pluts its not credited as a Prince song I'm sad it's missing too. But regardless of the name attached, it's a Prince song and would be credited as such now. He's had several monikers, all of them are ultimately credited to Prince, just like his love symbol name, TAFKAP is no different. It even says Prince for The Most Beautiful Girl... in the Billboard H100 archives.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 12:35:02 GMT -5
Maybe even #3!! And yes it has a good shot at #1 as Panda is slowing down now........ unless his team screws it up again. They really need to time the video release well. Yeah, he better not mess it up... again. As long as the video isn't an exclusive and is made readily available to everyone all at once - and on a Friday or Saturday - this sure seems like an easy #1. But yeah...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 12:52:26 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how many Prince songs (re)enter next week. What is the record for the most amount of songs on the Hot 100 from one artist? I always hope he manages to get a few top 10 songs. Taylor Swift had 14 from Speak Now, dunno if anyone's had more than that Justin Bieber had 17 apparently
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Post by MTSChart21 on Apr 22, 2016 12:56:30 GMT -5
Taylor Swift had 14 from Speak Now, dunno if anyone's had more than that Justin Bieber had 17 apparently Yep, he had 17 out of 18 of his songs from "Purpose" (deluxe version) on the chart in the same week. (The only song that didn't make it was "All In It", which I believe got to #2 on the Bubbling Under chart on that same week)
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Post by Gary on Apr 22, 2016 12:56:43 GMT -5
Biebers record is safe. I don't see 18 songs making the top 50
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Post by MTSChart21 on Apr 22, 2016 12:59:53 GMT -5
Biebers record is safe. I don't see 18 songs making the top 50 Yeah, I agree
BTW, just for you: Top 5 posters in this thread (so far)Gary - 28 MTS - 19 (20 with this post) mikeramp - 14 Broccoli - 11 Mark G - 10
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Post by Gary on Apr 22, 2016 13:03:43 GMT -5
Biebers record is safe. I don't see 18 songs making the top 50 Yeah, I agree
BTW, just for you: Top 5 posters in this thread (so far)Gary - 28 MTS - 19 (20 with this post) mikeramp - 14 Broccoli - 11 Mark G - 10 LOL - Blame Prince for that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 13:08:32 GMT -5
damn, I'm only #5? Well after this post I guess I'd be tied for #4 but still anyway, I find it hard to believe WFH won't even be top 5. I thought it would pass Work because it's almost ahead in airplay and Spotify and way ahead in sales and worldwide views (though I recently learned that Work has a much higher US views to worldwide views proportion than the 5H song, somehow, apparently). But if ITAPII makes top 5 as a result, I won't complain! It probably won't though because knowing my luck it'll peak at #6 for like 5 weeks
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Post by MTSChart21 on Apr 22, 2016 13:11:56 GMT -5
But if ITAPII makes top 5 as a result, I won't complain! It probably won't though because knowing my luck it'll peak at #6 for like 5 weeks This is why I still have that feeling that WFH will be #5. It has been proven in previous weeks that songs that ravi predicted to beat the song below it by 1k actually ended up barely losing to that song that was predicted below it. I can see this situation taking place for WFH and ITAPII
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Post by Raccoon on Apr 22, 2016 13:35:12 GMT -5
WFH seems likely to beat out ITAPII imo
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Post by velaxti on Apr 22, 2016 13:47:52 GMT -5
I think it might still be held to the standard of needing enough points to reach Top 50 despite not having charted previously. Bowie's "Heroes" put up decent numbers numbers in the wake of his death (22,000 sold + 2.8 million streams) but didn't appear on the chart. "Blackstar" charted with 3.7 million streams and less than 13,000 sold. (I am using the Billboard article about Bowie's top ten most downloaded and streamed songs after his death for these numbers; too much hassle to link from phone.) Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're right about that rule. Any non-current (catalog) song needs top 50 placement to enter or re-enter the Hot 100. Anyone have any examples which would go against this rule? I can't think of any. There's definitely been a couple in recent years but I can't remember what they were... But it annoys me every time it happens, that's how I know it's definitely happened recently lol. I THINK one of them was Marry You by Bruno Mars. I saw it in the recurrent chart even though it hadn't spent 20 weeks on the Hot 100 yet. Personally I think any song should be allowed to chart if it hasn't charted for 20 weeks yet, no matter how old. I agree with making songs recurrent as it'd be boring seeing year-old songs hogging up the bottom half of the chart and it's good that it lets new songs get in more easily, but I think if an old song gets a random boost one week and hasn't charted for 20 weeks they should let it chart as normal and put it recurrent after 20 weeks. Then after 20 weeks make them have to chart top 50 to re-enter. Plus in Europe they often re-release songs years after their first release. Doesn't really happen much anymore but it was a fairly common thing in the 80's, 90's and even the early 00's. I know it's happened in the US occasionally but it's very rare. So basically I think letting old songs chart in the bottom half of the Hot 100 if they never made 20 weeks in their original run (or never charted in the first place) would be cool, it could prompt some interesting re-releases. I know Empire Of The Sun did a re-release recently.
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Post by MTSChart21 on Apr 22, 2016 13:53:18 GMT -5
WFH seems likely to beat out ITAPII imo Watch it, unfortunately, happen
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 13:56:15 GMT -5
If Work falls faster and NO starts falling and ITAPII doesn't freefall, ITAPII should be able to still get a top 5 peak. It peaked at #2 in Canada so far...hopefully it will get #1 here
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Post by Ravi on Apr 22, 2016 14:09:41 GMT -5
But if ITAPII makes top 5 as a result, I won't complain! It probably won't though because knowing my luck it'll peak at #6 for like 5 weeks This is why I still have that feeling that WFH will be #5. It has been proven in previous weeks that songs that ravi predicted to beat the song below it by 1k actually ended up barely losing to that song that was predicted below it. I can see this situation taking place for WFH and ITAPII Yeah.... 1000 points lead in my predictions is what I consider safe.... But if a song is ahead by 500-1000 points, 3 out of 4 times it turns out to be correct. Now all I need you to do is NOT put ITAPII at #5 in your final predictions and it will get there. :)
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Post by MTSChart21 on Apr 22, 2016 14:10:51 GMT -5
This is why I still have that feeling that WFH will be #5. It has been proven in previous weeks that songs that ravi predicted to beat the song below it by 1k actually ended up barely losing to that song that was predicted below it. I can see this situation taking place for WFH and ITAPII Now all I need you to do is NOT put ITAPII at #5 in your final predictions and it will get there. :) That's what I'm gonna do because I hope ITAPII will be #5 and because I think WFH will be #5
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 22, 2016 14:11:20 GMT -5
Personally I think any song should be allowed to chart if it hasn't charted for 20 weeks yet, no matter how old. I agree with making songs recurrent as it'd be boring seeing year-old songs hogging up the bottom half of the chart and it's good that it lets new songs get in more easily, but I think if an old song gets a random boost one week and hasn't charted for 20 weeks they should let it chart as normal and put it recurrent after 20 weeks. Then after 20 weeks make them have to chart top 50 to re-enter. Why worry about the 20 week rule at that point? What do the chart runs of songs 30 years old have to do with now (as in, hypothetically why should "When Doves Cry" get to re-chart but not "1999" if one happened to have a longer chart run this first time)? I just think any song that is older and gets enough points to re-chart should be allowed to re-enter. The point of recurrents is so somewhat older songs don't keep clogging the chart when they sort of level out as they decline. [Hypothetically] "Purple Rain" not being allowed to re-enter at #51 over 30 years later but being allowed to re-enter if it hits #50 just seems arbitrary to me. If there is renewed interest in a song for whatever reason, why not let it chart as if it's a new song?
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Post by Ravi on Apr 22, 2016 14:12:42 GMT -5
If Work falls faster and NO starts falling and ITAPII doesn't freefall, ITAPII should be able to still get a top 5 peak. It peaked at #2 in Canada so far...hopefully it will get #1 here I am pretty positive that it will get there this week.... Next week there could be a couple of Prince songs (not sure), but the week after that ITAPII should again be Top-5, maybe even #4 beating Work.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2016 14:16:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're right about that rule. Any non-current (catalog) song needs top 50 placement to enter or re-enter the Hot 100. Anyone have any examples which would go against this rule? I can't think of any. There's definitely been a couple in recent years but I can't remember what they were... But it annoys me every time it happens, that's how I know it's definitely happened recently lol. I THINK one of them was Marry You by Bruno Mars. I saw it in the recurrent chart even though it hadn't spent 20 weeks on the Hot 100 yet. Personally I think any song should be allowed to chart if it hasn't charted for 20 weeks yet, no matter how old. I agree with making songs recurrent as it'd be boring seeing year-old songs hogging up the bottom half of the chart and it's good that it lets new songs get in more easily, but I think if an old song gets a random boost one week and hasn't charted for 20 weeks they should let it chart as normal and put it recurrent after 20 weeks. Then after 20 weeks make them have to chart top 50 to re-enter. Plus in Europe they often re-release songs years after their first release. Doesn't really happen much anymore but it was a fairly common thing in the 80's, 90's and even the early 00's. I know it's happened in the US occasionally but it's very rare. So basically I think letting old songs chart in the bottom half of the Hot 100 if they never made 20 weeks in their original run (or never charted in the first place) would be cool, it could prompt some interesting re-releases. I know Empire Of The Sun did a re-release recently. I don't know - after songs are more than a few years old, I personally don't see why it matters if they charted years ago or not or for 20 weeks or not. They are all catalog songs that aren't being re-released, and they are charting only for a brief time because of someone dying or a major performance or viral something or whatnot. So while a part of me would love to see some old Prince songs chart for the first time in the lower region of the chart, I'm not really in support of it at the end of the day. Just let catalog songs chart if they make the top 50 (new or re-entry, regardless of previous weeks on) and leave it at that. Songs that are being actively promoted are different, like Empire of the Sun... or the re-release and promotion of Bohemian Rhapsody in the 90s, even. Clogging the lower end of the chart with temporary new (but old) songs for a week or two doesn't really seem all that justified given the foundation and purpose of the chart. If they see Erotic City (for example) do really well and then choose to re-release it and promote it to radio... fine. Until then, I'm good with it not charting outside the top 50.
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Post by Mike is BAD on Apr 22, 2016 14:30:47 GMT -5
This is why I still have that feeling that WFH will be #5. It has been proven in previous weeks that songs that ravi predicted to beat the song below it by 1k actually ended up barely losing to that song that was predicted below it. I can see this situation taking place for WFH and ITAPII Yeah.... 1000 points lead in my predictions is what I consider safe.... But if a song is ahead by 500-1000 points, 3 out of 4 times it turns out to be correct. Now all I need you to do is NOT put ITAPII at #5 in your final predictions and it will get there. :) DO YOU KNOW IF OR WHERE PURPLE RAIN WILL CHART?
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Post by Libra on Apr 22, 2016 14:47:59 GMT -5
With 1986 in the rotating mix of Flashback Top 10s, let's not overlook this week that just passed that features one of Prince's crowning achievements: April 19, 198601 02 Kiss - Prince & The Revolution (1st of 2 weeks at #1)02 03 Manic Monday - The Bangles Only the second man, ever (after Jim Steinman in 1983), to write both of a given week's Top 2 hits. (as in, hypothetically why should "When Doves Cry" get to re-chart but not "1999" if one happened to have a longer chart run this first time) Hypothetical, I know, but actually a bad hypothetical - "1999" actually has THREE chart appearances: Its original hit run in 1983 (16 weeks) was actually its second. It was originally released in the fall of '82 and stopped at #44, lasting 12 weeks. And, of course, the one week it reappeared in '99. So, believe it or not, it's the song with the most chart weeks to its credit already in his entire catalogue.
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Post by Ravi on Apr 22, 2016 14:54:41 GMT -5
Yeah.... 1000 points lead in my predictions is what I consider safe.... But if a song is ahead by 500-1000 points, 3 out of 4 times it turns out to be correct. Now all I need you to do is NOT put ITAPII at #5 in your final predictions and it will get there. :) DO YOU KNOW IF OR WHERE PURPLE RAIN WILL CHART? I am not sure about the chart rules, but if it is allowed to chart, it will have enough points to enter Top-50, maybe even Top-40.
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