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Post by Taylor. on Dec 7, 2021 17:11:33 GMT -5
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Post by NeRD on Dec 7, 2021 17:19:57 GMT -5
Yes, great holds indeed. 30 really coming through with those pure sales.
Ed's performance thus far is pretty disappointing tbh.
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Post by Envoirment on Dec 7, 2021 17:22:32 GMT -5
~36% drop for Adele, not bad at all! I hope it trends up a bit and she gets nearer to 200k. If she follows the same path as 25 she should increase in sales in the 2 weeks leading up to Christmas. I hope they re-air her CBS special at some point (or maybe multiple times lol).
The fact she's expected to do 150k physical sales in week 3 is amazing. It'll likely be near 2 million SPS by the end of the year which is great.
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Post by Choco on Dec 7, 2021 17:43:09 GMT -5
Good for Adele. A bit concerned about just 35k SPS bump tho. That said, selling 150k pure is more than what most people do on week 1.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 7, 2021 17:47:04 GMT -5
Polo G getting a nice boost from his HOF 2.0 considering HOF is currently #69 in the Billboard 200.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 7, 2021 17:47:54 GMT -5
Yes, great holds indeed. 30 really coming through with those pure sales. Ed's performance thus far is pretty disappointing tbh. On the latter point, Silk Sonic possibly falling below = is really worrying.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 7, 2021 17:51:00 GMT -5
It's official:
12/7/2021 By Keith Caulfield
In recent years, it has been rare for an album to sell a million copies in the U.S.
Adele’s 30 is the first album released in over a year to sell a million copies in the U.S.
30 has sold just over 1 million in traditional album sales in the U.S., across all of its formats (CD, vinyl LP, cassette and digital album download), through Dec. 6, according to initial reports to MRC Data. The album was released on Nov. 19.
30 sold 692,000 copies in its first week in the U.S. (week ending Nov. 25), and then sold 225,000 copies in its second week (ending Dec. 2).
The last new released album to sell a million copies in the U.S. (i.e., excluding catalog [older] albums that may have hit the threshold) was Taylor Swift’s Folklore, which was issued on July 24, 2020. It surpassed 1 million sold in the week ending Oct. 22, 2020. Its total sales stand at 1.55 million through Dec. 2. Folklore was the only album released in 2020 to sell a million copies in the U.S.
In recent years, it has been rare for an album to sell a million copies in the U.S. The frequency of million-selling albums has fallen as fans have embraced consuming music via streaming services.
Only three albums released in 2019 have sold a million copies to date (Billie Eilish’s When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?, Swift’s Lover and Harry Styles’ Fine Line) and in 2018 just one album released went on to sell a million (Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper’s soundtrack to A Star is Born).
Keep in mind that traditional album sales are different from equivalent album units. The latter is the measurement used to rank the most popular albums of the week on the Billboard 200 chart. In 2021, through Dec. 2, there are 19 albums that earned over 1 million equivalent album units in the U.S., and nine of them were released in 2021. (Equivalent album units comprise album sales, track equivalent albums [TEA] and streaming equivalent albums [SEA]. Each unit equals one traditional album sales, or 10 individual tracks sold from an album, or 3,750 ad-supported or 1,250 paid/subscription on-demand official audio and video streams generated by songs from an album.)
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Post by fridayteenage on Dec 7, 2021 18:11:25 GMT -5
~36% drop for Adele, not bad at all! I hope it trends up a bit and she gets nearer to 200k. If she follows the same path as 25 she should increase in sales in the 2 weeks leading up to Christmas. I hope they re-air her CBS special at some point (or maybe multiple times lol). The fact she's expected to do 150k physical sales in week 3 is amazing. It'll likely be near 2 million SPS by the end of the year which is great. Aren't the 150k physical and digital?
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 7, 2021 18:22:31 GMT -5
Don't know why Ed is disappointing since he is not as big as Drake, The Weeknd or Bruno in US.
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Post by tobichartmaster on Dec 7, 2021 18:33:22 GMT -5
At around 300k Billboard 200 units difference after 3 weeks, Drakes CLB seems to be strong enough to at least stop Adele‘s 30 from widening the sales gap any further (compared to his first 3 weeks BB200 units). Now it will be interesting to see if his streaming longevity is strong enough to close this gap and catch up.
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Post by Envoirment on Dec 7, 2021 18:39:40 GMT -5
~36% drop for Adele, not bad at all! I hope it trends up a bit and she gets nearer to 200k. If she follows the same path as 25 she should increase in sales in the 2 weeks leading up to Christmas. I hope they re-air her CBS special at some point (or maybe multiple times lol). The fact she's expected to do 150k physical sales in week 3 is amazing. It'll likely be near 2 million SPS by the end of the year which is great. Aren't the 150k physical and digital? Ah yes sorry. Either way it's a really great combined total! I assume she's doing a lot more physically than digitally.
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Post by Caviar on Dec 7, 2021 18:44:12 GMT -5
Adele is not taking her foot off their necks.
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Post by Choco on Dec 7, 2021 18:50:25 GMT -5
Don't know why Ed is disappointing since he is not as big as Drake, The Weeknd or Bruno in US. Simply not true. Ed ranked #3 and #8 on the BB200 decade end chart. Drake came the closest to him at #9, then Bruno's highest album was at #15. You have to go down to #36 to find The Weeknd. That upper echelon where Taylor, Drake and Adele reside? Ed was there until this album. = is just not doing it in any metric that isn't radio play, which coincidentally is the only one that has zero impact on the BB200 numbers. One would expect softer drops following the very small opening the album had but it's just showing no sign of longevity whatsoever (so far). To be fair the Silk Sonic album is doing even worse.
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Post by 85la on Dec 7, 2021 19:07:08 GMT -5
Don't know why Ed is disappointing since he is not as big as Drake, The Weeknd or Bruno in US. Simply not true. Ed ranked #3 and #8 on the BB200 decade end chart. Drake came the closest to him at #9, then Bruno's highest album was at #15. You have to go down to #36 to find The Weeknd. That upper echelon where Taylor, Drake and Adele reside? Ed was there until this album. = is just not doing it in any metric that isn't radio play, which coincidentally is the only one that has zero impact on the BB200 numbers. One would expect softer drops following the very small opening the album had but it's just showing no sign of longevity whatsoever (so far). To be fair the Silk Sonic album is doing even worse. Not exactly true either, as No. 6 Collaborations Project (while not a full-fledged solo studio effort) was a downturn from Multiply and Divide (though still successful), and Afterglow from last year (whether you would call that a "real" single or not), didn't do well, but whether or not he's "as big" or not as those other artists, yeah I mean = definitely isn't pulling in spectacular numbers, though if it weren't for the Christmas albums it might still be in the top 10, and he's already had two very big top 10 singles, so the era definitely isn't a failure, just not quite at the level he was before.
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Post by NeRD on Dec 7, 2021 19:43:43 GMT -5
Ed's popularity has fallen hard in the US. He still has radio on his side...for now. Never thought a studio album from Ed would be limping toward 500k SPS.
folklore's pure sales included bundles right?
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Post by iHype. on Dec 7, 2021 20:00:04 GMT -5
Ed's definitely having a notable decline this era, idk why that one user keeps trying to act like these numbers are fine and what he/his label would have preferred.
Every single 2010s superstar has declined now though. Drake/Taylor have the more ideal declines (can still move lots of albums and get decent sized hits), while Katy/Nicki/etc on the other side have the worst-off declines thus far (not much album power, single power, etc left and have unfavorable images in general with the public now).
Ed is moreso in the middle like Bieber, lost album draw big time, but still can get hits that have longevity.
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Post by WolfSpear on Dec 7, 2021 21:00:47 GMT -5
Ed still managed a couple of top 10’s off the new album, but I think he hit his peak with the ÷ era.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Dec 7, 2021 21:09:00 GMT -5
Ed still managed a couple of top 10’s off the new album, but I think he hit his peak with the ÷ era. I mean, ÷ has 25 billion streams on YT and Spotify alone, so yeah. That's pretty much impossible to reach, not just for him.
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Post by onebuffalo on Dec 7, 2021 21:38:36 GMT -5
It's official: 12/7/2021 By Keith Caulfield In recent years, it has been rare for an album to sell a million copies in the U.S. Adele’s 30 is the first album released in over a year to sell a million copies in the U.S.
30 has sold just over 1 million in traditional album sales in the U.S., across all of its formats (CD, vinyl LP, cassette and digital album download), through Dec. 6, according to initial reports to MRC Data. The album was released on Nov. 19.
30 sold 692,000 copies in its first week in the U.S. (week ending Nov. 25), and then sold 225,000 copies in its second week (ending Dec. 2). The last new released album to sell a million copies in the U.S. (i.e., excluding catalog [older] albums that may have hit the threshold) was Taylor Swift’s Folklore, which was issued on July 24, 2020. It surpassed 1 million sold in the week ending Oct. 22, 2020. Its total sales stand at 1.55 million through Dec. 2. Folklore was the only album released in 2020 to sell a million copies in the U.S. In recent years, it has been rare for an album to sell a million copies in the U.S. The frequency of million-selling albums has fallen as fans have embraced consuming music via streaming services. Only three albums released in 2019 have sold a million copies to date (Billie Eilish’s When We All Fall Asleep, Where Do We Go?, Swift’s Lover and Harry Styles’ Fine Line) and in 2018 just one album released went on to sell a million (Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper’s soundtrack to A Star is Born). Keep in mind that traditional album sales are different from equivalent album units. The latter is the measurement used to rank the most popular albums of the week on the Billboard 200 chart. In 2021, through Dec. 2, there are 19 albums that earned over 1 million equivalent album units in the U.S., and nine of them were released in 2021. (Equivalent album units comprise album sales, track equivalent albums [TEA] and streaming equivalent albums [SEA]. Each unit equals one traditional album sales, or 10 individual tracks sold from an album, or 3,750 ad-supported or 1,250 paid/subscription on-demand official audio and video streams generated by songs from an album.)
I saw this article in Billboard. I have a question: What about the Morgan Wallen album, Dangerous? I know it has over three million in SPS. What are the actual sales? Merci.
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Post by fridayteenage on Dec 7, 2021 22:06:00 GMT -5
morgan's sold under 300k
thus why he's not even top 10 on bb200's year end top sellers
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Dec 7, 2021 22:52:50 GMT -5
^Not including the charts just released, that's 274k pure sales YTD for Dangerous according to oldbloke @ UKMix. That album has been at gotten at least 90% of its SPS YTD from streaming.
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Post by Choco on Dec 7, 2021 23:19:50 GMT -5
Didn't realize 90% of Dangerous' total was streaming. Wow. A Country album behaving like a rap release.
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Post by born on Dec 8, 2021 5:33:42 GMT -5
Amazing numbers for Red (Taylor's Version). I didn't see this coming!
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Post by thegreatdivine on Dec 8, 2021 6:33:02 GMT -5
Mentioning that an artist has declined commercially, when there is clear proof of that happening, doesn't mean that their current era is a complete failure. It's like some of you choose to not see the difference in both statements.
The moment someone rightfully states that an artist has declined commercially (something that happens to every artist who reaches a massive commercial peak), some of you come out with your "but... but!" statements and act like anyone is saying said artist is a big, fat commercial failure.
Ed reached a peak with the ÷ era that most artists don't ever reach. It was always going to be hard for him to match that, yet alone top it. I'd hoped the decline would be softer but I can't say I'm surprised and that probably has more to do with the changes in the industry since 2017 and less to do with him losing support between his fans and the GP. It is what it is.
Still, it's very clear that his current album era is a massive decline from the ÷ era. Bad Habits and Shivers remained stable in the top 10 because of radio support. Take that away and the era really has nothing else to fall back on in terms of the success of the music. Of course, he'll have his stadium tour which will break records and do massive numbers but the music itself isn't doing numbers like it once did and there's nothing wrong in pointing that out.
Regardless, Ed will be just fine. There'll be more albums, more singles, more tours and more success in the future.
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Post by pokepikalem on Dec 8, 2021 9:02:57 GMT -5
Mentioning that an artist has declined commercially, when there is clear proof of that happening, doesn't mean that their current era is a complete failure. It's like some of you choose to not see the difference in both statements. The moment someone rightfully states that an artist has declined commercially (something that happens to every artist who reaches a massive commercial peak), some of you come out with your "but... but!" statements and act like anyone is saying said artist is a big, fat commercial failure. Ed reached a peak with the ÷ era that most artists don't ever reach. It was always going to be hard for him to match that, yet alone top it. I'd hoped the decline would be softer but I can't say I'm surprised and that probably has more to do with the changes in the industry since 2017 and less to do with him losing support between his fans and the GP. It is what it is. Still, it's very clear that his current album era is a massive decline from the ÷ era. Bad Habits and Shivers remained stable in the top 10 because of radio support. Take that away and the era really has nothing else to fall back on in terms of the success of the music. Of course, he'll have his stadium tour which will break records and do massive numbers but the music itself isn't doing numbers like it once did and there's nothing wrong in pointing that out. Either way, Ed will be just fine. There'll be more albums and more success in the future. I read the first para of this post, thought you’re talking about Adele and was ready to be on the defensive mode.
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 8, 2021 9:06:17 GMT -5
Ed is a white male artist, he will have radio still for 20 years at least.
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Post by Forever Winter on Dec 8, 2021 10:45:12 GMT -5
Ed is a white male artist, he will have radio still for 20 years at least. What 50 year old male gets regular radio play? Regardless, this era is definitely a success single wise and the tour is going to be huge
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Post by spiritboy on Dec 8, 2021 11:15:36 GMT -5
Mentioning that an artist has declined commercially, when there is clear proof of that happening, doesn't mean that their current era is a complete failure. It's like some of you choose to not see the difference in both statements. The moment someone rightfully states that an artist has declined commercially (something that happens to every artist who reaches a massive commercial peak), some of you come out with your "but... but!" statements and act like anyone is saying said artist is a big, fat commercial failure. Ed reached a peak with the ÷ era that most artists don't ever reach. It was always going to be hard for him to match that, yet alone top it. I'd hoped the decline would be softer but I can't say I'm surprised and that probably has more to do with the changes in the industry since 2017 and less to do with him losing support between his fans and the GP. It is what it is. Still, it's very clear that his current album era is a massive decline from the ÷ era. Bad Habits and Shivers remained stable in the top 10 because of radio support. Take that away and the era really has nothing else to fall back on in terms of the success of the music. Of course, he'll have his stadium tour which will break records and do massive numbers but the music itself isn't doing numbers like it once did and there's nothing wrong in pointing that out. Regardless, Ed will be just fine. There'll be more albums, more singles, more tours and more success in the future. Thank you. Nobody is denying his decline. This happens to every artist (even Adele). Personally, i am not disappointed by the results. Drake, Taylor and Adele are anomalies, Ed is doing fine in my opinion. Plus, he usually has longevity on his side. People wrote him off after Afterglow and when Bad Habits was released.
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Post by Enigma. on Dec 8, 2021 11:40:32 GMT -5
The House of Gucci soundtrack is out now, interesting to see if it charts (it doesn't contain that many streaming smashes but some of the songs have been popular to an extent)
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Post by forg on Dec 8, 2021 18:13:22 GMT -5
Great for Adele!
Didn't know Fine Line crossed 1M pure sales too, impressive
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