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Post by Naos on Feb 3, 2020 18:20:05 GMT -5
A lot of us like music for the lyrics. So when someone is singing in another language that you don't know then some of us just have no interest. If you got a problem with that then you're the problem. I always take effort to translate or look for translations if it's in another language. Music is a performative act, and I believe in most cases, knowing what it said is important. But it might be the way Green said it that was a problem, maybe.
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Post by HeyHeyHey on Feb 3, 2020 18:33:29 GMT -5
Seems like people are really upset about his tweet. Part of me almost sees this as a reason why he may not become one of the big names. He seems kinda set in his ways and willing to speak his mind. If he has some controversial takes and it so willing to share, he may turn off fans or even people in the industry.
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Post by justin5545 on Feb 3, 2020 18:48:51 GMT -5
A lot of us like music for the lyrics. So when someone is singing in another language that you don't know then some of us just have no interest. If you got a problem with that then you're the problem. Sigh. There are better ways to react than to make a joke of it, or whatever it is Riley was trying to do. Why not go and look up a translation of the lyrics? Why not highlight the parts you do like? Or why not just stay silent? And honestly, if you have no interest in other cultures, that does say something about you. there's a difference between not knowing Spanish and not being interested in other cultures.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 3, 2020 19:48:25 GMT -5
Sigh. There are better ways to react than to make a joke of it, or whatever it is Riley was trying to do. Why not go and look up a translation of the lyrics? Why not highlight the parts you do like? Or why not just stay silent? And honestly, if you have no interest in other cultures, that does say something about you. there's a difference between not knowing Spanish and not being interested in other cultures. Okay well the language breakdown on the halftime show was like 25% Spanish and 75% English so these comments are literally head-scratching. Almost all of JLO's set was in English except for the J. Balvin feature and at least half of Shakira's set was completely in English as well. Riley's comment was insensitive and childish, as are the ones defending him and downplaying his tweet. It's amazing how fragile white people get when they hear the faintest use of another language that they don't understand.
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Post by vamp111 on Feb 3, 2020 20:08:45 GMT -5
I didn't think his tweet was a big deal and I'm glad he is sticking to his ways and not deleting the tweet. The way some people are reacting is a perfect example of why the whole "woke cancel" culture is getting ridiculous.
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Post by vamp111 on Feb 3, 2020 20:12:00 GMT -5
Seems like people are really upset about his tweet. Part of me almost sees this as a reason why he may not become one of the big names. He seems kinda set in his ways and willing to speak his mind. If he has some controversial takes and it so willing to share, he may turn off fans or even people in the industry. But is the tweet really picking up any steam besides Twitter and obviously here? It doesn't look like anywhere else has picked up the story.
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Post by justin5545 on Feb 3, 2020 20:13:54 GMT -5
there's a difference between not knowing Spanish and not being interested in other cultures. Okay well the language breakdown on the halftime show was like 25% Spanish and 75% English so these comments are literally head-scratching. Almost all of JLO's set was in English except for the J. Balvin feature and at least half of Shakira's set was completely in English as well. Riley's comment was insensitive and childish, as are the ones defending him and downplaying his tweet. It's amazing how fragile white people get when they hear the faintest use of another language that they don't understand. Yeah us white people are so fragile...we aren't the ones crying over his tweet.
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Post by thewp on Feb 3, 2020 20:14:18 GMT -5
I didn't think his tweet was a big deal and I'm glad he is sticking to his ways and not deleting the tweet. The way some people are reacting is a perfect example of why the whole "woke cancel" culture is getting ridiculous. He's... blocking his own fans. People who state they've just been to his shows. That's f'in stupid regardless of how bigoted he wants to be.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 3, 2020 20:24:50 GMT -5
we aren't the ones crying over his tweet. No they're the ones crying because a few minutes out of the 14 minute halftime show wasn't delivered in English
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Post by ladyđfan on Feb 3, 2020 20:29:32 GMT -5
there's a difference between not knowing Spanish and not being interested in other cultures. Okay well the language breakdown on the halftime show was like 25% Spanish and 75% English so these comments are literally head-scratching. Almost all of JLO's set was in English except for the J. Balvin feature and at least half of Shakira's set was completely in English as well. Riley's comment was insensitive and childish, as are the ones defending him and downplaying his tweet. It's amazing how fragile white people get when they hear the faintest use of another language that they don't understand. I want to clarify that I gave him the benefit of the doubt because the tweet seemed like it was just a stupid joke, but after seeing his reaction to the controversy (blocking people instead of trying to figure out why people were mad at him) I think there was a deeper, racist sentiment. I suppose I should be a bit more skeptical...
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Post by country11 on Feb 3, 2020 21:13:00 GMT -5
I donât really see the problem with his tweet other than a bunch of people jumping on it and having heated reactions. A lot more people than youâll ever hear about feel the same thing he expressed.
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Post by justin5545 on Feb 3, 2020 21:20:23 GMT -5
we aren't the ones crying over his tweet. No they're the ones crying because a few minutes out of the 14 minute halftime show wasn't delivered in English I guess white people can no longer express anything on Twitter that isn't Uber positive, without being a fragile crying white person.
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Post by Naos on Feb 3, 2020 21:27:29 GMT -5
Hot 100: #70 (+17)
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Post by fe_lipeoliveira on Feb 3, 2020 22:53:15 GMT -5
Let's not forget he's no strange to controversy, since 'Bury Me In Dixie' was even removed from streaming services, probably because of the Robert E. Lee reference.
Anyway, I just felt like dropping this here.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 3, 2020 23:10:09 GMT -5
No they're the ones crying because a few minutes out of the 14 minute halftime show wasn't delivered in English I guess white people can no longer express anything on Twitter that isn't Uber positive, without being a fragile crying white person. He said he needed a translator to be able understand the halftime show, which again makes no sense because the majority of it was performed in English. And then his response to criticism is apparently blocking his own fans that support and buy his music. How is that not the definition of fragility?
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Post by rsandcm1 on Feb 4, 2020 1:21:04 GMT -5
I have no problem with the tweet. I find it to be just a stupid joke. Him blocking people is ridiculous, though. But as much as I find no issue with this tweet, I do have issues getting into his music in general just because of the Robert E. Lee reference in his older song. I struggle to understand anyone who feels that Robert E. Lee deserves to take a bow.
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Post by vamp111 on Feb 4, 2020 2:02:03 GMT -5
It is interesting to see Mickey Guyton talk about this...she is NOT happy. Scroll down for entertainment. I need some more popcorn: twitter.com/MickeyGuyton/with_repliesI personally think she shouldn't be adding fuel, its probably not good to get into a feud with somebody you are in the industry with. Entertaining nonetheless.
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Post by fe_lipeoliveira on Feb 4, 2020 9:12:27 GMT -5
See the point?
It's interesting how a man can be reckless and get away with it, while the woman needs to be careful not to piss of people of the same industry. If we were to go with this line of thought, there are Latinx people in this industry too. Shouldn't he have thought about them?
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Post by seak05 on Feb 4, 2020 18:05:30 GMT -5
Apparently while Riley has heard of and can operate twitter, he does not know how to use google, which is why he had to turn to twitter for help translating the lyrics đ. Also I have a country radio treats women fairly bridge for sale.
(Lets be real he meant it as a âjokeâ to tap into the why is some of the super bowl halftime show not in English demographic).
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Post by ethanhunt on Feb 5, 2020 10:51:09 GMT -5
I personally feel like I can't enjoy this song song or any of his music anymore after his comments. Especially considering some of he was already treading in murky water with Bury Me in Dixie. I used to think " I wish every road was named Copperhead was just a goofy line" but now i'm thinking maybe Riley is just that fucking stupid that he thinks that would be a good idea
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Post by ladyđfan on Feb 5, 2020 22:11:30 GMT -5
He tweeted an apology, but something tells me that he wasnât the one who wrote it:
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Post by LBTrocks on Feb 5, 2020 22:38:32 GMT -5
And here starts the damage control...
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Post by raylatch98 on Feb 5, 2020 22:58:20 GMT -5
Rule #1 for a public figure and especially one in country music who is rising in this day and age in social media. Hire a PR person or someone to maintain and check your Twitter, it's one thing when a reality show nobody says something controversial and shitty on Twitter, like no one cares. It is a whole different thing when people who are popular or at least a decently recognizable name (like Riley Green is in country music) to say something controversial.
I will give Riley Green the benefit of the doubt since fool me once shame on me. But if his Twitter is again controversial than I am probably gonna officially sour on him whole heartily.
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Post by recordyear on Feb 6, 2020 0:21:41 GMT -5
I honestly don't see the need of him to defend/deflect the opinion so much. First almost nobody's career is canceled by controversial tweets (e.g. Lizzo, Halsey, Chase Rice), maybe they will gain a few haters but they will get haters by other means anyway. And second constantly defending/deflecting just reminds people your opinion existed. Remember modern people have short-term memory regarding these unless they are stans/haters, so they will most likely forget what Riley Green has said within a week. Even Halsey deleted her apology regarding remarks on Pitchfork company lol
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Post by lipe on Feb 6, 2020 8:13:24 GMT -5
there's a difference between not knowing Spanish and not being interested in other cultures. Okay well the language breakdown on the halftime show was like 25% Spanish and 75% English so these comments are literally head-scratching. Almost all of JLO's set was in English except for the J. Balvin feature and at least half of Shakira's set was completely in English as well. Riley's comment was insensitive and childish, as are the ones defending him and downplaying his tweet. It's amazing how fragile white people get when they hear the faintest use of another language that they don't understand. Yeah and actually Shakira's set was mostly on english too. She sang Whenever Wherever, Empire, She Wolf, I Like It & Hips Don't Lie on english and just Chantaje and literally one line from Ojos AsĂ on spanish. So it's hard to say he just wants to understand the lyrics other than just wanting to throw an insensitive joke about Latin women headlining the Super Bowl.
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Post by baltized on Feb 6, 2020 12:58:47 GMT -5
I think people are reading way too much into it. đ¤ˇââď¸ đ¤ˇââď¸
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 6, 2020 13:06:08 GMT -5
I donât really see the problem with his tweet other than a bunch of people jumping on it and having heated reactions. A lot more people than youâll ever hear about feel the same thing he expressed. Oh we know more people feel the same way; theyâre voting for Trump and ok with locking kids in cages.
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Post by bboat11 on Feb 6, 2020 14:31:37 GMT -5
I think there is more to his tweet than simply making a joke about wanting to understand the Spanish-specific lyrics. As a high school teacher, this sounds exactly like one of the jokes you will hear if your students ever have a sub with a really heavy accent. Like the person could literally speak perfect English, but have a bit of an accent, and the students will make jokes like âI wish I had a translator so I could understand them.â **Turns and snickers with their friends** Or the people who make fun of customer service representatives from foreign locations on the phone.
It doesnât mean theyâre racist, and it doesnât mean heâs racist. But such jokes are always meant to appeal to the most ignorant people in the room for cheap laughs. Most people have those kinds of thoughts in them to some level, but learn that they are not necessarily appropriate to put out into the world. Especially when you are a person with a bigger platform than others, you have a bigger responsibility to use your words carefully. Example, students might get some laughs for mocking a teacherâs accent in front of their peers, but if a teacher mocks another teacherâs accent in front of their students they might face backlash and potential disciplinary action. Itâs the same action, but different outcome depending on whoâs involved. As a âcelebrityâ (as small of one as he may be), Riley has influence over people, kinda like the teacher in this scenario. So he naturally needs to be held to higher standards. Otherwise heâll just look like an idiot, even if heâs not a racist.
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Post by baltized on Feb 6, 2020 15:15:13 GMT -5
I donât really see the problem with his tweet other than a bunch of people jumping on it and having heated reactions. A lot more people than youâll ever hear about feel the same thing he expressed. Oh we know more people feel the same way; theyâre voting for Trump and ok with locking kids in cages. Way to generalize. And I hope you know the whole âlocking kids in cagesâ was an Obama administration thing.
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Post by bboat11 on Feb 6, 2020 16:00:13 GMT -5
Oh we know more people feel the same way; theyâre voting for Trump and ok with locking kids in cages. Way to generalize. And I hope you know the whole âlocking kids in cagesâ was an Obama administration thing. Oop, did Obamaâs new album just drop?? We should probably move over to his single thread if we want to keep talking about him!
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