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Post by rimetm on Oct 23, 2017 16:35:03 GMT -5
New Music This Week
Bedroom Floor / Liam Payne
Gorgeous / Taylor Swift
Millionaire / Chris Stapleton
Miss Me More / Kelsea Ballerini
New Music Videos This Week
Havana / Camila Cabello
Meant to Be / Bebe Rexha
...Ready For It? / Taylor Swift
Silence / Marshmello
Discount List
Bodak Yellow (Money Moves) / Cardi B.
Boy / Lee Brice
Friends / Justin Bieber & BloodPop
Love So Soft / Kelly Clarkson
Meant to Be / Bebe Rexha feat. Florida Georgia Line
Mi Gente / J. Balvin & Willy William
New Rules / Dua Lipa
Redbone / Childish Gambino
Sorry Not Sorry / Demi Lovato
Strip That Down / Liam Payne feat. Quavo
What Lovers Do / Maroon 5 feat. SZA
Additions
Meant to Be / Bebe Rexha feat. Florida Georgia Line
What Lovers Do / Maroon 5 feat. SZA
Removals
Whatever it Takes / Imagine Dragons
Sales Forecast (courtesy of kworb)
71 - Thunder
61 - Gorgeous
56 - Rockstar
55 - Perfect
42 - Havana
40 - Feel It Still
37 - What Lovers Do
36 - Sorry Not Sorry
36 - Bodak Yellow
31 - Look What You Made Me Do
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Post by Someone on Oct 23, 2017 16:41:34 GMT -5
simmnfierzig‘s early predictions
1 Rockstar 484 (=)
2 Bodak Yellow 349 (=)
3 1-800-273-8255 315 (=)
4 Feel It Still 300 (=)
5 Thunder 278 (=)
6 Sorry Not Sorry 265 (+1)
7 Mi Gente 254 (-1)
8 Too Good At Goodbyes 225 (=)
9 I Get The Bag 214 (+2)
10 Bank Account 213
11 What Lovers Do 213
12 Havana 210 (+8)
13 Unforgettable 207 (-4)
14 Believer 206
15 Despacito 206
16 Attention 204
17 Perfect 204 (+1)
18 Gorgeous 195 (debut)
21 Look What You Made Me Do 188 (-11)
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Oct 24, 2017 8:11:37 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 10/24/20171. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (162.174) (+2.842) 2. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention (143.828) (-0.586) 3. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (125.140) (-0.714) *** 4. (=) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo (119.744) (-0.536) 5. (=) LOGIC - 1-800-273-8255 f/A.Cara/Khalid (115.393) (+0.688) *** 6. (+2) DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry (114.704) (+2.280) 7. (=) P!NK - What About Us (114.701) (+2.174) *** 8. (-2) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands (112.293) (-1.544) 9. (=) FRENCH MONTANA - Unforgettable f/Swae Lee (107.268) (-1.579) 10. (=) MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA (102.210) (+0.015) 11. (=) ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You (99.366) (-0.379) 12. (+2) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (97.243) (+2.225) 13. (-1) CARDI B - Bodak Yellow (97.168) (+0.939) 14. (-1) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer (94.547) (-0.821) 15. (=) SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes (90.011) (+1.110) 16. (=) J BALVIN - Mi Gente f/Willy William (84.587) (+1.225) 17. (=) THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This (82.500) (-0.623) 18. (+1) KESHA - Praying (80.631) (+0.350) 19. (-1) TAYLOR SWIFT - Look What You Made Me Do (77.683) (-5.336) 20. (=) BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like (76.683) (-1.060) Others: 24. (=) POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage (67.968) (+1.949) 25. (+1) LUKE COMBS - When It Rains It Pours (66.222) (+1.047) 26. (+2) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (65.049) (+1.476) 33. (+2) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (55.408) (+2.079)
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 24, 2017 8:49:06 GMT -5
^ kworb.net/airadio/41 (+2) KELLY CLARKSON - Love So Soft 44.331 (+0.378) 46 (+1) HALSEY - Bad At Love 41.930 (+0.584) 49 (+1) TAYLOR SWIFT - Ready For It 38.914 (+0.733) 55 (+1) DUA LIPA - New Rules 32.910 (+0.099) |
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Post by kcdawg13 on Oct 24, 2017 11:49:36 GMT -5
I'm actually surprised on how well Wild Thoughts has held up, knowing that it's basically dead everywhere. I'm guessing the reason it's still hanging on is because of YouTube.
As for Look What You Made Me Do, I don't think it'll be out of the Top 20 next week, maybe like #17. Though I don't expect it to be around for very long, the album release and maybe some Year-End airplay should keep it around for at least 20 weeks, sales are still holding up. Even though streaming and radio are deader than disco lol.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2017 11:53:52 GMT -5
Looks like Thunder is gonna be Overall AI top 10 before the end of the tracking week.  |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Oct 25, 2017 8:14:59 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 10/25/20171. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (164.812) (+2.638) 2. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention (143.984) (+0.156) 3. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (124.775) (-0.365) 4. (=) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo (118.906) (-0.838) 5. (+1) DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry (116.934) (+2.230) *** 6. (-1) LOGIC - 1-800-273-8255 f/A.Cara/Khalid (116.928) (+1.535) *** 7. (=) P!NK - What About Us (116.121) (+1.420) 8. (=) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands (110.588) (-1.705) 9. (=) FRENCH MONTANA - Unforgettable f/Swae Lee (105.209) (-2.059) 10. (=) MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA (102.758) (+0.548) 11. (+1) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (98.952) (+1.709) 12. (-1) ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You (98.727) (-0.639) 13. (=) CARDI B - Bodak Yellow (96.927) (-0.241) 14. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer (93.509) (-1.038) 15. (=) SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes (89.940) (-0.071) 16. (=) J BALVIN - Mi Gente f/Willy William (84.925) (+0.338) 17. (=) THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This (81.817) (-0.683) 18. (=) KESHA - Praying (81.347) (+0.716) 19. (+1) BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like (76.797) (+0.114) 20. (-1) TAYLOR SWIFT - Look What You Made Me Do (73.394) (-4.289) Others: 23. (+1) POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage (69.254) (+1.286) 26. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (66.381) (+1.332) 33. (=) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (57.256) (+1.848) 72. (+5) CHARLIE PUTH - How Long (27.476) (+1.442)
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Post by forg on Oct 25, 2017 9:29:07 GMT -5
Sorry Not Sorry doing so well on airplay, still top 10 on itunes and top 15 on Spotify. Looks like it has a shot for a top 5 peak if airplay continues to do well
Praying's airplay performance is quite impressive, didn't expect it to last this long
Havana's music video finally out, top 6 on Spotify, top 5 iTunes, airplay continues to rise. Looks like a top 10 placing this week?
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Post by CF15 on Oct 25, 2017 16:38:07 GMT -5
21 Look What You Made Me Do 188 (-11) LOL! |
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Post by scrohr424 on Oct 26, 2017 5:40:01 GMT -5
21 Look What You Made Me Do 188 (-11) LOL! Couldn't have said it better myself. - Debuts at #77 with just three days of radio - Blasts up to #1 with THE biggest streaming and sales week of the entire year - Takes perhaps the most brutal drops in radio that we've seen in a long time - Lasts not even ten weeks in the Top 10 Goodness. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 26, 2017 5:53:23 GMT -5
Be careful how you list those facts. Wouldn't want someone flying in here causing a dispute.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Oct 26, 2017 8:12:22 GMT -5
kworb.net/airadio/*** = Dropped or added a format Overall AI (Top 20) - 10/26/20171. (=) PORTUGAL. THE MAN - Feel It Still (167.232) (+2.420) 2. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - Attention (143.076) (-0.908) 3. (=) SHAWN MENDES - There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back (123.536) (-1.239) 4. (=) LIAM PAYNE - Strip That Down f/Quavo (118.409) (-0.497) 5. (=) DEMI LOVATO - Sorry Not Sorry (118.185) (+1.251) 6. (=) LOGIC - 1-800-273-8255 f/A.Cara/Khalid (117.393) (+0.465) *** 7. (=) P!NK - What About Us (116.570) (+0.449) 8. (=) NIALL HORAN - Slow Hands (109.297) (-1.291) 9. (=) FRENCH MONTANA - Unforgettable f/Swae Lee (104.013) (-1.196) 10. (=) MAROON 5 - What Lovers Do f/SZA (103.346) (+0.588) 11. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder (100.967) (+2.015) 12. (=) ED SHEERAN - Shape Of You (98.068) (-0.659) 13. (=) CARDI B - Bodak Yellow (96.918) (-0.009) 14. (=) IMAGINE DRAGONS - Believer (92.136) (-1.373) 15. (=) SAM SMITH - Too Good At Goodbyes (91.287) (+1.347) 16. (=) J BALVIN - Mi Gente f/Willy William (84.809) (-0.116) 17. (+1) KESHA - Praying (82.360) (+1.013) 18. (-1) THE CHAINSMOKERS & COLDPLAY - Something Just Like This (82.314) (+0.497) 19. (=) BRUNO MARS - That's What I Like (77.768) (+0.971) 20. (+3) POST MALONE - Rockstar f/21 Savage (71.160) (+1.906) Others: 25. (=) LUKE COMBS - When It Rains It Pours (68.123) (+1.039) 26. (=) ED SHEERAN - Perfect (67.698) (+1.317) 32. (+1) CAMILA CABELLO - Havana f/Young Thug (58.886) (+1.630) 35. (=) CHRIS JANSON - Fix A Drink (54.162) (+1.093) 47. (+2) TAYLOR SWIFT - Ready For It (41.264) (+1.467) 72. (=) CHARLIE PUTH - How Long (28.529) (+1.053) 73. (=) KENDRICK LAMAR - LOVE. (28.510) (+1.153)
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 26, 2017 8:58:47 GMT -5
Considering its strong sales performance and "SOY" finally being done, I'm surprised "Perfect" isn't flying up radios faster.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Oct 26, 2017 9:18:10 GMT -5
Part of me doesn't believe it would just naturally plummet like this but ya never know
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Post by scrohr424 on Oct 26, 2017 12:23:48 GMT -5
*sees #73* Oh, NOW it's being pushed as a single? After it's already left the Hot 100? I hope they know what they're doing at this point.
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Post by rainie on Oct 26, 2017 12:39:35 GMT -5
*sees #73* Oh, NOW it's being pushed as a single? After it's already left the Hot 100? I hope they know what they're doing at this point. To be fair if they pushed it any sooner it would've cannibalized Humble or Loyalty. I personally would've gone with Love second, but I don't think Loyalty was a bad choice instead, and they made the right decision in not pushing a third single until now. |
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Oct 26, 2017 12:45:32 GMT -5
*sees #73* Oh, NOW it's being pushed as a single? After it's already left the Hot 100? I hope they know what they're doing at this point. To be fair if they pushed it any sooner it would've cannibalized Humble or Loyalty. I personally would've gone with Love second, but I don't think Loyalty was a bad choice instead, and they made the right decision in not pushing a third single until now. "LOVE." is actually the fourth single from DAMN. though. "HUMBLE." is the first, "DNA." is the 2nd, and "LOYALTY." is the 3rd. |
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Post by inverse on Oct 26, 2017 12:49:32 GMT -5
Ok but the annoying part is unless it returns to the hot 100 like right in the 11/11 chart or 11/18 chart it's not gonna be enough to make the year end list so maybe it would have been better to do it earlier. Better to cut Loyalty off at 24 weeks instead of 26 and get Love onto the year end list as well than to let Loyalty fall off naturally and have Love miss completely.
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Post by renfield75 on Oct 26, 2017 15:07:10 GMT -5
Do the labels care about the year end list? I've been following the charts since 1990 and even I don't really care about the year end list.
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Post by forg on Oct 26, 2017 16:15:35 GMT -5
Do the labels care about the year end list? I've been following the charts since 1990 and even I don't really care about the year end list. especially the Billboard year span makes it a little less interesting for non chart geeks I guess the #1 will benefit from extra coverage, additional media mileage |
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 26, 2017 16:22:16 GMT -5
Ok but the annoying part is unless it returns to the hot 100 like right in the 11/11 chart or 11/18 chart it's not gonna be enough to make the year end list so maybe it would have been better to do it earlier. Better to cut Loyalty off at 24 weeks instead of 26 and get Love onto the year end list as well than to let Loyalty fall off naturally and have Love miss completely. The labels do not care about things like that, certainly not to the extent you do. |
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Post by Gary on Oct 26, 2017 17:15:46 GMT -5
The year end lists are a fun read AT YEAR END but I don't think anyone obsesses over year-end positioning all year long like some people in these threads.
But no, I don't think label release strategies have anything to do with getting enough points for placement on the year end list
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Post by badrobot on Oct 26, 2017 18:56:37 GMT -5
Do the labels care about the year end list? I've been following the charts since 1990 and even I don't really care about the year end list. It is honestly bizarre how this forum has become obsessed with the year end list in the past couple years. |
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Post by Someone on Oct 26, 2017 20:18:32 GMT -5
simmnfierzig‘s updated predictions
1 Rockstar 460 (=)
2 Bodak Yellow 343 (=)
3 1-800-273-8255 309 (=)
4 Feel It Still 293 (=)
5 Thunder 277 (=)
6 Sorry Not Sorry 259 (+1)
7 Havana 248 (+13)
8 Mi Gente 248 (-2)
9 Too Good At Goodbyes 230 (-1)
10 I Get The Bag 214 (+1)
11 What Lovers Do 212 (+8)
12 Perfect 209 (+6)
13 Unforgettable 206 (-4)
14 Bank Account 205 (+2)
15 Despacito 203 (=)
16 Attention 200 (-4)
17 Believer 200 (-3)
18 Gorgeous 198 (debut)
19 Gucci Gang 192 (+8)
20 Rake It Up 192 (-3)
21 Look What You Made Me Do 179 (-11)
32 Bad At Love 145 (=)
36 New Rules 134 (+2)
76 Bedroom Floor 62 (debut)
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Post by Someone on Oct 26, 2017 20:19:05 GMT -5
Can’t believe Lil Pump is getting a Top 20 Hot .-.
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Post by brady47 on Oct 26, 2017 23:00:11 GMT -5
Does anyone have a list of most top 10 weeks in Radio Songs?
I feel like "Shape of You" easily obliterated the old record, which I think was held by Torn by Natalie Imbruglia but not 100% sure.
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Post by brady47 on Oct 26, 2017 23:02:12 GMT -5
Ok but the annoying part is unless it returns to the hot 100 like right in the 11/11 chart or 11/18 chart it's not gonna be enough to make the year end list so maybe it would have been better to do it earlier. Better to cut Loyalty off at 24 weeks instead of 26 and get Love onto the year end list as well than to let Loyalty fall off naturally and have Love miss completely. The labels do not care about things like that, certainly not to the extent you do. Yeah it's annoying, but if labels really cared, they would be waiting until the tracking year to begin to release songs. At the end of the day, they make money, whether the hit makes #3 on the year end, or #19 in one year and #45 in the next year. It'd be nice if we had point totals for songs just to get an idea of their relative success because when a song's points gets splits into two years, it becomes more difficult to gauge how big of a hit it is. |
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Post by inverse on Oct 26, 2017 23:07:04 GMT -5
That is the weakest #2 I have ever seen. The entire top 5 is super weak, I wonder what's gonna come along and add some competition. I remember earlier in the year 27000 points wasn't even good for top 10 and Mask Off was at #6 with 35000 so it would be great if some songs like those would show up soon
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Post by fhas on Oct 27, 2017 5:00:45 GMT -5
That is the weakest #2 I have ever seen. The entire top 5 is super weak, I wonder what's gonna come along and add some competition. I remember earlier in the year 27000 points wasn't even good for top 10 and Mask Off was at #6 with 35000 so it would be great if some songs like those would show up soon I think Rockstar's 2nd week at #2 was the weakest of the year (34,400 points *projected). Over the past 18 months, Bad And Boujee, Heathens, Cold Water had pretty weak points for a #2 as well. |
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Post by Gary on Oct 27, 2017 8:17:34 GMT -5
The labels do not care about things like that, certainly not to the extent you do. Yeah it's annoying, but if labels really cared, they would be waiting until the tracking year to begin to release songs. At the end of the day, they make money, whether the hit makes #3 on the year end, or #19 in one year and #45 in the next year. It'd be nice if we had point totals for songs just to get an idea of their relative success because when a song's points gets splits into two years, it becomes more difficult to gauge how big of a hit it is. This is a magazine year-end chart that does not actually end at the end of the year. Fun fact: The year does not actually begin on December 1, just because Billboard says it does. This goes for any product but products like music gets released and marketed differently during the holidays than they do at the first of the year. A lot of year-end and holiday shopping occurs in December. New-Year shopping is always a bit different. I don't see anybody (labels or otherwise) changing that so they can conform to a Billboard chart year. |
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