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Post by areyoureadytojump on May 25, 2017 10:52:54 GMT -5
What happened to our airplay people? Kworb's "Overall Audience Impressions" is here: kworb.net/airadio/1. BRUNO MARS That's What I Like 224.348 and... ATRL: atrl.net/forums/topic/125-us-airplay-discussion/?page=102KYGO X SELENA GOMEZ - It Ain't Me: 139.878 (+ 0.429) DJ KHALED - I'm The One f/Bieber/Quavo…: 99.192 (+ 2.418) ED SHEERAN - Castle On The Hill: 77.393 (+ 0.476) LUIS FONSI & DADDY YANKEE - Despacito f/Justin Bieber: 73.795 (+ 2.536) HARRY STYLES - Sign Of The Times: 52.206 (+ 0.193) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me...: 47.257 (+ 0.604) SELENA GOMEZ - Bad Liar: 28.916 (+ 2.673) LADY GAGA - The Cure: 27.743 (+ 0.204) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention: 25.785 (+ 0.084) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands: 21.768 (+ 0.293) MILEY CYRUS - Malibu: 21.075 (+ 0.655) CAMILA CABELLO - Crying In The Club: 11.321 (+ 2.009) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo: 7.868 (+ 1.330) KATY PERRY - Swish Swish f/Nicki Minaj: 6.314 (+ 0.720) IGGY AZALEA - Switch f/Anitta: 0.814 (+ 0.122) |
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 25, 2017 11:57:14 GMT -5
^ Somehow all of our statistic people mysteriously disappear. And new ones come forward and eventually disappear as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 1:46:48 GMT -5
Why is Miley Cyrus's airplay always so measly? Because of disney? I mean, Selena's airplay's always way higher.
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Post by Au$tin on May 26, 2017 2:42:47 GMT -5
Why is Miley Cyrus's airplay always so measly? Because of disney? I mean, Selena's airplay's always way higher. What do you mean? Miley was actually the first Disney star to get significant radio airplay outside of the big three from the 90s. Before "See You Again," the biggest any song got on radio was Hilary Duff's "Come Clean," which barely scraped the top ten in pop airplay. She literally laid the groundwork for Selena and Demi to have successful careers in airplay. Plus Bangerz era Miley had massive airplay outside of "Adore You." "Malibu" is doing very well for an artist that hasn't had a major hit in three years. "Bad Liar" had a stronger reaction in airplay because Selena is coming off of "It Ain't Me," which is a follow up from the biggest era of her career. Not to mention there isn't much of a style change between her last string of hits and this. With Miley, she's coming off of a three year break which consisted of a huge image change. Three years ago she was the party girl that twerked on stage with her tongue out to hip-pop. Now she's an acoustic driven artist with country influences and a new image that appeals heavily to soccer moms (you can thank The Voice for that part). I would by no means call her current airplay measly. It's increasing rapidly and healthy. The song's performance on iTunes (one of the best performing comebacks of recent here) and Spotify (literally the only solo female of 2017 to be fairly consistently top 10 here) also suggests it's not going to crash either. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 4:03:29 GMT -5
Why is Miley Cyrus's airplay always so measly? Because of disney? I mean, Selena's airplay's always way higher. What do you mean? Miley was actually the first Disney star to get significant radio airplay outside of the big three from the 90s. Before "See You Again," the biggest any song got on radio was Hilary Duff's "Come Clean," which barely scraped the top ten in pop airplay. She literally laid the groundwork for Selena and Demi to have successful careers in airplay. Plus Bangerz era Miley had massive airplay outside of "Adore You." "Malibu" is doing very well for an artist that hasn't had a major hit in three years. "Bad Liar" had a stronger reaction in airplay because Selena is coming off of "It Ain't Me," which is a follow up from the biggest era of her career. Not to mention there isn't much of a style change between her last string of hits and this. With Miley, she's coming off of a three year break which consisted of a huge image change. Three years ago she was the party girl that twerked on stage with her tongue out to hip-pop. Now she's an acoustic driven artist with country influences and a new image that appeals heavily to soccer moms (you can thank The Voice for that part). I would by no means call her current airplay measly. It's increasing rapidly and healthy. The song's performance on iTunes (one of the best performing comebacks of recent here) and Spotify (literally the only solo female of 2017 to be fairly consistently top 10 here) also suggests it's not going to crash either. Let me ask you this. What was the airplay peak of We Can't Stop and Wrecking Ball? Malibu's released one week before Bad Liar, why is its airplay lagging behind the Selena minor hit's? Songs like I'm the One freshly released can shot to top 30 by now, but Malibu's so slow. And what's the deal between disney and radio? I remember the very well known Let It Go received almost 0 airplay. |
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Post by .It'sGriffin on May 26, 2017 9:26:20 GMT -5
It's a perfect music meme come true! Good song + good content!!! |
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Post by Az Paynter on May 26, 2017 10:07:29 GMT -5
What do you mean? Miley was actually the first Disney star to get significant radio airplay outside of the big three from the 90s. Before "See You Again," the biggest any song got on radio was Hilary Duff's "Come Clean," which barely scraped the top ten in pop airplay. She literally laid the groundwork for Selena and Demi to have successful careers in airplay. Plus Bangerz era Miley had massive airplay outside of "Adore You." "Malibu" is doing very well for an artist that hasn't had a major hit in three years. "Bad Liar" had a stronger reaction in airplay because Selena is coming off of "It Ain't Me," which is a follow up from the biggest era of her career. Not to mention there isn't much of a style change between her last string of hits and this. With Miley, she's coming off of a three year break which consisted of a huge image change. Three years ago she was the party girl that twerked on stage with her tongue out to hip-pop. Now she's an acoustic driven artist with country influences and a new image that appeals heavily to soccer moms (you can thank The Voice for that part). I would by no means call her current airplay measly. It's increasing rapidly and healthy. The song's performance on iTunes (one of the best performing comebacks of recent here) and Spotify (literally the only solo female of 2017 to be fairly consistently top 10 here) also suggests it's not going to crash either. Let me ask you this. What was the airplay peak of We Can't Stop and Wrecking Ball? Malibu's released one week before Bad Liar, why is its airplay lagging behind the Selena minor hit's? Songs like I'm the One freshly released can shot to top 30 by now, but Malibu's so slow. And what's the deal between disney and radio? I remember the very well known Let It Go received almost 0 airplay. For the record; Selena's 'Bad Liar' got a premiere deal that saw it gain twice the first-day airplay that 'Malibu' did. I don't know why that was a thing, but it was. It is also irrelevant - now that Selena has had a full week of airplay that super-inflated first day has dropped off. You should now find that Miley is ahead of Selena on pop radio with more audience, and I would also say Miley is also ahead in total audience impressions. As for 'We Can't Stop' and 'Wrecking Ball' I don't have their peaks on overall airplay but on pop radio WCS was a top 10 hit and WB was her second #1. Songs like 'I'm The One' have multiple radio formats behind them, so they can pick up a LOT of audience really quickly when they take off on pop/rhythmic/urban at the same time. Selena and Miley have only pop radio as their dominant format at the moment, with Hot AC also helping at least Miley (I'm not following 'Bad Liar' so IDK if it's top 50 there). At any rate IDK what your complaint is. Miley's already hit the top 10 on the Hot 100. Selena hasn't. |
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Post by macabyan on May 26, 2017 10:11:45 GMT -5
It's a perfect music meme come true! Good song + good content!!! Plus Redbone is discounted and has a healthy gain of streams and airplay so all is good! Slay |
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Post by fhas on May 26, 2017 10:32:27 GMT -5
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Post by Golden Bluebird on May 26, 2017 10:39:04 GMT -5
So, what are the chances of "Black Hole Sun" entering the Hot 100 this week?
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 26, 2017 10:44:45 GMT -5
Also Miley doesn't care about airplay, so she really isn't promoting the song to radio. It's airplay is due to its performance on iTunes and the Hot 100. Selena has a deal with radio, thus why her song is getting more airplay.
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Post by Au$tin on May 26, 2017 12:33:19 GMT -5
What do you mean? Miley was actually the first Disney star to get significant radio airplay outside of the big three from the 90s. Before "See You Again," the biggest any song got on radio was Hilary Duff's "Come Clean," which barely scraped the top ten in pop airplay. She literally laid the groundwork for Selena and Demi to have successful careers in airplay. Plus Bangerz era Miley had massive airplay outside of "Adore You." "Malibu" is doing very well for an artist that hasn't had a major hit in three years. "Bad Liar" had a stronger reaction in airplay because Selena is coming off of "It Ain't Me," which is a follow up from the biggest era of her career. Not to mention there isn't much of a style change between her last string of hits and this. With Miley, she's coming off of a three year break which consisted of a huge image change. Three years ago she was the party girl that twerked on stage with her tongue out to hip-pop. Now she's an acoustic driven artist with country influences and a new image that appeals heavily to soccer moms (you can thank The Voice for that part). I would by no means call her current airplay measly. It's increasing rapidly and healthy. The song's performance on iTunes (one of the best performing comebacks of recent here) and Spotify (literally the only solo female of 2017 to be fairly consistently top 10 here) also suggests it's not going to crash either. Let me ask you this. What was the airplay peak of We Can't Stop and Wrecking Ball? Malibu's released one week before Bad Liar, why is its airplay lagging behind the Selena minor hit's? Songs like I'm the One freshly released can shot to top 30 by now, but Malibu's so slow. And what's the deal between disney and radio? I remember the very well known Let It Go received almost 0 airplay. As Az already pointed out, Bad Liar was inflated from a radio deal and is back down to being below Malibu. He also pointed out how some songs appeal to more formats and that boosts their airplay, like I'm the One. Malibu doesn't even have strong appeal to rhythmic, which is different from her last album. As far as peaks: See You Again #11 The Climb #7 Party in the U.S.A. #8 Can't Be Tamed #52 We Can't Stop #15 Wrecking Ball #4 Adore You #50 - 23 #59 Come Get It Bae #40 (uncredited) Naturally #35 Who Says #47 Love You Like a Love Song #15 Come & Get It #6 Slow Down #15 The Heart Wants What It Wants #9 Good for You #4 Same Old Love #3 Hands to Myself #10 Kill Em with Kindness #44 - I Want You to Know #18 We Don't Talk Anymore #16 It Ain't Me #4 As you can see here, Selena's showings are about equal to Miley's. The only oddball is "We Can't Stop" peaking at #15, but that can easily be explained by its polarizing sound limiting its ability on pop radio. Basically, it performed like Rihanna's "Work" without the added benefit of urban radio and a smaller showing on rhythmic. The other thing you might notice is that Selena has charted more than Miley on Hot 100 Airplay/Radio Songs. This is explained by Miley's label being pretty s**tty during the beginning of her career. "See You Again" was a chart miracle. It was never pushed to radio until it already started taking off on its own. That album had no other radio singles. Her second album was lead by a single that wasn't appealing to many older audiences, and its second single was the same way. However, they fixed all that with "The Climb," which helped with her image on radio, allowing "Party in the U.S.A." to be the radio hit it was... which was then ruined by not promoting that EP's second single. Followed by a jarring image change in "Can't Be Tamed," which was a polarizing single. No other radio single was released for that album. Bangerz was her first album to consistently do well in airplay. With Selena, you can see she didn't start having great success in airplay either until around the same time as Bangerz. And yes, there is an image problem with Disney singers. So many people see them as non-talented cash cows for children, which is a major problem they have to overcome to get significant radio airplay. However, Miley, Demi, and Selena have all been able to overcome that within the past 4 years, and their music careers have finally blossomed to be bigger than their acting careers. As for "Let It Go," there's a plethora of reasons radio did not latch onto that. Have you heard that song? It doesn't exactly fit into any station's playlist. Also, it wasn't pushed to radio outside of the ACs. It did manage to crack the top 50 on pop airplay for like a week, but then died. And again, for good reason. It's a song from a movie aimed at children. The song is also aimed at children. The song is from a musical. It sounds like it's from a musical. It's by a Broadway singer. It sounds like it's from a Broadway singer. Radio was not going to make that an airplay hit. The Disney connection really didn't have anything to do with that. But anyway, back around to the main point, for a comeback single from Miley Cyrus that completely changes her image and appeals to only pop and the ACs, it's doing well in airplay. Also Miley doesn't care about airplay, so she really isn't promoting the song to radio. It's airplay is due to its performance on iTunes and the Hot 100. Selena has a deal with radio, thus why her song is getting more airplay. Malibu was pushed to radio the same amount as any other hit. Bad Liar's radio deal lasted only one day, and it fell out of the rolling chart today. Malibu also had a radio deal on its first day, though it wasn't as big as Bad Liar's. Also, that would be the label's job at getting those deals and releasing it to radio, not the artist. The artist only gets involved for radio tours and interviews, which neither has done for their new songs yet. Also, as it's been pointed out, now that Bad Liar's deal fell out of the rolling chart, Malibu is actually getting more airplay, which makes sense since it was released first. Other than their first day, they're performing similarly in airplay. The only major difference is Malibu is doing well on pop and hot AC whereas Bad Liar is only at pop for the moment. I expect rhythmic to latch on soon, though. |
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on May 26, 2017 13:57:43 GMT -5
I thought Malibu was doing quite well so far. Have I been wrong?
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Post by .It'sGriffin on May 26, 2017 14:07:30 GMT -5
I actually wouldn't be surprised if Redbone will enter the top 10 in a week or 2.
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Post by fhas on May 26, 2017 14:42:26 GMT -5
I actually wouldn't be surprised if Redbone will enter the top 10 in a week or 2. Hits Daily Double's On-Demand Streaming - Chart Date 05/26/17 30. Redbone 7,324,717 (+10) [+20%] Only song in the top 50 with more than 13% increase. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 15:05:31 GMT -5
I thought hitting top 40 was a victory for Redbone. This having serious chances of top 20+ is beyond great. It's also getting played on major NY stations
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 19:42:14 GMT -5
Why does the forum seem to have such a strong emotional attachment to Redbone? It sounds so depressing.
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Post by kcdawg13 on May 26, 2017 19:47:54 GMT -5
Looks like Top 40 stations are starting to embrace 2017's diverse hits, because I'm starting to hear a lot more Humble, Mask Off, XO Tour Llif3, Despacito, and Body Like A Backroad on my pop stations. It seems odd to me, pop radio was so safe and bubblegum for many years when pop was on top (2010-2015), but now multiple different genres are dominating the chart, so they are forced to play other music. It's kind of cool.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 20:06:57 GMT -5
Can someone tell me, what is the record for the longest climb to the top 10? Why does the forum seem to have such a strong emotional attachment to Redbone? It sounds so depressing. I'm a fan because it's such a strange song coming from a man who is mostly not known for his music, and that a strange song like this one has managed to follow up much more commercial sounding music to become his biggest and most enjoyable hit to date. |
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Post by Gary on May 26, 2017 20:10:44 GMT -5
Continuous chart runs or time between debut week and 1st week in the top 10?
If it is the latter, When I'm With You by Sherriff debuted in May 1983 and landed in the top 10 for the first time in January 1989, eventually hitting #1
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Post by Bwol on May 26, 2017 20:14:02 GMT -5
Can someone tell me, what is the record for the longest climb to the top 10? In terms of a single chart run, I think it is "Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)" with a 33 week climb |
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Post by Gary on May 26, 2017 20:22:07 GMT -5
Can someone tell me, what is the record for the longest climb to the top 10? In terms of a single chart run, I think it is "Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)" with a 33 week climb Two things, Macarena's 1st week in the top 10 was in its 28th chart week also there was a 4 month gap between week 20 and week 21 Macarena debuted September 1995 and hit the top 10 for the first time in June 1996 |
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Post by Bwol on May 26, 2017 20:30:47 GMT -5
OH *facepalm* I thought the question was longest run to number 1.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 20:48:18 GMT -5
38 Before He Cheats
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 26, 2017 21:10:26 GMT -5
So, what are the chances of "Black Hole Sun" entering the Hot 100 this week? According to a prediction that I saw from simm at ATRL it would have enough points to be in the 70s. That said, of all the artists who have died within the last year plus, only "Hallelujah" from Leonard Cohen has been allowed to chart by not being in the Top 50 (it was actually #59) of the Hot 100. For all the other songs, Billboard applied the 20-week recurrent rule regardless of whether they ever charted or were even released as singles, meaning they had to be in the Top 50. So it depends on what the chart editors decide. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 21:11:34 GMT -5
38 Before He Cheats 36 Higher 31 Radioactive Didnt i hate u i love u also spend like 31 weeks before it hit top 10? |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 21:20:44 GMT -5
It got to top 10 in its 25th week
Few other songs that took longer than that:
30 This Kiss
29 The Way You Love Me
29 Gimme The Light
28 Macarena
28 Cups
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 26, 2017 21:23:14 GMT -5
Pandora 2. That's What I Like (-1)** **Probably going recurrent next week I have been also following this chart and consider their 16 week "sunsetting" rule which is kind of similar to the 20 week recurrent rule for the Hot 100 except there's no position threshold that would prevent a song from disappearing from one week to the next even if they were #1 the week before. Not to mention that the Hot Streak rule that prevents songs past their 16th week for song that not reaching their peak past that threshold as long as they have reached a new peak within the two last weeks regardless of what positions in the chart are involved. Because of this, My Girl, charting in its 18th week, remains in the chart even though it fell 3 spots, but just because it had reached its peak so far the week before. |
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on May 26, 2017 21:28:26 GMT -5
Can someone tell me, what is the record for the longest climb to the top 10? Why does the forum seem to have such a strong emotional attachment to Redbone? It sounds so depressing. I'm a fan because it's such a strange song coming from a man who is mostly not known for his music, and that a strange song like this one has managed to follow up much more commercial sounding music to become his biggest and most enjoyable hit to date. Ehhh. I'd say a lot of people forget he's an actor. He's very much known for his music as well. |
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