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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Sept 27, 2019 19:49:19 GMT -5
What Maroon 5 praise do you speak of??? There’s what, a 2:20 ratio of fans to haters here? Not that that’s a problem, but it makes your comment difficult to understand. What I mean is that anyone who dares give any ounce of criticism towards this band on here is met by at least one crazy fan who can't seem to comprehend that making a criticism and being a hater are not the same thing. And then having your opinion be completely dismissed because of it is asinine. It's toxic. I completely disagree that that is what’s happening. I am far from a maroon 5 “Stan” and have been very critical of their songs that I don’t like. In my opinion, there is a difference between that and much of what I see here, which to me reads more as general hate of the band itself as opposed to specific criticism of this song. If anything, the anti-maroon 5 crowd seems somewhat sensitive to me to those thinking that this song will be successful. I’m honestly not sure why those who dislike the song continue to check the thread to respond to every (sparingly) positive post. Personally, when I don’t like a song I comment as such and leave it at that, perhaps following along silently, but not unnecessarily creating drama with those that disagree. You’re right...that kind of behavior is toxic.
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Post by Choco on Sept 27, 2019 19:51:18 GMT -5
I do have to say I'm kinda tired of some of the "ugh, only on Pulse would a M5 song get this kind of hate". It implies that you're somehow being held hostage and forced to read the forum... it's not a M5 thing exclusively, although they're probably one of the biggest examples. This is all over some attempt to make this seem more impressive than "Lover", and my point was it isn't. This is a lead single that is following their biggest hit yet. If any M5 track was gonna have a sizable debut on Spotify it was this one. Whether that means they have some sort of viral video coming to improve it's numbers is another story. Right now I think it will go the way of "Wait": big radio hit that is ultimately held back by low streams and middling sales (although again it's 2019, anyone outside of the top 3 on iTunes had very low sales anyways). As for the brand thing, just because Adam isn't on The Voice and the Super Bowl got poor reviews doesn't mean they're suddenly some sort of underdog. Save for a few missteps like "This Summer...", they have one of the most consistent hit streaks I can recall, since "Moves Like Jagger" revived their momentum.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Sept 27, 2019 20:58:10 GMT -5
I mean, I can't believe anyone thinks the song won't be successful, at least to a certain extent, "hater" or fan lol. Radio LOVES M5 and LOVES the nice little generic boring groove they have going on. I think they feel like a safe choice that won't have people changing the channel, which is often the goal of radio. I have zero doubts this will be at least a top 5 on pop and probably a 10 week #1 on Hot ac and #1 on Ac throughout the holidays and my mom will play it at least 100 times during the holidays talking about what a "nice song" it is
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Post by Leo ✔ on Sept 27, 2019 22:24:42 GMT -5
POP 147 22 MAROON 5 Memories 3446 28 3418 19.409 + 540 spins + 512 bullet + 2.167 audience
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AC -- 37 MAROON 5 Memories 40 0 40 0.214 + 9 spins + 9 bullet + 0.025 audience
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Post by Leo ✔ on Sept 28, 2019 14:14:06 GMT -5
POP 42 26 MAROON 5 Memories 2801 1240 1561 11.430 - 645 spins - 1867 bullet - 7.979 audience
HOT AC 27 17 MAROON 5 Memories 1844 652 1192 9.554 - 278 spins - 907 bullet - 3.659 audience
AC 67 38 MAROON 5 Memories 41 7 34 0.181 + 1 spin - 6 bullet - 0.033 audience
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Post by divasummer on Sept 28, 2019 14:31:46 GMT -5
^^ That's pretty good for an 8th day effect, isn't it? ^^
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 14:39:06 GMT -5
^^ That's pretty good for an 8th day effect, isn't it? ^^ Ehh, kinda.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 15:01:34 GMT -5
For a regular alternative band from early 2000s they have been unbelievably successful and charting long term and I still dont understand what is their key of success. Of course they make no longer rock music, but cheesy pop music. But their career trajectory reminds me of great MOR rock bands of 1970-1980ies. A la Journey or Foreigner. Still Maroon 5's music is nowhere near in term of quality. "Memories" should sink them, but probably not.
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Post by dann on Sept 28, 2019 15:23:34 GMT -5
The song is meh. But what explains this sudden fall?
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Post by rainie on Sept 28, 2019 18:28:57 GMT -5
lmao @ everyone being defensive of THIS Maroon 5 song. couldnt yall have at least shown up when they were pushing something that moved faster then a granny's crawl?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Sept 28, 2019 22:11:56 GMT -5
I don’t consider myself a maroon 5 hater by any means. If I was, I wouldn’t check out their stuff still. I simply think they’ll fallen incredibly far from how great they actually were in the beginning and it’s unfortunate that they’re not likely to get that back - though there was a great song on an album a few albums ago that suggested to me they still got it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 23:05:06 GMT -5
I don’t consider myself a maroon 5 hater by any means. If I was, I wouldn’t check out their stuff still. I simply think they’ll fallen incredibly far from how great they actually were in the beginning and it’s unfortunate that they’re not likely to get that back - though there was a great song on an album a few albums ago that suggested to me they still got it. Probably was It Was Always You or Maps from V Too bad the rest of V essentially was hot garbage
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Post by Au$tin on Sept 28, 2019 23:35:56 GMT -5
The song is meh. But what explains this sudden fall? 8th day effect. When songs receive radio deals on their first day of release, they get an abnormally high amount of airplay for their age and position on the chart. Since the chart is a seven-day rolling period, that first day of airplay falls off on its 8th day of release, causing significant losses. For this song in particular, here have been its daily updates to get a better view at the rolling chart/8th day effect in action. Date: Spins That Day (Spins for Last 7 Days) [Daily Update] 9/19: 28 (28) [+28]* 9/20: 1212 (1240) [+1212] 9/21: 235 (1475) [+235] 9/22: 238 (1713) [+238] 9/23: 330 (2043) [+330] 9/24: 369 (2412) [+369] 9/25: 494 (2906) [+494] 9/26: 568 (3446) [+540] 9/27: 567 (2801) [-645] So today's update (showcasing yesterday's airplay) indicates that yesterday was actually its third best airplay day to date, but because it was going up against its biggest day, the rolling chart indicated a loss instead of a gain. It's a significant loss as it received over twice as many spins on its first day to its eighth day. Based on this data we should probably expect something between a +300-+350 tomorrow. *All big releases like this typically get a few stray spins on "the day before their release" due to time zone differences, leaks, etc. They're usually negligible like this one's.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Sept 29, 2019 14:07:36 GMT -5
POP 38 23 MAROON 5 Memories 3156 1475 1681 12.539 + 355 spins + 120 bullet + 1.109 audience
HOT AC 23 16 MAROON 5 Memories 2046 855 1191 10.205 + 202 spins - 1 bullet + 0.651 audience
AC 73 32 MAROON 5 Memories 53 7 46 0.224 + 12 spins + 12 bullet + 0.043 audience
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Post by Naos on Sept 30, 2019 15:13:57 GMT -5
Hot 100: #22 (debut)
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Post by Leo ✔ on Sept 30, 2019 21:41:54 GMT -5
POP 36 23 MAROON 5 Memories 3531 1714 1817 13.838 + 375 spins + 136 bullet + 1.299 audience
HOT AC 20 14 MAROON 5 Memories 2247 1040 1207 10.893 + 201 spins + 16 bullet + 0.688 audience
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Post by Leo ✔ on Oct 1, 2019 9:51:00 GMT -5
POP 32 23 MAROON 5 Memories 3887 2043 1844 14.893 + 356 spins + 27 bullet + 1.055 audience
HOT AC 20 14 MAROON 5 Memories 2414 1253 1161 11.524 + 167 spins - 46 bullet + 0.631 audience
AC 57 28 MAROON 5 Memories 75 14 61 0.309 + 8 spins + 1 bullet + 0.048 audience
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Post by xykes on Oct 1, 2019 11:20:15 GMT -5
the argument shifted from “the song is a hit! they go #1 on YouTube all the time” What? Who said that lol Look, guys, liking each others anti-M5 comments religiously doesn't make them factually correct. "You said climate change isn't real and that dolphins were fish!" (liked by M5 hater, **DieAdamDie**, and 3 more) This board is wild. What I mean is that anyone who dares give any ounce of criticism towards this band on here is met by at least one crazy fan who can't seem to comprehend that making a criticism and being a hater are not the same thing. And then having your opinion be completely dismissed because of it is asinine. It's toxic. This board does doesn't give "ounces" of "criticism" to Maroon 5. This board HATES Maroon 5. In metric tons. Consistently. Every single single is met with a wave of unreasonably strong hate on this board. People who have no interest in the band find themselves in here "I hope this flops" "they haven't had a good song in 30 years" "do they even play instruments anymore?" "why doesn't it sound like dat Songs About Janelle". Oh, but the fans are the toxic ones. Okay. As if any other thread here would tolerate that type of constant hate about their own faves without saying something. Why should M5 fans stay silent?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 1, 2019 13:30:28 GMT -5
Lol
Am I a hater too?
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Post by surfy on Oct 1, 2019 14:10:36 GMT -5
xykes, hun is everything okay at home? worried for you! <3
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Oct 1, 2019 14:48:02 GMT -5
I feel you xykes fck them hating ass ***I'M RACIST***s 💀 at "songs about "Janelle" tho.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2019 15:37:49 GMT -5
Bruh what is this messy nonsense
I think everyone can agree that the majority of M5's output these days is garbage and insulting to there early work THOUGH, people have agreed that even in the last 2 mostly s**tty albums, there was at least one or two decent or good songs to be found
Such as What Lovers Do for whatever the last album was called, and It Was Always You & Maps from V Though the shift from what was live instrumentation to everyday programmed modern productions is definitely one that is very hard to overlook that this is a band that for some reason even increased to 7 members in recent years It's not like anyone even knows the other members of M5 too, I've seen no one name anyone other than Adam
On top of that the songwriting doesn't feel anywhere as exciting as it used to be and the songs play out in very play out predictably I have them some slack for it on Overexposed cause I do think that album at least was led by some very good melodies But V went further on the laziness and only two songs from that album have stayed with me and then...I honestly forget the name of the last album just cause of how much I hated it, but I loved What Lovers Do and I liked Cold but aside from that it was not enjoyable at all
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Post by divasummer on Oct 1, 2019 17:18:36 GMT -5
Maroon 5 is winning. lol. Is that what people are mad about? Wow, the band is taking up 1 spot on the radio with their new song, not the other 49??
I find it great that someone can get played on the radio that isn't just 22. We talk about top 40 and age. Well I think it's great Maroon 5 is still getting play!
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Post by Au$tin on Oct 1, 2019 17:21:33 GMT -5
I'd be happier if it was someone making music that didn't sound like it was done in 5 seconds by the most checked out man in existence.
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Post by breathingrande on Oct 2, 2019 5:32:07 GMT -5
The song is ok... But production is lazy...
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Post by Leo ✔ on Oct 2, 2019 9:47:34 GMT -5
POP 27 22 MAROON 5 Memories 4213 2413 1800 16.208 + 326 spins - 44 bullet + 1.315 audience
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Post by Choco on Oct 2, 2019 12:22:34 GMT -5
The song is ok... But production is lazy... omg hater pulse suxxxxxx
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Post by divasummer on Oct 2, 2019 12:32:02 GMT -5
Bruh what is this messy nonsense I think everyone can agree that the majority of M5's output these days is garbage and insulting to there early work THOUGH, people have agreed that even in the last 2 mostly s**tty albums, there was at least one or two decent or good songs to be found Such as What Lovers Do for whatever the last album was called, and It Was Always You & Maps from V Though the shift from what was live instrumentation to everyday programmed modern productions is definitely one that is very hard to overlook that this is a band that for some reason even increased to 7 members in recent years It's not like anyone even knows the other members of M5 too, I've seen no one name anyone other than Adam On top of that the songwriting doesn't feel anywhere as exciting as it used to be and the songs play out in very play out predictably I have them some slack for it on Overexposed cause I do think that album at least was led by some very good melodies But V went further on the laziness and only two songs from that album have stayed with me and then...I honestly forget the name of the last album just cause of how much I hated it, but I loved What Lovers Do and I liked Cold but aside from that it was not enjoyable at all I'm assuming if the group went from 5 to 7 that there must be roles for them within the group. Why would the other members want to split there money with another 2 members if they didn't do anything??
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Post by Leo ✔ on Oct 3, 2019 13:30:56 GMT -5
POP 23 21 MAROON 5 Memories 4445 2904 1541 17.124 + 232 spins - 259 bullet + 0.916 audience
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Post by Leo ✔ on Oct 4, 2019 9:37:26 GMT -5
POP 22 22 MAROON 5 Memories 4667 3446 1221 18.030 + 222 spins - 320 bullet + 0.906 audience
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