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Post by otaviohmg on Jun 14, 2023 6:37:03 GMT -5
Such a coincidence 'Vampire' competing with 'Cruel Summer' [on the Pop radio and Hot 100 charts] after that 'Deja Vú' situation.
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Post by rnb on Jun 14, 2023 6:39:14 GMT -5
really excited for this, I feel like this is gonna be a pop rock bop which she excels at so this should be good!
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Post by wjr15 on Jun 14, 2023 6:52:31 GMT -5
I loved Sour, it was one of my favorite albums of 2021, so I’m looking forward to this. I’m hoping it’s more upbeat like ‘good 4 u’. We need a summer bop from her. I’d even be happy with something mid tempo like ‘deja vu’ or ‘jealousy, jealousy’. Just please, no ballad for the lead single.
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Post by james518 on Jun 14, 2023 6:53:18 GMT -5
I don’t feel like Taylor taking Sabrina on tour plays into these rumors or “picking a side” either… Olivia is way above opener status..
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Post by Dylan :) on Jun 14, 2023 7:40:06 GMT -5
I don’t really care for Olivia, but I’d love to hear something like either Deja Vu’s production, or else something completely different like Dance The Night
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 8:39:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind a Good 4 U retread, but it would also nice for her to show off some artistic growth. I just want it to be upbeat and not chill at all.
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Post by kanimal on Jun 14, 2023 9:14:14 GMT -5
I don’t feel like Taylor taking Sabrina on tour plays into these rumors or “picking a side” either… Olivia is way above opener status.. It’s more about the very association with Sabrina, which maybe existed to a degree beforehand but has certainly ramped up after Olivia and Taylor stopped talking about each other. You’re generally allowed to be friends with multiple people, but let’s not forget that a certain segment of Taylor fans resents people who associate with Taylor “enemies” like Mayer, Kim K in the past, etc. So in context it’s not completely meaningless that Taylor is all-in on this Sabrina friendship - especially if you believe there’s still beef with Sabrina and Olivia.
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Post by SabrinaFan on Jun 14, 2023 9:37:17 GMT -5
I think it's less about the whole credit situation and more that someone in her PR probably wanted her to not be tied to Taylor and compared to her all the time, instead carving out her own identity. Swifties also started criticizing Olivia heavily, since in most of her interviews she would mention Taylor or her songs. I always thought it came off sincere and showed that she was a true fan, while some extreme Swifties felt like it was namedropping and trying to use Taylor for clout. I think her PR team probably suggested that she stopped mentioning Taylor because you start to see the change in interviews where you can see she’s intentionally working around Taylor. There was a song association interview where she was actively trying to name songs outside of the Swiftie Discography. There’s also the Olivia vs Sabrina drama that I don’t know is actually real, but clearly if there is real beef, Taylor chose a side and took her on tour. I 100% don’t think there’s any issues between Olivia and Taylor though. Taylor allowed her to sample New Years Day, and Olivia willingly gave credit to Taylor et al for Deja Vu. I think the big issue is you never want to meet your idol. I think Olivia expected a better reception from Taylor than she actually got, and I don’t think Taylor felt obligated to befriend her. I feel Olivia not talking about Taylor anymore was most likely a PR decision than anything. I wasn't aware the drama was still so prevalent that people would think Olivia would make her comeback single a diss on Taylor, but it's kinda sad that people think that IMO. I think the above is a great point. Yes, Taylor and Olivia were friendly with each other publicly, but I think the media overblew their friendship a little bit. I don't think they were besties or constantly hanging out or anything; Taylor was just trying to support a young artist who idolized her by being friendly and supportive. Regarding other comments in the thread though, this is just my opinion and everyone is totally welcome to disagree, but it feels toxic to say that anyone who works with Sabrina or Olivia for the rest of their lives is "picking a side." It is possible for both women to be successful without trying to constantly pit them against one another, and it diminishes their artistry to say that they are completely defined by the drama that happened years ago at this point.
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Post by wjr15 on Jun 14, 2023 9:45:38 GMT -5
It’s 2023, why are we still pitting female musicians against each other?
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Post by Choco on Jun 14, 2023 11:33:05 GMT -5
At this stage even Sabrina and Olivia have moved on from the non-troversy.
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Post by musiclife on Jun 14, 2023 12:21:59 GMT -5
The Vampire vinyl is sold out on her official site. Only the Vampire CD single is available.
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Post by daniel1784 on Jun 15, 2023 11:51:42 GMT -5
Even if it's a ballad, it'll likely be good, but similar to Lift Me Up, it won't do very well. At least not as well as it would do if it was something similar to Deja Vu or Good 4 U. I really am hoping we get another Deja Vu or Good 4 U imo.
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Post by Choco on Jun 15, 2023 11:53:25 GMT -5
I'm not sure another ballad is what she needs. I'm not saying abandon the sound, but the lead needs to show some growth (especially if said ballad is, again, about the same subject that was exhausted on SOUR).
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Post by HamedM1 💔 on Jun 15, 2023 21:25:16 GMT -5
Really hope this somehow leads into a moody/dark alt-pop vibe but I remember when people were fooling themselves onto thinking Midnights was gonna be along those lines lol.
I wasn't into Sour much beyond brutal, g4u, and traitor but I like her voice and am intrigued to see where she goes from there.
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Post by avamaxstan on Jun 15, 2023 21:37:11 GMT -5
I'd really love her to continue in the direction of Deja Vu, the best song in her catalogue so far imo.
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Post by MissAmericana on Jun 18, 2023 8:06:30 GMT -5
So excited for this. And, in other news... album title (and announcement) incoming?
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Post by g8erboi on Jun 21, 2023 9:01:36 GMT -5
Alleged snippet of the intro is circulating around TikTok. Piano ballad, sounds like it’ll be a showstopper.
Update: Album might be titled Lunar Eclipse.
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Post by wjr15 on Jun 21, 2023 9:51:56 GMT -5
No one wants a piano ballad in the middle of summer. We want a banger or a mid-tempo bop.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Jun 21, 2023 10:19:35 GMT -5
Olivia started her musical career with a depressing ballad, so I am not surprised in the least she is kicking off this album with one. We already have enough summer bops. I'm actually ready to slow things down a bit.
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Post by musiclife on Jun 21, 2023 11:22:03 GMT -5
That small clip sounds like it's gonna hit hard.
Edit: I know it's a piano but does this small 13 second clip sound like Angel's Like You by Miley Cyrus?
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Post by MissAmericana on Jun 21, 2023 12:12:53 GMT -5
I highly doubt the song is a ballad, regardless of what the snippet shows. My guess is, it'll either start off with some sparse piano and then explode like "deja vu", or that's a snippet of the demo available on the CD and vinyl.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jun 21, 2023 12:26:49 GMT -5
“Explode like Deja Vu” lol. That was just another Taylor-like Hot AC fodder track.
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Post by g8erboi on Jun 21, 2023 12:52:03 GMT -5
That small clip sounds like it's gonna hit hard. Edit: I know it's a piano but does this small 13 second clip sound like Angel's Like You by Miley Cyrus? It was giving me more "Dangerous" by Madison Beer (but even slower) but yeah I see where you’re coming from.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2023 13:41:00 GMT -5
I want this NOW. I need a new song to be obsessed with. :)
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Post by avamaxstan on Jun 21, 2023 14:18:01 GMT -5
If that's the real intro, you can tell it's building to something. I'm guessing a piano-only first verse, explosive chorus, more upbeat heavy bass second verse etc.
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Post by mccloud on Jun 21, 2023 14:31:12 GMT -5
Good 4 U is awesome. Deja Vu was boring...Can someone make something to go out and dance to for once? Billboard is so slow and depressing the last couple years
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Post by HamedM1 💔 on Jun 21, 2023 16:15:04 GMT -5
Good 4 U is awesome. Deja Vu was boring...Can someone make something to go out and dance to for once? Billboard is so slow and depressing the last couple years This casual Dua Lipa erasure ain't it...
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Post by Choco on Jun 21, 2023 18:15:12 GMT -5
Dance music is always there unless you limit your listening habits to whatever is on the Hot 100.
(And even then Ms. Dua is usually on the Hot 100 anyways)
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Post by lazer on Jun 21, 2023 21:26:58 GMT -5
I remember the snippet to No Tears Left To Cry, it started as somber and many thought it was gonna be a ballad. Maybe Vampire will build up eventually.
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Post by Fears in the Fire on Jun 21, 2023 23:44:36 GMT -5
People said this exact same thing when the Lose You To Love Me teaser came out (no tears left to cry was mentioned too). I’m not betting on one or the other, I could see it being either.
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