Billboard Hot 100: 11/03/18

[Nuestro Planeta]

Taki Taki top 10 next week!

[lazer]

Hopefully GLY won't be #1 next week or two.

[Gary]

Girls Like You 21 weeks in the top 10 - all in the top 5

The last 12 either at #2 or #1

With all the talk about the 6 weeks of blocking rap songs at #2 - it too was at #2 for 6 weeks, itself blocked by a rap song

[rimetm]

Oct 29, 2018 13:10:11 GMT -5 Codex said:

Girls Like You blocking all these horrible songs from spending 1 week each at #1 makes up for 30 weeks of Drake. The charts are finally exciting again.

In what world is an incumbent reliably blocking significant change from happening exciting? That's like the exact opposite of exciting.

We've had oodles of top 10 debuts and big climbs this whole year. There's no "finally" about that part, so you can only be talking about the #1, in which case, back to paragraph 1 there.

[Gary]

With the recent #2 debuts based on high profile streaming albums that drop like a rock the next week, the next long standing record we should see drop in the next year or so is the biggest fall from #1 which has stood since 1974

[Gary]

Zeze holds at #1 for streaming at 42.2

[deepston]

Happy Bastille could get a #1 in the future, sad that it is with this bland ass song.

Also what the hell is a Zeze?

[rockgolf]

But regardless, Mona Lisa and Killshot going #1 would have been the 2018 equivalent of Crack a Bottle. Anyone remember that song? Yet it’s “a number one”, and probably a stronger #1 than ZEZE would have been.

So was Incomplete by Sisqo. Primarily because Thong Song was on the other side of the single.

[Choco]

LMAO @ "diversity".

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving.

[Zach]

Oct 29, 2018 13:42:54 GMT -5 Codex said:

Oct 29, 2018 13:34:18 GMT -5 rimetm said:

In what world is an incumbent reliably blocking significant change from happening exciting? That's like the exact opposite of exciting.

We've had oodles of top 10 debuts and big climbs this whole year. There's no "finally" about that part, so you can only be talking about the #1, in which case, back to paragraph 1 there.

With Drake, we knew that there’s no competition, he’ll block everything with a huge margin. Here, every week is a mystery where the difference is barely a couple points. That’s the exciting part. But regardless, Mona Lisa and Killshot going #1 would have been the 2018 equivalent of Crack a Bottle. Anyone remember that song? Yet it’s “a number one”, and probably a stronger #1 than ZEZE would have been. If they really are deserving #1s, then they’ll gain a bit of Urban airplay and steady streams to snatch the spot later. Otherwise, they clearly didn’t “deserve it” anyway.

How in God's name can a song which gets the most chart points in a week and got No. 1 in that week NOT be deserving of the No. 1 placement in that particular week? I don't care who remembers the song. I don't care how far the song falls the next week. I don't care how much the song manages to perform in the long-term. How can the most popular song in a week not deserve No. 1?

I don't know why I still get annoyed when people say this though...

[amore]

Oct 29, 2018 13:51:00 GMT -5 Zach said:

Oct 29, 2018 13:42:54 GMT -5 Codex said:

With Drake, we knew that there’s no competition, he’ll block everything with a huge margin. Here, every week is a mystery where the difference is barely a couple points. That’s the exciting part. But regardless, Mona Lisa and Killshot going #1 would have been the 2018 equivalent of Crack a Bottle. Anyone remember that song? Yet it’s “a number one”, and probably a stronger #1 than ZEZE would have been. If they really are deserving #1s, then they’ll gain a bit of Urban airplay and steady streams to snatch the spot later. Otherwise, they clearly didn’t “deserve it” anyway.

How in God's name can a song which gets the most chart points in a week and got No. 1 in that week NOT be deserving of the No. 1 placement in that particular week? I don't care who remembers the song. I don't care how far the song falls the next week. I don't care how much the song manages to perform in the long-term. How can the most popular song in a week not deserve No. 1?

I don't know why I still get annoyed when people say this though...

OKAY and GLY is the most popular song of the week, so it deserved #1. Also we are just saying that it isn't really fair that a high profile album( which only lasts 1 week ) can dethrone a song that has worked its way to the top. GLY has been through hell lol. I'm not mad at it being #1. It survived Drake.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Oct 29, 2018 13:08:18 GMT -5 Gary said:

This forum has weeks and weeks of Girls Like You is bad and we need to bring back the rap

(recall, Girls Like You ended a record streak at #1 for rap)

However, the current 'first lady' of the rap world is featured on the song

True!

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Oct 29, 2018 13:34:18 GMT -5 rimetm said:

Oct 29, 2018 13:10:11 GMT -5 Codex said:

Girls Like You blocking all these horrible songs from spending 1 week each at #1 makes up for 30 weeks of Drake. The charts are finally exciting again.

In what world is an incumbent reliably blocking significant change from happening exciting? That's like the exact opposite of exciting.

We've had oodles of top 10 debuts and big climbs this whole year. There's no "finally" about that part, so you can only be talking about the #1, in which case, back to paragraph 1 there.

Lengthy number ones can be exciting too. See when Despacito was close to breaking the all-time record. Even when it just tied it, it was exciting. Having a constant rotation of number ones gets boring after a while too. The issue with this year’s charts is less about the chart activity and more about the types of songs and the reasoning behind their chart activity. 2018 might just be the most dull year for the chart despite being relatively active with movement.

[Zach]

Oct 29, 2018 13:54:10 GMT -5 amore said:

Oct 29, 2018 13:51:00 GMT -5 Zach said:

How in God's name can a song which gets the most chart points in a week and got No. 1 in that week NOT be deserving of the No. 1 placement in that particular week? I don't care who remembers the song. I don't care how far the song falls the next week. I don't care how much the song manages to perform in the long-term. How can the most popular song in a week not deserve No. 1?

I don't know why I still get annoyed when people say this though...

OKAY and GLY is the most popular song of the week, so it deserved #1. Also we are just saying that it isn't really fair that a high profile album( which only lasts 1 week ) can dethrone a song that has worked its way to the top. GLY has been through hell lol. I'm not mad at it being #1. It survived Drake.

My comment had nothing to do with Girls Like You or Sicko Mode. The former is obviously deserving of No. 1, though I would have liked to see Sicko Mode reach the top.

Also, a song "working its way to the top" (whatever that means) doesn't make it any more deserving of No. 1 than a song from a high profile album which is the most popular song in a week and therefore crashes onto the chart at the summit.

[jebsib]

People have a fixed idea in their mind on how a #1 song should "feel" and it dates back to heavy airplay saturation eras.

So if a #1 song is played every 30 seconds on multiple formats for weeks and everyone's buying the equivalent album and it's got a lot of media attention, the song 'feels' different from a #1 song which is a heavily streamed track by a very narrow demographic of fans during a 7 day period.

This has been going on for more than 20 years. I recall early internet posters grumbling that with a #62 airplay peak, 2Pac's "How Do U Want It" didn't feel like a #1 song.

[amore]

Oct 29, 2018 13:59:41 GMT -5 Zach said:

Oct 29, 2018 13:54:10 GMT -5 amore said:

OKAY and GLY is the most popular song of the week, so it deserved #1. Also we are just saying that it isn't really fair that a high profile album( which only lasts 1 week ) can dethrone a song that has worked its way to the top. GLY has been through hell lol. I'm not mad at it being #1. It survived Drake.

My comment had nothing to do with Girls Like You or Sicko Mode. The former is obviously deserving of No. 1, though I would have liked to see Sicko Mode reach the top.

Also, a song "working its way to the top" (whatever that means) doesn't make it any more deserving of No. 1 than a song from a high profile album which is the most popular song in a week and therefore crashes onto the chart at the summit.

I never said what i was saying was objective. It was just my opinion. Feel free to disagree. Also GLY worked its way to the top let's be clear. It was behind I like it at first. Then Drakes Scorpion drops and it survived that. IMF took over for 10+ weeks( GLY spend 6 weeks behind it ). I wasn't even mad that GLY passed IMF because it really deserved it. GLY DID THAT. Name another more Iconic chart run.

[Zach]

Oct 29, 2018 14:01:30 GMT -5 Codex said:

Oct 29, 2018 13:51:00 GMT -5 Zach said:

How in God's name can a song which gets the most chart points in a week and got No. 1 in that week NOT be deserving of the No. 1 placement in that particular week? I don't care who remembers the song. I don't care how far the song falls the next week. I don't care how much the song manages to perform in the long-term. How can the most popular song in a week not deserve No. 1?

I don't know why I still get annoyed when people say this though...

I put it in quotations. Clearly if Maroon 5 had the most points, they “deserve” the #1. If someone feels that one of the blocked songs “deserves” a #1 peak, then it’ll get it later. If it doesn’t reach #1 on any week during their chart run with such little competition, then it’s safe to say that it does not “deserve” a #1 peak. It wouldn’t have even been top 5 in most weeks... Fans should be thanking their lucky stars that these songs even got to #2

My apologizes. I misinterpreted the first comment I responded to. I'm sorry, every time I read someone speaking about a song "deserving" or "not deserving" No. 1, I instantly slide into an unstoppable rage and on this occasion I didn't even read your comment properly before blurting out my response. Also amore apologies to you as well.

Reminds me of the meltdowns when Love the Way You Lie debuted at No. 2. I mean it eventually reached No. 1 but the meltdowns were funny when it didn't debut atop the chart.

[Deleted]

Without Me coming for top 10, probably as soon as next week. Slay a little Ashley!

[Choco]

Oct 29, 2018 13:57:49 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

2018 might just be the most dull year for the chart despite being relatively active with movement.

THIS! Anyone can do a rap album and get at least a couple top 10 debuts with no effort. Radio being so slow helped make the songs have lengthier runs around the top spots but now with it having a limited amount of power over the charts, and streaming audiences moving on much faster from the "album track of the week", top 10 debuts are pretty common and boring.


During iTunes' peak, even the frontloaded stuff like "Hold It Against Me" and "3" were able to eventually last a few more weeks on the chart thanks to radio. Stuff like "Mona Lisa" though... even "Nonstop" still feels like a huge non-event considering it's #2 peak, and it has never approached that amount of success after it's single release.

[Gary]

Oct 29, 2018 14:00:56 GMT -5 jebsib said:

People have a fixed idea in their mind on how a #1 song should "feel" and it dates back to heavy airplay saturation eras.

So if a #1 song is played every 30 seconds on multiple formats for weeks and everyone's buying the equivalent album and it's got a lot of media attention, the song 'feels' different from a #1 song which is a heavily streamed track by a very narrow demographic of fans during a 7 day period.

This has been going on for more than 20 years. I recall early internet posters grumbling that with a #62 airplay peak, 2Pac's "How Do U Want It" didn't feel like a #1 song.

A song that "feels" like #1 is based on nothing but opinion anyway.

Everyone has a different one.

In the end #1 really just represents what others like in music, not necessarily what a specific person likes.

Sometimes not the same song

[Gary]

Oct 29, 2018 13:57:49 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Oct 29, 2018 13:34:18 GMT -5 rimetm said:

In what world is an incumbent reliably blocking significant change from happening exciting? That's like the exact opposite of exciting.

We've had oodles of top 10 debuts and big climbs this whole year. There's no "finally" about that part, so you can only be talking about the #1, in which case, back to paragraph 1 there.

Lengthy number ones can be exciting too. See when Despacito was close to breaking the all-time record. Even when it just tied it, it was exciting. Having a constant rotation of number ones gets boring after a while too. The issue with this year’s charts is less about the chart activity and more about the types of songs and the reasoning behind their chart activity. 2018 might just be the most dull year for the chart despite being relatively active with movement.

If we go by just this forum

2018 is the biggest year ever.  Never before have Hot 100 threads hit 15-16 pages on a regular basis before the chart even comes out

Lots of stuff to discuss/chat/whine about I guess

[rockgolf]

Based on my own year-end calculated predictions in this post, even staying at #1 this week won't be enough to move Girls Like You up the year-end chart, but even if it falls to #2 on next week's chart, it will climb from over both Nice For What and possibly I Like It (depending how far ILI drifts down). Similarly, there's enough space between In My Feelings and both Lucid Dreams and Better Now for them to still be held off climbing for another week or two. But both will probably pass IMF before the year-end cutoff, which is after only 3 more charts.


 

[Gary]

Oct 29, 2018 14:10:22 GMT -5 rockgolf said:

x

A good album but this one is better


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[amore]

Oct 29, 2018 14:06:59 GMT -5 Choco said:

Oct 29, 2018 13:57:49 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

2018 might just be the most dull year for the chart despite being relatively active with movement.

THIS! Anyone can do a rap album and get at least a couple top 10 debuts with no effort. Radio being so slow helped make the songs have lengthier runs around the top spots but now with it having a limited amount of power over the charts, and streaming audiences moving on much faster from the "album track of the week", top 10 debuts are pretty common and boring.


During iTunes' peak, even the frontloaded stuff like "Hold It Against Me" and "3" were able to eventually last a few more weeks on the chart thanks to radio. Stuff like "Mona Lisa" though... even "Nonstop" still feels like a huge non-event considering it's #2 peak, and it has never approached that amount of success after it's single release.

True a song going top 10 debut isn't that impressive because it usually falls out a week later. Like Mona Lisa didn't survive at all. It is more impressive if the top 10 debut stays there for 3+ weeks.

[rockgolf]

Oct 29, 2018 14:14:45 GMT -5 Gary said:

Oct 29, 2018 14:10:22 GMT -5 rockgolf said:

x

A good album but this one is better


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÷ > × !

[deepston]

Oct 29, 2018 14:00:56 GMT -5 jebsib said:

People have a fixed idea in their mind on how a #1 song should "feel" and it dates back to heavy airplay saturation eras.

So if a #1 song is played every 30 seconds on multiple formats for weeks and everyone's buying the equivalent album and it's got a lot of media attention, the song 'feels' different from a #1 song which is a heavily streamed track by a very narrow demographic of fans during a 7 day period.

This has been going on for more than 20 years. I recall early internet posters grumbling that with a #62 airplay peak, 2Pac's "How Do U Want It" didn't feel like a #1 song.

Obviously if we compare 2 songs, one that was everywhere for a ton of time and another that was heavily streamed for a 7 day period, the second one won't feel like a #1.

[Gary]

Or something that is streamed heavily but not played on the radio won't "feel" like a #1 to those who didn't stream it

[atg]

I hope in 2019 we have better music in the mainstream and that streaming/radio gets more balanced out so we don’t get nearly as many album bombs and random ass singles (*cough* ‘Mo Bamba’) just cause of one factor. Leave sales outta the question cause it’s basically dead at this point.

[RainMan94]

Are "We Belong Together" and "Girls Like You" tied for second in songs that have blocked the most songs that peaked at #2? I believe "(Everything I Do) I Do It for You" is still the leader, blocking five songs from #1 but I'm not sure if I'm forgetting any other songs as well.

[tanooki]

Anyone know where Money debuted?