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Post by jimmy's carhartt on Feb 5, 2019 20:55:49 GMT -5
Ughhhh, they are so talented. Love this LeeAnn cover. Damn I wish they're original material was this strong. I wish any mainstream material these days was this strong.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Feb 6, 2019 9:46:45 GMT -5
I’m hoping they drop this the second it gets an official Top 30 peak. I see no reason to continue dragging this one out when you have something like Die From A Broken Heart selling/streaming fantastic without any promo, video, or even radio play. It has potential to become a huge hit for the girls if pushed properly and I hope they’ve realized that.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 18, 2019 16:57:13 GMT -5
I hope they can sneak this one into the top 30 in the next few weeks and then they'll be incentivized to go ahead and drop and release "Die from a Broken Heart" as the follow-up and hopefully the sales interest from that one will propel it to a higher peak than "Friends Don't" was able to acheive and be enough buzz to get their sophomore album out there.
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Post by raylatch98 on Feb 18, 2019 21:09:11 GMT -5
I do not really get the point in keeping this alive for a few positions higher on the chart, just for the sake of it, as it has pretty much done all it is going to do and "Friends Don't" is one of the weakest songs on the chart and will probably get passed by a good chunk of new songs soon (Carly Pearce, Eric Church, Brantley Gilbert/Lindsay Ell, Kacey Musgraves, Tim McGraw, new Thomas Rhett). I think it would take a month to 6 weeks minimum to hit the Top 30, if it even has enough in the tank to hit the Top 30. This song peaking a few spots higher won't change much beyond a few spots on the charts. This song won't get the album out, has very minimal fan interest from the start, and having a song that isn't even on radio that is still selling well that is outselling the vast majority of the current chart including this song, just continuing to remain unreleased is beyond infuriating. The fan interest is with "Die From A Broken Heart" and I hope them performing it at CRS seals the deal and they release it to radio by late March.
I will never get the label's decision to keep with this song for over 9 months, when it was clear from October that this song wasn't gonna amount too much.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 18, 2019 22:15:26 GMT -5
I do not really get the point in keeping this alive for a few positions higher on the chart, just for the sake of it, as it has pretty much done all it is going to do and "Friends Don't" is one of the weakest songs on the chart and will probably get passed by a good chunk of new songs soon (Carly Pearce, Eric Church, Brantley Gilbert/Lindsay Ell, Kacey Musgraves, Tim McGraw, new Thomas Rhett). I think it would take a month to 6 weeks minimum to hit the Top 30, if it even has enough in the tank to hit the Top 30. This song peaking a few spots higher won't change much beyond a few spots on the charts. This song won't get the album out, has very minimal fan interest from the start, and having a song that isn't even on radio that is still selling well that is outselling the vast majority of the current chart including this song, just continuing to remain unreleased is beyond infuriating. The fan interest is with "Die From A Broken Heart" and I hope them performing it at CRS seals the deal and they release it to radio by late March. I will never get the label's decision to keep with this song for over 9 months, when it was clear from October that this song wasn't gonna amount too much. I think it bodes better for "Die from a Broken Heart" to be a hit with "Friends Don't" peaking higher on the charts before it, even if it didn't get the album out and sold poorly during its run. It got their foot back in the door with country radio by making it into the top 40 and even if it ultimately misses the top 30, I think it looks better for them at radio than if the label had just given up on this when it was struggling in the 40s. It's the same reason why labels try their best to hit #1 with every release nowadays that makes it as high as top 10, even when to most people it doesn't matter if a song hits #1 or if it peaks at say, #3 or 4, because they can leverage "our last song hit #1" with stations which looks better than a song that didn't go all the way. The fact that it's made it as high as #33 is actually pretty good because for awhile it didn't look like it would make it out of the 40s, and I think that'll help them in the eyes of radio. I think that's the reason they've stuck with it, and even with consumer interest in "Die from a Broken Heart," it will surely take several months for that one to get going on the charts as well if it is to ultimately turn into a hit because that's how country radio operates and the period of November-February isn't the best time to launch a new single for an artist in their position, so I think it's for the best that they held off and I feel like a late March release would be pretty ideal for it.
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Post by raylatch98 on Feb 18, 2019 22:37:30 GMT -5
I do not really get the point in keeping this alive for a few positions higher on the chart, just for the sake of it, as it has pretty much done all it is going to do and "Friends Don't" is one of the weakest songs on the chart and will probably get passed by a good chunk of new songs soon (Carly Pearce, Eric Church, Brantley Gilbert/Lindsay Ell, Kacey Musgraves, Tim McGraw, new Thomas Rhett). I think it would take a month to 6 weeks minimum to hit the Top 30, if it even has enough in the tank to hit the Top 30. This song peaking a few spots higher won't change much beyond a few spots on the charts. This song won't get the album out, has very minimal fan interest from the start, and having a song that isn't even on radio that is still selling well that is outselling the vast majority of the current chart including this song, just continuing to remain unreleased is beyond infuriating. The fan interest is with "Die From A Broken Heart" and I hope them performing it at CRS seals the deal and they release it to radio by late March. I will never get the label's decision to keep with this song for over 9 months, when it was clear from October that this song wasn't gonna amount too much. I think it bodes better for "Die from a Broken Heart" to be a hit with "Friends Don't" peaking higher on the charts before it, even if it didn't get the album out and sold poorly during its run. It got their foot back in the door with country radio by making it into the top 40 and even if it ultimately misses the top 30, I think it looks better for them at radio than if the label had just given up on this when it was struggling in the 40s. It's the same reason why labels try their best to hit #1 with every release nowadays that makes it as high as top 10, even when to most people it doesn't matter if a song hits #1 or if it peaks at say, #3 or 4, because they can leverage "our last song hit #1" with stations which looks better than a song that didn't go all the way. The fact that it's made it as high as #33 is actually pretty good because for awhile it didn't look like it would make it out of the 40s, and I think that'll help them in the eyes of radio. I think that's the reason they've stuck with it, and even with consumer interest in "Die from a Broken Heart," it will surely take several months for that one to get going on the charts as well if it is to ultimately turn into a hit because that's how country radio operates and the period of November-February isn't the best time to launch a new single for an artist in their position, so I think it's for the best that they held off and I feel like a late March release would be pretty ideal for it. I think spending 20 to 25 weeks to peak in the 40s would have the same impact as taking over 30 weeks to hit the Top 30 or just come up short. Mainly because from basically the Top 25 on down radio probably looks as the same. Also making the Top 30 holds a lot less weight with radio than the whole #1 thing, making #1 is a huge brag, Top 30 is pulling whatever you can to help the following single in my eyes and I doubt radio really will have it change much. A song peaking at #28 or #33 probably has the same amount of interest with radio because at the end of the day both were flops. A song that is actively losing the label money and radio has never really been on board with, just seems like a waste to keep alive and promote for almost a full year.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 18, 2019 22:51:19 GMT -5
I think it bodes better for "Die from a Broken Heart" to be a hit with "Friends Don't" peaking higher on the charts before it, even if it didn't get the album out and sold poorly during its run. It got their foot back in the door with country radio by making it into the top 40 and even if it ultimately misses the top 30, I think it looks better for them at radio than if the label had just given up on this when it was struggling in the 40s. It's the same reason why labels try their best to hit #1 with every release nowadays that makes it as high as top 10, even when to most people it doesn't matter if a song hits #1 or if it peaks at say, #3 or 4, because they can leverage "our last song hit #1" with stations which looks better than a song that didn't go all the way. The fact that it's made it as high as #33 is actually pretty good because for awhile it didn't look like it would make it out of the 40s, and I think that'll help them in the eyes of radio. I think that's the reason they've stuck with it, and even with consumer interest in "Die from a Broken Heart," it will surely take several months for that one to get going on the charts as well if it is to ultimately turn into a hit because that's how country radio operates and the period of November-February isn't the best time to launch a new single for an artist in their position, so I think it's for the best that they held off and I feel like a late March release would be pretty ideal for it. I think spending 20 to 25 weeks to peak in the 40s would have the same impact as taking over 30 weeks to hit the Top 30 or just come up short. Mainly because from basically the Top 25 on down radio probably looks as the same. Also making the Top 30 holds a lot less weight with radio than the whole #1 thing, making #1 is a huge brag, Top 30 is pulling whatever you can to help the following single in my eyes and I doubt radio really will have it change much. A song peaking at #28 or #33 probably has the same amount of interest with radio because at the end of the day both were flops. A song that is actively losing the label money and radio has never really been on board with, just seems like a waste to keep alive and promote for almost a full year. Well if they dropped this 4 months ago and put out "Die from a Broken Heart" earlier instead, it probably would've just gotten buried by all the new releases like what's happening to Lauren Alaina right now, so I still think trying to get "Friends Don't" a little higher on the charts first and then holding off on releasing the follow-up for when it might have less competition wasn't a bad idea.
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Post by raylatch98 on Feb 18, 2019 23:05:12 GMT -5
I think spending 20 to 25 weeks to peak in the 40s would have the same impact as taking over 30 weeks to hit the Top 30 or just come up short. Mainly because from basically the Top 25 on down radio probably looks as the same. Also making the Top 30 holds a lot less weight with radio than the whole #1 thing, making #1 is a huge brag, Top 30 is pulling whatever you can to help the following single in my eyes and I doubt radio really will have it change much. A song peaking at #28 or #33 probably has the same amount of interest with radio because at the end of the day both were flops. A song that is actively losing the label money and radio has never really been on board with, just seems like a waste to keep alive and promote for almost a full year. Well if they dropped this 4 months ago and put out "Die from a Broken Heart" earlier instead, it probably would've just gotten buried by all the new releases like what's happening to Lauren Alaina right now, so I still think trying to get "Friends Don't" a little higher on the charts first and then holding off on releasing the follow-up for when it might have less competition wasn't a bad idea. I disagree. I think "Die From a Broken Heart" would be performing at least similarly to how "Closer to You" by Carly Pearce is. I think it would've been one of the movers and shakers of the chart and not get left behind.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 18, 2019 23:14:03 GMT -5
Well if they dropped this 4 months ago and put out "Die from a Broken Heart" earlier instead, it probably would've just gotten buried by all the new releases like what's happening to Lauren Alaina right now, so I still think trying to get "Friends Don't" a little higher on the charts first and then holding off on releasing the follow-up for when it might have less competition wasn't a bad idea. I disagree. I think "Die From a Broken Heart" would be performing at least similarly to how "Closer to You" by Carly Pearce is. I think it would've been one of the movers and shakers of the chart and not get left behind. "Closer to You" is both radio friendly and sung by one of the few female artists country radio actually has some sustained interest in right now, so I don't think the comparison with that one makes any sense at all. Maddie & Tae had zero momentum going into the release of this single and now that they have a little (since it made it into the top 40) and with "Die from a Broken Heart" connecting with consumers, it might take off if/once its released, but it will absolutely be another slow climb for them either way because country radio definitely ain't going to let a song like that go up the charts quickly. I'm not even fully convinced that one will be a big hit for them because radio doesn't put that much stock into how well songs are selling. I think that it's the right move to try it, but radio cares more about songs being catchy and uptempo, not polarizing, and being sung by male artists, so DFABH isn't the kind of song they'd be in a hurry to convert. It's a big risk, big reward type of song if there ever was one.
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Post by travelrocks24 on Feb 19, 2019 6:20:47 GMT -5
It would be interesting to compare the sales of this song and "Die From a Broken Heart".
Maddie and Tae hopefully will gain new fans when they open for Carrie later this year.
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Post by bigranger on Feb 28, 2019 9:28:24 GMT -5
new song "Tourist in This Town" y'all oh my god
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Post by bboat11 on Mar 1, 2019 1:36:57 GMT -5
OMG scrap everything else, this is the best bet at a hit out of all three songs we've heard from their new album!!
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Post by carriekins on Mar 1, 2019 8:28:14 GMT -5
Ohhhh I love these girls so much. That is a fantastic song - why wasn't that the lead??!?! Unless it wasn't ready but man. I cannot see how that wouldn't do well at radio.
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Post by toomuchboy on Mar 1, 2019 12:58:45 GMT -5
When I first heard "Friends Don't," I prepared myself for a sophomore slump like so many artists who have great debuts and then bland follow-ups. Now that we know there's not one, but two other great songs from this album, I realize they just screwed up with their single choices here.
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Post by d3vin44 on Mar 1, 2019 13:41:43 GMT -5
Out of the 3 songs, I still like "Friends Don't" the best. I don't understand all of the disappointment from the pulse community. I think it is great and radio sucks for not jumping on it. :)
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Post by jab820 on Mar 1, 2019 14:49:26 GMT -5
Even though this song had a really rough start getting anywhere near the top 40, now that it's finally starting to make moves, I can see them going for a top 25 peak then moving right along. I really like this new song, but it would be a mistake to ignore the interest that "Die From A Broken Heart" is still managing to draw. I am here for Maddie & Tae's comeback...it just needs to get moving. Also the Carrie tour will help.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 1, 2019 15:00:12 GMT -5
I like the new song and it's one of the poppiest things they've put out to date, but I still think after the initial response to "Die from a Broken Heart" that it would be a shame to sit on that one and not at least try it as a single, even if it's risky. "Tourist in This Town" sounds like a hit, though a different side of the coin from that one (being poppy and with more tempo compared to the slow and neo-trad 'Broken Heart').
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Post by tryexp on Mar 1, 2019 15:23:09 GMT -5
I love Tourist in This Town but I think radio won't play it either. Fingers crossed they prove me wrong.
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Post by raylatch98 on Mar 17, 2019 20:22:51 GMT -5
I think "Friends Don't" has just about hit the end of the road here. Maddie & Tae were pretty flat in terms of audience gains this week, but they lost over 100 spins the past 7 days and had both Carly Pearce and Rascal Flatts pass them.
There is at least an outside chance this goes recurrent tomorrow on Billboard, just due to how big the spins lost were.
I do hope the label cuts ties at this point as this doesn't seem to have the strength to even make the Top 30 on either chart at this point (#34 this week on Mediabase and #37 on Billboard this past week), so besides trying to prevent the bleeding and keep this song at the airplay level it's at, I don't see much benefit to keeping it around.
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Post by raylatch98 on Mar 18, 2019 19:37:21 GMT -5
Sorry for the double post.
Turns out I should have had this song as the one going recurrent on Billboard and not Carrie Underwood, as "Love Wins" stays and "Friends Don't" goes recurrent this week. I do think this should indicate to the label that there is not anything left in this song to push.
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Post by jab820 on Apr 13, 2019 18:22:16 GMT -5
Any word on the next radio single? "Die From A Broken Heart" is falling down the iTunes chart. Not that that really matters, but interesting to watch it fall around the same time "Friends Don't" falls off the radio chart.
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Post by countryisking on Apr 13, 2019 20:45:20 GMT -5
Any word on the next radio single? "Die From A Broken Heart" is falling down the iTunes chart. Not that that really matters, but interesting to watch it fall around the same time "Friends Don't" falls off the radio chart. Likely because The Highway was playing it pretty heavily and then they stopped when "Tourist in this Town" came out. It's hard to say what single they'll go with next but they should have stopped pushing "Friends Don't" when they saw it wasn't connecting while "Die From a Broken Heart" was simultaenously connecting pretty well.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 13, 2019 20:47:22 GMT -5
Yeah with "Die From a Broken Heart" freefalling on iTunes it feels like Maddie & Tae are kind of back to square one.
I want them to succeed but I am not gonna lie, none of the songs released since the label change have interested me as much as their debut album did.
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Post by Wackadoodle on Apr 13, 2019 21:01:21 GMT -5
Honestly, it seems like they were a fad with a particular message that a corporate executive agreed with, so they got picked up again so the corporation could try to push that message further, but it just didn't work.
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