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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 15, 2017 0:19:01 GMT -5
Are we gonna pretend like Selena isn't an artist with a massive fanbase or....it was number for about a day and including both versions it wasn't even close. It showing weakness when its incredibly far ahead of everything charting doesnt mean much. Unless Taylor is dropping some bomb single soon or there's a wild thoughts challenge, Despacito has a pretty easy road ahead of it. So is Demi Lovato, she couldn't beat Despacito. Neither could Charlie Puth, Shawn Mendes, etc. Even with their discounts. So what point are you trying to make? That Selena is bigger than Shawn Demi and Charlie? We knew that.
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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 15, 2017 0:31:02 GMT -5
So is Demi Lovato, she couldn't beat Despacito. Neither could Charlie Puth, Shawn Mendes, etc. Even with their discounts. cuz its so strong lmao thanks for proving my point And yet, it lost the top spot in sales for a day. I think that should prove that Despacito is not as strong as you think.
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Post by Naos on Jul 15, 2017 0:32:19 GMT -5
So is Demi Lovato, she couldn't beat Despacito. Neither could Charlie Puth, Shawn Mendes, etc. Even with their discounts. cuz its so strong lmao thanks for proving my point I didn't prove your point when a freaking Selena Gomez song can beat it out. Especially since she does not do the best with singles. "Bad Liar" arguably underperformed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 0:45:14 GMT -5
just wait...
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jul 15, 2017 0:49:27 GMT -5
Yeesh this song is still a thing?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 1:25:46 GMT -5
Which is what you should have done with this **** thread. Just to head this off at the pass I don't care about the chart points. Most of the doubters don't, because we have been through this with pretty much every 12-14 week #1. People get overexcited at week 9 (bc they can already tell there's going to be a week 10) and they go on and on about how THIS song is the biggest hit in a long time and has so many points and clearly hasn't peaked and has no competition on the horizon yada yada yada I'm not saying it will or won't happen but you sound like every single person that was smugly sitting back and patiently waiting for UF to take its rightful crown before SYA showed up and killed the dream. Who was checking for Wiz Khalifa of all people to cut UF off? It isn't that people are just trying to allow for a potential Black Beatles bc that was a thing that happened once, it is that it is a thing that ALWAYS happens. There has always been some new or newish (and more often than not unforeseen) release that ends up getting in the way. We aren't just playing it safe, we're betting on the house. Stacked chart points in a constantly shapeshifting formula simply don't mean much in the face of consistent historical charting trends no matter how much you keep trying to shove that point in our faces. But whatever, tell me one more time how many chart points Despacito has, I dont think I figured it out the first 872 times you told us
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 15, 2017 5:55:53 GMT -5
cuz its so strong lmao thanks for proving my point And yet, it lost the top spot in sales for a day. I think that should prove that Despacito is not as strong as you think. Even in it's peak week in points it lost number one to 2U for like 2 days for it to basically flop.
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 15, 2017 6:25:15 GMT -5
Wonder WHEN is the right time to talk about song breaking longevity records.... week before? Two weeks before?
Personally, I wouldn't have opened this topic with SOY because that song wasn't really going to challenge OSD's number of weeks. However, this genuinely will.
And if it doesn't there's nothing wrong with speculating, although could be in the Your Opinion section.
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jul 15, 2017 7:33:26 GMT -5
What if Fetish will take it out? It has huge airplay potential, good streaming and sales.
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Post by macabyan on Jul 15, 2017 8:15:30 GMT -5
Which is what you should have done with this **** thread. But whatever, tell me one more time how many chart points Despacito has, I dont think I figured it out the first 872 times you told us
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Jul 15, 2017 8:37:36 GMT -5
What if Fetish will take it out? I fucking hope not.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 15, 2017 10:55:41 GMT -5
What if Fetish will take it out? It has huge airplay potential, good streaming and sales. that would be by the most surprising song to do it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 15:53:01 GMT -5
Yeah, Fetish would definitely be surprising seeing as Selena's never had a song peak higher than #5. Wonder WHEN is the right time to talk about song breaking longevity records.... week before? Two weeks before? Personally, I wouldn't have opened this topic with SOY because that song wasn't really going to challenge OSD's number of weeks. However, this genuinely will. And if it doesn't there's nothing wrong with speculating, although could be in the Your Opinion section. Two-three weeks tops. It's like the weather - a meteorologist can reasonably forecast the next two weeks but beyond that it's just pure speculation based on a lot of "if" scenarios and vague "well it's hot right now so it will probably still be hot in four weeks as long as conditions remain the same…so we'll keep an eye on whether or not conditions remain the same." That's the issue with this super early thread. It was made based on the assumption that conditions will remain the same, but we have no idea if conditions will remain the same over such an extended period. I'm totally willing to accept the possibility that August is about to be the most boring month ever and that nothing new will be released because the next batch of smashes are for some reason waiting on September, allowing Despacito to coast to victory. But I don't see how anyone could be comfortable enough to think said possibility is a probability. August is primetime for people readying fall releases. Taylor is most likely coming and you know she is going to pull out all the stops when she does. Bieber himself might have a new song up his sleeve. The other Justin might show up. Kesha might pull off the unexpected with a song from her album. There's already word on the street that Rihanna is filming a video for the lead to R9. Something could go viral. DJ Khaled might discount WT to 69 cents and release a remix in the 11th hour. Even if Despacito were able to tie, the VMAs are happening 8/27 and that brings an entire show's worth of potential threats with it. Horrible as this is to say, someone might die. I think you can reasonably predict whether a song will still be #1, or be in close contention for #1, a couple of weeks in advance based on how strong its metrics are holding. Obviously things like SYA can't be foreseen even at the last minute, but it made sense to speculate on UF around week 14 because it was still so clearly ahead of the pack and there were no expected big releases on the horizon before May (no way anyone could have predicted the song of the summer being a death tribute that reached the top of the chart by the second week of spring). If Despacito's chart situation around late August is looking like UF's was at the end of March 2015, then I can understand the desire to speculate. Until then the air of certainty about it is premature.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 15, 2017 16:01:31 GMT -5
I take some of the responsibility as I was asking about points and defending this thread. My reasoning for the points talk was that even though this discussion comes up whenever a song approaches 10 weeks, I think sometimes it can be warranted if people actually looked at the points and looked to see if the trends from past examples supported the prediction that in 7 weeks, this song could do it. To make a thread based on nothing other than the fact it's halfway there is ridiculous and in that sense, yes, wait to make the damn thread. If past examples using actual numbers indicate it's possible, even if it's still two months ago, make the thread and cite the prediction based on past evidence.
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Post by NeRD on Jul 15, 2017 17:07:35 GMT -5
Someone is going to be eating their words soon and I'm going to love every second of it. :)
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Post by Gary on Jul 15, 2017 18:02:40 GMT -5
We should do one of these for every new #1, eventually someone someday will be right. ;)
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Post by Kishi KCM on Jul 15, 2017 19:23:32 GMT -5
Ugh no, kill this song immediately.
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Post by Future Captain on Jul 16, 2017 12:09:59 GMT -5
lol, but imagine bieber himself dropping the lead single to his new album in august and be the one that ends despacito's reign
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jul 16, 2017 15:43:54 GMT -5
lol, but imagine bieber himself dropping the lead single to his new album in august and be the one that ends despacito's reign 6 number ones in less than 2 years, if he ain't a legend, who is.
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Post by jeiboy on Jul 16, 2017 17:57:30 GMT -5
DESPACITO's TIMELINE to tying MARIAH's RECORD 1st week at #1 - 518 2nd week at #1 - 610 (+92) 3rd week at #1 - 660 (+50) 4th week at #1 - 703 (+43) 5th week at #1 - 737 (+35) 6th week at #1 - 768 (+31) (peaked in overall points) 7th week at #1 - 748 (-20) (point decline starts) JUNE 21: Summer begins officially 8th week at #1 - 722 (-26) 9th week at #1 - 720 points (-2) Wild Thoughts: 397 points Gap difference from Wild Thoughts: 323 points
July 17 - 10th week at #1 (data from July 7 to 13) Final prediction: 696 (-24 points) *NEAREST COMPETITION: DJ Khaled/Rihanna/Bryson Tiller - Wild Thoughts (376 points) (-21 points) GAP DIFFERENCE: 320 points ***Demi releases lead single Sorry Not Sorry in July 11 / ***Selena Gomez releases Fetish in July 13 w/ Gucci Mane
July 24 - 11th (data from July 14 to 20) July 31 - 12th (data from July 21 to 27) ***Lana del Rey album release August 7 - 13th (data from July 28 to August 3) August 14 - 14th (data from August 4 to 10) ***Possible Taylor Swift release August 21 - 15th (data from August 11 to 17) **Kesha album release** ***Possible Taylor Swift release August 28 - 16th (data from August 18 to 24) ***Possible Taylor Swift release ***breaks record****September 2 - 17th (data from August 25 to 31) ***Possible Taylor Swift release September 22- Summer ends officially ***Numerical data courtesy of simmfierzig's weekly prediction points
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Jul 16, 2017 18:02:27 GMT -5
The best case scenario is for a surprise release from Taylor Swift or another big artist that topples it without Rihanna getting a #1 and without Despacito snatching One Sweet Day's record. My poor lamb heart can't take any other outcome.
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jul 16, 2017 18:11:16 GMT -5
I'm going to say that it'll have 14/15 weeks and Taylor or Unforgettable will dethrone it. Very close but... Not there.
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Post by NeRD on Jul 16, 2017 18:18:39 GMT -5
I'm going to say that it'll have 14/15 weeks and Taylor or Unforgettable will dethrone it. Very close but... Not there. Unforgettable?
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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 16, 2017 18:20:04 GMT -5
I'm going to say that it'll have 14/15 weeks and Taylor or Unforgettable will dethrone it. Very close but... Not there. Unforgettable? By French Montana and Swae Lee. It's #10 on the Hot 100.
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Post by NeRD on Jul 16, 2017 18:24:00 GMT -5
By French Montana and Swae Lee. It's #10 on the Hot 100. I know the song. I was just curious as to how it could go #1 if Wild Thoughts didn't get the first.
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jul 16, 2017 18:24:06 GMT -5
I mean, It has huge potential. I think it has a better shot than Wild Thoughts. I know, I'm fucked up.
But who knows, Kygo and Slim Jxmmi or whatever the fuck he's called can remix Look At Me! and reach #1.
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Post by MilesW1998 on Jul 16, 2017 18:28:01 GMT -5
I mean, It has huge potential. I think it has a better shot than Wild Thoughts. I know, I'm f**ked up. But who knows, Kygo and Slim Jxmmi or whatever the f**k he's called can remix Look At Me! and reach #1. I mean, it has a lot of room to grow on radio and sales.
No, get that thought out of your head!
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Post by bigbertha on Jul 16, 2017 18:28:54 GMT -5
I just thought of something: Eminem ft Taylor and a Taylor ft Eminem. Breath of fresh air from Rihanna and good segues into their new albums, coming soon That will never happen. Prepare for more EmRih in the future.
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Post by wjr15 on Jul 17, 2017 16:56:32 GMT -5
lol, but imagine bieber himself dropping the lead single to his new album in august and be the one that ends despacito's reign 6 number ones in less than 2 years, if he ain't a legend, who is. Katy says hi 😘 But in reference to this thread, I agree it is a bit early to start this thread at only 10 weeks. However, there is a good chance this could get close to the record. I'd say 14 weeks is pretty much guaranteed which would take Despacito into the beginning of August releases. After that, it will all depend on the competition. Also, the mention about the VMAs is a good point. If no big artist drops a massive lead single in August, there's a good chance that someone with a VMA performance would dethrone Despacito since by that time, it would most likely be holding onto number one by a very small percentage. But this is all 100% speculation based on past situations. Plus, look at how long Shape Of You has been holding onto the Top 5 and Despacito is already a stronger #1 than SOY was (minus it's debut week). Also, I could see Taylor releasing her lead single 8/25 to line up with a VMA performance for a surefire chance for #1 (same for what she did for Shake It Off) which barring any major release before that, would give Despacito 16 weeks to tie the record. Wild Thoughts is gonna be stuck at its #2 peak.
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Post by .It'sGriffin on Jul 17, 2017 17:04:29 GMT -5
List of threats to Despacito mentioned on Pulse:
Wild Thoughts Unforgettable Meme Taylor Eminem TØP Fetish
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