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Post by Mayman on Aug 15, 2018 22:09:03 GMT -5
Sis is doing a bundle for a $5 poster + free album download + a free 3 month of Tidal for the next two days. Nothing will ever beat Gaga selling BTW for $.99 or Taylor Swift partnering up with Papa John's In retrospect that was a terrible idea seeing all the hot water his ass is stewing in. Gaga didn't do that, Amazon did. If we put it that way, we'll have to say Taylor Swift did it too - she put Speak Now and Red down to $3.99 and Amazon offered a $3 coupon at the same time. I'm pretty sure Amazon didn't price someone else's product different than the company/label set it to be. That's not how it works.
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Post by His Holiness on Aug 15, 2018 22:15:08 GMT -5
Gaga didn't do that, Amazon did. If we put it that way, we'll have to say Taylor Swift did it too - she put Speak Now and Red down to $3.99 and Amazon offered a $3 coupon at the same time. I'm pretty sure Amazon didn't price someone else's product different than the company/label set it to be. That's not how it works. Well, you are wrong. "Lady Gaga's label and management have stated that they were not alerted to or involved in Amazon's promotion." www.billboard.com/articles/news/471012/lady-gagas-born-this-way-again-on-sale-at-amazon-for-99-centsAnd BTW, it's literally how things work. Companies can provide discounts to stores to encourage a discount at retail, they can mandate a retail price by threatening not to supply the product all together, but ultimately, it's the retail seller's decision.
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Post by Mayman on Aug 15, 2018 22:30:21 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Amazon didn't price someone else's product different than the company/label set it to be. That's not how it works. Well, you are wrong. "Lady Gaga's label and management have stated that they were not alerted to or involved in Amazon's promotion." www.billboard.com/articles/news/471012/lady-gagas-born-this-way-again-on-sale-at-amazon-for-99-centsAnd BTW, it's literally how things work. Companies can provide discounts to stores to encourage a discount at retail, they can mandate a retail price by threatening not to supply the product all together, but ultimately, it's the retail seller's decision. Was the discount on the digital version or the CD?
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Post by His Holiness on Aug 15, 2018 23:00:15 GMT -5
Was the discount on the digital version or the CD? Digital.
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Post by Mayman on Aug 15, 2018 23:01:46 GMT -5
Was the discount on the digital version or the CD? Digital. Oh okay, that makes more sense.
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Post by Janhova's Witness on Aug 16, 2018 1:58:56 GMT -5
Tripped reddy who is this one? Helen's son. HELLOO ppl don't you know your 70s pop stars
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Post by shayonce on Aug 16, 2018 3:47:54 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Amazon didn't price someone else's product different than the company/label set it to be. That's not how it works. Well, you are wrong. "Lady Gaga's label and management have stated that they were not alerted to or involved in Amazon's promotion." www.billboard.com/articles/news/471012/lady-gagas-born-this-way-again-on-sale-at-amazon-for-99-centsAnd BTW, it's literally how things work. Companies can provide discounts to stores to encourage a discount at retail, they can mandate a retail price by threatening not to supply the product all together, but ultimately, it's the retail seller's decision. Lady Gaga's manager has denied any involvement with the promotion, leading some outlets to speculate that Amazon paid a wholesale price of $8.39 for Born This Way (based on the fact that Apple's iTunes is selling the album for $11.99 per album and keeps 30% of sticker price). But a source informs me that Amazon negotiated with Interscope/Universal to pay a wholesale price of $7. That means the retailer is taking a somewhat smaller hit of about $6 per album sold. www.forbes.com/sites/zackomalleygreenburg/2011/05/26/why-amazon-will-gain-from-loss-on-lady-gagas-born-this-way/#56cad7916350
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Post by shayonce on Aug 16, 2018 3:51:19 GMT -5
so...there was 6 hours of tidal party. you could use nicki's $5 bundle code "queen" to every digital album in tidal. people use it on other artists, $100 box set. lol obviously this won't be counted for chart tho.
anyone know how merch bundle sales are counted? like.. no redeem needed? just whole bundle sales from artist shop counted? I'm confused as nicki's $5 bundle album was just queen code everyone can redeem in tidal.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Aug 16, 2018 6:16:59 GMT -5
Gaga didn't do that, Amazon did. If we put it that way, we'll have to say Taylor Swift did it too - she put Speak Now and Red down to $3.99 and Amazon offered a $3 coupon at the same time. I'm pretty sure Amazon didn't price someone else's product different than the company/label set it to be. That's not how it works. What? That's what retailers do to make profits? In this case, they accepted the loss of potential revenue with a big-name release to bring more customers in.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Aug 16, 2018 6:41:53 GMT -5
Amazon willingly took a loss on BTW to bring customers into their cloud music storage service. There's nothing nefarious about that.
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Post by ILLUSION on Aug 16, 2018 9:42:06 GMT -5
Wait...so are ALLL the FEFE streams being counted towards Queen or only the version added to the "bonus track version" on Apple MuMu, Spotify, etc..? Cus that article seems to suggest all? It mentions it being in the Top 5 on both platforms.
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Post by Choco on Aug 16, 2018 12:21:04 GMT -5
I mean they count stuff like Finesse's remix for 24k Magic even when it was not actually on the album so I'm sure all the Fefe streams will count too.
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Post by ILLUSION on Aug 16, 2018 12:28:56 GMT -5
Jeez if she doesn't debut at #1 then, how embarrassing. How would that work though? Would they count ALL of FEFE's streams from this tracking week or only the streams after they released the "special edition" version of the album?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 13:13:11 GMT -5
There's no way she WON'T be #1 honestly. Someone did the calculations with "Fefe" added and they had her SPS tally at 190-210k.
Billboard will probably change the rules after this week though, with the amped up antics from both sides.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Aug 16, 2018 13:22:38 GMT -5
There's no way she WON'T be #1 honestly. Someone did the calculations with "Fefe" added and they had her SPS tally at 190-210k. Billboard will probably change the rules after this week though, with the amped up antics from both sides. The merch bundles they will keep because that is a legitimate sale just like a ticket bundle. The only stipulation that I can see them imposing is a dollar limit because that $5 bundle Nicki was selling was sketchy. Now the adding of songs after the release and in the middle of the current sales week is where I see them drawing the line since that is clearly a tactic to boost album sales.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Aug 16, 2018 14:03:12 GMT -5
Billboard will probably change the rules after this week though, with the amped up antics from both sides. Will they though? There will always be loopholes for the labels to exploit. They've been doing the same things for 50 years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 14:14:04 GMT -5
How we know it ain't #1? Is something released? Or is this a premature opinion in the thread title
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Post by ddlz on Aug 16, 2018 14:18:09 GMT -5
Billboard won't do shit. Even HDD is cheering for bundles and other gimmicks.
This is just the beginning. It will get much worse.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Aug 16, 2018 14:20:58 GMT -5
How we know it ain't #1? Is something released? Or is this a premature opinion in the thread title No. Based on HITS sales figures from Tuesday: hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=3130091. Travis Scott (Cactus Jack/Grand Hustle/Epic) 155-165k Total, 40-50k Albums 2. *Nicki Minaj (YMCMB/Republic) 145-155k, 56-61k
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Post by Choco on Aug 16, 2018 14:27:54 GMT -5
tbh I want her to take #2 just for the meltdowns. She will probably post a lot of dumbness on Twitter if she doesn't get #1.
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Post by slw84 on Aug 16, 2018 14:35:57 GMT -5
There's no way she WON'T be #1 honestly. Someone did the calculations with "Fefe" added and they had her SPS tally at 190-210k. Billboard will probably change the rules after this week though, with the amped up antics from both sides. they might do what they did to Blackout and announce a change in rules the day of or day before. but I think the bundles are going to secure Nicki's #1
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Post by Choco on Aug 16, 2018 14:41:24 GMT -5
To be fair, not allowing The Eagles to chart because it was a Walmart exclusive, despite a difference of over 420k copies made the charts look like a joke and the rule change was fair IMO.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Aug 16, 2018 14:58:50 GMT -5
It is honestly not the end of the world missing, #1. BUT, I can only speak from my views.
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Post by ILLUSION on Aug 16, 2018 15:01:06 GMT -5
It is honestly not the end of the world missing, #1. BUT, I can only speak from my views. It really isn't, especially considering her last project opened at #2, but now after all this adding songs crap, etc... it looks way worse
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Post by thegreatdivine on Aug 16, 2018 15:14:51 GMT -5
Nicki and her team seem to have pulled all the stops to get her album a #1 debut. There's a bus in New York right now selling CDs of her album. I hope it works out. People have been mocking her all week on social media and a #2 debut will just fan that flame.
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Post by korbel16 on Aug 16, 2018 15:36:49 GMT -5
Her adding fefe to the album, using ticket bundles, and now selling merch will honestly be really funny if she does debut at 2. All these stops girl and u stay at #2 :/ . This kind of stuff manages to give you a #1 debut and if it doesn’t work then ILL LAUGH OUT LOUD LMAOOO trolls will rememebr this for ages
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2018 15:43:56 GMT -5
Nicki and her team seem to have pulled all the stops to get her album a #1 debut. There's a bus in New York right now selling CDs of her album. I hope it works out. People have been mocking her all week on social media and a #2 debut will just fan that flame.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Aug 16, 2018 15:45:44 GMT -5
It is honestly not the end of the world missing, #1. BUT, I can only speak from my views. It really isn't, especially considering her last project opened at #2, but now after all this adding songs crap, etc... it looks way worse Others add songs too, and I agree, she could've added more promo before this whole week to make it not seem rushed.
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Post by korbel16 on Aug 16, 2018 15:46:48 GMT -5
Guys.. i cant this is the messiest Race for number 1 this year lmfao (the tickets include his album)
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Post by TakeMe on Aug 16, 2018 16:15:14 GMT -5
tbh I want her to take #2 just for the meltdowns. She will probably post a lot of dumbness on Twitter if she doesn't get #1. LMFAOOOO! So basically we’ll just be getting a part two to the crap she’s already been posting on social media so far this week! *Grabs popcorn*
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