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Post by neel on Sept 1, 2023 13:54:30 GMT -5
Country music slowly rising to top of dethroning hip hop’s 6 years at the top. Now spawning all kinds of racist and political spawned songs at the top of the Billboard Hot 100. There’s pretty much just 3 genres dominating the American music scene (Country, Hip Hop and Pop Music). But yet, the genre that dominated the 80s, 90s and 2000s is no where to be seen. Rock music.
So that brings me to the question, do you guys think rock music will ever return back to the mainstream. Hell, do you guys even think rock bands will be leading such resurgence? I remember all the “punk revival” back in 2021 with Olivia Rodrigo leading it that got everybody’s hopes up on the future of the genre, but that just seemed like a short TikTok trend than anything. Or will it be another "Generation X/Nirvana" type rebellion stint that brings it back?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Sept 1, 2023 14:26:25 GMT -5
I think it’s possible. Rock musicians just need to start speaking for somebody rather than being stuck in the past glories of rock from decades past.
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Post by kura on Sept 1, 2023 15:53:16 GMT -5
Probably not unfortunately. With the rise of TikTok, people haven't been able to sit through anything that isn't catchy. Pop music does just that. It's a genre that is easy to listen to and kids like it. But i would like to see rock make a return.
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Post by lazer on Sept 1, 2023 17:47:24 GMT -5
It's possible but it has to have new flavor instead of clinging to the past.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 1, 2023 21:24:49 GMT -5
I don't think anyone expected country to be on top the way it has been the past couple months, so you can never truly rule anything out. It'll come back around in the future probably.
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Post by salt on Sept 1, 2023 23:31:49 GMT -5
Probably not unfortunately. With the rise of TikTok, people haven't been able to sit through anything that isn't catchy. Pop music does just that. It's a genre that is easy to listen to and kids like it. But i would like to see rock make a return. The catchiness has nothing to do with genre and more to do with how good the artist is at writing hooks. Sure, there are some genres of rock/metal where the artist is trying to make music as inaccessible as possible, but if you look at a lot of rock hits throughout history, they're catchy just like any other type of hit. For example, look at Linkin Park, who sold gangbusters and have some of the most referenced songs of the past 25 years simply due to them writing a lot of very catchy hooks.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 2, 2023 1:31:17 GMT -5
Country music is literally all based on nostalgia, so if rock somehow needs to change then so does country. But they don’t, nostalgia is what works these days. Just come up with a familiar, catchy hook.
Either way, a really catchy new country song still has that “brings me back to high school” days vibe.
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Post by jdanton2 on Sept 2, 2023 4:55:13 GMT -5
there are rock songs charting . Jelly Roll's Need A Favor might be considered country where it reached #1 but is also a hit on the rock charts where it reached #1 and it crossed over to pop. Olivia Rodrigo bad idea right? certainly is a rock song as was her good 4 u which reached #1.
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Post by Joe1240 on Sept 2, 2023 5:01:46 GMT -5
The only way for rock to return is to evolve past the same old Modern Rock bands such as Green Day and let go of these past their prime old rockers like The Rolling Stones etc. You just need new flavor to stay for a genre to stay alive with a younger audience which is what pop, country and hip hop are constantly doing to keep people interested. Rock has just become a boring genre and the classic rock genre with the same old songs and bands has made it mediocre and uninteresting.
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Post by neel on Sept 2, 2023 5:41:27 GMT -5
there are rock songs charting . Jelly Roll's Need A Favor might be considered country where it reached #1 but is also a hit on the rock charts where it reached #1 and it crossed over to pop. Olivia Rodrigo bad idea right? certainly is a rock song as was her good 4 u which reached #1. Well yeah, but what I’m talking about are rock songs from actual rock artists that show weekly stability on charts like Billboard Hot 100 just like hip hop and country music does. Nowadays you only see 1-3 rock songs lingering and most of the times it’s below the Top 75.
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Post by Glass Joe on Sept 2, 2023 10:13:21 GMT -5
As far as full on rock that relies on guitar and bass (like Nickelback, Green Day, Foo Fighters, Chili Peppers, Hinder, 3 Doors Down, etc.), probably not, unfortunately. But rock-ish songs that include electronic elements like Imagine Dragons still have a chance on Pop radio. Guitar only driven rock proved to be basically done since the 2010s when EDM and Trap took over. But bands on the Indie circuit still did good because of their different approach of combining elements of the current pop radio model.
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Post by irice22 on Sept 2, 2023 10:37:26 GMT -5
Yes, of course! But keep in mind rock rarely topped the charts even when it was huge. Big names like Nirvana and Led Zeppelin only had one Top 10 hit. Music is constantly going through trends. Who would have predicted the Top 3 songs to be country in 2023 four years ago?
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Post by jdanton2 on Sept 2, 2023 10:52:52 GMT -5
Billboard started their mainstream rock airplay chart on the week of March 21st in 1981 . i thought i would compare how many songs that were on that chart and the Hot 100 that week vs this week.in 1981 there were 20 songs on both the Hot 100 and the mainstream rock airplay chart .artists such as REO Speedwagon , Styx , Eric Clapton ,Rush , Steve Winwood, Bruce Springsteen , Phil Collins and more.this week only Jelly Roll.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Sept 2, 2023 11:00:47 GMT -5
Country music is literally all based on nostalgia, so if rock somehow needs to change then so does country. But they don’t, nostalgia is what works these days. Just come up with a familiar, catchy hook. Either way, a really catchy new country song still has that “brings me back to high school” days vibe. The lyrics and themes may be but the sound definitely isn’t.
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Post by HamedM1 💔 on Sept 2, 2023 11:01:39 GMT -5
Demi Lovato's REVAMPED project will revive rock music as we know it obv.
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Post by soulfulwings on Sept 2, 2023 11:07:03 GMT -5
Probably, with country topping the charts anything is possible. I would like to see rock music make a return to the charts as it is missed.
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Post by leonagwen on Sept 4, 2023 16:12:43 GMT -5
Part of the problem is that there are lots of oldies stations that play rock music from the 60s,70s 80s and 90s.The rock music of today is not on par with the oldies rock music. Also in 2023 there aren't really any identifiable rock stars like there was in the past.Also older rock groups are still touring and making more money than the newer rock groups.
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Post by PREDS PRIDE on Sept 4, 2023 21:07:14 GMT -5
it's looking less and less likely that it does as time goes on and as more country songs hit #1 but I sure hope it does. the charts are a lot more boring without it imo, having songs that sound more real and like older stuff is always nice to hear every now and then rather than just electronic/synthesized stuff all in the charts now. not to sound like a boomer or anything but rock definitely keeps things interesting and would make me more likely to follow the charts more.
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Post by rainie on Sept 7, 2023 17:01:36 GMT -5
i mean. i'd argue rock has already sort of returned, no ? not like a full on revival on the level of country's resurgence, but beggin peaked in the teens and stuck around long enough to make the year end list and i'd call that a pretty "pure" rock song. same with happier then ever, which if we're going off peak heaviness, has to be the heaviest song to make the year end chart in at least 15 years, as well as several big pop hits that incorporated rock elements pretty heavily like my ex's best friend, as it was, and good 4 u
besides as it was, this was all that was a couple years ago, but in addition to as it was, we've gotten multiple charting songs in a similar alt rock vein (such as the two dv4d singles), a #1 hit that's technically r&b but includes prominent guitars + borrows from the indie rock playbook (bad habit), a couple country songs that incorporate rock elements pretty heavily (the two jelly roll singles and even kane brown's new lead, amongst others) and even the first true indie folk song to hit the charts in some time (ceilings), which to me suggests that there's still a market for music in the rock hemisphere, it's just that people are kind of divided abt exactly what that should sound like
going back to the question op asked ,,,, i think we'll continue to see rock-y songs chart periodically, and with trends ebbing and flowing i think there's a good chance we'll have another year or two in the 2020s where rock makes more of a splash like it did in 2021, though i don't see it being with pop punk. whether it'll have longevity from there on out i think depends on what style of rock is having a resurgence and the quality of music that's reaching the forefront of the trend. i def agree that following rock tradition has gotten us nowhere so it'll need to be something new and exciting with genuine hype and innovation behind it, with enough promotion to get it out there but not to much that it feels astroturfed in the same way the latter half of the pop punk revival did
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