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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 17, 2017 17:19:00 GMT -5
List of threats to Despacito mentioned on Pulse: Wild Thoughts Unforgettable Meme Taylor Eminem TΓP Fetish Wild Thoughts: The only way Wild Thoughts could take Despacito out of #1 quicker is it needs a discount, and fast. It also needs to pick up on streaming and YouTube, because it slipped on on-demand streaming, it's radio is the only thing keeping it up.
Unforgettable: I can see this getting to #1, because it has a lot of radio room to grow, and it is gaining in sales and streaming.
Meme: A meme could take over, but if it does, chances are I'd hate it and I'd rather have Despacito back at #1 at that point.
Taylor: If she can just release a lead off single BEFORE August, then we'd be in the clear. But we're in the dark on her next release, but we're all gunning for soon and very soon.
Eminem: I feel as though Eminem's relevancy in pop has faded, and I doubt he can get another #1, unless he collaborates with Rihanna or Taylor Swift.
TOP: I think 2016 was their year, and they are nothing but a one year wonder. Hell, HeavyDirtySoul failed to cross over, and yet appeared on the alternative/rock charts.
Fetish: 1 day at #1 on iTunes from an ex-Disney star is not something that I think could top Despacito. That and it's absolutely grating, especially with Gucci Mane.
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jul 17, 2017 18:24:37 GMT -5
List of threats to Despacito mentioned on Pulse: Wild Thoughts Unforgettable Meme Taylor Eminem TΓP Fetish Wild Thoughts: The only way Wild Thoughts could take Despacito out of #1 quicker is it needs a discount, and fast. It also needs to pick up on streaming and YouTube, because it slipped on on-demand streaming, it's radio is the only thing keeping it up.
Unforgettable: I can see this getting to #1, because it has a lot of radio room to grow, and it is gaining in sales and streaming.
Meme: A meme could take over, but if it does, chances are I'd hate it and I'd rather have Despacito back at #1 at that point.
Taylor: If she can just release a lead off single BEFORE August, then we'd be in the clear. But we're in the dark on her next release, but we're all gunning for soon and very soon.
Eminem: I feel as though Eminem's relevancy in pop has faded, and I doubt he can get another #1, unless he collaborates with Rihanna or Taylor Swift.
TOP: I think 2016 was their year, and they are nothing but a one year wonder. Hell, HeavyDirtySoul failed to cross over, and yet appeared on the alternative/rock charts.
Fetish: 1 day at #1 on iTunes from an ex-Disney star is not something that I think could top Despacito. That and it's absolutely grating, especiallyΒ with Gucci Mane.
Is TS a non-contender because of New Romantics, then? Because there are many similarities between that and HDS. TΓP are not out just yet.
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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 17, 2017 18:31:38 GMT -5
Wild Thoughts: The only way Wild Thoughts could take Despacito out of #1 quicker is it needs a discount, and fast. It also needs to pick up on streaming and YouTube, because it slipped on on-demand streaming, it's radio is the only thing keeping it up.
Unforgettable: I can see this getting to #1, because it has a lot of radio room to grow, and it is gaining in sales and streaming.
Meme: A meme could take over, but if it does, chances are I'd hate it and I'd rather have Despacito back at #1 at that point.
Taylor: If she can just release a lead off single BEFORE August, then we'd be in the clear. But we're in the dark on her next release, but we're all gunning for soon and very soon.
Eminem: I feel as though Eminem's relevancy in pop has faded, and I doubt he can get another #1, unless he collaborates with Rihanna or Taylor Swift.
TOP: I think 2016 was their year, and they are nothing but a one year wonder. Hell, HeavyDirtySoul failed to cross over, and yet appeared on the alternative/rock charts.
Fetish: 1 day at #1 on iTunes from an ex-Disney star is not something that I think could top Despacito. That and it's absolutely grating, especially with Gucci Mane.
Is TS a non-contender because of New Romantics, then? Because there are many similarities between that and HDS. TΓP are not out just yet. No, it's not because of that, I mean I Don't Wanna Live Forever did peak at #2 this year. If she can release a song before August and maybe tease and hype up the official video and song, then she's got a lock for #1. But it's all about timing, she needs to release it on a Monday and get big streaming, sales and YouTube, and then radio will keep it propped up.
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Post by DJ General on Jul 17, 2017 19:34:37 GMT -5
Eminem's relevancy has far from faded. While there is no doubt Rihanna's power helped many of his recent singles hit #1, there is no doubt that he also propped the song. He still has a gigantic streaming and radio play for songs and albums from decade ago. Not to mention a discount of Lose Yourself was back i nthe top 40 for several days recently on iTunes. I mean who doesn't have that song yet? LOL Even Kid Rock's buzz gave him a Top 20 on iTunes for quite some time. Anything new EMinem releases will 100% be well in the Top 10 for days at worst on iTunes. We will have to see if radio will play along, who knows. all depends on the song
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 20:43:38 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Eminem will do well, but I'm not sure about a #1 without Rihanna. Berzerk had a solid top 10 run, but it didn't do much at pop radio. I'm thinking a top 20 lead single, then a top 5 with Rihanna or Kendrick. Maybe a #1 if his album release week is big enough to force a #1 like HUMBLE.
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Post by Choco on Jul 17, 2017 20:54:59 GMT -5
Heavydirtysoul got zero promotion and no push to most formats. I don't think that should be used against 21P, but that said I can't see them getting a #1 debut either.
Eminem... Stranger things have happened but I think he's old news now. Will depend on the song.
I'd say discount Wild Thoughts in two weeks to allow radio to grow and pray it works...
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Post by Juanca on Jul 18, 2017 1:06:14 GMT -5
Despacito could also be performed at the VMAs and get some boost, especially if let's say there's another remix :) Also I don't think I've seen anything viral on that song. I think that happened with UF at some point as well. Despacito has had some viral videos in Latin America with soccer players, TV artists trying to do the choreography. So who knows what could happen Interesting to see another Latin song aiming for the select club of 12 weeks or more at #1 though
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 18, 2017 2:11:42 GMT -5
Why would Eminem release something with Rihanna, I mean are there rumors about duet or sth that I've missed?
(or actually rather vice versa)
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Post by Normi on Jul 18, 2017 2:44:28 GMT -5
Wild Thoughts: Still not impossible. Radio is gaining still fast which will eventually help it pick up sales and streams and with a discount it might just make it somehow
Unforgettable: It will peak next week
Meme: No
Taylor: Needs to happen soon
Eminem: Only ft. Rihanna
TΓP: No. Why do people think they can debut at #1?
Fetish: Naah will have a similar run as Good for you
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 18, 2017 6:37:24 GMT -5
Ya'll aren't very imaginative if you think Eminem's only shot at a #1 is with Rihanna. Not that I'm saying he even has a shot at a #1 but just because it happened before doesn't mean it'll happen again, even if they did work together. Eminem & Kendrick could do something. Eminem & Selena Gomez could do something if promoted the right way.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 18, 2017 8:48:59 GMT -5
One thing to remember if this happens or doesn't happen (Despacito beating the record). It does not mean who ever predicted/guessed whichever outcome happens is suddenly a genius predictor and their future predictions are to be held above everyone else's. Likewise, if someone gets it wrong, it does not mean they are to be dismissed for the rest of eternity. I am not saying people will act this way when the inevitable happens (it beats the record or something knocks it from the top), but sometimes people come across that way in the Billboard Hot 100 thread ("lol aren't you the person predicted X would happen?", "I got it right, I told you all I would, I knew all along*")
*you got lucky
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Post by Harx on Jul 18, 2017 8:57:50 GMT -5
^ Some people just treat everything like a competition who's right or wrong and you can't change them. Only thing you can do is not to go down to their level.
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Post by atg on Jul 18, 2017 10:03:25 GMT -5
lol, but imagine bieber himself dropping the lead single to his new album in august and be the one that ends despacito's reign 6 number ones in less than 2 years, if he ain't a legend, who is. If thats the case then that will continue the amount of weeks he's at #1 (# of weeks despacito will get+1 week with I'm the one)
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Post by bigbertha on Jul 18, 2017 10:39:18 GMT -5
Ya'll aren't very imaginative if you think Eminem's only shot at a #1 is with Rihanna. Not that I'm saying he even has a shot at a #1 but just because it happened before doesn't mean it'll happen again, even if they did work together. Eminem & Kendrick could do something. Eminem & Selena Gomez could do something if promoted the right way. Eminem will never work with Selena.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 18, 2017 10:46:17 GMT -5
How come?
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Post by Someone on Jul 18, 2017 15:31:39 GMT -5
I honestly could see unforgettable dethroning despacito. Has good sales, steams, and has huge crossover potential with pop.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 18:46:54 GMT -5
Well, I personally think the best threat to stop it from getting close is Wild Thoughts. But that's unlikely, because it doesn't seem to be getting a discount or huge radio boost anytime soon, and the hype from the album has pretty much died down. So in other words, Despacito's gonna come close. It might be too early to tell whether or not it'll make it, but it depends mainly on how many points it's gaining or losing each week, and how much the songs around it are gaining and losing. So if Wild Thoughts starts losing weekly points, even if it's just a little bit each week, that increases the chances of Despacito breaking the record. I'm unsure of how much Despacito is gaining or losing per week right now but since the lead over it and it's contenders is huge, it's gonna at least get close. It's a little too early to tell if it'll make it or no. If it's losing, then it'll take the contenders maybe 3-5 weeks to catch up (if they're gaining), bringing the total to 13-15 weeks. And if the contenders are losing, it'll prolly tie or break. So too early to tell now, but it depends on other threats and weekly changes.
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Post by flextamcsignals on Jul 18, 2017 20:31:34 GMT -5
If Unforgettable dethrones Despacito, it would be the second time in the past 12 months that a song tied to Rae Sremmurd takes out a long-running #1.
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Post by Envoirment on Jul 18, 2017 21:09:38 GMT -5
Eminem could have a #1 song/debut without Rihanna. He'll no doubt get to #1 on iTunes and is a streaming monster. If he drops the video when his lead single drops I can see it debuting at #1 easily.
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Post by Gary on Jul 19, 2017 8:13:45 GMT -5
For the "Down with Despacito" movement---- forget 17, how about 20 weeks Hot 100 maybe ;)
Maluma Bumps 'Despacito' From No. 1 on Latin Rhythm Airplay After 20-Week Reign 7/18/2017 by Xander Zellner
Maluma notches his fifth No. 1 on Billboardβs Latin Rhythm Airplay chart (dated July 29), as βFelices Los 4β rises 2-1 in its 12th week on the chart with 16.92 million audience impressions earned (up 3 percent) in the week ending July 13, according to Nielsen Music.
βFelices Los 4β bumps Luis Fonsi and Daddy Yankeeβs βDespacito,β featuring Justin Bieber, from No. 1 to No. 2 in its 27th week on the list. It falls to the runner-up slot with a 15 percent decline in audience for the week (for a total of 15.54 million impressions). "Despacito" led the tally for 20 nonconsecutive weeks, beginning on the March 4-dated chart.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 8:52:14 GMT -5
If Despacito breaks the record, hopefully it could make to 20 weeks and then this type of discussion will never happen again - maybe
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 19, 2017 10:27:22 GMT -5
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Post by wjr15 on Jul 19, 2017 12:18:47 GMT -5
This song is a streaming monster and we all know how stagnant songs get with high streaming.
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Post by fhas on Jul 19, 2017 13:16:57 GMT -5
Despacito's receiving a HUGE boost on iTunes thanks to the news of it breaking the streaming record.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2017 13:34:54 GMT -5
"Unforgettable" is the closest IMO, but that's still got awhile before going to #1.
Eminem can have a solid hit sure, but a #1 is only gonna come unless it's with Kendrick or he revisits Rihanna or Drake.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jul 19, 2017 13:41:53 GMT -5
Y'all need to stop with the "this artist will never debut at #1" crap. Did anyone think a year ago that Ed Sheeran would debut atop the chart? Anything can happen.
Now will Despacito slip soon? Hard to tell. It's fading on airplay, but it just broke the streaming record and the news caused a surge in sales. Wild Thoughts could pull a TGIF and discount the song to the top. Honestly, I feel like the only thing that will kill Despacito is Taylor Swift.
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Post by mcsteamy on Jul 19, 2017 13:43:49 GMT -5
So rigth now Despacito is outselling Wild Thoughts 4:1.......
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Post by bigbertha on Jul 19, 2017 13:51:19 GMT -5
I just can't see him working with female popstars like Selena, Taylor, etc. That don't exactly have the cool factor for straight men that Rihanna has.
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Post by Bigfatliar 3 on Jul 19, 2017 14:01:31 GMT -5
Wild thoughts will get that #1 on radio anytime soon. But..if i remember correctly, TWIL also topped radio for a few weeks and Shape of you was still #1. And now despacito is even bigger than SOY.
Plus, when Desp also breaks the see you again record, another boost on sales may happen again.
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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 19, 2017 14:08:32 GMT -5
Well, I guess Mariah and Boyz II Men's time at #1 is over. If Despacito is getting a sales boost because of it breaking the streaming record, there is no way Wild Thoughts will get to #1 without a boost in sales and streaming.
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