whynotnow
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Post by whynotnow on Aug 9, 2008 0:28:58 GMT -5
I think Jon was implying that George's video in its simplicity, didn't need interpretation . Its very straight forward and extremely well done.
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Post by sbp17 on Aug 9, 2008 5:18:53 GMT -5
You can't compare George's videos to Carrie's. His videos have never been one of George's strong points. And I definitely feel that videos have so far not been one of Carrie's strong points thanks to Roman. I just really, really like this song. It's becoming one of my favs from George.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Aug 11, 2008 12:50:16 GMT -5
looking at hp looks like george just got his 79th top 10.
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Post by Jonsolo on Aug 11, 2008 14:44:22 GMT -5
looking at hp looks like george just got his 79th top 10. Now let's just hope that they recognize it on Chart Beat or something, and with that correct total (as opposed to discounting something and calling it his 78th). Maybe I should write another letter to Fred Bronson, to see if he will address it.
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 11, 2008 15:10:22 GMT -5
looking at hp looks like george just got his 79th top 10. I think he can make it to 100.
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Post by pipi on Aug 11, 2008 16:44:24 GMT -5
George is so lazy for making videos. He's made like 1 in the last 5 years. :/
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Post by zaclord on Aug 11, 2008 16:46:32 GMT -5
2 actually. "Seashores In Old Mexico" and "Troubadour"
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Post by pipi on Aug 11, 2008 16:47:39 GMT -5
I dont count Troubadour
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 11, 2008 20:17:04 GMT -5
I don't understand why George feels comfortable singing in front of thousands and thousands of people and doing photo shoots but doesn't feel comfortable making a video. ???
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Post by kw9461 on Aug 11, 2008 20:19:58 GMT -5
^ Especially considering he once did a whole movie. He wasn't a natural actor or anything, but he did a pretty good job with it.
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Post by gcizvolsfan on Aug 11, 2008 21:47:13 GMT -5
George is so lazy for making videos. He's made like 1 in the last 5 years. :/ George's music has stood on its own for over 27 years. He does not need to do video's so when he does one it is special.
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Post by bigbluenote on Aug 11, 2008 21:55:21 GMT -5
George is so lazy for making videos. He's made like 1 in the last 5 years. :/ George's music has stood on its own for over 27 years. He does not need to do video's so when he does one it is special. Exactly. George doesn't seem to like the spotlight. I admire that about him. He's as big as he is WITHOUT the "superstar" hype. I think it's really impressive. Just proves how his music is timeless and true country. Also, does anyone notice that you rarely hear George in an interview? Whether it's for a magazine or radio. - That's intentional.
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 12, 2008 6:18:50 GMT -5
Yeah, George sure doesn't like the spotlight. He's the complete opposite of Kenny Chesney and Tim McGraw.
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Post by pipi on Aug 12, 2008 9:27:32 GMT -5
I just think that songs without videos are less likely to stand the test of time - the progression of media over the past few years means that in future its likely that the video will be required to get any airplay at all. You lose out ALOT without videos. At least he made one for his best song - Amarillo By Morning
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Aug 12, 2008 13:58:36 GMT -5
I just think that songs without videos are less likely to stand the test of time - the progression of media over the past few years means that in future its likely that the video will be required to get any airplay at all. That sort of makes sense. Looking at the JMM thread, I noticed that he never made a video for "If You've Got Love" even though it was a Number One. That, and the fact that it dropped like a rock, might explain why it's by far his least-played #1. Similarly, I've noticed that some other #1's that get next to no recurrent rotation seem to be the ones that didn't have videos (e.g. Bryan White's "Sittin' on Go", which I swear my station never got around to playing). Looking back at King George's hits, I can't recall the last time I heard "I Hate Everything" or "She Let Herself Go", or even "It Just Comes Natural", after all those fell from the charts.
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Post by pipi on Aug 12, 2008 15:23:57 GMT -5
:nods: even though that JMM song was amazing. :)
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 12, 2008 20:38:35 GMT -5
I just think that songs without videos are less likely to stand the test of time - the progression of media over the past few years means that in future its likely that the video will be required to get any airplay at all. That sort of makes sense. Looking at the JMM thread, I noticed that he never made a video for "If You've Got Love" even though it was a Number One. That, and the fact that it dropped like a rock, might explain why it's by far his least-played #1. Similarly, I've noticed that some other #1's that get next to no recurrent rotation seem to be the ones that didn't have videos (e.g. Bryan White's "Sittin' on Go", which I swear my station never got around to playing). Looking back at King George's hits, I can't recall the last time I heard "I Hate Everything" or "She Let Herself Go", or even "It Just Comes Natural", after all those fell from the charts. You bring up some very good points. I think videos and radio airplay do go hand in hand. I also haven't heard "Just Comes Natural" or "I Hate Everything" forever on the radio.
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Post by whynotnow on Aug 12, 2008 21:24:50 GMT -5
There are many different artists songs that were big and had videos that I don't hear played much. So I don't think that's a valid example. I hear Carried Away, Blue Clear Sky, Run, and a lot of other songs that never had a video made for them. Sorry, but I don't buy the "every song needs a video to be remembered idea...... And I also think its over kill to have a video for every song an artist releases. Its just a way to get exposure a lot of the time and some don't even make sense or relate to the song.
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Post by bigbluenote on Aug 12, 2008 21:39:31 GMT -5
I don't get the reasoning either with the "every song needs a video" theory.
In my opinion, I think some songs SHOULDN'T have a video. The one I can name off the top of my head is "Stay". That video RUINED the song for me. It was horrible. I didn't need to see her pitiful face to hear the emotion in the song. The song was perfect before the horrid video.
I hope a video is not made for "What I Cannot Change" by LeAnn. The song is epic enough that it doesn't need a video, which most likely will not be good. Also in my opinion, videos usually kill a song for me. They just suck these days.
What happened to entertaining, meaningful, touching, videos like "Fancy", "The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia", "Does He Love You", and just about any other Reba video? And most Toby videos? And just about any Shania video? ...... To me, these are videos that are worth watching. They are worth my time. These days, videos are pointless and boring and almost never add anything to the song.
Sorry to go so off topic from George, but I really don't get that "every video for every song" thing. I'm actually kind of glad that George hasn't done so many videos. I love and respect that he is where he is without the spotlight. And videos are just another way of trying to be in the spotlight as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by zaclord on Aug 12, 2008 21:47:31 GMT -5
wow. "Stay" is my favorite music video ever. that made the song 100 times more enjoyable for me.
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Post by Jonsolo on Aug 12, 2008 22:21:07 GMT -5
I don't get the reasoning either with the "every song needs a video" theory. In my opinion, I think some songs SHOULDN'T have a video. The one I can name off the top of my head is "Stay". That video RUINED the song for me. It was horrible. I didn't need to see her pitiful face to hear the emotion in the song. The song was perfect before the horrid video. I hope a video is not made for "What I Cannot Change" by LeAnn. The song is epic enough that it doesn't need a video, which most likely will not be good. Also in my opinion, videos usually kill a song for me. They just suck these days. What happened to entertaining, meaningful, touching, videos like "Fancy", "The Night The Lights Went Out In Georgia", "Does He Love You", and just about any other Reba video? And most Toby videos? And just about any Shania video? ...... To me, these are videos that are worth watching. They are worth my time. These days, videos are pointless and boring and almost never add anything to the song. Sorry to go so off topic from George, but I really don't get that "every video for every song" thing. I'm actually kind of glad that George hasn't done so many videos. I love and respect that he is where he is without the spotlight. And videos are just another way of trying to be in the spotlight as far as I'm concerned. The songs/videos you mentioned are fine, but I've never seen much reason for the whole concept of videos, other than to try to justify the existence of CMT/GAC. I've always preferred to just paint my own pictures in my mind, aided only with the lyrics of a song, and have never had a problem with doing just that with George's songs. I guess maybe for a song whose lyrics are confusing or badly written, a video could be needed to make sense of it. But more often than not, I've totally disagreed with the vision and style that a director has chosen for the video. (Waitin' On A Woman is one exception that leaps to mind, but even that one I would have been fine if a video was never made for it)
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Post by whynotnow on Aug 12, 2008 22:48:43 GMT -5
I agree with my whole heart... I wish I could remember the name of a song that came out a few years ago.. I cannot for the life of me remember song or artist... It was a really pretty song.. Then I saw the video... I wanted to throw up... There was this guy and girl sitting at a table or something, him singing and both of them looking like they had just had teeth pulled or something equally painful.... It was like a contest to see which of them could look sadder and neither one could pull off the acting job... It was a mess...
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Post by kw9461 on Aug 13, 2008 2:41:20 GMT -5
I'm with you guys, I just have never really understood why so many country songs get videos. Country songs are usually very good at getting the point of the song across with the lyrics (although that's becoming less and less true). Narrative songs are good at telling the story. Emotional songs are meant to describe the emotions. If the lyrics do the job they are supposed to, then a video is really redundant. Just a way to try and connect with the younger demographic that label execs are oozing over these days. I rarely watch videos, but when I do, I like to see videos that take a slightly different interpretation then the lyrics tend to indicate (Last Call is a good example). A good funny video can be good now and again as well (Celebrity always cracks me up). All too often though, a video will just narrow your view on a song. Some songs are meant to be mysterious or vague (although some, as jonsolo said, are just poorly written), and specifying the actions in a video just closes your mind about the interpretation of the song. (Ok, off soap box now).
Getting back on track, this song is looking like a definite T5, but as many predicted from the begining, it doesn't appear to have a #1 run in it (with quicker moving songs like Kid Rock, Kenny, Carrie, and even Toby lurking not too far behind him).
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Post by rockingcountry on Aug 13, 2008 15:10:18 GMT -5
I do think it depends on the song. IMO, "I Saw God Today" should have had a video and "Troubadour" shouldn't. I think you could really do a video with some wonderful images for ISGT but "Troubadour" is more boring.
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Post by Lee on Aug 13, 2008 15:23:35 GMT -5
I really like this song. It is my favorite from him since Give It Away. I am almost persuaded to buy the album. Does anyone else know if the duet with Patty Loveless is any good?
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Post by drock89 on Aug 13, 2008 15:35:21 GMT -5
Does anyone else know if the duet with Patty Loveless is any good? One word... DUH!
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Post by jptexas on Aug 14, 2008 0:20:55 GMT -5
I loved "I saw God today", but I really, really, really love "Troubadour". really
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Post by someguy on Oct 11, 2008 12:19:18 GMT -5
Wow, this is really plummeting down by losing 922 spins. I don't think I've seen that kid of loss for a George Strait song before (though "Meanwhile" must've lost a lot of spins on its way down too). I'm not surprised that it didn't go to #1, but I thought it would've at least made the top 5, and not peak at #7.
Even though I haven't heard any of the songs from the album besides the two singles, I hope they put out the Patty Loveless duet so she gets heard on the radio again.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Oct 11, 2008 14:41:06 GMT -5
Wow, this is really plummeting down by losing 922 spins. I don't think I've seen that kid of loss for a George Strait song before (though "Meanwhile" must've lost a lot of spins on its way down too). I'm not surprised that it didn't go to #1, but I thought it would've at least made the top 5, and not peak at #7. Speaking of losses, any idea what the heck was up with "We Really Shouldn't Be Doing This"? 7-4-5-8-6-5-10. What caused it to bump back up? I know the week that it was at #4, *six* songs took huge jumps into the Top 10 somehow. As for "Troubadour", I think it just wasn't his best effort. It's not a very well written song (the second verse, like I said, is pretty lame), and that might have had something to do with it.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Oct 13, 2008 17:00:13 GMT -5
i think too that it got caught in very competitive top 10 weeks as at one point when it was #8 every song ahead of it hit #1 except for "i still miss you" which hit #2....."troub" spent 9 weeks in the top 10 and didnt hit the top 5 & u dont see that happen much.
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