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Post by areyoureadytojump on Dec 16, 2017 13:43:46 GMT -5
OUCH hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=309769Saturday, December 16, 2017 YOUR SHADY NEW RELEASESThe long-awaited new set from Eminem leads the week's pack of new releases; here's how things look based on early reads. Eminem (Shady/Aftermath/Interscope) 280-300k total, 190-210k album G-Eazy (BPG/Revels Group/RCA) 135-155k, 85-95k Jeezy (Def Jam) 55-65k, 35-40k Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Walt Disney) 38-44k, 36-40k N.E.R.D. (N.E.R.D./Columbia) 16-21k, 9-12k
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Post by Glove Slap on Dec 16, 2017 13:45:12 GMT -5
Terrible opening for Eminem, good numbers for G-Eazy.
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Post by Golden Bluebird on Dec 16, 2017 13:58:05 GMT -5
G-Eazy (BPG/Revels Group/RCA) 135-155k, 85-95k Jeezy (Def Jam) 55-65k, 35-40k lol
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Post by Duca on Dec 16, 2017 13:59:52 GMT -5
But I was told he was doing 1m when I predicted 300k?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 14:33:55 GMT -5
Ouch, looks like this is performing closer to my low estimate of 150-200k. Not quite THAT low (it was kind of a worst-case scenario estimate), but this goes in line with my prediction that Eminem is now a legacy act.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 14:43:19 GMT -5
Eminem has deffinitely Trump effect, this world aint the same.
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Post by Envoirment on Dec 16, 2017 14:45:46 GMT -5
Quite a big drop from Eminem's last album opening. Even with a lower than expected opening, I can see the album having a good amount of staying power with "River" looking to be huge and there are a coulpe more songs that could make great singles. The P!nk collab on the album sounds huge.
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Post by DJ General on Dec 16, 2017 15:05:01 GMT -5
Oh well. Guess I was wrong
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Post by think pink. on Dec 16, 2017 19:31:35 GMT -5
Guess that happens when you tell your fanbase to choose between you or their president.
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Post by MilesW1998 on Dec 16, 2017 19:37:12 GMT -5
Expected this. It would go to #1 anyway, but I expected album sales for the first week to be less than what it's predicted. I was think like 150K-250K, not 400K-800K like some people were suggesting.. Here's a tip; don't alienate your audience through political means at all, it only hurts your career in the long-run.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2017 19:49:55 GMT -5
Guess that happens when you tell your fanbase to choose between you or their president. It's also lacking a hit and getting poor reviews, so that's not helping him either.
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Post by thewp on Dec 16, 2017 19:52:04 GMT -5
Guess that happens when you tell your fanbase to choose between you or their president. puh-leaze
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 16, 2017 20:09:52 GMT -5
^I don't think they cater to the same audience at all. Eminem's relatively low numbers (I was thinking in the 300-400k range) is probably more a consequence of not musically relevant since the songs from his last album hit the charts. Had he had a hit as a featured artist at some point since then, at least that would have kept him in people's minds.
Regarding G-Eazy's numbers, that's quite a surprise. His new album would beat in both SPS and pure sales his prior album by more than a 10:1. This year very few artists how performed better with their new albums in the opening weeks and he wouldn't be one that would come to mind as doing so in such proportions.
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Post by Gary on Dec 16, 2017 20:13:09 GMT -5
He has certainly been visible. He is one of four artists to be in the artist 100 since itβs inception. This would mean he has been in peoples minds
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 16, 2017 20:20:23 GMT -5
^Actually, that's mostly due to Curtain Call: The Hits charting in the Billboard 200 more than anything else.
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Post by Bwol on Dec 16, 2017 20:23:21 GMT -5
Wow those sales are so low. Iβm really surprised tbh.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 16, 2017 20:35:23 GMT -5
Expected this. It would go to #1 anyway, but I expected album sales for the first week to be less than what it's predicted. I was think like 150K-250K, not 400K-800K like some people were suggesting.. Here's a tip; don't alienate your audience through political means at all, it only hurts your career in the long-run. That's the antithesis of artistic expression.
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Post by MilesW1998 on Dec 16, 2017 20:45:37 GMT -5
Expected this. It would go to #1 anyway, but I expected album sales for the first week to be less than what it's predicted. I was think like 150K-250K, not 400K-800K like some people were suggesting.. Here's a tip; don't alienate your audience through political means at all, it only hurts your career in the long-run. That's the antithesis of artistic expression. Then alienate your fanbase, deal with sales decline, and have worse reviews than your last couple albums. See what happens to your career in the long-run.
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Post by Gary on Dec 16, 2017 20:47:26 GMT -5
^Actually, that's mostly due to Curtain Call: The Hits charting in the Billboard 200 more than anything else. Whatever the case. Still exposure and moreso than most other artists each week.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Dec 16, 2017 20:47:28 GMT -5
It's not the political statement, it's the trash material that he created as a means to express himself as to why this isn't a good buy. This is what I expected after a surprise release Beyonce assisted single did nothing. If he wanted to keep the hype up from the BET Cypher he should've released a similarly charged political anthem, unfortunately, that's not what we received.
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It's not the political statement, it's the trash material that he created as a means to express himself as to why this isn't a good buy. This is what I expected after a surprise release Beyonce assisted single did nothing. If he wanted to keep the hype up from the BET Cypher he should've released a similarly charged political anthem, unfortunately, that's not what we received. Exactly. Even if he had released this album with the same material right after the BET Cypher, his sales would have been nearly identical. Maybe they would have been just a little higher but maybe just 20-50K more. Not much. Even though the combination of Eminem and Beyonce on paper sounds interesting, the resulting collaboration was extremely boring and its chart performance reflected that. I do think that if it were a better song overall it may have done better.
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Post by Oprah on Dec 16, 2017 21:18:17 GMT -5
Guess that happens when you tell your fanbase to choose between you or their president. Yeah he shouldn't have provoked his white trash stans like that.
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 16, 2017 22:16:25 GMT -5
That's the antithesis of artistic expression. Then alienate your fanbase, deal with sales decline, and have worse reviews than your last couple albums. See what happens to your career in the long-run. So, the Dixie Chicks should have never spoken out against George Bush, right?
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Post by Keelzit on Dec 16, 2017 22:27:52 GMT -5
No Rihanna, no hit, no album sales. I wouldn't call it a flop because these are respectable numbers all things considered but his decline is real. This was supposed to be a return to form after the poor (critical) reception his last few albums got but at least those had the massive sales to balance the equation. This time around though both critics and fans are turning their back on him so I wonder whether he decides to never release an album again or keep on releasing until he gets back both the acclaim and his usual sales.
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Post by shayonce on Dec 16, 2017 22:49:46 GMT -5
^ N.E.R.D. (N.E.R.D./Columbia) 16-21k, 9-12k.
the sales market is not good, then his politics, his lack of hits.. him being old in very young/trendy/social media music hiphop genre..
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 17, 2017 3:18:02 GMT -5
N*E*R*D should've waited until January at least.
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Post by Glove Slap on Dec 17, 2017 3:58:16 GMT -5
Here's a tip; don't alienate your audience through political means at all, it only hurts your career in the long-run. That's the antithesis of artistic expression. Then alienate your fanbase, deal with sales decline, and have worse reviews than your last couple albums. See what happens to your career in the long-run. Reviews (credible ones anyway) are based on the material, not views. And once you are past a certain amount of time as a contemporary act (which Eminem absolutely is given that he is coming up on 20 years since coming to attention), when you have to accept that there will be a decline in numbers. But there's a difference between taking a piece of work or campaign to task on its intention, musical and lyrical presentation, both in intent and execution (whether it's more liberal or conservative), and the extremely narrow-minded, and quite frankly, bordering on fascistic, views that you are approaching here on artistic expression. It is a very dangerous mindset for self-expression, satisfaction, and individuality altogether, to be so beholden to public opinion as an artist past a certain point after hitting huge success. A point that Eminem arguably passed with Recovery. Eminem's always been upfront about his default White Trash appeal, he's directly spoken about how White kids (and further more angry and disillusioned White kids) could identify with him because he was White as well, and how that gave him an advantage over his POC peers. I am kinda curious how he would have sold if he dropped the album right after the BET Cypher without having previewed anything. But given that he's only predicted to sell around 200k in hard sales, I have trouble believing that he would have tripled those numbers, though there is an argument that they would have been notably higher than what it is predicted currently given his outspoken reputation in the past. In addition to the response to the material, I agree with Linnethia Monique that there was a big disconnect between his initial re-entrance focusing so strongly on the political climate, and the full-on introspective take on the lead single. He tried to straddle two very big extremes in terms of subject, and fell into the middle, losing interest from both sides of the spectrum.
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Post by BlueSwan on Dec 17, 2017 11:25:00 GMT -5
Terrible sales for Eminem. I guess nothing lasts forever. His longevity until now had been incredible.
Not sure how much of it is his politics. The interest just isn't really there anymore. I'm a massive Eminem fan and even I haven't been that excited about this coming out - and that is despite his last album being brilliant.
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 17, 2017 11:27:43 GMT -5
River is going to be a big hit though, so the whole project should easily reach platinum status.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Dec 17, 2017 11:30:05 GMT -5
Then alienate your fanbase, deal with sales decline, and have worse reviews than your last couple albums. See what happens to your career in the long-run. So, the Dixie Chicks should have never spoken out against George Bush, right? I do wonder if the same people who say they don't care about what an artist has done (ie, assault, beat a woman, etc, etc) also felt the same when the Dixie Chicks were being trashed for speaking against Bush? I've tried asking a few and the answer is always conveniently "I never liked the Dixie Chicks music in the first place." Huh
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