Bunifa Latifah Jackson
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Post by Bunifa Latifah Jackson on Nov 25, 2007 9:25:58 GMT -5
WOW Amerie gained SO MUCH MORE respect with me after that interview What an amazing interviewer aswell, GOOD that he asked JUST what we wanted to know and she gave him THE very honest answers we could only wish for!
Shame Crush is dead as she said .... she isnt doing any video or promo for it and she is right, its too late. Shame cause it is ANOTHER FAB song to get lost forever.
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Post by Kishi KCM on Nov 25, 2007 21:45:17 GMT -5
How has your label treated you?Er, you probably don’t even want to ask me that right now. That’s how I feel abut it. I personally love some of the people that work here in the UK; my publicist Shoshanna and Simon... but I really don’t want to talk about it cos I want to keep it all positive, you feel me? Well, it seems the album didn’t really perform as well as it should have?Cos they’re not pushing it like they should. Why aren’t they?We want to release Crush, but they feel there’s a lot going on. This is my thing; I’m an artist and this is not rocket science. Take Control was going good, so we knew we had to schedule the video for Gotta Work. But you need money to do a video, and by the time we got it cleared, it was late. They didn’t feel like that, but anybody with half a brain could see it was late. So then Gotta Work was going up, but it peaked and rapidly started coming down, so we knew we needed to do Crush. They said ‘Wait.’ I love the business and I studied the business and I told them we needed to do the other video, because you need to have another single when your other track is peaking. They’re talking about doing it next year, but I’m not doing it next year! So I don’t know what to tell you. I get that everyone’s filled with good intentions, but the road to perdition is filled with good intentions. There should have been no gaps. My favourite part of the interview. Love the honesty.
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Post by **βécky**™ on Nov 25, 2007 22:01:36 GMT -5
UPDATE
Amerie was pissed that Crush didn't come out October 22nd and was planning to just let it flop whenever the label decided to release it in 08 . BUT
Things have changed , the label gave her a video and now she is happy . Mostly because the label is serious about releasing the album in the US
The label wanted a NEW album because BILI is all over the net but Amerie wasn't for it . The compromise is that we are getting BILI with some of the old tracks but mostly new ones
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Post by Kishi KCM on Nov 26, 2007 9:32:48 GMT -5
^^ Thank you for the great news. :)
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Post by George on Nov 29, 2007 1:03:28 GMT -5
UPDATEAmerie was pissed that Crush didn't come out October 22nd and was planning to just let it flop whenever the label decided to release it in 08 . BUTThings have changed , the label gave her a video and now she is happy . Mostly because the label is serious about releasing the album in the US The label wanted a NEW album because BILI is all over the net but Amerie wasn't for it . The compromise is that we are getting BILI with some of the old tracks but mostly new ones I hope everything goes according to plan.
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on Nov 29, 2007 9:33:01 GMT -5
You can go to FYE and buy "Because i Love It" as an import. I saw this weekend.
Anyway, Amerie needs to just record a new album. "Because I Love It" isnt really that good with the exception of about 4 songs. Everything else can be trashed and she should be fortunate they are even bothering to let her record a new album instead of dropping her. She really has no bargaining chip.
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Post by d.t.m on Nov 29, 2007 17:54:53 GMT -5
You can go to FYE and buy "Because i Love It" as an import. I saw this weekend. Anyway, Amerie needs to just record a new album. "Because I Love It" isnt really that good with the exception of about 4 songs. Everything else can be trashed and she should be fortunate they are even bothering to let her record a new album instead of dropping her. She really has no bargaining chip. I actually think BILI is for the most part delectable 00's POP with a refreshing 80's twist. If anything the wrong singles were released. Slicing a few of the album tracks would make the LP much stronger.
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Post by SHOOTER on Nov 30, 2007 1:24:26 GMT -5
You can go to FYE and buy "Because i Love It" as an import. I saw this weekend. Anyway, Amerie needs to just record a new album. "Because I Love It" isnt really that good with the exception of about 4 songs. Everything else can be trashed and she should be fortunate they are even bothering to let her record a new album instead of dropping her. She really has no bargaining chip. This next album is her make-or-break; either Columbia will renew her contract or she'll become a free agent.
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Bunifa Latifah Jackson
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Post by Bunifa Latifah Jackson on Nov 30, 2007 8:12:03 GMT -5
Part of me wants her to be free from Columbia, she never had them putting any effort on making her suceed and she always came up on her own with her material and choosing her producers so I'm sure regarless of the place she's in, she will be still working on good material BUT being without a major label is a big issue and she already flops hard having a Columbia distrubition team, let alone her going indie. TOP500 smash album As for her recording a new album, I dont think BILI should be like, scrapped. I genuinely ADORE it and if she took off like 2 or 3 songs in there and put new ones that would be fine for me. I think its really consistent and the world should give it a try.
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Post by M on Nov 30, 2007 21:32:04 GMT -5
I think part of the problem that Amerie has right now is that she can't be pushed at either Pop or Urban. Her label needs to decide how to market her properly, before going ahead and releasing single after single. Seems like they just dropped the ball after 'Touch' didn't so hot last go around. Same again when 'Take Control' failed to make waves at Urban. Although she did start off at Urban, maybe she's better suited at Pop with BILI. I think part of the difficulty with BILI will be whether Pop play any of the stuff that's on there? I could see maybe 'Crush' or 'Make Me Believe', but not much else unfortunately.
I personally think BILI is a fantastic album, but it starts to go downhill after 'When Loving U Was Easy'. It's too bad that everyone's missing this awesome album. I was really hoping she would just blow everyone away with 'Take Control' and then 'Gotta Work'.
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Post by El Chiko Kevo on Nov 30, 2007 23:18:19 GMT -5
RUMOR IS AMERIE HAS BEEN DROPPED
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Post by George on Dec 1, 2007 15:52:26 GMT -5
It's too bad that everyone's missing this awesome album. I agree. "Crush", "Paint Me Over" and "Make Me Believe" are a couple of Amerie's greatest songs.
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Bunifa Latifah Jackson
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Post by Bunifa Latifah Jackson on Dec 1, 2007 16:46:57 GMT -5
RUMOR IS AMERIE HAS BEEN DROPPED Oh, dont even say this!
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 2, 2007 20:43:57 GMT -5
Can I get some sales figures for this album? A rough guesstimate, at least.
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Bunifa Latifah Jackson
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Post by Bunifa Latifah Jackson on Dec 4, 2007 7:27:41 GMT -5
110,000 at its maximum
She sold around 55,000 in the UK and if I'm not wrong, she did 35,000 in Japan Plus, she charted on the low branches of the TOP100 in several EU countries like Swiss, Ireland, Norway, where the market is pretty small and wont provide her sales bigger than 1,000 - 3,000 copies by that peak.
So at the very best 100 - 110k copies sold.
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Post by hardforit on Dec 8, 2007 18:33:38 GMT -5
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Post by hardforit on Dec 8, 2007 21:41:52 GMT -5
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Post by SAY IT RIGHT on Dec 9, 2007 0:49:45 GMT -5
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Bunifa Latifah Jackson
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Post by Bunifa Latifah Jackson on Dec 9, 2007 8:48:05 GMT -5
Girl keeps promoting yet she just CANT sell records. As much as I love her I have seriously lost hopes on her .... really
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Post by cbmc99 on Dec 9, 2007 16:53:13 GMT -5
^^I agree. She just can't sell records. However, she is looking REALLY good in those pictures and in the AXN commercial so props to her on keeping her image right.
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Post by hardforit on Dec 9, 2007 17:29:41 GMT -5
Y is everyone sounding so defeated ???
She is making moves in the right direction .
Fly Like Me already is getting pretty impressive radio & TV play and is already on the charts
plus she knows she can't release this album as it is and expect to sell (as its been on the net for months)
so she is heading in to the studio with pharell for the refurbished version of BILI
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Post by Bunifa Latifah Jackson on Dec 9, 2007 19:28:28 GMT -5
Y is everyone sounding so defeated ??? She is making moves in the right direction . Fly Like Me already is getting pretty impressive radio & TV play and is already on the charts plus she knows she can't release this album as it is and expect to sell (as its been on the net for months) so she is heading in to the studio with pharell for the refurbished version of BILI But Fly Like Me isnt an 'AMERIE' song. She is a featured artist, so whether it is HUGE or not, its not actually any big deal for her anyway... And you know, she will and can go back to studio millions of times that yet she wont sell records. I mean, I LOVE Amerie, I LOVE LOVE her but yes I think we are at a lost cause here. I was thinking today that like if '1 Thing' couldnt make her sell records, than NOTHING CAN. But I agree that her bad handling on Sony is also a big part to be blamed but I dont know, I think Amerie doesnt quite fit in even though she better than any other R&B female that there's out there. Still I just want her to release BILI in the USA for a personal accomplishment, she has been fighting SO HARD to have it released there that she deserves so, even with it flopping, she deserves to have the album out in her country.
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Post by hardforit on Dec 9, 2007 20:18:21 GMT -5
Y is everyone sounding so defeated ??? She is making moves in the right direction . Fly Like Me already is getting pretty impressive radio & TV play and is already on the charts plus she knows she can't release this album as it is and expect to sell (as its been on the net for months) so she is heading in to the studio with pharell for the refurbished version of BILI But Fly Like Me isnt an 'AMERIE' song. She is a featured artist, so whether it is HUGE or not, its not actually any big deal for her anyway... And you know, she will and can go back to studio millions of times that yet she wont sell records. I mean, I LOVE Amerie, I LOVE LOVE her but yes I think we are at a lost cause here. I was thinking today that like if '1 Thing' couldnt make her sell records, than NOTHING CAN. But I agree that her bad handling on Sony is also a big part to be blamed but I dont know, I think Amerie doesnt quite fit in even though she better than any other R&B female that there's out there. Still I just want her to release BILI in the USA for a personal accomplishment, she has been fighting SO HARD to have it released there that she deserves so, even with it flopping, she deserves to have the album out in her country. Fly Like Me basically is an Amerie song . people have been buying the single , and requesting it on the radio for Amerie not for Chingy . Hell even iTunes has the song labeled as , and i quote ," Amerie & Chingy -Fly Like Me" yes but i will admit , something about Amerie just doesn't fit into the whole music industry She has the looks ,the voice , the stage presence , the songs , the talent but the problem is her fanbase is too fragmented . her early fans were hardcore neo-R&B folks and 1 thing came out alot of them felt it was too much of a change from her old stuff , then when BILI came out they felt it was too pop or some other problem on each album amerie alienates her fanbase in exchange for greater diversity , creativity & artistic growth , she needs to find a balance
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 9, 2007 21:02:26 GMT -5
I'm all for creativity and variety in sound but Amerie's main problem is that she switches gears too drastically on each album. Like it's been said, she acquires a fanbase with one album and then alienates them with the next. She needs to pick one style and sound and stick with developing it; it's her only shot at having any real longevity and relevance.
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Post by busyboy on Dec 10, 2007 7:44:58 GMT -5
It's not just the fact that she couldn't build a strong fanbase album after album. Think of Monica, Mya, or even J. Lo, you'd think they are established enough to have their fans buying the albums, or hell, to simply release an album. But apparently that's not the case anymore...
Or just think of Janet, as successful and acclaimed as she has been for 20 years, we all discovered that she isn't flop-proof. Now, considering that Amerie has no stong fanbase, that she came on the scene later on, when the biz had already started to go downhill, that this project got little support and that they made all the wrong choices, I really think she's been VERY lucky to release her album worldwide and to get two Top 30 UK hits.
She will flop if/when she releases BILI in the US, it's to expect. But only Beyoncé, Alicia, Mary and Keyshia can sell nowadays, so it's not really surprising. She should go the indie route and work her ass off. It paid off for Tamia, it could work for Amerie too, IMO.
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Post by hardforit on Dec 10, 2007 10:00:45 GMT -5
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Post by SHOOTER on Dec 10, 2007 20:37:19 GMT -5
It's not just the fact that she couldn't build a strong fanbase album after album. Think of Monica, Mya, or even J. Lo, you'd think they are established enough to have their fans buying the albums, or hell, to simply release an album. But apparently that's not the case anymore... Or just think of Janet, as successful and acclaimed as she has been for 20 years, we all discovered that she isn't flop-proof. Now, considering that Amerie has no stong fanbase, that she came on the scene later on, when the biz had already started to go downhill, that this project got little support and that they made all the wrong choices, I really think she's been VERY lucky to release her album worldwide and to get two Top 30 UK hits. She will flop if/when she releases BILI in the US, it's to expect. But only Beyoncé, Alicia, Mary and Keyshia can sell nowadays, so it's not really surprising. She should go the indie route and work her ass off. It paid off for Tamia, it could work for Amerie too, IMO. I think Monica, Mya, J. Lo, and Janet all suffered from poor single choices. Labels tend to think that just because an artist has fans, they'll buy whatever the artist puts out but no matter how many fans you have, without radio support, you're really not going to get very far. Amerie's problem is dual because she not only doesn't have that strong of a fanbase but then she releases hit-or-miss singles. She could be another Rihanna if she played her cards right (tons of hit singles, moderate yet steady record sales).
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Post by M on Dec 10, 2007 23:28:03 GMT -5
It's everything. Poor single choices, lack of support from radio, and ultimately lack of support from the label.
I think BILI is a fantastic album. The label needs to decide how to market her -- either as a pop artist or an urban one. I personally think she would be better suited if she was more marketed towards pop.
At the end of the day, Monica, Mya, J. Lo and Janet all suffered from poor material, not poor single choices. That's just my opinion. I think all 4 of them released sub-par material, so it should come as no surprise that they all didn't do so well.
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Post by busyboy on Dec 11, 2007 4:38:03 GMT -5
Poor singles choices yes, but not necessarily poor albums as a whole, IMO. Janet, for example: obviously Damita Jo and 20 Y.O. aren't the classics Control and Rhythm Nation were, but they weren't bad albums AT ALL. The point was that they made bad choices and didn't sick to the projects to the same extent they'd have in 1993 or 1997. But since the lack of support from the labels is a generalized issue today, if they don't want to make as much money from the artists as they can, what you gonna do about it?
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