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Post by daniel1784 on May 29, 2023 16:35:19 GMT -5
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Post by thezatch on May 30, 2023 6:23:19 GMT -5
Beyond ready for this. The SOUR era had me in a chokehold.
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Post by SabrinaFan on May 30, 2023 13:58:46 GMT -5
Super excited for this!
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Post by Au$tin on May 30, 2023 19:53:12 GMT -5
I noticed there's no big name release for June 30th yet in terms of album releases. Could this be why? 👀
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Post by daniel1784 on Jun 2, 2023 14:47:10 GMT -5
A countdown is now on her website teasing the time left until June 30th.
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Post by daniel1784 on Jun 6, 2023 17:18:55 GMT -5
The expiration date in the spotify canvas loop has been updated to "06-30-2023"
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Post by Taylor. on Jun 13, 2023 11:06:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 11:29:56 GMT -5
The title, the purple band-aid, the announcement on the 13th.....I wonder who this is about (or who she wants us to think its about).
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jun 13, 2023 11:54:23 GMT -5
The title is interesting, I wonder if it's a ballad, another pop-punk pastiche (maybe riding into a MCR direction, gothic rock) or some fun electropop? It's more than likely another ballad, since opening the era with something familiar makes sense, but I hope she switches it up a bit.
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Post by Taylor. on Jun 13, 2023 12:01:07 GMT -5
She's selling CD singles and vinyls, so... she coming for #1. The single reveals it was co-written with and produced by Daniel Nigro (no surprise there). shopca.oliviarodrigo.com/The title, the purple band-aid, the announcement on the 13th.....I wonder who this is about (or who she wants us to think its about). The purple bandaid seems more like a reference to Sour (which was all purple) but I'd be lying if I said I didn't immediately wonder if it's about Taylor lol
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Post by Au$tin on Jun 13, 2023 12:26:03 GMT -5
I'm sure it's not a direct stab at Taylor. That would be a bit of a career suicide approach to their current "beef" with how absolutely massive, hot, and beloved Taylor is at the moment. (Although if any artist was going to directly attack Taylor Swift and be able to be beloved enough as well to get away with it, it would be Olivia, but I doubt she really is upset enough at Taylor to write a diss track.) I'm sure it's a reference to Sour, not Speak Now TV, and probably thematically deals with the hardships of exploding into superstardom at a young age through the Sour album era.
As far as the sound of it, the art really is giving me punk/gothic vibes, which has me incredibly stoked! The best parts of Sour were the edgier tracks like "brutal," "good 4 u," and "jealousy, jealousy." With the way rock has climbed back into major mainstream popularity, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see her lean into it and give us some sort of Under My Skin-esque sound.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 13, 2023 12:33:13 GMT -5
The track has been added to PlayIGA's site, so it's safe to say (without any surprise of course) that this will be pushed to Pop.
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Post by ilomilo on Jun 13, 2023 12:39:10 GMT -5
This should be interesting!
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Post by musiclife on Jun 13, 2023 12:44:13 GMT -5
She's coming for #1! And I highly doubt this is a Taylor Swift diss track lmao
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Post by SabrinaFan on Jun 13, 2023 12:47:54 GMT -5
I'm apparently completely in the dark as I didn't even realize she was having issues with Taylor lol. Nonetheless, super pumped for this!
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Post by Taylor. on Jun 13, 2023 12:52:53 GMT -5
I'm apparently completely in the dark as I didn't even realize she was having issues with Taylor lol. Nonetheless, super pumped for this! Total speculation based on the fact that Olivia stopped publicly supporting/talking about Taylor after the Deja Vu credits situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 13:05:05 GMT -5
It's totally speculation. But whether it is or isn't about Taylor, its a good tactic to market it that way.
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Post by Mayman on Jun 13, 2023 13:10:35 GMT -5
So excited for this! Glad that she is finally back. I think it could be something along the lines of deja vu/jealousy jealousy/good 4 u.
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Post by musiclife on Jun 13, 2023 13:48:36 GMT -5
So excited for this! Glad that she is finally back. I think it could be something along the lines of deja vu/jealousy jealousy/good 4 u. I'm sure this time the first single will be completely upbeat.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jun 13, 2023 14:22:11 GMT -5
I’m ready! Summer and Halloween🧛♀️ bop is coming.
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jun 13, 2023 14:52:43 GMT -5
I'm apparently completely in the dark as I didn't even realize she was having issues with Taylor lol. Nonetheless, super pumped for this! Total speculation based on the fact that Olivia stopped publicly supporting/talking about Taylor after the Deja Vu credits situation. I think it's less about the whole credit situation and more that someone in her PR probably wanted her to not be tied to Taylor and compared to her all the time, instead carving out her own identity.
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Post by daniel1784 on Jun 13, 2023 16:06:32 GMT -5
We're all ready.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Jun 13, 2023 16:21:30 GMT -5
Total speculation based on the fact that Olivia stopped publicly supporting/talking about Taylor after the Deja Vu credits situation. I think it's less about the whole credit situation and more that someone in her PR probably wanted her to not be tied to Taylor and compared to her all the time, instead carving out her own identity. Swifties also started criticizing Olivia heavily, since in most of her interviews she would mention Taylor or her songs. I always thought it came off sincere and showed that she was a true fan, while some extreme Swifties felt like it was namedropping and trying to use Taylor for clout. I think her PR team probably suggested that she stopped mentioning Taylor because you start to see the change in interviews where you can see she’s intentionally working around Taylor. There was a song association interview where she was actively trying to name songs outside of the Swiftie Discography. There’s also the Olivia vs Sabrina drama that I don’t know is actually real, but clearly if there is real beef, Taylor chose a side and took her on tour. I 100% don’t think there’s any issues between Olivia and Taylor though. Taylor allowed her to sample New Years Day, and Olivia willingly gave credit to Taylor et al for Deja Vu. I think the big issue is you never want to meet your idol. I think Olivia expected a better reception from Taylor than she actually got, and I don’t think Taylor felt obligated to befriend her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2023 16:45:08 GMT -5
I’m ready! I hope it lives up to Sour and crushes it.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Jun 13, 2023 20:57:29 GMT -5
Impacts Pop upon its release on June 30.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jun 13, 2023 21:54:35 GMT -5
I thought sour in general was mid af, but I definitely see potential in her. Crossing my fingers for some real growth.
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Post by kanimal on Jun 13, 2023 22:58:28 GMT -5
I think it's less about the whole credit situation and more that someone in her PR probably wanted her to not be tied to Taylor and compared to her all the time, instead carving out her own identity. Swifties also started criticizing Olivia heavily, since in most of her interviews she would mention Taylor or her songs. I always thought it came off sincere and showed that she was a true fan, while some extreme Swifties felt like it was namedropping and trying to use Taylor for clout. I think her PR team probably suggested that she stopped mentioning Taylor because you start to see the change in interviews where you can see she’s intentionally working around Taylor. There was a song association interview where she was actively trying to name songs outside of the Swiftie Discography. There’s also the Olivia vs Sabrina drama that I don’t know is actually real, but clearly if there is real beef, Taylor chose a side and took her on tour. I 100% don’t think there’s any issues between Olivia and Taylor though. Taylor allowed her to sample New Years Day, and Olivia willingly gave credit to Taylor et al for Deja Vu. I think the big issue is you never want to meet your idol. I think Olivia expected a better reception from Taylor than she actually got, and I don’t think Taylor felt obligated to befriend her. There are numerous celebs who seem to pander to Taylor and the Swifties for clout, but this wasn't one of those one-directional situations. Many seem to forget that Taylor herself leaned into the association, referring to Olivia and Conan Gray as her "kids" in a promo for Fearless TV and then quoting her own mom's famous "i say that's my baby and I'm really proud" on an Olivia Instagram post. This was not at all a case of Olivia asking for a "notice" and not getting it. It was a case of two people showing mutual public love for each other ... and then suddenly stopping. Regarding the bold, I don't remember anyone ever reporting what happened behind-the-scenes. But insofar as the credit was added retroactively, it isn't a direct sample, and Olivia has clearly identified Taylor as an influence (thus nixing any idea that she tried to steal something and sneakily get away with it) ... it seems reasonable to wonder what sparked the decision to add the Cruel Summer writers to Deja Vu. And that opens the floodgates to speculation about whether there's tension. Then you have the fact that neither, to my knowledge, has spoken about the credit situation directly. Olivia did say that the Deja Vu bridge was inspired by Cruel Summer, but I believe that was months before the credit change - and I don't believe she's addressed why things went from "inspired by the yelly vocals" in Cruel Summer to "so similar that the Cruel Summer writers need to be credited." And I'm pretty sure Taylor never said "This was a way to make sure everyone associated with Cruel Summer got proper credit, but I have nothing but respect for Olivia's creativity and am forgoing royalties / donating them to charity." That silence, again, allows people to speculate about some tension. -- More relevant to this song, though, I'd be shocked if Olivia went directly after Taylor ... that was never a great idea even when Taylor was at her low points in terms of approval, and she's probably at an all-time high right now. Plus, regardless of what the diehard Twitter Swifties and Livvies feel about the other artist, I still feel like they share a lot of fans and it would be a risk to alienate some of them. That said, maybe there's something ambiguous enough to get people talking. I would say that Taylor shouting out the new Rodrigo single with an Instagram reply or story post (something Taylor has done for artists before) would go a long way in killing any beef rumors.
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Post by कामसूत्र on Jun 14, 2023 1:15:29 GMT -5
This whole narrative about a potential feud between them or some sort of friendship thing is totally unnecessary. Everyone is not rivals or friends with each other.
Now if "Vampire" ends up actually being about her, then well, it's going to create shockwaves throughout the world.
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Post by Khia on Jun 14, 2023 1:31:09 GMT -5
I don't really have much interest in any alleged Taylor-Olivia beef, but I've always found the Deja Vu sample situation weird. It was absolutely ridiculous to give Taylor credit for Deja Vu--it's just really not that similar to Cruel Summer. And then nothing has really been said about it since (to my knowledge).
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Post by कामसूत्र on Jun 14, 2023 1:38:17 GMT -5
I don't really have much interest in any alleged Taylor-Olivia beef, but I've always found the Deja Vu sample situation weird. It was absolutely ridiculous to give Taylor credit for Deja Vu--it's just really not that similar to Cruel Summer. And then nothing has really been said about it since (to my knowledge). Perhaps it was done to prevent an Ed Sheeran/Marvin Gaye situation?
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