jptexas
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Post by jptexas on Nov 7, 2007 11:54:31 GMT -5
So yeah, if the critics whom I respect can offer me more insight into the depth and layers of the songs that people like Alison Krauss and Ray LaMontagne are releasing, and if those songs move me, there's no sales number that is going to convince me that their music isn't great.
I agree that if a critic can lead you to listen to a song or music that you normally wouldn't have listened to and gives you reason to like the music, it's all good. But, judging by your posts, I can see that you're into music and all it's layers. It's all good. The average listener is not going to listen to music to that level, he or she will listen and discover that the song touches them or makes them feel something and decide if they will either buy it or listen to it on the radio with more intensity. That's the problem I see with critics, they tend to over think the musical experience. In that sense, they're shooting reviews right over the heads of the people they're trying to nudge one way or another. I understand there's a place for music, movie and theater critics, but sometimes they tend to get in the way. We've all seen a critically acclaimed movie only to find out the movie was just too deep and not satisfying. Was it a good movie in the first place, it's in the eye of the beholder, and in this case the beholder was not correct in the public's eye. In the end, isn't that what matters. What good is art, if nobody sees it. What good is music, if people don't or won't listen to it. JMO, Thank you.
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Post by neally on Nov 7, 2007 11:56:40 GMT -5
^^ Good point. I, like I think most of the public, could care less about the critics. For example between Carrie's two albums, I think 'Carnival Ride' outclasses 'Some Hearts' in terms of it's artistic value, vocals, and overall depth. While it may not have a big hook and cross-over like 'Before He Cheats' or my favourite Carrie song of all-time ('Wasted'), I find myself only skpping two songs on 'Carnival Ride', whereas, I skip half of 'Some Hearts', mostly the syrupy ballads. Sales of 'Carnvial Ride' will probably not be as great as the monster smash 'Some Hearts', but it just is a better record in my opinion.
I do think the CMAs try to show that they reward "art", much like the Grammys supposedly do, with their bias toward favouring veterans and what is perceived to be critically better material. I also think that Alison Kraus' latest effort is a better artistic record than nearly any other country record out there (lyrics and depth) but she will never sell like Carrie, Rascal Flatts, Brad Paisley, Kenny Chesney, etc. because her record, like most "artistic records" is relatively underproduced, is not mainstream enough for radio and the masses, and is rarely ever pushed onto radio by the label like these other big name, mainstream artists.
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Post by jim9513 on Nov 7, 2007 12:18:47 GMT -5
1) A Hundred Miles Or More is not a "hits" collection--it does feature some songs previously recorded, but most of them come from ancillary sources.
2) Sales have very, very, very little to do with how "good" an album is. I think we all have a list of albums that we loved but didn't sell, and, on the other hand, how many of us still have "New Kids On The Block" cassette tapes kicking around in a storage box somewhere?
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Post by fischbone on Nov 7, 2007 12:29:29 GMT -5
*raises hand for the NKOTB tape LMAO!  Anyhoo, check out BLING BEAR.. incelebritynews.com/2007/11/07/carrie-underwood-designs-a-care-bear-for-charity/ The fluffy little Care Bears are growing up! They turn 25 this year and to celebrate the release of the all new adventure Oopsy Does It!, celebrities like Carried Underwood and Jamie Pressley have customized new loveable bears which will be auctioned off to benefit St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital. Through November 21st, you can bid on 25 original celebrity-designed Care Bears adorned with authentic Swarovski crystals on charitybuzz.com. Our favorite? This Bling Bear designed by Carrie Underwood, who says “Bling bear was born on my album release day in New York City. She represents everything that sparkles and shines.” Check out all the other cute bears and don’t forget to bid! SOO CUTE!! |
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Post by fischbone on Nov 7, 2007 12:49:28 GMT -5
Carrie's wearing 7million dollars of jewelry tonight.... :o :o www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/news_press_release,218297.shtml C arrie Underwood will unveil the latest item from the Johnathon Arndt Collection at the CMA's in Nashville on November 7, 2007. The 18 KT pink gold and diamond ladies watch hosts 19ct of diamonds and all Swiss movement is a Johnathon Arndt original design which retails for $295,000. The watch collection and design has been in the making for over two years. Underwood will wear a total of nine pieces and approximately seven million dollars worth of jewels from her red carpet arrival and performance to the after party. The Founders have been working with Underwood for a couple of years now as her style and elegance are very representative of the brand. |
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Post by TFMachado on Nov 7, 2007 13:04:02 GMT -5
lol... that is incredible... and AI announced everywhere when LaKisha has 1 million on her... lol!!
BTW, THERESAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, the album arrived!! Will thank you properly later!!
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Post by aliasholic on Nov 7, 2007 13:07:51 GMT -5
lol... that is incredible... and AI announced everywhere when LaKisha has 1 million on her... lol!! BTW, THERESAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, the album arrived!! Will thank you properly later!! Congratulations!  |
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Post by leilamaurizia on Nov 7, 2007 13:27:38 GMT -5
^^ Aww, I love the Carrie fan family. It's so wonderful being a part of it :) Here are TV Guide's predictions. |
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Post by Patches on Nov 7, 2007 13:32:52 GMT -5
I wished she would wear the red dress from the target promo during her performance with fans blowing on her..ugh that would be soo hot.
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Post by TFMachado on Nov 7, 2007 13:36:20 GMT -5
I find it interesting how mostly all news and stuff with predictions don't mention Song OTY, only Single... I even had forgotten that BHC was nominated for Song, aswell!!
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Post by fischbone on Nov 7, 2007 13:41:01 GMT -5
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Post by tsharky on Nov 7, 2007 14:10:47 GMT -5
lol... that is incredible... and AI announced everywhere when LaKisha has 1 million on her... lol!! BTW, THERESAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, the album arrived!! Will thank you properly later!! that is so great! I was hoping you would get it soon! :) I love Bling Bear! wish I had the money to buy it! And I love that carrie is a 7 million dollar woman tonight! yeah! do you guys notice that carrie always gets to wear the bling- more then the other ladies? love it! |
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Post by tsharky on Nov 7, 2007 14:13:22 GMT -5
wow-- now that is a beautiful dress! The ruffly part was just the jacket- martina was wearing a coat too- it must have been cold last night in nashville. :) |
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Post by TFMachado on Nov 7, 2007 14:18:48 GMT -5
that is so great! I was hoping you would get it soon! :) I love Bling Bear! wish I had the money to buy it! And I love that carrie is a 7 million dollar woman tonight! yeah! do you guys notice that carrie always gets to wear the bling- more then the other ladies? love it! I never pay attention to details, lol... but now there are 7 millon details I'll be paying attention tonight (more like, tomorrow morning :( ) anyway, Theresa, if you have msn, please add me... I believe my MSN is in my profile...  |
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Post by tsharky on Nov 7, 2007 14:43:29 GMT -5
^I have an aol account. Guys- do you think the purple sweatshirt she wore to do the radio interview may have been the $1800 one she bought in paris? It looks french to me, very cool.
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Post by jptexas on Nov 7, 2007 14:46:26 GMT -5
Wow, 7 million. Sounds like the number of cds she's sold already.
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Post by tsharky on Nov 7, 2007 15:15:47 GMT -5
carrie and sheryl crow-- cool picture! guess they got to meet!  |
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Post by tsharky on Nov 7, 2007 15:16:25 GMT -5
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Post by laura1307 on Nov 7, 2007 15:20:40 GMT -5
hey guys does anyone know if there is a televised red carpet event prior to the awards?thanks.. and any takers on what she'll sing/ wear for the performance tonite and if dare I ask chace might accompany her last minute ... as a friend of course lol... just all these last minute thoughts anyone ?
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Post by fischbone on Nov 7, 2007 15:31:43 GMT -5
Red carpet starts at 5est on abc.com and 7 on CMT....I heard she was wearing a yellow Badgley
Mischka for the carpet but I can't remember where I heard it..Prob in one of the 2437528270 radio interviews..hehehe..
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Post by leilamaurizia on Nov 7, 2007 15:32:10 GMT -5
CMT will have a red carpet show at 7pm.
And I do hope she brings eye and arm candy. It was fun watching her and Tony at the ACMs. She was so giddy.
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Post by fischbone on Nov 7, 2007 15:32:54 GMT -5
carrie and sheryl crow-- cool picture! guess they got to meet! EEEEK! I love Sheryl Crow...What a cool pic! |
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Post by tsharky on Nov 7, 2007 15:46:41 GMT -5
^I love sheryl crow too! I am so glad they got to meet!
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Post by SILENCE on Nov 7, 2007 15:46:42 GMT -5
If your album receives critical acclaim, but nobody buys it, was it really that good in the first place? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that sales don't determine the greatness of ANY album, regardless of critical acclaim or whatever. plenty of albums that were brilliant didn't sell at all and other albums which were utter crap sold a ton. I'd be surprised if Carrie didn't win FVOTY, pleasantly surprised because I'm rooting for Reba. |
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Post by jptexas on Nov 7, 2007 16:15:55 GMT -5
If your album receives critical acclaim, but nobody buys it, was it really that good in the first place? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that sales don't determine the greatness of ANY album, regardless of critical acclaim or whatever. plenty of albums that were brilliant didn't sell at all and other albums which were utter crap sold a ton. I'd be surprised if Carrie didn't win FVOTY, pleasantly surprised because I'm rooting for Reba. Reba had one song in the eligibility period, and a duet at that. That is going to give her a nomination and a win. Ok. I guess next year we'll give it to Ann Murray for, oh let's see, how about just because. |
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Post by tsharky on Nov 7, 2007 16:31:24 GMT -5
^No, next year it will go to dolly due to her new album, Backwoods Barbie....lol
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Post by realityBITES on Nov 7, 2007 16:44:34 GMT -5
I read on CF that the rumor is whoever wins FVOTY will be setting a record tonight. Hmmm...
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Post by tsharky on Nov 7, 2007 16:45:54 GMT -5
uhoh-- is that reba or martina then? what record would carrie be setting if she won?
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Post by leilamaurizia on Nov 7, 2007 16:51:08 GMT -5
(ETA: this is in reply to posts #392 and 393)
It does actually sound ridiculous when you guys put it that way, LOL! Reba, because it's Reba; George, because it's George. :) But then again, this is the awards show which has a Brooks & Dunn award a.k.a Vocal Duo. And that sentimental thing happens at the Grammys too. Longevity is rewarded. Now, if B&D wins again tonight despite much bigger years by Sugarland and even Big & Rich, that would just take the "ridiculous!"cake. Oh well, awards are awards. I'm looking forward to the show. I can barely sit still as early as now!
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Post by fischbone on Nov 7, 2007 16:53:33 GMT -5
I read on CF that the rumor is whoever wins FVOTY will be setting a record tonight. Hmmm... Well that was totally hearsay. Some radio person said that and I'm sure they don't have any idea who has won. The person listening probably heard it wrong... :) |
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