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Post by Ironically Ironic on Jun 6, 2005 1:15:50 GMT -5
Riiigghht. You may think so but youre one of the few. Someone who is so called "trashy" doesnt get all the recognition she got. Singing the National Anthem, grammys, 46664 with Nelson Mandela, and a lot more. And you know that I'm one of the few because you are supposed to be the know it all authority in all things Beyonce? LOL. How many photos with her butt showing were swarming around the internet during that era? There were also a few pictures of her pubes showing as well. She got recognition because she was the "it" black girl for the time being. Nothing more, nothing less. She will never be an icon because her music is flavor of the minute and like her counterpart J Lo she gets by on image alone. The only photos were if she was performing and getting into it. It wasnt like she took a picture naked. And the hot artist of the month dont get the recognition she got. I dont see Nelson Mandela or the superbowl asking no "just it person" to do something that was so up there. She was on Oprah 2 times during the DIL era. "It" people JUST dont go on no Oprah 2 times. Bono, Stevie Wonder, Patti Labelle, and even Marah(since this board love he so much) has praised her. She was on the Essence cover with Mary J and Janet. I dont see JLo doing that(since Beyoncé is so much like her). Beyoncé has received so many "important" awards and not just BET or MTV. She received the APEX award at the Trumpet Award, ASCAP award, and many more. Beyoncé is here to STAY.
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Post by bengino on Jun 6, 2005 10:33:10 GMT -5
let's put all DC singles as Beyonce ONLY singles and let's see if they are as successful, then we can talk. Just because she has had massive success with a group does not mean she is the group, and her album might have been decent, but at least half her material wasn't even impressive.
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Post by MakeUCreamMyDream on Jun 6, 2005 13:39:13 GMT -5
And you know that I'm one of the few because you are supposed to be the know it all authority in all things Beyonce? LOL. How many photos with her butt showing were swarming around the internet during that era? There were also a few pictures of her pubes showing as well. She got recognition because she was the "it" black girl for the time being. Nothing more, nothing less. She will never be an icon because her music is flavor of the minute and like her counterpart J Lo she gets by on image alone. The only photos were if she was performing and getting into it. It wasnt like she took a picture naked. And the hot artist of the month dont get the recognition she got. I dont see Nelson Mandela or the superbowl asking no "just it person" to do something that was so up there. She was on Oprah 2 times during the DIL era. "It" people JUST dont go on no Oprah 2 times. Bono, Stevie Wonder, Patti Labelle, and even Marah(since this board love he so much) has praised her. She was on the Essence cover with Mary J and Janet. I dont see JLo doing that(since Beyoncé is so much like her). Beyoncé has received so many "important" awards and not just BET or MTV. She received the APEX award at the Trumpet Award, ASCAP award, and many more. Beyoncé is here to STAY. I am not going to get really deep in to an debate with you because you just became a Beyonce fan recently. I don't care what magazine covers she had- an icon that does not make. If you were a Beyonce fan back during the days of the ORIGINAL Destinys Child, like I was because I will always be a Kelly Ro fan, you would see that Beyonce's image changed and not for the better. You don't have to be naked to be slutty- Beyonce proved that. Technically J LO has accomplished much more than Beyonce and has a wider appeal so if anything Beyonce should be looking up to her counterpart. I stand firm in saying Beyonce is a J Lo who can sing but not dance.
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Post by Ironically Ironic on Jun 6, 2005 18:27:42 GMT -5
The only photos were if she was performing and getting into it. It wasnt like she took a picture naked. And the hot artist of the month dont get the recognition she got. I dont see Nelson Mandela or the superbowl asking no "just it person" to do something that was so up there. She was on Oprah 2 times during the DIL era. "It" people JUST dont go on no Oprah 2 times. Bono, Stevie Wonder, Patti Labelle, and even Marah(since this board love he so much) has praised her. She was on the Essence cover with Mary J and Janet. I dont see JLo doing that(since Beyoncé is so much like her). Beyoncé has received so many "important" awards and not just BET or MTV. She received the APEX award at the Trumpet Award, ASCAP award, and many more. Beyoncé is here to STAY. I am not going to get really deep in to an debate with you because you just became a Beyonce fan recently. I don't care what magazine covers she had- an icon that does not make. If you were a Beyonce fan back during the days of the ORIGINAL Destinys Child, like I was because I will always be a Kelly Ro fan, you would see that Beyonce's image changed and not for the better. You don't have to be naked to be slutty- Beyonce proved that. Technically J LO has accomplished much more than Beyonce and has a wider appeal so if anything Beyonce should be looking up to her counterpart. I stand firm in saying Beyonce is a J Lo who can sing but not dance. I really did not become a Beyonce fan. I was a fan since Bills Bills Bills and DEFINATELY Surivor. But I didnt like start postin on the messageboards and lookin up stuff about her until the DIL era. But whatever. I dont feel like haveing no debate either. PEACE.
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Post by babyboylrtm on Jun 7, 2005 11:33:07 GMT -5
I don't think Beyonce is an icon, her album sold only 4 million and was pure trash. She has no records, no big hit movies, just 4 good singles. Destiny's Child is an icon; as a group, but none of them are icons as individual singers.
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Post by MakeUCreamMyDream on Jun 7, 2005 18:14:10 GMT -5
I don't think Beyonce is an icon, her album sold only 4 million and was pure trash. She has no records, no big hit movies, just 4 good singles. Destiny's Child is an icon; as a group, but none of them are icons as individual singers. I totally agree!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 8, 2005 9:01:12 GMT -5
LAWDY LAWDY- again, we have people who simplydon't want to face the facts about Madonna. It's great that most people recognize what is, but there always will be those ones that make you SYH.
Madonna wasn't interested in simply being a successful pop star- she had a lot to say, and she used music as one medium in which to it. At the same time, the music she made was blueprint pop, and is the templaye for which most others are compared.
Madonna is the type of icon for which there aren't many on a comparable level. There are infinite amounts of articles and books analyzing and interpreting her work- this is not the case for other females, obviously. That's what happens when one challenges mores of the societal, gender, religious, and sexual more, among others.
There are other pop culture icons, obviously, but where acts like Elvis, the Beatle,s Madonna, Michael Jackson, etc. are- those are levels unlikely to be reached by anyone else.
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Post by MakeUCreamMyDream on Jun 8, 2005 18:19:56 GMT -5
There are other pop culture icons, obviously, but where acts like Elvis, the Beatle,s Madonna, Michael Jackson, etc. are- those are levels unlikely to be reached by anyone else. Especially a girl whose lyrics are childish drivel and whose claim to fame is making her booty shake. An overexposed media whore who can carry a tune and smiles real pretty in pictures? Yes. An ICON? Never. ;)
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Post by Ironically Ironic on Jun 8, 2005 21:16:23 GMT -5
Beyonce will become an icon. GIve her a chance. She only has one album and I even said shes not an icon now but she will be one later. Im not gon talk, Ima let Beyonce do it herself.
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Post by CadillacBroham on Jun 14, 2005 17:28:17 GMT -5
beyonce aint no icon. she a media made celebrity and none of her stuff even in the group is good
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jun 14, 2005 18:44:17 GMT -5
I don't know why would put Madonna in a class with Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson actually has talent and record sales. The Beatles actually have talent and record sales. Madonna is only 2nd to Mariah among female artists. She doesn't have the most #1 hits or the highest record sales and she's been popular for longer than her counter parts and released far and away more material than her counter parts yet still she's not the best selling.
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