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Post by thescene on Nov 7, 2007 2:53:28 GMT -5
CCUSA has posted a preview of Carrie's co-hosting gig the weekend of the 17th:
November 17-18: Carrie Underwood co-hosts this week with Lon. Her new CD is "Carnival Ride," featuring the Top 5 hit "So Small." Carrie also has a song in the new Disney movie "Enchanted," which will be released this week. She has great stories about Miley Cyrus, Kenny Chesney, Kellie Pickler, and an incredible encounter between Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo and George Strait. This is a story you have to hear to believe!
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Post by realityBITES on Nov 7, 2007 2:55:37 GMT -5
I'm trying to find another female in the vocalist category who would have a better shot at winning than Carrie, but I just can't. Of course, Carrie didn't release any new material this year, and Before He Cheats mainly was a pop phenomenon -- again this past yr. So I think there's a chance for someone like Martina or Reba to take home the award (given that they released new music) and Carnival Ride was released after the voting took place.
It should be a fun and entertaining evening. Nothing will beat last year's CMAs and the absolute jubilation of both Carrie and her fans when she won the unexpected vocalist of the year award. So tonight's a lot less pressure, and I'll sit back and enjoy the ride. :)
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Post by leilamaurizia on Nov 7, 2007 3:01:41 GMT -5
WKRN has some video from the BMI Awards. Carrie's in there saying this:
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Post by leilamaurizia on Nov 7, 2007 3:21:41 GMT -5
I'm trying to find another female in the vocalist category who would have a better shot at winning than Carrie, but I just can't. Of course, Carrie didn't release any new material this year, and Before He Cheats mainly was a pop phenomenon -- again this past yr. So I think there's a chance for someone like Martina or Reba to take home the award (given that they released new music) and Carnival Ride was released after the voting took place. It should be a fun and entertaining evening. Nothing will beat last year's CMAs and the absolute jubilation of both Carrie and her fans when she won the unexpected vocalist of the year award. So tonight's a lot less pressure, and I'll sit back and enjoy the ride. :) Ah, yes! Last year's FVOTY win... that was truly special. I think after my jaw dropped, I started jumping up and down, all flushed and excited. Good times, truly fond memories :) Statistically, during the eligibility period, no other female came close to Carrie, but... should I get into this? I actually typed this out the other night, but deleted everything. I guess I might as well get it out. Buzz is Reba will win, and I can see how that can happen. Aside from her being Reba, and that already is huge, she was also the one making headlines (big sales, big single, smash comeback!) when votes were being made. At that time, Carrie was on the down-low being in between albums. As sbp has mentioned, voters have a tendency to have short-term memories. The only way for someone else to win is to have down-the-line huge-label-with-lots-of-voters support. SonyBMG is huge so... it's Martina or Carrie, being in the same label family (Miranda's Sony too, but her nomination is already her prize). Did Carrie get SonyBMG's 'endorsement'? (You all know about the "rumor" that company employees who are CMA members are given a list of who to vote for. Assuming that's true...) Is Carrie the chosen FVOTY for SonyBMG this year? I'm not so sure. Because before the noms came out, they were trying to push for Martina to get in EOTY. That didn't work. It also seems to me from various events that the label is trying to placate/reassure Martina that she's still one of their top priorities. What better way to kiss ass than to push her for an FVOTY win? They can make history at the same time and break the 4-win tie Martina has with Reba. What about Carrie who's making tons of money for them and statistically and impact-wise is the clear-cut winner? Well, they can rationalize by saying she just won last year and she has lots more chances in the future. Single-- Carrie's up against George. King George. Period. Video-- Carrie has a good shot at this, but as always, nothing's certain. "Online" seems to have the buzz win. I seriously don't intend to be a downer and I would celebrate being wrong. Here's to hoping I'm just paranoid and totally overthinking all this :)
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Post by leilamaurizia on Nov 7, 2007 3:41:32 GMT -5
USA Today predictions-- ... Female vocalist Alison Krauss Miranda Lambert Martina McBride Reba McEntire Carrie Underwood Should/will win: Underwood. The CMA's reigning female vocalist will win again. ... Single Anyway, Martina McBride Before He Cheats, Carrie Underwood Lost in This Moment, Big & Rich Ticks, Brad Paisley Wrapped, George Strait Should/will win:Cheats. One of the year's biggest country records, it also crossed over to pop. ... Song (goes to songwriters) Anyway (recorded by Martina McBride) Before He Cheats (Carrie Underwood) Give It Away (George Strait) Lost in This Moment (Big & Rich) Stupid Boy (Keith Urban) Should win:Cheats. This psycho-girlfriend song captures a downward spiral that's less about cheating than jealous paranoia. The brilliant and commercial piece reveals darker layers with each listen. Will win:Anyway. Whether it's the Grammys, the Oscars or the CMAs, voters love this kind of inspirational message. ... Video Anyway, Martina McBride Before He Cheats, Carrie Underwood Moments, Emerson Drive Online, Brad Paisley. You Save Me, Kenny Chesney Should/will win:Online. Directed by Jason Alexander and featuring TV icons William Shatner and Maureen McCormack, this fast-paced, funny video should give Paisley his third win here.
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Post by vinman on Nov 7, 2007 3:46:42 GMT -5
I'm trying to catch up to this thread. Thoughts, Even though Carrie will be #2 in the country charts , I second the notion that it is more important she stay on the BB200 with consitent sales and a major push come Christmas. Thanks for the links to Carrie dancing, that was cute even though it was very short. I would have loved to see a longer vid. USA TODAY, I hope their predictions come through. BHC deserves some awards. I checked but not sure if this was ever mentioned today, CNN has up a video interview they did with Carrie regarding her thoughts on the CMAs and EOTY award. The video can be downloaded from my site under VIDEOS, INTERVIEWS.
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Nov 7, 2007 4:36:43 GMT -5
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Nov 7, 2007 4:41:52 GMT -5
www.countryweekly.com/carrie_underwood/feature/1312Cover Story—Carrie Underwood: My Life In an exclusive interview, Carrie Underwood opens up about her home life, how she stays grounded—and her ideal guy. November 6, 2007 Carrie, who has just released her second CD, Carnival Ride, reveals that her home life is fairly average and normal. “I take my dog outside and eat breakfast,” she tells Country Weekly. “Then I get ready and run errands or clean the house.” And for fun, Carrie admits that she loves to go shopping and just hang out with friends. Her career doesn’t leave much time for dating, though Carrie does have an image of her ideal guy. “I don’t look for anything initially,” Carrie tells Country Weekly. “But I would like somebody who’s ambitious and wants to better their life.” Carrie also talks about Carnival Ride and her favorite song off the CD, “Wheel of the World,” which inspired the album’s title. To read this story, pick up the Nov. 19 issue of Country Weekly, on newsstands now.
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Post by leilamaurizia on Nov 7, 2007 5:10:55 GMT -5
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Post by leilamaurizia on Nov 7, 2007 5:19:37 GMT -5
CCUSA has posted a preview of Carrie's co-hosting gig the weekend of the 17th: November 17-18: Carrie Underwood co-hosts this week with Lon. Her new CD is "Carnival Ride," featuring the Top 5 hit "So Small." Carrie also has a song in the new Disney movie "Enchanted," which will be released this week. She has great stories about Miley Cyrus, Kenny Chesney, Kellie Pickler, and an incredible encounter between Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo and George Strait. This is a story you have to hear to believe! And from Garth's preview: November 10-11: Garth Brooks co-hosts with Lon to talk about his new Ultimate Hits package. As this show airs, he will be in the midst of a series of sold-out shows in Kansas City. He'll also talk about one of his favorite subjects: His wife, Trisha Yearwood. And he is shocked to discover that he met a current female artist when she was just ten years old...and promised to do a duet with her! You'll find out who it is, and get Garth's reaction ONLY here. That female would be Carrie. Looks like we/I'll have to listen to Garth's too.
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Post by aliasholic on Nov 7, 2007 5:30:33 GMT -5
Wow, That's awesome! I like country guys. They always support Carrie, not like a few females. lol
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Post by jeff on Nov 7, 2007 8:23:41 GMT -5
CCUSA has posted a preview of Carrie's co-hosting gig the weekend of the 17th: November 17-18: Carrie Underwood co-hosts this week with Lon. Her new CD is "Carnival Ride," featuring the Top 5 hit "So Small." Carrie also has a song in the new Disney movie "Enchanted," which will be released this week. She has great stories about Miley Cyrus, Kenny Chesney, Kellie Pickler, and an incredible encounter between Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo and George Strait. This is a story you have to hear to believe! And from Garth's preview: November 10-11: Garth Brooks co-hosts with Lon to talk about his new Ultimate Hits package. As this show airs, he will be in the midst of a series of sold-out shows in Kansas City. He'll also talk about one of his favorite subjects: His wife, Trisha Yearwood. And he is shocked to discover that he met a current female artist when she was just ten years old...and promised to do a duet with her! You'll find out who it is, and get Garth's reaction ONLY here. That female would be Carrie. Looks like we/I'll have to listen to Garth's too. so the word is out eh? lol. now we'll see if anything happens! i just checked lon helton's page. its so cute that the answer to garth's question is right below his picture! unless of course he has promised a ton of 10 year olds and a few of them became country stars :)
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 7, 2007 8:35:16 GMT -5
I'm trying to find another female in the vocalist category who would have a better shot at winning than Carrie, but I just can't. Of course, Carrie didn't release any new material this year, and Before He Cheats mainly was a pop phenomenon -- again this past yr. So I think there's a chance for someone like Martina or Reba to take home the award (given that they released new music) and Carnival Ride was released after the voting took place. Carrie had two #1s at country radio and CMT during the eligibility period, she had the cover of "I'll Stand By You" chart, she won two Grammys, she toured, and she sold the most albums of any country artist. Add in her crossover and helping keep country music going, and she's an easy winner in terms of statistics. In comparison, Martina had 1 top 10 country hit, Reba had 1 top 10 that was a duet, Miranda didn't have a hit but released a critically acclaimed album, and I don't even know what Alison had. Now if you want to get into the actual vocals of the nominated women, I'd say Carrie still comes out on top because of the variety of the vocals she released during the eligiblity year, but I could see a case for some of the other ladies (not Reba, though).
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Post by jptexas on Nov 7, 2007 9:34:47 GMT -5
I'm trying to find another female in the vocalist category who would have a better shot at winning than Carrie, but I just can't. Of course, Carrie didn't release any new material this year, and Before He Cheats mainly was a pop phenomenon -- again this past yr. So I think there's a chance for someone like Martina or Reba to take home the award (given that they released new music) and Carnival Ride was released after the voting took place. Carrie had two #1s at country radio and CMT during the eligibility period, she had the cover of "I'll Stand By You" chart, she won two Grammys, she toured, and she sold the most albums of any country artist. Add in her crossover and helping keep country music going, and she's an easy winner in terms of statistics. In comparison, Martina had 1 top 10 country hit, Reba had 1 top 10 that was a duet, Miranda didn't have a hit but released a critically acclaimed album, and I don't even know what Alison had. Now if you want to get into the actual vocals of the nominated women, I'd say Carrie still comes out on top because of the variety of the vocals she released during the eligiblity year, but I could see a case for some of the other ladies (not Reba, though). I'm a fan of all these ladies, but honestly, I can't find a case that can be made to award this to anyone but Carrie. Unless you have a different criteria for this award, then Carrie should win it hands down. Now, if you're a subscriber to giving it to someone because of their longevity, or they need another win to have some sort of record, or they had a better tour, then yes, you can make a case. But, as far as my understanding of the prerequisites, Carrie's the winner. If she doesn't win, it's ok, but IMO, they must have used one of the "other" reasons for not giving this award to her.
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Post by fischbone on Nov 7, 2007 9:36:40 GMT -5
Will Carrie win at the CMAs?Country awards showdownThe media is predicting wins for Carrie while I, on the other hand, can relate with lullaby in thinking that it's very possible for Carrie to get shut out this year. I really, really, really hope I'm wrong and the past few days have made me re-evaluate my hunch a bit. It's not a doom-and-gloom thing for me though if it does happen. Apparently, it's not doom-and-gloom for Carrie too as she's also mentioned a possible shut-out (which interview was that? It was before the listening party stints.) and saying that whatever happens, it's still gonna be a great night. She was in high spirits during the candy interview so looks like she means it. Good for her! Here's to hoping that by saying it out loud, I stopped it from happening :) You surprise me in thinking this way,leilamaurizia. I think there's no way Carrie will be shut out this year and if she doesn't win FVOTY, I'll be shocked. Even more shocked than I was last year when she won. While Reba is Reba and I won't be too upset if she won, Carrie is far more deserving of the award than any other nominee.
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Post by John77 on Nov 7, 2007 9:46:25 GMT -5
Miranda didn't have a hit but released a critically acclaimed album, and I don't even know what Alison had. But "critical acclaim" doesn't really come into play here. This is the CMA's after all, and not the Grammy Awards. As for Alison, she had the duet with John Waite on their remake of "Missing You." The original (with him solo) is a lot better to me. Carrie should win this one, though I can see Martina getting it... I don't think there are any other worthy candidates.
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Post by John77 on Nov 7, 2007 9:48:47 GMT -5
Accrording to the just-released Billboard article, the Eagles' album will indeed knock Carrie out of the top spot on the Top Country Albums chart. Excerpt: So they basically decided this today? Yup... but that's Billboard for you... I gave up trying to figure them out a long time ago!!!
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Post by thescene on Nov 7, 2007 10:11:55 GMT -5
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 7, 2007 10:32:49 GMT -5
11/17 chart:
1 3 UNDERWOOD*CARRIE CARNIVAL RIDE 170,100 -68% 527,101 697,626
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Post by thescene on Nov 7, 2007 10:42:35 GMT -5
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Post by monuda89 on Nov 7, 2007 10:43:46 GMT -5
it's little higher than HDD! Carrie's doing great !!
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Post by aliasholic on Nov 7, 2007 10:46:12 GMT -5
it's little higher than HDD! Carrie's doing great !! And higher than RF's second week sales!
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 7, 2007 10:48:29 GMT -5
But "critical acclaim" doesn't really come into play here. This is the CMA's after all, and not the Grammy Awards. As for Alison, she had the duet with John Waite on their remake of "Missing You." The original (with him solo) is a lot better to me. Carrie should win this one, though I can see Martina getting it... I don't think there are any other worthy candidates. Well, I was assuming quality material would be a factor in voting, but maybe not? As for Alison, so she, too, only had a duet eligible? The category is even more ridiculous than I thought, then.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Nov 7, 2007 10:59:50 GMT -5
Well, I was assuming quality material would be a factor in voting, but maybe not? As for Alison, so she, too, only had a duet eligible? The category is even more ridiculous than I thought, then. To answer your first question, yes, critical acclaim and quality material have mattered to the CMAs historically. Commercial impact plays a role, but not nearly as determinant a role as it does at the ACMs (which is why the CMAs continue to be taken more seriously). And not even the Grammys are immune from taking commercial impact into account. To answer your 2nd question, Alison Krauss also had the solo track, "Simple Love," the lead single off her GH set released during the eligibility period ( One Hundred Miles or More was released in April of this year, I believe, and has scanned over 423K copies to date). "Simple Love" didn't do much in terms of radio airplay, but its video is still seeing some CMT airplay. Moreover, Krauss has been reasonably visible throughout the year on TV -- not on the level of Carrie, Martina or Reba, but still. Glad to see that Soundscan had Carnival Ride's total higher than HDD. Hoping that Carrie has a great night at the CMAs and that helps keep her album sales strong.
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Post by jim9513 on Nov 7, 2007 11:00:03 GMT -5
Singles are not the only determining factor in terms of a vocalist nomination. AK released what is probably the most critically acclaimed album by a female this year: A Hundred Miles or More...which was also very commercially successful.
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Post by jptexas on Nov 7, 2007 11:11:40 GMT -5
Miranda didn't have a hit but released a critically acclaimed album, and I don't even know what Alison had. But "critical acclaim" doesn't really come into play here. This is the CMA's after all, and not the Grammy Awards. As for Alison, she had the duet with John Waite on their remake of "Missing You." The original (with him solo) is a lot better to me. Carrie should win this one, though I can see Martina getting it... I don't think there are any other worthy candidates. If your album receives critical acclaim, but nobody buys it, was it really that good in the first place? I guess it was in the eyes of the critics, but in the eyes of the people that you're trying to get to listen to it, well that's another story. Some Hearts wasn't actully given rave reviews, but it sold millions. Was it a great album or did the people like what they heard. It's been a question that will always be up in the air.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 7, 2007 11:11:58 GMT -5
In thinking about Reba's nomination (and maybe Alison's), what makes it even worse is that Reba is in Vocal Event for "BOY." Since that was her only eligible song, it seems odd that she can get both Vocal Event and Female Vocalist nods for it.
Isn't that a hits collection? You can't really include the songs on that except for the new ones. At least she did have new ones, though, so that's something.
Can someone explain why the studio albums are usually credited to Alison & Union Station, but then her hits set are credited to her as a solo artist?
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 7, 2007 11:14:15 GMT -5
If your album receives critical acclaim, but nobody buys it, was it really that good in the first place? I guess it was in the eyes of the critics, but in the eyes of the people that you're trying to get to listen to it, well that's another story. Some Hearts wasn't actully given rave reviews, but it sold millions. Was it a great album or did the people like what they heard. It's been a question that will always be up in the air. But would Some Hearts be less good to you if it hadn't sold so well? Also, just because someone buys an album doesn't mean they like it (you could like the 1-2 songs you hear on the radio, buy the album, and then like nothing else). I don't think critical reviews necessarily mean an album is good/bad, but that's all we really have to go on in that sense. Sales mean something, too, but they go more with the commercial side of the criteria.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Nov 7, 2007 11:27:17 GMT -5
If your album receives critical acclaim, but nobody buys it, was it really that good in the first place? It would depend on whether I respected the sources of the critical acclaim, but if you're asking whether I think an album needs to sell a lot of copies in order to be considered good, my answer is "Absolutely not." Especially these days, when an album connecting with a mass audience depends almost as much on marketing/promotion/exposure as it does on the material/quality. There are way too many unimaginative and formula-driven corporate gatekeepers (running radio, the labels, TV, etc.) involved in the process of selling music for me to ever dismiss the quality of an album based on its sales. I'm not one of those people who turns up her nose at all the big sellers -- I don't think they're all catering formula music to the passive-listening mass audience which just laps up what it is spoonfed (though I do think that's the case with some big-selling acts). Look, I'm a Carrie fan -- I think her singing has genuine depth, and her writing has potential to exhibit the same. But at the same time, I think there are some really active and engaged music listeners, people who can (thanks to their training, knowledge, experience, whatever) make me hear things in music that I wouldn't have otherwise heard. Whether we connect to a particular song is a subjective matter, but there are objective elements in the construction of music, and I find it useful to hear from a few critics on those matters. On a review-by-review basis, I do sometimes take their views more seriously than I do the views of people I think are more passive listeners (sadly, I think a lot of music critics these days qualify as passive listeners, too). So yeah, if the critics whom I respect can offer me more insight into the depth and layers of the songs that people like Alison Krauss and Ray LaMontagne are releasing, and if those songs move me, there's no sales number that is going to convince me that their music isn't great.
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Post by jptexas on Nov 7, 2007 11:38:54 GMT -5
I don't think critical reviews necessarily mean an album is good/bad, but that's all we really have to go on in that sense. Sales mean something, too, but they go more with the commercial side of the criteria.
^^I think you just made my point. It's really up in the air with all these critics liking this album or that album, then the public responds with something completely different. Why do we even have critics, people will listen to the music, if they like it, they'll buy what you're selling. Most movie critics look at a movie from a very technical point of view and the people watching it will view the same movie with different perspectives. Sometimes I wonder whether music critics are just trying out their English by writing stuff with so many references to some obscure topic that I tend to think it's becoming some sort of writing competition. Wierd.
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