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Post by Juan Carlos on Feb 9, 2024 5:00:10 GMT -5
Artist: Beyoncé Single: "Texas Hold 'Em" Writers: Beyoncé Knowles, Brian Bates, Elizabeth Lowell Boland, Megan Bülow, Nate Ferraro and Raphael Saadiq Label: Parkwood Entertainment, Columbia Records and Columbia Nashville Impact Date: February 20, 2024
Lead single from Renaissance: Act II due out March 29. The track, which was released alongside "16 Carriages" on February 11, impacts Country on February 20.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Feb 13, 2024 23:35:45 GMT -5
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Post by raylatch98 on Feb 13, 2024 23:40:16 GMT -5
I doubt this does much beyond curiosity spins. But I would love if this somehow charted on the country radio chart.
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Post by jab820 on Feb 14, 2024 0:08:45 GMT -5
"16 Carriages" is the far superior country song to me. I don't think radio will play this and I would also like them to surprise me with doing so anyhow. But, they have outright shut out Black women even when they have very radio friendly singles (Mickey Guyton, Tierra Kennedy, etc).
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Post by christianlarson9 on Feb 14, 2024 0:10:09 GMT -5
Bobby Bones tweeted that he's adding this to the iHeart Women of Country segment, so it should get a few hundred spins at least. I expect some interest from other stations too.
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Post by cousingerard on Feb 14, 2024 1:14:53 GMT -5
"Country Radio Has Been Slow To Play Beyonce's New Music"
Let's chill a little bit, billboard dot com, it just came out two days ago..
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Post by recordyear on Feb 14, 2024 3:15:03 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion but I don't understand the goal here. In fact I think Beyonce will lose her coolness if mainstream country radio does play her because the "cool" trend is not to be played on mainstream country radio despite making country or country-adjacent music (see Zach Bryan, Tyler Childers, Kacey Musgraves). Any country airplay should be a bonus but not a must for her/her fans to "prove it".
But beyhives cosplaying as republican fans as supposedly country radio fans on social media is funny.
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Post by shayonce on Feb 14, 2024 11:12:47 GMT -5
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Post by kluen on Feb 14, 2024 20:44:20 GMT -5
I like this song but I don’t think Beyonce could do what Mickey Guyton couldn’t. It’s very very hard for pop diva to cross over to country especially after betty,I bet you think about me,easy on me all failed these few years
But I still wish it could perform decently.
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Post by shayonce on Feb 15, 2024 7:44:15 GMT -5
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Post by christianlarson9 on Feb 15, 2024 7:45:06 GMT -5
If this charts this be the first time a solo black female has charted since Mickey Guyton in 2015?
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Post by shayonce on Feb 15, 2024 9:22:07 GMT -5
If this charts this be the first time a solo black female has charted since Mickey Guyton in 2015?
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Post by recordyear on Feb 15, 2024 9:49:46 GMT -5
^Dude the person you quoted is one-half of the admin of the account...
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 15, 2024 10:25:31 GMT -5
This is a must read:
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Post by jdanton2 on Feb 15, 2024 15:29:40 GMT -5
i wonder if there is a chance Beyonce does a remix of this with a popular Country singer to get an extra push at Country radio.
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Feb 15, 2024 16:01:20 GMT -5
i wonder if there is a chance Beyonce does a remix of this with a popular Country singer to get an extra push at Country radio. It would be a dream to me: Miranda Lambert
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Post by gardyfan on Feb 15, 2024 20:34:36 GMT -5
How about a remix that makes it sound country? So out of place on the radio IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2024 20:50:15 GMT -5
How about a remix that makes it sound country? So out of place on the radio IMO. For real. So basically this song is country why? Because Beyoncé/ her record label say so?
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Post by zdm1998 on Feb 15, 2024 20:59:37 GMT -5
How about a remix that makes it sound country? So out of place on the radio IMO. For real. So basically this song is country why? Because Beyoncé/ her record label say so? I mean that’s what happens with Wallen/HARDY/Sam Hunt and a good number of other white dudes that have released straight up pop/R&B/Rap songs. And I say this has more country elements than a number of things they’ve tried to pass as country…
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Post by gardyfan on Feb 15, 2024 21:37:38 GMT -5
For real. So basically this song is country why? Because Beyoncé/ her record label say so? I mean that’s what happens with Wallen/HARDY/Sam Hunt and a good number of other white dudes that have released straight up pop/R&B/Rap songs. And I say this has more country elements than a number of things they’ve tried to pass as country… I don't disagree with that at all. But in this case when a song is so bad it makes me want to listen to Dan + Shay (who also fit in that group of artists) then a song is really terrible.
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Post by SHOOTER on Feb 15, 2024 22:46:29 GMT -5
What exactly makes this not a Country song?
Details please. I’ll wait.
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Post by shayonce on Feb 16, 2024 5:00:14 GMT -5
The Country Format Is Bullish on Beyoncé’s ‘Texas Hold ‘Em,’ Top Radio Execs Say “Why wouldn’t we play this? This is a gift,” says Brian Philips, chief content officer at Cumulus Media, who just oversaw a Zoom call Wednesday with programmers at the chain’s major country stations, during which he said everyone spoke enthusiastically about “Texas.” “It was like, ‘How can we not give this a try?’ This adds a completely unforeseen, unimagined new angle to country radio. We’ll get calls, we’ll get response, and some of the old school (listeners) will probably reject it and then everybody else will love it, and that’ll be the outcome. We have 55 major country stations and it’s very hard to get them to agree on anything. But everybody at country wants to play it. We don’t have guys who are like, ‘It doesn’t fit our core sound.’ We have people who want to be part of the story and they’re all gonna do the same thing: play it and talk it up and get all the negative and all the positive out of the audience and see what the reaction is. It sounds like a really simple, catchy, hit pop-country song to me.” iHeartMedia is on board too. In a statement provided to Variety, Tom Poleman, the chain’s chief programming officer & president, says, “Beyoncé is an innovator who continues to push the creative boundaries in music. Many of our country and Top 40 programmers began playing the new single earlier this week, and now that it’s officially rolled out, we’re excited to share her new song with our listeners across the country, including the entire iHeartCountry platform.” Audacy’s Tim Roberts, VP of programming and country format captain, also provided a statement, saying, “We think it’s a good record, and country is so popular right now, it’s great that she wants to be here. Just like we do with any song on our playlist, now the listeners will decide.” Sony Nashville did begin that promotional push to the format late Tuesday, after the song had gotten an official push to pop stations. Some say they were bullish on the tune before getting the promotional Batsignal. “It didn’t matter to me that they didn’t ship it” right off the bat, says Philips. “Everything’s ubiquitous, everything’s available. I don’t care who services what; I go on the internet and there it is — that means I’ve been serviced, if I can find a WAV file! I don’t care what their marketing plan is. If somebody at Sony made a miscalculation that country wouldn’t be interested in this, that was a mistake. It just sounded to me like it hit that Dixie Chicks chord of kind of fun, hand-clapping reckless abandon, and it just sounded like a natural country song to me. I’ll be very surprised if there’s any backlash, except from very old, calcified country fans who say, ‘Well, I came here to hear a George Strait song, not this hand-clapping, woo-woo-woo business.’ “If the audience rejects it, we’ll know. But we can’t imagine that, because everybody we’ve played the song for has liked it. My job is to break down this idea that country programmers are gatekeepers who keep things away from people that they might otherwise like, because that could not be further from the truth. We’re gonna hit it hard and fast and see what the reaction is. In top 40, it’s called a reaction record, where you say, ‘Look, just put this on the air and see what happens,’ and that’s where we are.” SiriusXM’s country stations have been on top of it. Says Johnny Chiang, SiriusXM Pandora‘s senior director of country programming, “When I first heard that there was a possibility of Beyoncé dropping a country song, a real country song, I was stoked. She’s one of four or five artists worldwide that, when she speaks, you stop and listen. So on Sunday night during the Super Bowl, I was sitting there on my laptop on our backend system and kept hitting refresh, waiting for the song to drop. I immediately added to added the song to multiple Pandora country stations, and then we also played it on ‘The Highway’ for the first time Sunday night. Then the next morning, the morning show played it, and we immediately made it a full add on ‘The Highway,’ so it’s in full rotation.” Chiang sees only upside in a Beyoncé/country marriage. “First of all, it’s a good song, and a legit modern country song. And she’s iconic, so it’s a no brainer,” says the SiriusXM exec, who used to program a top country station in Beyoncé’s native Houston. “I can’t speak for the terrestrial country PDs, and I can imagine there will probably be some trepidation. But I think this is nothing but good for our format. Whether it is terrestrial or satellite or on the DSPs, the core country audience is still that 35-to-45-year-old soccer mom, and they don’t just listen to country, they listen to pop, where Beyoncé has a huge impact. So why wouldn’t it work?” Chiang continues, “Over the past 10, 15 years, country has evolved into one of the most diverse-sounding genres out there. Hell, probably our highest-profile male artist in country today is Jelly Roll. Everyone knows his background — hip-hop, with the face tats — and he’s embraced. So why not Beyoncé? With ‘Texas Hold ‘Em,’ if you didn’t know it was Beyoncé and you just heard it, you’d think it sounds pretty country compared to some of the other stuff that’s in the genre today.” One programmer thinks “Texas Hold Em” will go over better in country than in the superstar’s native formats. “The Top 40s don’t know what to do with it because their audience doesn’t know how to react to it. Which makes sense,” says the programmer. “So they’re the ones who should be written about as having a quandary.” Philips says genre distinctions matter less to the average listener than ever, whatever the format, including the traditionally more provincial country. “We’ve all have all this doctrine and dogma that comes with country, and I think a lot of those layers are getting stripped away with the new consumer, who simply doesn’t have any concept of why one thing doesn’t belong with the other. Beyoncé fits in the world of most 18-to-49-year-olds. And if she comes with a catchy country song, why should there be a social standoff about what to do about it? I’m not sure (the idea of resistance) isn’t a little bit of a tempest in a teapot, at least from the standpoint of Cumulus.” In the country format, it typically takes several months for a song to become a top 10 hit; stations may show their cards (as it were) on “Texas Hold ‘Em” with less of a lag time. With real playlist additions for Beyoncé just starting to come in from reporting stations as of Thursday, prevailing winds may become apparent by the time the tipsheets’ add charts are published next week. variety.com/2024/music/news/beyonce-country-format-radio-bullish-texas-hold-em-1235913252/
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Post by shayonce on Feb 16, 2024 5:14:56 GMT -5
Beyoncé Has Always Been Country But in the days since their release, Black-led and founded country organizations such as The Black Opry have received a significant increase in followers, banjo player Rhiannon Giddens, a long-time advocate and public educator of the banjo’s African roots, featured on “Texas Hold ‘Em”, and steel guitarist Robert Randolph, a master of his craft who is heard on “16 Carriages”, are experiencing the Beyoncé effect. Adia Victoria. Amri Unplugged, Brittney Spencer, Mickey Guyton, Reyna Roberts, Rissi Palmer, Sacha, Tanner Adell, and other Black talents in the country music space are being shared across digital and social media platforms. time.com/6694806/beyonce-country-music/Will country radio play Beyoncé’s new songs? Station managers weigh in Travis Moon, the program manager for 93Q Country in Beyoncé’s hometown Houston, says he’s “all-in” on “Texas Hold ‘Em.” “We're playing right now. We’re actually the first station in America to officially add the song,” he tells EW. Moon’s enthusiasm stems from the quality of the track rather than the singer’s stardom. “Am I going at this going, ‘Hey, I want to convert every Beyoncé fan to love country music?’ That's not why I'm doing this,” he explains. “I added the song because it's a great song, and I'm excited because it just sounds so freaking good on the radio. And if there are some of her fans who listen to the song on my radio station that like some other songs, that's actually good for my station.” Moon can’t get enough of the “Texas Hold ‘Em” sound. “There's nothing like it… a lot of times you get country songs and they fit in a certain vibe and there's a formula. This is a fresh sound that I'm really excited about,” he explains. “Just the way the song is constructed, the vocals are amazing, the instrumentation's fantastic. It fits the vibe of what we're doing on this radio station, and I'm really, really excited and curious to see how listeners are going to react to the song. I think they're really going to react positively.” Even those taking a more measured approach, like Mike Levine of Go Country 105 in Los Angeles, are still excited about Beyoncé’s new music. “The new single sounds great,” he says. “We will probably be able to play it like one or two times this week just to sample it, but I won't know until about a month or so, once we start looking at programming again, just to see how the data is on it, and if it's something we add to our regular programming or not.” The radio managers are optimistic about the singer’s potential to convert the Beyhive into country fans. “Anything to make country more approachable is amazing, so it's fantastic,” Levine says. And Moon thinks the fan crossover will also move in the other direction, too. “I haven't spent a lot of time with Beyoncé’s music personally, so it is going to open up a different audience to her music,” he explains. “I think it just goes both ways where this is exciting not just for country radio, but for the artist and the legacy that she's done in her entire career.” ew.com/will-country-radio-play-beyonce-new-songs-station-managers-weigh-in-8582008"Massive artists like Beyoncé bringing out country music, it's just going to open the floodgates for us," UK country artist Kezia Gill tells BBC Newsbeat. Kezia, from Derby, feels Beyoncé's presence can make the genre "accessible to everyone". Roisin O'Connor, music editor at The Independent, thinks Beyoncé's new music could be "a tipping point" for country music. "Given Beyoncé's status as one of the biggest artists on the planet, this could fully engage the UK in country," she says. "I guess you could say it's a final frontier. It's probably the one genre that the UK hasn't quite grasped yet. "There are plenty of country music fans in the UK, but I think in terms of radio play, it's not something you tend to hear as much." www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-68289785
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Post by theoutsider on Feb 16, 2024 5:58:10 GMT -5
This is what can happen to Country Music after the Toby Keith death
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Post by balletgirlmom on Feb 16, 2024 7:40:33 GMT -5
Beyonce did a great job. I am not a country fan but love these songs and that is a good thing.
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Post by shayonce on Feb 16, 2024 8:05:19 GMT -5
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Post by nuggie99 on Feb 16, 2024 9:04:46 GMT -5
I need to give it a couple of more listens and here it on the radio and no Apple music before giving a final opinion, but after a couple of listens:
Bad: The opening instrumental and the instruments in general sounds kinda.. shallow? Curious if the are digitally created or live and how much filtering is on them. Also sounds like if Beast Boy and Cyborg were going into a country place on Teen Titans Go. Explicit tag. I don't like when Morgan Wallen or Zach Bryan or anyone else does it. Don't like it here either.
Good: After the first verse it gets a lot more country. The harmonies and call backs are really nice.
Not sure yet: This ain't Texas, WOOO! I'll need a couple more listens to decide about the woos. Need to hear how the radio plays the profanities.
So far, it's a little poppy for me, but not out of line with some the other stuff we call country today. Better than Trailer Park Barbie, not as good as Luke Combs (the song, not the dude).
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Post by SHOOTER on Feb 16, 2024 13:35:41 GMT -5
Bad: The opening instrumental and the instruments in general sounds kinda.. shallow? Curious if the are digitally created or live and how much filtering is on them. The instruments are live, including banjo and viola played by the legendary Rhiannon Giddens.
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Post by nuggie99 on Feb 16, 2024 13:43:05 GMT -5
Bad: The opening instrumental and the instruments in general sounds kinda.. shallow? Curious if the are digitally created or live and how much filtering is on them. The instruments are live, including banjo and viola played by the legendary Rhiannon Giddens. Thanks, I'll have to see if it sounds better on FM through the truck speakers than Apple Music through the earbuds.
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Post by countryfan43 on Feb 16, 2024 14:56:03 GMT -5
I’m going to pass on Beyoncé joining country music. I wish her the best in other genres but no thanks in country music.
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