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Post by Au$tin on Jun 20, 2017 16:13:31 GMT -5
Removed from Spotify's Today's Top Hits.
Sign of the end.
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Post by leonagwen on Jun 20, 2017 20:10:02 GMT -5
It's a shame this wasn't a big hit.Such a good song,deserved much better.
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Post by violet on Jun 24, 2017 10:21:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2017 10:23:29 GMT -5
Curious to see what they release next. The fact this almost went Top 10 at pop radio is actually great in my opinion. This is so different from anything else pop radio is playing.
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Post by violet on Jun 24, 2017 10:23:30 GMT -5
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jun 24, 2017 10:38:15 GMT -5
They're already making the worst mistake that so many make by not immediately having a followup single already out.
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 24, 2017 13:39:36 GMT -5
Radio really hated the song (well, they really hated Green light too, so they seem not receptive to anything different right now).
The Grammys are a joke, so it could go either way. Here in Spain critics pay him way more attention than any of the other OD members. Given that there are not so many big debuts (and nobody that make a big impact like Sam Smith or Meghan Trainor) i can see him getting a nomination for best new artist
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Post by musicfan134 on Jun 24, 2017 18:59:27 GMT -5
Is he eligible for BNA? I mean, technically, he's been in the business since 2010 or so so he's not really a "new" artist.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 0:51:40 GMT -5
he used his chance, next single has to be good to chart at all
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Post by ilikemusic on Jun 25, 2017 1:32:52 GMT -5
Believe me, I'm all for rock music making a comeback into the mainstream -- and this song has really nice moments and inklings of a massive rock ballad -- but it ultimately kind of falls flat. My favorite part about this song is the melody. Really, really solid melodically. However, the lyrics don't really go anywhere and although they sound nice, they don't really make a whole lot of sense. I'm confused as to what the story he is telling or what this song is even about. He's got a really nice tone and although I think he sings a bit out of his range live, he still seems like the biggest star out of the One Direction members and ultimately the most personable and likable one. His debut album is a decent effort, but again, there's no AMAZING song, they're all just sorta kinda good, if you get what I mean. Now that he's out of the band and has some time to grow, hopefully his sophomore effort wows everyone out of the park, because I think he's got the potential to get there, he just isn't quite there yet.
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Post by toomuchboy on Jun 25, 2017 8:06:05 GMT -5
^ The way I interpreted the song was "Sign of the (End of) Times." Particularly the parts about flying away, if you're a Christian who believes in the Rapture.
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 25, 2017 8:15:39 GMT -5
Is he eligible for BNA? I mean, technically, he's been in the business since 2010 or so so he's not really a "new" artist. Of course he is. He was in a band, now he is a solo artist, if they nominated Bon Iver as best new artist when he was in the business for almost a decade everybody can be nominated
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 25, 2017 8:18:39 GMT -5
he used his chance, next single has to be good to chart at all Having an smash hit didn't help Zayn with the follow up (two times). Being an ex boyband member is hard to establish yourself as a solo artist. It's pretty clear that the way Harry chose was not being a hitmaker. That's not the way he is being promoted and if he wanted that he would chose a more radio friendly first single. So yes, it's a posibility he won't chart at all with the second single, or if he does, it's probable that he get trouble to land a spot in the billboard hot 100. The fact that they are not rushing a second single means that they are not worried at all about that
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Post by Choco on Jun 25, 2017 8:28:37 GMT -5
Well this did better than it should have, considering how different it is from what Pop is playing. Real test will be getting a followup to chart at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 14:22:33 GMT -5
he used his chance, next single has to be good to chart at all Having an smash hit didn't help Zayn with the follow up (two times). Being an ex boyband member is hard to establish yourself as a solo artist. It's pretty clear that the way Harry chose was not being a hitmaker. That's not the way he is being promoted and if he wanted that he would chose a more radio friendly first single. So yes, it's a posibility he won't chart at all with the second single, or if he does, it's probable that he get trouble to land a spot in the billboard hot 100. The fact that they are not rushing a second single means that they are not worried at all about that He has to turn to lightweight pop(not that his first single was deep or something) to sell, otherwise he will be dropped soon and his only chance would be One Direction reunion, but as already 3 members of the band are doing really well, IΒ΄m not seeing that anytime soon happening. His mistake was trying to become serious artist - but come on, from that background you really have to be something special, is his music or personality something special? NOPE:)
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 25, 2017 14:41:05 GMT -5
Having an smash hit didn't help Zayn with the follow up (two times). Being an ex boyband member is hard to establish yourself as a solo artist. It's pretty clear that the way Harry chose was not being a hitmaker. That's not the way he is being promoted and if he wanted that he would chose a more radio friendly first single. So yes, it's a posibility he won't chart at all with the second single, or if he does, it's probable that he get trouble to land a spot in the billboard hot 100. The fact that they are not rushing a second single means that they are not worried at all about that He has to turn to lightweight pop(not that his first single was deep or something) to sell, otherwise he will be dropped soon and his only chance would be One Direction reunion, but as already 3 members of the band are doing really well, IΒ΄m not seeing that anytime soon happening. His mistake was trying to become serious artist - but come on, from that background you really have to be something special, is his music or personality something special? NOPE:) His album is selling well worldwide, there's life beyond being a hitmaker. And frankly, he is filthy rich, he can do whatever he wants. And yes, he has charisma, he gives great interviews, if there's one OD who has a slightly posibility to last it's him. Frankly he has something because you obviously don't like him but you can't stop posting in this thread I don't know in other countries but the reviews of the album are good here, and generally they mention they expect him to grow as artist in the future Justin Timberlake has the same background, nobody took him seriously when he released his first album. Of course he took a more commercial route, but it worked for him. There are very few cases of ex boyband member who really succeed after leaving the group, and OD was massive which makes it even more difficult, but right now most of them are doing OD. Frankly i think it would be ridiculous for someone who had such success as member of a group to obsess with being equaly successful as solo artist. Right now every member is going in their own direction and that's exactly what they should do, making the music they like to do
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Jun 25, 2017 14:57:41 GMT -5
I do think he'll need some type of hit song at some point to sustain his career. Right now he's running off hype and built-in fanbase. That doesn't mean that he needs to abandon his style of music. I just think he'll need a hit at some point to have a commercially successful follow-up album.
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Post by jjose712 on Jun 25, 2017 15:10:33 GMT -5
I do think he'll need some type of hit song at some point to sustain his career. Right now he's running off hype and built-in fanbase. That doesn't mean that he needs to abandon his style of music. I just think he'll need a hit at some point to have a commercially successful follow-up album. You can do it without a hit song (Adele's 19) but with a hit song everything goes better (Adele after Rolling in the deep). And it's a question of finding something radio friendly that suits your style, which of course is not that easy because radio is very voluble and sometimes (pumped up kicks, Take me to church) songs that doesn't fit the format became big hits and songs that seem perfect for pop end flopping big time. One thing is looking for some radio friendly songs in his albums, and other very different to look for hits because that generally ends in a big faliure (and bad songs)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 15:11:15 GMT -5
He has to turn to lightweight pop(not that his first single was deep or something) to sell, otherwise he will be dropped soon and his only chance would be One Direction reunion, but as already 3 members of the band are doing really well, IΒ΄m not seeing that anytime soon happening. His mistake was trying to become serious artist - but come on, from that background you really have to be something special, is his music or personality something special? NOPE:) His album is selling well worldwide, there's life beyond being a hitmaker. And frankly, he is filthy rich, he can do whatever he wants. And yes, he has charisma, he gives great interviews, if there's one OD who has a slightly posibility to last it's him. Frankly he has something because you obviously don't like him but you can't stop posting in this thread I don't know in other countries but the reviews of the album are good here, and generally they mention they expect him to grow as artist in the future Justin Timberlake has the same background, nobody took him seriously when he released his first album. Of course he took a more commercial route, but it worked for him. There are very few cases of ex boyband member who really succeed after leaving the group, and OD was massive which makes it even more difficult, but right now most of them are doing OD. Frankly i think it would be ridiculous for someone who had such success as member of a group to obsess with being equaly successful as solo artist. Right now every member is going in their own direction and that's exactly what they should do, making the music they like to do Justin Timberlake mnjah is as pop or should I say popsoul as it gets, he is all about right sound at the right time, which means he is a producers artist, without Pharrell or Timbaland he would be nobody and really nobody, because his vocal abilities are really thin and (in that sense Harry Styles is in a different league) and not so much writer or producer neither. And Timberlake has never tried to do meaningful music what Styles is trying on. Of course Styles is not the best choice to be compared to Timberlake from One Direction anyway. I know who is the best example to be compared to Styles trying to be a serious artist - Kelly Clarkson - what a failure that one was. Harry Styles is way over his head and should hurry up with different direction(or one one) before this head starts to lose hair...
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Jun 25, 2017 17:04:42 GMT -5
His album is selling well worldwide, there's life beyond being a hitmaker. And frankly, he is filthy rich, he can do whatever he wants. And yes, he has charisma, he gives great interviews, if there's one OD who has a slightly posibility to last it's him. Frankly he has something because you obviously don't like him but you can't stop posting in this thread I don't know in other countries but the reviews of the album are good here, and generally they mention they expect him to grow as artist in the future Justin Timberlake has the same background, nobody took him seriously when he released his first album. Of course he took a more commercial route, but it worked for him. There are very few cases of ex boyband member who really succeed after leaving the group, and OD was massive which makes it even more difficult, but right now most of them are doing OD. Frankly i think it would be ridiculous for someone who had such success as member of a group to obsess with being equaly successful as solo artist. Right now every member is going in their own direction and that's exactly what they should do, making the music they like to do Justin Timberlake mnjah is as pop or should I say popsoul as it gets, he is all about right sound at the right time, which means he is a producers artist, without Pharrell or Timbaland he would be nobody and really nobody, because his vocal abilities are really thin and (in that sense Harry Styles is in a different league) and not so much writer or producer neither. And Timberlake has never tried to do meaningful music what Styles is trying on. Of course Styles is not the best choice to be compared to Timberlake from One Direction anyway. I know who is the best example to be compared to Styles trying to be a serious artist - Kelly Clarkson - what a failure that one was. Harry Styles is way over his head and should hurry up with different direction(or one one) before this head starts to lose hair... 1. Justin Timberlake is very much an involved songwriter and has lent his skills to other musical artists. 2. While JT is an average at best vocalist, Harry Styles is far from being in a different league vocally. He has a better natural instrument, but he uses his much worse that JT uses his own. 3. lol at "meaningful music". He's not making "meaningful" music. He's making music that just is not what's popular right now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 19:37:44 GMT -5
My favorite song of the year so far. Excellent song.
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Post by violet on Jun 28, 2017 20:30:19 GMT -5
Billboard 10 Best Songs of 2017 So Far (#5 is Sign of the times)
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Post by violet on Jul 1, 2017 17:54:13 GMT -5
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 1, 2017 17:59:55 GMT -5
Having an smash hit didn't help Zayn with the follow up (two times). Being an ex boyband member is hard to establish yourself as a solo artist. It's pretty clear that the way Harry chose was not being a hitmaker. That's not the way he is being promoted and if he wanted that he would chose a more radio friendly first single. So yes, it's a posibility he won't chart at all with the second single, or if he does, it's probable that he get trouble to land a spot in the billboard hot 100. The fact that they are not rushing a second single means that they are not worried at all about that He has to turn to lightweight pop(not that his first single was deep or something) to sell, otherwise he will be dropped soon and his only chance would be One Direction reunion, but as already 3 members of the band are doing really well, IΒ΄m not seeing that anytime soon happening. His mistake was trying to become serious artist - but come on, from that background you really have to be something special, is his music or personality something special? NOPE:) No he doesn't. He needs to be persistent. If Robbie Williams can do it, I'm sure Harry can in time. It's this belief that only pop can be successful that's faulty. No
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Post by Glove Slap on Jul 1, 2017 18:18:08 GMT -5
He has to turn to lightweight pop(not that his first single was deep or something) to sell, otherwise he will be dropped soon and his only chance would be One Direction reunion, but as already 3 members of the band are doing really well, IΒ΄m not seeing that anytime soon happening. His mistake was trying to become serious artist - but come on, from that background you really have to be something special, is his music or personality something special? NOPE:) No he doesn't. He needs to be persistent. If Robbie Williams can do it, I'm sure Harry can in time. It's this belief that only pop can be successful that's faulty. No Robbie had hooks in his songs tho. And his songs were pop songs. Not teen-pop, or dance-pop or extremely lightweight, but Pop nonetheless. But anyway, Pop or not, the one thing someone trying to break through as a consistent solo act cannot have is aimlessness in their songwriting. No one really cares how persistent you are if they can't remember your song when it stops playing. And if anyone was set up to be Robbie, it was Zayn since he was the one who left and the rougher image. Obviously that didn't happen though ![](http://images.proboards.com/tongue.gif) . Harry is more along the lines of Gary Barlow with him having been the closest thing to the center of the group, but again it's an insult to Barlow's songwriting abilities to compare them beyond that.
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Post by tomgsinger on Jul 1, 2017 21:24:42 GMT -5
And honestly, the only member of the band who got a top 10 CHR hit was Zayn, so I honestly hope 1D comes back. Louis' single was a huge flop, This Town had only limited recurrent airplay, and this got blocked from the top 10 and then fell like there's no tomorrow. Even Like I Would and Still Got Time flopped. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Strip That Down and Slow Hands underperform either. So honestly, it seems like this is what they're gonna have to do, and all the band members (minus Zayn) have made it clear that the band will get back together. So I personally think that within the next year they will reunite and record a sixth album together. By the way, I'm male and I'm 95% basing this on the charts :)
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Post by tomgsinger on Jul 1, 2017 21:27:21 GMT -5
And honestly, the only member of the band who got a top 10 CHR hit was Zayn, so I honestly hope 1D comes back. Louis' single was a huge flop, This Town had only limited recurrent airplay, and this got blocked from the top 10 and then fell like there's no tomorrow. Even Like I Would and Still Got Time flopped. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Strip That Down and Slow Hands underperform either. So honestly, it seems like this is what they're gonna have to do, and all the band members (minus Zayn) have made it clear that the band will get back together. So I personally think that within the next year they will reunite and record a sixth album together. By the way, I'm male and I'm 95% basing this on the charts :) In other words, Zayn is the only one who is doing "really well". Even if SH and STD go top 15 or top 10, I still don't think they'll match up to the success they had as a band. So they should reunite IMO.
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Post by Glove Slap on Jul 1, 2017 21:48:07 GMT -5
Harry is touring into next Summer, and Niall's album is coming out in the Fall, for which I'm assuming he would tour as well. I don't see them getting back together within the following year.
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Post by pnobelysk on Jul 3, 2017 23:35:27 GMT -5
And honestly, the only member of the band who got a top 10 CHR hit was Zayn, so I honestly hope 1D comes back. Louis' single was a huge flop, This Town had only limited recurrent airplay, and this got blocked from the top 10 and then fell like there's no tomorrow. Even Like I Would and Still Got Time flopped. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Strip That Down and Slow Hands underperform either. So honestly, it seems like this is what they're gonna have to do, and all the band members (minus Zayn) have made it clear that the band will get back together. So I personally think that within the next year they will reunite and record a sixth album together. By the way, I'm male and I'm 95% basing this on the charts :) In other words, Zayn is the only one who is doing "really well". Even if SH and STD go top 15 or top 10, I still don't think they'll match up to the success they had as a band. So they should reunite IMO. Harry's album is about to pass 300k which is nothing to sniff at. Zayn got the top 10 chr hit but Harry's album debuted with more than the total sales of zayns album. Also nial is totally doing a respectable job so far, and he has an upward battle bc he isn't as popular of a face compared to zayn and Harry. Too soon to tell with Liam.
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Post by violet on Jul 11, 2017 21:07:26 GMT -5
Harry's Sign of the Times just hit 1 million units (sales + streams) in US! It's eligible for Platinum now.
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