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Post by MusicRules on Jul 1, 2008 9:44:18 GMT -5
^^ The veil could be the bridal veil, AND there's the reference to something borrowed, something blue, AND sixpence is a wedding tradition.
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Post by Zach on Jul 1, 2008 9:46:01 GMT -5
Here's my take: The first verse she is getting married to the guy, who is in the Army- thus the military band. Perhaps the whole song is just a memory, or dream. Then the second verse switches to his funeral. That's how I've always heard the song, could be wrong but if so that makes this, like yal've said, a hard to understand song. But she is married to him because they gave HER the flag...
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Post by drock89 on Jul 1, 2008 9:46:50 GMT -5
^^ The veil could be the bridal veil, AND there's the reference to something borrowed, something blue, AND sixpence is a wedding tradition. Here's my take: The first verse she is getting married to the guy, who is in the Army- thus the military band. Perhaps the whole song is just a memory, or dream. Then the second verse switches to his funeral. That's how I've always heard the song, could be wrong but if so that makes this, like yal've said, a hard to understand song. But she is married to him because they gave HER the flag... I had never looked at it from your perspective. I always say it as he died. nteresting. Thanks for your thoughts guys. Gives the song even more depth. I guess I never tied the cues together haha. What a good song! I just hope that they don't decide to release it on July 4th. I think that'd be a bit insulting.
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Post by MusicRules on Jul 1, 2008 9:50:51 GMT -5
That's my point. If this was to be a wedding, I find the timeline extremely implausible.
If a funeral, then the timeline is okay. I admit, I hadn't considered the funeral perspective, as you did. Glad you brought that up. This has been an interesting exchange.
Anyone else have any insights?
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Post by MusicRules on Jul 1, 2008 9:55:27 GMT -5
this from www.carrieunderwoodofficial.com/: Lindsey, who co-wrote "Jesus, Take The Wheel," and Carrie have become fast friends since meeting when a group of songwriters gathered at a songwriter retreat in Nashville after her Idol win to help Carrie write and select songs for Some Hearts. In addition to "Wheel Of The World" and the pair of songs she wrote with Carrie, Lindsey co-wrote "Get Out Of This Town," a bit of upbeat restlessness, "Twisted," about a relationship on the edge, and "Just A Dream," a powerful song dealing with the effects of war on a young bride-to-be.
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Post by Zach on Jul 1, 2008 9:57:24 GMT -5
The timeline is so implausible because it seems to have happened in a very short period of time. The girl is only eighteen when she gets married and she keeps saying "I was countin' on forever, now I'll never know..." It's almost like he goes to war directly after he gets married and loses his life, but BOTH are happening in the song.
Also, the song never does say whether it is infact, "Just A Dream" or reality. Something else to think about.
EDIT: Thanks, Music Rules, that makes more sense now. So she is dreaming of the two situations. One she looks forward to but the other haunts her dreams.
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Post by zaclord on Jul 1, 2008 11:36:55 GMT -5
that is how i always thought of it. they were engaged and were planning to get married when he came home from war but then he died at war so they never could get married. do they give the flag to fiance if they aren't married yet? if not then that part doesnt make much sense. but i guess it could be interpreted different ways
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Post by drock89 on Jul 1, 2008 11:53:01 GMT -5
I actually, thinking about it, am wondering if she's older than you think. Let's say she's 21 and her husband has died. I think the wedding scene is a flashback. Funerals can be held in churches, and so that brought back the memories of the wedding, but the trumpets brought her back to reality. That's why she dropped the flowers, she "just couldn't believe it."
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Post by hoosy on Jul 1, 2008 12:08:10 GMT -5
I actually, thinking about it, am wondering if she's older than you think. Let's say she's 21 and her husband has died. I think the wedding scene is a flashback. Funerals can be held in churches, and so that brought back the memories of the wedding, but the trumpets brought her back to reality. That's why she dropped the flowers, she "just couldn't believe it." ^This is kinda the scenario I had in my head as well. Love hearing everyone's interpretations....fascinating!
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Post by countryqueen on Jul 1, 2008 12:13:29 GMT -5
I had never looked at it from your perspective. I always say it as he died. nteresting. Thanks for your thoughts guys. Gives the song even more depth. I guess I never tied the cues together haha. What a good song! I just hope that they don't decide to release it on July 4th. I think that'd be a bit insulting. oh gosh, now that you said that, i'm a bit worried. that would be VERY insulting...I'm sure that Carrie and her people would hate to give off any negative thoughts towards our troops though, so that probably won't happen...at least, i hope so. i don't think carrie would do anything that would affect her sales...
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Post by zaclord on Jul 1, 2008 12:41:41 GMT -5
I actually, thinking about it, am wondering if she's older than you think. Let's say she's 21 and her husband has died. I think the wedding scene is a flashback. Funerals can be held in churches, and so that brought back the memories of the wedding, but the trumpets brought her back to reality. That's why she dropped the flowers, she "just couldn't believe it." wow i hadnt thought of that! that fits perfectly!
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Post by tigers19 on Jul 1, 2008 13:53:20 GMT -5
i think its her remembering the funeral which makes her look back on her wedding day which never actually happened (perhaps the same church etc.) i dont know it is a grat song but kind of cunfusing when you get deep into it. hopefully the video will give us a better idea.
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Post by drock89 on Jul 1, 2008 14:15:04 GMT -5
It's official. This goes for adds July 21, as reported by Music Row Magazine.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Jul 1, 2008 14:18:02 GMT -5
It's official. This goes for adds July 21, as reported by Music Row Magazine. ok now youve gone and totally miffed queensporsche. ;)
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Post by stuffy on Jul 1, 2008 15:18:13 GMT -5
I thought she was consumed with grief and in major denial. That's why she was wearing the white dress. She was supposed to be getting married, but instead she's going to a funeral. She's confused and has become a little lost inside the pain. I always saw the chorus as a continuation of that grief with her questioning why it happened and begging for it all to be just a dream.
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Post by Zach on Jul 1, 2008 17:50:07 GMT -5
Now that I've thought about it....anybody fear the "Arlington" effect on this song?
It really is a great song, but we are in a war right now and there are women going through this daily. I don't have a problem with the song, but how will they feel? Just a thought.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Jul 1, 2008 17:55:11 GMT -5
^^^I think they will appreciate the song, and the fact that Country music, and its fans are remembering and supporting their spouses/family who are fighting in the war.
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Post by kw9461 on Jul 1, 2008 18:14:16 GMT -5
Now that I've thought about it....anybody fear the "Arlington" effect on this song? It really is a great song, but we are in a war right now and there are women going through this daily. I don't have a problem with the song, but how will they feel? Just a thought. I don't think so. Arlington was told from the perspective of the deceased soldier, which made the song a bit too real for some people, especially those who had a soldier die. Plus when Arlington was pulled, the war hadn't been going on that long and was still a very sensitive subject (it still is today, just not to the same degree).
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Post by sbp17 on Jul 1, 2008 19:04:27 GMT -5
I think the video will help with the understanding of the lyrics. The release date is several weeks off but I anticipate it will be pointless since I'm sure this will quickly pick up spins once the word gets out.
(I updated the first post in the thread with pertinent information about the song. )
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Post by gcizvolsfan on Jul 1, 2008 21:31:40 GMT -5
do they give the flag to fiance if they aren't married yet? The Flag does not go to a fiance. It would go to the spouse and if they are not married then their Mother would recieve it. If both parents are deceased then it would go to a blood releative.
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Post by somebody60 on Jul 1, 2008 21:38:40 GMT -5
Well, the video I have in my head is the mother receiving the flag. It never does specify who "her" is during this part: "And then they handed her a folded up flag." That could be the mother.
I'm not going to spend paragraphs talking about my idea, but in my idea of the video, you have the mother of the deceased soldier and the fiance who are the main characters. Towards the end, the fiance thinks about jumping off a cliff committing suicide, but the mother (not her mother) stops her.
That could be too controversial, but I think it would make the song much more powerful and real.
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Post by zaclord on Jul 1, 2008 21:45:28 GMT -5
i really need to go back and listen to this song again! :o
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Post by Zach on Jul 1, 2008 22:06:28 GMT -5
I have enjoyed seeing how everyone sees this song, but I cannot help it that all of you are wrong! Haha, only kidding- great ideas.
I still stick to my original thought, however, that she does get married in the first verse and in the second verse her husband has died and, as I pointed out earlier, they then gave HER the flag because they were married- they would not give the flag to a girlfriend or anything, just relatives. While she may be mixing up memories with the church (marriage and funeral flashbacks clashing), she does indeed get married in the first part.
Also, the first few times I heard this song it sounded like she hadn't seen the guy in a while before she married him- maybe he was on duty and came in for a few weeks and they were to marry then- because she mentions a box of letters in the passenger seat. But then again, we could be mixing memories and she could be on the way to the funeral here.
We'll know when we see the video I reckon, haha!
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Post by ClevelandRox on Jul 2, 2008 0:07:38 GMT -5
^^ I agree, the first verse is really just like a flashback. On first listen, the singer thinks its a wedding, then realizes he's dead. I think it makes the first listen really stand out.
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Post by queensporsche on Jul 2, 2008 6:27:13 GMT -5
I still find it extremely odd that with an official release date only 19 days away that this song hasn't already been played at multiple radio stations. This is not the typical pattern of previous Carrie singles. "Wasted", "Before He Cheats", "So Small" and "All American Girl" were well-played weeks before the release dates. I wonder what they're waiting for. I have not even heard the song once on Sirius and that is unusual. Anyway, I find all of your musings about what this song is about interesting. I can honestly say I've only heard this song a couple of times, because it never was a favorite on the album, but if you listen to the lyrics, she never actually does get married because the soldier dies before they get the chance. That's why her life that she imagined having with him is all "Just a Dream". I'm looking forward to seeing this video, and perhaps that will make me like the song more.
By The Way, for those who are interested, and this will be the ONLY comment I make about this, so please don't ask any questions expecting an answer...The song I thought was going to be the next single was "You Won't Find This". Have a Nice Day!!!
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Post by drock89 on Jul 2, 2008 9:17:39 GMT -5
^ Like I said, I think this song is better kept off of radio at least until after July 4th. I think the holiday is better remembered with "God Bless the USA" and "Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue" than with "Just A Dream."
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 2, 2008 11:57:33 GMT -5
I actually, thinking about it, am wondering if she's older than you think. Let's say she's 21 and her husband has died. I think the wedding scene is a flashback. Funerals can be held in churches, and so that brought back the memories of the wedding, but the trumpets brought her back to reality. That's why she dropped the flowers, she "just couldn't believe it." Exactly. She's wearing white in the 1st verse, so that clearly is a wedding. I agree that she is snapped back to the present.
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Post by tigers19 on Jul 2, 2008 13:58:05 GMT -5
perhaps she's so distraught and grief-stricken that she is wearing her wedding outfit to the funeral b/c maybe she never got to wear it and then it would be in a perfect timeline.
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Post by queensporsche on Jul 3, 2008 0:34:34 GMT -5
It Happened! Tonight, at approximately 9:40 pm P.S.T., I heard this song on Sirius Satellite Radio. The funny thing is that I heard it during a REPLAY of the same program I thought I had listened to on Saturday night. I must have been out of my car at that moment because they definitely played it on Beyond The Buzz on Saturday night. I just missed it.
I had previously only listened to the song a couple of times even though I have the CD. It wasn't my immediate favorite, so I usually skipped it.. When I made a Carrie compilation CD I left it off. Boy was I ever WRONG!!! When I heard it tonight, for some reason I cranked it up and just really listened. Holy %&^(*&!! This song is amazing. But then you guys all already knew that. Now I'm kind of glad I haven't listened to it all that much because I won't be tired of it when it begins to be played regularly on the radio.
I was also thinking about the first verse of the song. Is it at all possible that she thinks she's going to a wedding and everyone is there waiting for her, her fiance had already been killed in the war, and she's the only one who hadn't heard yet. Perhaps they only just got word that night, and when she opened the church doors she was so shocked that the "flowers fell out of her hand". I don't know, I guess we'll see the video. Anyway, I'm completely sold on this song now, and hope that it is a huge hit and wins tons of awards. Have a nice night everyone.
EDIT: Special note to all Carrie Underwood Fans:
Sirius Satellite Radio Channel 60 New Country is doing a Carrie Underwood All-American Girl 4th of July Weekend. She came into their studio and did an interview, told stories about the songs, etc. They will be playing her album cuts and portions of that interview all weekend beginning Thursday at 5 PM EST.
If you don't have Sirius Radio and you've never tried it, but you'd like to catch portions of this, you can always sign up online for a free 3-day preview. It will cost you nothing and you don't have to give a credit card. I just thought I'd put this out there for all the Carrie Fans.
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Post by zaclord on Jul 3, 2008 10:05:59 GMT -5
queensporsche, i am so glad you finally like this! it is such a great song and i didnt know how anyone, let alone a big Carrie Underwood fan, could not love this one!
but i do have to disagree with your 3rd paragraph i dont think they would wait to tell the fiance that he was gone. the parents and her would be the first ones to find out, and to not tell her that he was dead and to make her think that she was going to her wedding and then when she gets there she finds him dead; that would be VERY harsh.
and i will be listening to SIRIUS today! i dont know if i will be able to catch the whole thing, but if you hear anything important or interesting please PM me or post it here! thanks!
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