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Post by daniel1784 on Jan 21, 2024 17:56:59 GMT -5
Title. Just what are some songs that became bigger than the song they sampled.
For example:
David Guetta feat. Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) (2021)
Nicki Minaj feat. Lil Uzi Vert - Everybody (2024)
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Post by 312999 on Jan 22, 2024 15:26:43 GMT -5
I disagree with both of them. Both of the originals of those songs were all very big hits too.
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Post by Az Paynter on Jan 22, 2024 16:18:25 GMT -5
I'm also inclined to disagree with both. It's too soon to say anything about Nicki vs. Junior Senior, but I also wonder what's your scope for 'I'm Good' being bigger than the original 'Blue'. Having lived through the original, there's no way the Guetta/Bebe song was bigger.
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Post by daniel1784 on Jan 22, 2024 16:44:02 GMT -5
what's your scope for 'I'm Good' being bigger than the original 'Blue'. Having lived through the original, there's no way the Guetta/Bebe song was bigger. "Blue" was probably the bigger song in Europe and Australia, but at least in the US, I'm Good hit #1, while Blue peaked at #3. |
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Post by elementd5 on Jan 22, 2024 19:20:50 GMT -5
what's your scope for 'I'm Good' being bigger than the original 'Blue'. Having lived through the original, there's no way the Guetta/Bebe song was bigger. "Blue" was probably the bigger song in Europe and Australia, but at least in the US, I'm Good hit #1, while Blue peaked at #3. But chart peaks don’t tell everything. Blue is way more known culturally as a song, I’m sure and will be more remembered again in five years tops. Unless you mean bigger during their peak moment? |
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Post by kluen on Jan 24, 2024 4:19:05 GMT -5
5 O'clock (T-Pain featuring Wiz Khalifa and Lily Allen) is bigger than Who'd Have Known（Lily Allen） which the song has sampled
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Jan 24, 2024 14:09:49 GMT -5
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Post by Willow Rinadoobee Breakfast on Jan 24, 2024 14:22:14 GMT -5
Counting actual songs rather than instrumentals:
Crazy In Love
Gangsta’s Paradise (even if it’s source comes from what is considered among the greatest albums ever)
It Was A Good Day (Big Poppa is a bit more debatable with Isley Brothers
Nuthin But A G Thang
Hips Don’t Lie
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Post by johnm1120 on Jan 24, 2024 17:30:39 GMT -5
"Move Your Feet" was essentially a dance hit and in some markets but wasn't a huge hit in any sense.
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Post by johnm1120 on Jan 24, 2024 21:15:51 GMT -5
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned
Mariah Carey - Fantasy
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Post by daniel1784 on Jan 24, 2024 21:35:04 GMT -5
"Blue" was probably the bigger song in Europe and Australia, but at least in the US, I'm Good hit #1, while Blue peaked at #3. But chart peaks don’t tell everything. Blue is way more known culturally as a song, I’m sure and will be more remembered again in five years tops. Unless you mean bigger during their peak moment? Yeah, true. If we count songs bigger but only during their peak moment, we could count Nicki Minaj, Ice Spice & Aqua's "Barbie World" which peaked #1 at mediabase, and #7 on the Hot 100. "Barbie Girl" also peaked at #7 on the Billboard Hot 100, but only #15 on the mainstream top 40. And, speaking of Nicki Minaj, what about "Super Freaky Girl" which peaked at #1 on the Hot 100 compared to Rick James' "Superfreak" which only peaked at #16? Would Super Freaky Girl be a song that was genuinely bigger all around than Superfreak, or only during their peak? |
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jan 24, 2024 22:13:46 GMT -5
Songs can be bigger hits that don’t necessarily translate into any sort of cultural impact or enter the pop culture zeitgeist or anything like that. Nicki’s “Barbie” might technically be a bigger hit than Aqua’s but it’ll never surpass its impact. The two aren’t mutually exclusive and impact probably isn’t measurable.
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Post by Night Senses on Jan 25, 2024 14:51:25 GMT -5
Change - The Glow of Love (1980)
Janet Jackson - All for You (2001)
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Post by mkarns on Jan 25, 2024 20:35:25 GMT -5
But chart peaks don’t tell everything. Blue is way more known culturally as a song, I’m sure and will be more remembered again in five years tops. Unless you mean bigger during their peak moment? Yeah, true. If we count songs bigger but only during their peak moment, we could count Nicki Minaj, Ice Spice & Aqua's "Barbie World" which peaked #1 at mediabase, and #7 on the Hot 100. "Barbie Girl" also peaked at #7 on the Billboard Hot 100, but only #15 on the mainstream top 40. And, speaking of Nicki Minaj, what about "Super Freaky Girl" which peaked at #1 on the Hot 100 compared to Rick James' "Superfreak" which only peaked at #16? Would Super Freaky Girl be a song that was genuinely bigger all around than Superfreak, or only during their peak? In addition to “Super Freaky Girl”, MC Hammer’s “U Can’t Touch This” (#8 Hot 100, #1 Radio & Records CHR) sampled “Super Freak” and ultimately outcharted it. |
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Post by mkarns on Jan 25, 2024 20:36:49 GMT -5
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Mariah Carey - Fantasy And Latto’s “Big Energy” also sampled “Genius of Love” and charted higher. Doja Cat’s “Paint the Town Red” (#1) samples or interpolates Dionne Warwick’s “Walk On By” (#6). |
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Post by Glass Joe on Jan 26, 2024 19:26:02 GMT -5
Another Nicki Minaj hit, "Your Love" is definitely more popular than the song that it samples, which is "No More I Love You's" by Annie Lennox.
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Post by johnm1120 on Jan 29, 2024 1:59:57 GMT -5
Another Nicki Minaj hit, "Your Love" is definitely more popular than the song that it samples, which is "No More I Love You's" by Annie Lennox. I'd say Annie's rendition is the most universally well known. "Your Love" despite peaking higher kinda came and went. Annie also won a Grammy for her version. |
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Post by Janhova's Witness on Jan 29, 2024 4:24:38 GMT -5
Another Nicki Minaj hit, "Your Love" is definitely more popular than the song that it samples, which is "No More I Love You's" by Annie Lennox. I'd say Annie's rendition is the most universally well known. "Your Love" despite peaking higher kinda came and went. Annie also won a Grammy for her version. Period What clown is coming in next? Super Freaky Barbie? |
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Post by daniel1784 on Jan 29, 2024 20:56:03 GMT -5
Cascada's "Everytime We Touch" is almost universally more well known and notable than the original Maggie Reilly song of the same name. In fact, I didn't even know that original song existed until today.
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Post by Juanca on Jan 29, 2024 22:55:45 GMT -5
Cascada's "Everytime We Touch" is almost universally more well known and notable than the original Maggie Reilly song of the same name. In fact, I didn't even know that original song existed until today. Great example!! A couple others I remember: Boadicea by Enya (1987) Vs I don’t wanna know by Mario Winans feat P Diddy & Enya (2004) -and of course Creepin’ Zamina Mina by Golden Sounds (1986) Vs Waka Waka by Shakira feat Freshlyground (2010) Supersonic by J J Fad (1988) Vs Fergalicious by Fergie (2006) Hide and Seek by Imogen Heap (2005) Vs Whatcha Say by Jason de Rulo (2009) Ain’t No Stopping Us Now by McFadden & Whitehead (1979) whose bassline was used in Ma Quale Idea by Pino D’Angio (1981), whose tune was sampled in global hit Don’t Call me Baby by Madison Avenue (1999) |
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Jan 30, 2024 7:30:49 GMT -5
Loca con su tiguere by El Cata (2008)
VS Loca by Shakira (2010)
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Post by avamaxstan on Feb 12, 2024 11:47:40 GMT -5
People comparing Hot 100 peaks (decades apart) to determine which song is bigger, I have to cackle.
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Post by omieethehomieee on Feb 12, 2024 12:38:13 GMT -5
Exactly. There’s a clear difference between chart positions and cultural impact. Within in the last couple of years artists have over and over sampled songs trying to get a hit and the song they sampled remains iconic and impactful.
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Post by omieethehomieee on Feb 12, 2024 12:43:19 GMT -5
“Big Ol Freak” By Megan thee Stallion samples “Is it Love this Time” by Immature.
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Post by Dylan :) on Feb 13, 2024 11:56:49 GMT -5
Songs can be bigger hits that don’t necessarily translate into any sort of cultural impact or enter the pop culture zeitgeist or anything like that. Nicki’s “Barbie” might technically be a bigger hit than Aqua’s but it’ll never surpass its impact. The two aren’t mutually exclusive and impact probably isn’t measurable. Especially the points needed to be at a chart position one week =/= the points needed at another week. A song could go #1 in a very weak week, while another song can be stronger in points and miss the top 10 another week. Also, you need to consider things like longevity. It isn’t as simple as X peaked at #1 and Y peaked at #2 so X is bigger |
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Post by rainie on Feb 14, 2024 17:33:01 GMT -5
did anyone mention lovin on me by jack harlow vs the obscureish dance track it sampled ?
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Post by rihannabiggestfan on Mar 3, 2024 19:57:37 GMT -5
Another Nicki Minaj hit, "Your Love" is definitely more popular than the song that it samples, which is "No More I Love You's" by Annie Lennox. I'd say Annie's rendition is the most universally well known. "Your Love" despite peaking higher kinda came and went. Annie also won a Grammy for her version. Plus global "No More I Love You's" peaked higher than that local song with awful vocals in literally every other country than the US |
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