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Post by NORTHCOAST on Aug 1, 2006 17:27:50 GMT -5
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Post by Lowe on Aug 1, 2006 18:37:12 GMT -5
Idk bout 90% of those albums but the "Massacre" bein in the top 15 RUINS IT!
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Post by jaxxalude on Aug 1, 2006 19:31:29 GMT -5
As someone who's spent his teen years in the 90s and his young adult life from then on, these are definitely important, iconic, influential, whatever, even if it doesn't mean I like them all.
These three are at a frontier between the above adjectives and simply great, outstanding albums.
These I like, but I really can't call apply the up-above adjectives to them. In some cases because there are more important albums by these artists; in others simply because they were already aligned with existing movements/trends, thus can't be considered iconic; others yet were more succesful than catalysts of important trends; and finally there are others which are simply great, but not significative.
This one may be important in some aspects, but I simply don't like them, and probably never will.
Just a quick note here: even though it's as essential as they get, Public Enemy's It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back is a 1988 album. Pre-1990, so. :)
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Post by MusicJunkie on Aug 1, 2006 19:40:54 GMT -5
50 Cent @ #13? That just ruined the list. Everything else was chosen well. That #1 isn't a surprise and I totally agree with it.
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Post by jaxxalude on Aug 1, 2006 19:43:20 GMT -5
50 Cent isn't out of place. It's the fact that the list compiler chose the wrong album to represent him.
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Post by drock89 on Aug 2, 2006 0:10:47 GMT -5
So I'm biased, but I do think "Come On Over" should have made this list somewhere, especially being the top selling album of the 1990s and since the 90s.
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Post by NORTHCOAST on Aug 2, 2006 6:32:00 GMT -5
So I'm biased, but I do think "Come On Over" should have made this list somewhere, especially being the top selling album of the 1990s and since the 90s. Funny you should say that because Come on Over was included on a list in OK Magazine (I think) of the worst records. I remember see that and thinking  . What jerks! |
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Post by jaxxalude on Aug 2, 2006 6:43:10 GMT -5
So I'm biased, but I do think "Come On Over" should have made this list somewhere, especially being the top selling album of the 1990s and since the 90s. What's one thing got to do with another? |
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Post by drock89 on Aug 2, 2006 12:36:07 GMT -5
So I'm biased, but I do think "Come On Over" should have made this list somewhere, especially being the top selling album of the 1990s and since the 90s. What's one thing got to do with another? I'm confused by this. I just figured seeing as its the biggest album to hit stores since 1990..plus it truly was a musical revolution that through country back into the mainstream and produced a brand new sound for the format. It also blew open doors for women in country music. It's definetly as much of a revolution as Brook's album, which was ranked quite low.. |
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Post by jaxxalude on Aug 2, 2006 13:44:39 GMT -5
What's one thing got to do with another? I'm confused by this. I just figured seeing as its the biggest album to hit stores since 1990..plus it truly was a musical revolution that through country back into the mainstream and produced a brand new sound for the format. It also blew open doors for women in country music. It's definetly as much of a revolution as Brook's album, which was ranked quite low.. Well, my point is that, musically speaking, she took Garth Brooks' and Tim McGraw's money, ran with it and made it an even more polished version out of it. And I guess you'll agree that by the time Come On Over was released, she sounded more pop than country anyway (and Up just confirmed that). As for the women in country, I might agree. But what did she spearhead? Gretchen Wilson? I, personally, don't think that's anything to write home about.  If you want to talk about influential and women in country, my choice would have been the Dixie Chicks' Wide Open Spaces. It also helped open doors for women in country, it sold a lot of copies but, more importantly, they really created, if not a new sound, at least a new country music paradigm, which is still very much alive, I think. |
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Post by drock89 on Aug 2, 2006 13:55:31 GMT -5
Gretchen? No..Gretchen wouldn't be in music without Shania's lead, but I would lean more towards Faith Hill for that answer.
And you are completely right about your assessment in the Chicks. Like I said, I'm biased. And maybe that album should be added to the list too.
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Post by jaxxalude on Aug 2, 2006 14:25:03 GMT -5
Well, looking again at this list, I sure will put U2's Achtung Baby! in the same category as Soundgarden's, Snoop's and Ice-T's albums.
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Post by Filthy Pop on Aug 2, 2006 15:47:39 GMT -5
Dreaming Of You should have been in there.
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Post by spooky21 on Aug 2, 2006 20:47:18 GMT -5
This was in the nineties? ???
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Post by tortuga on Aug 2, 2006 20:55:58 GMT -5
They probably meant some other album like "Aquenemi". 50 Cent is not 90s either.
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Post by friday on Aug 2, 2006 21:49:06 GMT -5
That's because the article is "Top 50 Albums of Our Time," not just the 90's. It generally seems to be the last twenty years or so.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 3, 2006 21:44:59 GMT -5
I just cannot agree with Nirvana being #1. Yes, they were "big" but they were so trendy IMO. By the late 90s, only "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was really any kind of Nirvana-memory for the mass bodies. Should they be on the list? Sure. But not #1.
I would have thought 50 Cent's FIRST album would be in the top 50, not the second one. *shrugs*
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Post by banet2001 on Aug 4, 2006 10:40:29 GMT -5
I am disappointed that there are not that many albums from female artists.
Neutral Milk Hotel deserves to be much higher than #48.
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Post by lollipopheaven on Aug 5, 2006 0:34:11 GMT -5
Where's baby one more time? If this list is based on the 90's then what the f*ck are albums from 2000 and onward doing on there?
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Post by John77 on Aug 5, 2006 23:05:43 GMT -5
Only about 15 of those 50 CD's even belong in any sort of "greatest list"... and what critics list would be complete without a Springsteen CD in it???... and surprise surprise... not even a single Mariah CD in there??? Only the top selling artist of the decade... no Shania either... hmmmm:
Those that belong at least in the top 100 or so:
1.Nirvana - Nevermind
4.Pearl Jam - Ten
5.Green Day - Dookie
8.U2- Achtung Baby
14.Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill
16.RHCP - Blood Sugar Sex Magick
17.Moby - Play
19.Matchbox 20 - Yourself or Someone Like You
20.Weezer - Weezer
21.R.E.M. - Automatic For The People
28.Soundgarden - Superunknown
33.Garth Brooks - No Fences (nice token Country CD just for credibility sake)
41.Counting Crows - August & Everything After
46.Sublime - Sublime
49.TLC - CrazySexyCool
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Post by John77 on Aug 5, 2006 23:06:54 GMT -5
So I'm biased, but I do think "Come On Over" should have made this list somewhere, especially being the top selling album of the 1990s and since the 90s. It should be in the top 5 at the very least... |
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Post by John77 on Aug 5, 2006 23:08:11 GMT -5
Dreaming Of You should have been in there. Agreed... Selena's great work should be in there somewhere... |
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Post by jaxxalude on Aug 6, 2006 5:53:34 GMT -5
and surprise surprise... not even a single Mariah CD in there??? Only the top selling artist of the decade Since when did sales = importance? Hootie & The Blowfish's Cracked Rear View may have sold gazillions, but tell me: was it really important? Did it spwan any important trend? Did it leave a lasting influence? No, no and no. |
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Post by jaxxalude on Aug 6, 2006 5:56:44 GMT -5
Only about 15 of those 50 CD's even belong in any sort of "greatest list"... and what critics list would be complete without a Springsteen CD in it???... and surprise surprise... not even a single Mariah CD in there??? Only the top selling artist of the decade... no Shania either... hmmmm: Those that belong at least in the top 100 or so: 1.Nirvana - Nevermind 4.Pearl Jam - Ten 5.Green Day - Dookie 8.U2- Achtung Baby 14.Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill 16.RHCP - Blood Sugar Sex Magick 17.Moby - Play 19.Matchbox 20 - Yourself or Someone Like You 20.Weezer - Weezer 21.R.E.M. - Automatic For The People 28.Soundgarden - Superunknown 33.Garth Brooks - No Fences (nice token Country CD just for credibility sake) 41.Counting Crows - August & Everything After 46.Sublime - Sublime 49.TLC - CrazySexyCool No Counting Crows or matchbox twenty album is more important than OK Computer, The Chronic, 36 Chambers or Ritual De Lo Habitual. No way, no chance. It's a fact, period. |
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Post by Chromeozone on Aug 6, 2006 9:48:43 GMT -5
LOL. I love it when people state their opinion and say it's fact. I actually agree with you, but it's bozo statements like that that ruin arguments.
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Post by Rumors on Aug 6, 2006 10:31:44 GMT -5
Only about 15 of those 50 CD's even belong in any sort of "greatest list"... and what critics list would be complete without a Springsteen CD in it???... and surprise surprise... not even a single Mariah CD in there??? Only the top selling artist of the decade... no Shania either... hmmmm: Those that belong at least in the top 100 or so: 1.Nirvana - Nevermind 4.Pearl Jam - Ten 5.Green Day - Dookie 8.U2- Achtung Baby 14.Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill 16.RHCP - Blood Sugar Sex Magick 17.Moby - Play 19.Matchbox 20 - Yourself or Someone Like You 20.Weezer - Weezer 21.R.E.M. - Automatic For The People 28.Soundgarden - Superunknown 33.Garth Brooks - No Fences (nice token Country CD just for credibility sake) 41.Counting Crows - August & Everything After 46.Sublime - Sublime 49.TLC - CrazySexyCool No Counting Crows or matchbox twenty album is more important than OK Computer, The Chronic, 36 Chambers or Ritual De Lo Habitual. No way, no chance. It's a fact, period. Radiohead is the most overrated band of the past 30 years. That's a fact. No actual it's just an opinion but so is yours. Rob Thomas is a legend in the making. |
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Post by jaxxalude on Aug 6, 2006 10:43:10 GMT -5
I'm waiting for someone to list me the lasting influence or the important trends Counting Crows or matchbox twenty spawned. ;)
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Post by jaxxalude on Aug 6, 2006 10:55:22 GMT -5
And another thing: my statements don't have anything to do with personal tastes. It's just to do with music history and knowledge. I can't say I'm a fan of Alanis or Garth Brooks, but I'm perfectly aware of not only the impact, but the importance and influence they had on much of the music that came after them. On the other hand, I quite like Counting Crows, but I just don't see their importance, impact or lasting influence on the music that came after them. Really.
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Post by MusicJunkie on Aug 6, 2006 19:23:46 GMT -5
... and surprise surprise... not even a single Mariah CD in there??? Only the top selling artist of the decade... no Shania either... hmmmm I'm not surprised in the least bit. Unless you're Madonna, pop/r&b divas don't really get that much critical acclaim. |
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Post by John77 on Aug 7, 2006 2:12:43 GMT -5
No Counting Crows or matchbox twenty album is more important than OK Computer, The Chronic, 36 Chambers or Ritual De Lo Habitual. No way, no chance. It's a fact, period. Radiohead is the most overrated band of the past 30 years. That's a fact. No actual it's just an opinion but so is yours. Rob Thomas is a legend in the making. Exactly... Radiohead has ONE good song in my opinion... just one... Rob Thomas on the other hand knows how to make music... he's actually talented... |
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