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Post by Choco on Jan 15, 2024 14:31:01 GMT -5
Lmaooooo the PR spins this week between him and Ariana have been crazy.
People will come back when he delivers a bop. He has potential. This song just wasn't it. Remember the song "Holiday" that was suppossed to be his lead into Montero? No one does and he was fine after.
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Post by wjr15 on Jan 15, 2024 17:36:50 GMT -5
I have a feeling they’re gonna pull a ‘Focus’ with this. Let the single fall off, LNX goes away for a few months to tweak the album, and comes back this summer with a new lead single.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 15, 2024 17:53:09 GMT -5
POP -- 36 LIL NAS X J Christ 879 0 879 2.627 + 296 spins + 296 bullet + 0.784 audience
RHYTHMIC -- 40 LIL NAS X J Christ 376 0 376 1.255 + 50 spins + 50 bullet + 0.097 audience
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Jan 15, 2024 18:24:56 GMT -5
I have a feeling they’re gonna pull a ‘Focus’ with this. Let the single fall off, LNX goes away for a few months to tweak the album, and comes back this summer with a new lead single. Right! Good thing he didn't set a date for the 2nd album. Just come back with a different type of heat.
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Post by Snowbeast on Jan 15, 2024 20:07:36 GMT -5
Lmaooooo the PR spins this week between him and Ariana have been crazy. People will come back when he delivers a bop. He has potential. This song just wasn't it. Remember the song "Holiday" that was suppossed to be his lead into Montero? No one does and he was fine after. Exactly. This song flat out sucks, and the artistic direction is cringe and as unoriginal as could be. He did the religion thing perfectly with CMBYN. Either evolve, like a talented person like him can do with intention, or stop wasting the label promo dollars on a reductive parody of your past. I bet he’ll have the song of the summer.
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Post by lazer on Jan 15, 2024 20:38:54 GMT -5
Not only the controversy falls flat but also the music itself too. This sounds absolutely dated for this year.
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Post by 💙𝖇𝖎𝖑𝖑𝖎𝖊𝖎𝖑𝖎𝖘𝖍𝖋𝖆𝖓 on Jan 15, 2024 21:40:17 GMT -5
At this point, the song kinda flopped everywhere😬😬.
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Post by 𝐂𝐎𝐂𝐎🍁 on Jan 15, 2024 22:54:17 GMT -5
I live for how every controversy the past decade is like Lady Gaga. Her incredible Powers!! What a trendsetter and a vocalist!
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Post by leonagwen on Jan 16, 2024 4:57:34 GMT -5
To all the naysayers out there, this song only dropped down 2 spots on USA Spotify today and actually gained 7 thousand streams.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 16, 2024 6:09:57 GMT -5
Those radio updates with the deals look foolish af.
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Post by balletgirlmom on Jan 16, 2024 9:23:46 GMT -5
Lil Nas X did a great job with his imagery, and he shows his art with it. It is a shame when artists get criticized for their art. Hope this song does well.
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Post by big2000 on Jan 16, 2024 15:27:08 GMT -5
This does appear to be making a rebound, albeit a very small one. It’s back on the global chart today at #190, with 1.17 million streams, gaining at least 80,000 compared to yesterday.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 16, 2024 15:31:08 GMT -5
POP -- 33 LIL NAS X J Christ 1147 0 1147 3.393 + 268 spins + 268 bullet + 0.766 audience
RHYTHMIC -- 39 LIL NAS X J Christ 437 0 437 1.402 + 61 spins + 61 bullet + 0.147 audience
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Post by bat1990 on Jan 16, 2024 16:00:31 GMT -5
This is alright but feels on par with "Holiday" that ended up getting shelved from Montero.
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Jan 16, 2024 18:00:16 GMT -5
Ion give a damn, I still love "Holiday"! lol
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Post by Choco on Jan 16, 2024 18:03:30 GMT -5
This does appear to be making a rebound, albeit a very small one. It’s back on the global chart today at #190, with 1.17 million streams, gaining at least 80,000 compared to yesterday. Lmao
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Post by Jose Polica on Jan 16, 2024 18:32:58 GMT -5
78 Adds at US Pop Radio.
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Post by chartfreak on Jan 16, 2024 19:26:25 GMT -5
I'm not buying the whole apology thing.
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Post by Choco on Jan 16, 2024 19:43:57 GMT -5
To be fair no one's buying the song either
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Post by Leo ✔ on Jan 17, 2024 12:58:59 GMT -5
POP -- 30 LIL NAS X J Christ 1380 0 1380 3.935 + 233 spins + 233 bullet + 0.542 audience
RHYTHMIC -- 35 LIL NAS X J Christ 534 0 534 1.641 + 97 spins + 97 bullet + 0.239 audience
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Post by omieethehomieee on Jan 17, 2024 14:12:18 GMT -5
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Post by SabrinaFan on Jan 17, 2024 14:12:54 GMT -5
Just heard this on the radio for the first time, and it sounded ridiculous. They literally muted the title 😭 Why even play the song if they are that offended lol?
"Bitch I'm back like J Christ"
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Post by bat1990 on Jan 17, 2024 14:21:47 GMT -5
I wish I could read it, but it's behind a paywall.
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Post by omieethehomieee on Jan 17, 2024 15:14:04 GMT -5
Here’s the full article:
More than any working pop star, Lil Nas X understands how music is consumed in the contemporary landscape: in pieces, in memes, in reaction videos, in snippets of audio used to soundtrack get-ready-with-me clips on social media. In intimations and nudges. In discourse that may or may not have much to do with said music at all.
And so for Lil Nas X, a song is a pretense. He is less a rapper or a singer than a meme maker with a seven-figure budget. Music is the fourth or fifth most important part of his presentation, the foundation for missives on X (formerly Twitter), TikToks and Instagram posts that matter as much, and probably more.
Or, as the hook of his new single “J Christ” muses: “Is he ’bout to give ’em something viral?”
That would be the goal, of course, but the best viral content bubbles up unpolished from the ether, slightly awkward and just novel enough to astound. That’s what Lil Nas X made his name with. It is the story of “Old Town Road,” his breakout song, which went from TikTok curiosity to bar mitzvah anthem in just a few months in early 2019. The vexatious “J Christ” tries to reverse engineer that kind of success. It is planned virality, mood-boarded and line-itemed. First, it is a concept — Lil Nas X is returning — and only then, a visual narrative and a song to animate it. The result is stylish but not artistic, glossy but without shine, hyperstylized but lazy. Being the most clever pop star is much easier than being the most clever online comedian, and his tropes are wearing thin. In the video, which vividly and sometimes beautifully riffs on cheap shock, he is a Christ-ish figure — another comeback king! — dancing his way through various fields of evil in a lumpy sequel to a beloved original: “Montero (Call Me by Your Name),” Lil Nas X’s comically baroque single and video from 2021. In that playful and bizarre clip, he theatrically tussles with the temptations of new fame, culminating in giving a lap dance to Satan. It was refreshing, winking bacchanal — a whole idea. J Christ,” to the extent that it functions at all, works in bits. The video is merely a string of micro-shock vignettes, many of them a callback to his greatest hits (of two years ago): the Satan Shoes containing a drop of blood, the stripper pole to hell from the “Montero” video. He remakes the “Jesus crossing up Satan on a basketball court” meme. He ushers a flock of animals to a big boat. (That was Noah, but whatever.) In a promotional clip, he pounds his staff onto the ground and parts a huge body of water. (Moses, but who’s counting.) The video opens, for unclear reasons, with celebrity impersonators of Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Ed Sheeran, Kanye West and more lined up at heaven’s gate. This conceit, too, is recycled — either from the nearest Madame Tussauds, or from West’s 2016 “Famous” video, a far more titillating and genuine transgression. Each of these micro jokes functions like a jump scare — just unexpected enough to elicit a tiny gasp. But underneath, there’s little scaffolding. They’re punchlines designed to be clipped and denatured of meaning. The lyrics are empty, too — only the grating, nasal, syllable-extending assonance rhyming “vi-i-i-ral”/“hi-i-i-gh” has any stickiness. (It should be said that the video is a small triumph of wardrobe: striped sweat socks under cowboy boots paired with a sheer wrap, a pink cheerleader outfit, a bejeweled headpiece that bisects the face vertically. The haute-camp styling is the most conceptually rigorous thing here.)
Record labels are increasingly in the content business, and by that metric, Lil Nas X is the platonic ideal of a star. Imagine the meetings involving artists who are less comfortable with the camera, less self-aware, less fluent with algorithmic distribution. Imagine musicians who simply wish to play music.
Lil Nas X cannot. “yall mind if i enter my christian era?” he asked on Instagram a few weeks ago, in a caption to a video in which he sang a folk-gospel song more elegant than anything he’s thus far released. On TikTok, he wolfed down communion wafers. He posted a mock acceptance letter from Liberty University, the evangelical institution, signed by Jerry Falwell (who died in 2007).
Lil Nas X even weaponized, meekly, the media outlets that would have given him breathless coverage regardless. The @popcrave X account shared staged red carpet footage of the celebrity doppelgängers from his video shouting his praises as if it were real. Official Spotify accounts posted “LNX is back with more mid-music 🤷♂️” — he’s trolling the critics in advance.
Call it what you want: a statement of fact, a statement of defiance, a statement of indifference. But really it’s just a cheap LOL, and a place for Lil Nas X defenders to aggregate. But all this attention farming must be tiring. During his last rollout, Lil Nas X spent loads of time on Twitter dunking on adversaries. Now, he’s doing much less of that, while sprinkling in the exasperation of the misunderstood: “since i’m a troll y’all discount my art as just ‘pissing ppl off,’” he wrote before “J Christ” was released.
In a self-filmed four-minute video posted across all his social media on Monday, he paced and spoke seemingly extemporaneously about some of the backlash he’s received for his playful manipulation of religious imagery and themes. The Grammy-winning Christian rapper Lecrae said on X, “if God can transform King Neb, murders, slave masters, sex workers, etc. he can add another Blasphemer to the list.” And the antic Twitch streamer Kai Cenat fumed, “God gonna handle you, bro.”
These are deep-sigh, predictable responses to deep-sigh, predictable jokes. But in his response video, it would seem Lil Nas X is taking critiques like these seriously. At one point, he apologizes for some of his specific bits, even while confessing that he doesn’t fully understand the imagery he was referencing.
That said, the most powerful aspect of the clip is the anticipation that he might break character at any moment. Is this simply part of the bit, a setup for the next meme? Is he going to end up sitting down with Cenat for a debate about God, or do a saint-sinner duet with Lecrae?
As he’s walking, Lil Nas X’s selfie camera returns again and again to a shelf with a pair of goofy yellow boots, a collaboration between Crocs and the unbearable meme brand MSCHF (his partner on last cycle’s Satan Shoes). Even in what’s meant to be his most earnest moment, the jester is just around the corner — it’s almost impossible to convey gravity when your sincerest form of expression is mockery.
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Post by omieethehomieee on Jan 17, 2024 15:14:29 GMT -5
bat1990 Here’s the full article: More than any working pop star, Lil Nas X understands how music is consumed in the contemporary landscape: in pieces, in memes, in reaction videos, in snippets of audio used to soundtrack get-ready-with-me clips on social media. In intimations and nudges. In discourse that may or may not have much to do with said music at all. And so for Lil Nas X, a song is a pretense. He is less a rapper or a singer than a meme maker with a seven-figure budget. Music is the fourth or fifth most important part of his presentation, the foundation for missives on X (formerly Twitter), TikToks and Instagram posts that matter as much, and probably more. Or, as the hook of his new single “J Christ” muses: “Is he ’bout to give ’em something viral?” That would be the goal, of course, but the best viral content bubbles up unpolished from the ether, slightly awkward and just novel enough to astound. That’s what Lil Nas X made his name with. It is the story of “Old Town Road,” his breakout song, which went from TikTok curiosity to bar mitzvah anthem in just a few months in early 2019. The vexatious “J Christ” tries to reverse engineer that kind of success. It is planned virality, mood-boarded and line-itemed. First, it is a concept — Lil Nas X is returning — and only then, a visual narrative and a song to animate it. The result is stylish but not artistic, glossy but without shine, hyperstylized but lazy. Being the most clever pop star is much easier than being the most clever online comedian, and his tropes are wearing thin. In the video, which vividly and sometimes beautifully riffs on cheap shock, he is a Christ-ish figure — another comeback king! — dancing his way through various fields of evil in a lumpy sequel to a beloved original: “Montero (Call Me by Your Name),” Lil Nas X’s comically baroque single and video from 2021. In that playful and bizarre clip, he theatrically tussles with the temptations of new fame, culminating in giving a lap dance to Satan. It was refreshing, winking bacchanal — a whole idea. J Christ,” to the extent that it functions at all, works in bits. The video is merely a string of micro-shock vignettes, many of them a callback to his greatest hits (of two years ago): the Satan Shoes containing a drop of blood, the stripper pole to hell from the “Montero” video. He remakes the “Jesus crossing up Satan on a basketball court” meme. He ushers a flock of animals to a big boat. (That was Noah, but whatever.) In a promotional clip, he pounds his staff onto the ground and parts a huge body of water. (Moses, but who’s counting.) The video opens, for unclear reasons, with celebrity impersonators of Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Ed Sheeran, Kanye West and more lined up at heaven’s gate. This conceit, too, is recycled — either from the nearest Madame Tussauds, or from West’s 2016 “Famous” video, a far more titillating and genuine transgression. Each of these micro jokes functions like a jump scare — just unexpected enough to elicit a tiny gasp. But underneath, there’s little scaffolding. They’re punchlines designed to be clipped and denatured of meaning. The lyrics are empty, too — only the grating, nasal, syllable-extending assonance rhyming “vi-i-i-ral”/“hi-i-i-gh” has any stickiness. (It should be said that the video is a small triumph of wardrobe: striped sweat socks under cowboy boots paired with a sheer wrap, a pink cheerleader outfit, a bejeweled headpiece that bisects the face vertically. The haute-camp styling is the most conceptually rigorous thing here.) Record labels are increasingly in the content business, and by that metric, Lil Nas X is the platonic ideal of a star. Imagine the meetings involving artists who are less comfortable with the camera, less self-aware, less fluent with algorithmic distribution. Imagine musicians who simply wish to play music. Lil Nas X cannot. “yall mind if i enter my christian era?” he asked on Instagram a few weeks ago, in a caption to a video in which he sang a folk-gospel song more elegant than anything he’s thus far released. On TikTok, he wolfed down communion wafers. He posted a mock acceptance letter from Liberty University, the evangelical institution, signed by Jerry Falwell (who died in 2007). Lil Nas X even weaponized, meekly, the media outlets that would have given him breathless coverage regardless. The @popcrave X account shared staged red carpet footage of the celebrity doppelgängers from his video shouting his praises as if it were real. Official Spotify accounts posted “LNX is back with more mid-music 🤷♂️” — he’s trolling the critics in advance. Call it what you want: a statement of fact, a statement of defiance, a statement of indifference. But really it’s just a cheap LOL, and a place for Lil Nas X defenders to aggregate. But all this attention farming must be tiring. During his last rollout, Lil Nas X spent loads of time on Twitter dunking on adversaries. Now, he’s doing much less of that, while sprinkling in the exasperation of the misunderstood: “since i’m a troll y’all discount my art as just ‘pissing ppl off,’” he wrote before “J Christ” was released. In a self-filmed four-minute video posted across all his social media on Monday, he paced and spoke seemingly extemporaneously about some of the backlash he’s received for his playful manipulation of religious imagery and themes. The Grammy-winning Christian rapper Lecrae said on X, “if God can transform King Neb, murders, slave masters, sex workers, etc. he can add another Blasphemer to the list.” And the antic Twitch streamer Kai Cenat fumed, “God gonna handle you, bro.” These are deep-sigh, predictable responses to deep-sigh, predictable jokes. But in his response video, it would seem Lil Nas X is taking critiques like these seriously. At one point, he apologizes for some of his specific bits, even while confessing that he doesn’t fully understand the imagery he was referencing. That said, the most powerful aspect of the clip is the anticipation that he might break character at any moment. Is this simply part of the bit, a setup for the next meme? Is he going to end up sitting down with Cenat for a debate about God, or do a saint-sinner duet with Lecrae? As he’s walking, Lil Nas X’s selfie camera returns again and again to a shelf with a pair of goofy yellow boots, a collaboration between Crocs and the unbearable meme brand MSCHF (his partner on last cycle’s Satan Shoes). Even in what’s meant to be his most earnest moment, the jester is just around the corner — it’s almost impossible to convey gravity when your sincerest form of expression is mockery.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on Jan 17, 2024 16:19:36 GMT -5
I feel he doesn't have to shock the audience anymore.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jan 17, 2024 17:19:44 GMT -5
I feel he doesn't have to shock the audience anymore. LNX actually moved from a legit 'One Hit Wonder' to a hitmaker. Too bad he didn't realize that.
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Post by Anticonformity on Jan 18, 2024 1:10:57 GMT -5
I feel he doesn't have to shock the audience anymore. LNX actually moved from a legit 'One Hit Wonder' to a hitmaker. Too bad he didn't realize that. I wonder what changed as I feel like based on his unreleased he definetley realized that... like confident etc... in his achievements...
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Post by daniel1784 on Jan 18, 2024 10:35:45 GMT -5
my god, no wonder youtube tried to hide dislike ratios.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Jan 18, 2024 11:38:28 GMT -5
I finally watched the video and...yeah, he needs a new shtick or else. I never saw him as an artist with longevity anyway, but still.
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