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Post by joey2002 on Feb 17, 2009 0:33:45 GMT -5
I've heard that Kenny himself is quite strongly against releasing hits packages, so that's why there hasn't been another one. I don't remember the source offhand, but it was a quite awhile ago that I heard that. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised to see one come soon. yes that is true, and he had a lot of pressure from the record label to release a second greatest hits album instead of lucky old sun ($$$$$). personally i love his latest island style cd, so i'm glad that he stood firm...according to kenny he wanted to release songs that spoke of who he is right now in his present life.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 17, 2009 11:45:36 GMT -5
according to kenny he wanted to release songs that spoke of who he is right now in his present life. It's refreshing to see that sort of introspection from an artist. Kenny is hardly the best singer out there, and for a while I was getting sick of all the beach songs. Not only has he finally gotten three #1's in a row (he's had a history of singles that somehow got stuck at #2 even though a #1 should've been easy money*), he's also doing it with above average material. "Better as a Memory" shows that he can be convincing on ballads; "Everybody Wants to Go to Heaven" is delightfully tongue-in-cheek; and "Down the Road"... well, it's a Mac McAnally song, how can it NOT be top notch? *For instance, "Who You'd Be Today" spent several weeks at #2 behind both "Come a Little Closer" AND "Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off".
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 17, 2009 13:27:46 GMT -5
according to kenny he wanted to release songs that spoke of who he is right now in his present life. It's refreshing to see that sort of introspection from an artist. Kenny is hardly the best singer out there, and for a while I was getting sick of all the beach songs. Not only has he finally gotten three #1's in a row (he's had a history of singles that somehow got stuck at #2 even though a #1 should've been easy money*), he's also doing it with above average material. "Better as a Memory" shows that he can be convincing on ballads; "Everybody Wants to Go to Heaven" is delightfully tongue-in-cheek; and "Down the Road"... well, it's a Mac McAnally song, how can it NOT be top notch? *For instance, "Who You'd Be Today" spent several weeks at #2 behind both "Come a Little Closer" AND "Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off". "Who You'd Be Today" is such a classic...not to mention "I Go Back", which also spent a bunch of weeks at #2. Kenny is a great down-to-earth guy, which is rare and refreshing to see like you said.
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Post by rowdawg21 on Feb 17, 2009 14:50:38 GMT -5
It's refreshing to see that sort of introspection from an artist. Kenny is hardly the best singer out there, and for a while I was getting sick of all the beach songs. Not only has he finally gotten three #1's in a row (he's had a history of singles that somehow got stuck at #2 even though a #1 should've been easy money*), he's also doing it with above average material. "Better as a Memory" shows that he can be convincing on ballads; "Everybody Wants to Go to Heaven" is delightfully tongue-in-cheek; and "Down the Road"... well, it's a Mac McAnally song, how can it NOT be top notch? *For instance, "Who You'd Be Today" spent several weeks at #2 behind both "Come a Little Closer" AND "Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall Off". "Who You'd Be Today" is such a classic...not to mention "I Go Back", which also spent a bunch of weeks at #2. Kenny is a great down-to-earth guy, which is rare and refreshing to see like you said. I might be the biggest Kenny fan on this board, but I disagree with a couple of things you said. I think "Who You'd Be Today" was alright, but it's far from a classic. This can be shown by the relatively poor recurrent play it has gotten. I'm also not sure I would call Kenny a "great down-to-earth guy." I don't know him personally of course, but I wouldn't describe him that way given some of the stories I've heard about him. That being said, it won't stop me from buying his music and attending his concerts. As for "I Go Back," I'll agree with you there. It's easily my favorite Kenny song, and it would have been a multiple week #1 if it weren't for "Live Like You Were Dying," which was certainly deserving of being a multiple week #1. At least "I Go Back" fared better than "Whiskey Lullaby," which got stuck behind both LLYWD and IGB. As for the future singles of this album, I'm not sure what I would release next. When I first heard the album, I predicted it would produce two #1 singles - "Everybody Wants To Go To Heaven" and "Down The Road" (and this was before "Down The Road" was released). I'll stick to that prediction now; I don't see anymore #1 singles on this album.
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Post by someguy on Feb 17, 2009 14:53:40 GMT -5
I don't see another #1 either, however I would say that "Ten With A Two" or "I'm Alive" would be his best shot. I actually hope they go with "I'm Alive" or "Way Down Here". I don't think WDH is a #1, but I do think it is a very good song.
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Post by Jonsolo on Feb 17, 2009 15:05:51 GMT -5
I don't see another #1 either, however I would say that "Ten With A Two" or "I'm Alive" would be his best shot. I actually hope they go with "I'm Alive" or "Way Down Here". I don't think WDH is a #1, but I do think it is a very good song. I've only listened to the album a couple of times all the way through, so I'll go with rowdawg's and someguy's assessments, and will go so far to say that I hope there's a #2-peaking song on the album, to give him eleven for his career and get him ever-so-closer to Eddy and Conway's record total of 12.
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 17, 2009 17:50:47 GMT -5
I don't see another #1 either, however I would say that "Ten With A Two" or "I'm Alive" would be his best shot. I actually hope they go with "I'm Alive" or "Way Down Here". I don't think WDH is a #1, but I do think it is a very good song. I think any song they release next (most likely "i'm alive" or "ten with a two") will hit the top 3 at least. I would love to see "Way Down Here", "Spirit of a Storm", or "Nowhere to Go, Nowhere to Be" released next, but i doubt they will be. I think "Spirit of a Storm" could be the forth single released and a #1 hit possibly.
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Post by zaclord on Feb 19, 2009 20:12:26 GMT -5
i would bet anything that "Ten With A Two" and "Way Down Here" are the next 2 singles off this album in that precise order
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Post by Lee on Feb 20, 2009 1:18:21 GMT -5
i would bet anything that "Ten With A Two" and "Way Down Here" are the next 2 singles off this album in that precise order I hope you are right. Those are really the only other tracks I like to listen to.
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 20, 2009 2:31:50 GMT -5
i listen to "way down here" about 10 times each night...it's such a relaxing song!!!!!
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 20, 2009 13:07:28 GMT -5
"Ten with a Two" would be an interesting choice, in part because it'd give him two covers in a row that outpeaked the original. (For the record, I haven't bought a Chesney album since When the Sun Goes Down. He's hardly a priority artist for me.)
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 20, 2009 14:18:52 GMT -5
who originally released "Ten With a Two"?
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 20, 2009 14:59:01 GMT -5
who originally released "Ten With a Two"? Willie "I'll do a duet with anybody" Nelson.
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 20, 2009 15:04:43 GMT -5
lol didn't he originally record "lucky old sun" also...
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 20, 2009 15:24:57 GMT -5
lol didn't he originally record "lucky old sun" also... No, that song was made famous by Frankie Laine.
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Post by Jonsolo on Feb 20, 2009 17:28:15 GMT -5
With Toby's God Love Her remaining steadily at #1 on the Real Time Tracker, it looks like this one will only get one week at the top (barring an immediate plunge by Toby, enabling a steady Kenny to return to the top one week later). You know there's a revolving door in place, when even a heavy hitter like Kenny is only able to manage two, two, and one week stays at #1 with his last three singles. He's marching steadily toward the 20-career-#1s milestone, but it's pretty much killing his once-snazzy "weeks per #1" average.
Last year at this time, he had 52 total weeks at #1, for his 13 chart-topping songs, for a 4.00 weeks per #1 average. Now, he's up to 57 weeks for his 16 #1s, and the average has plummeted to 3.56 weeks per #1. Still impressive enough, and it's good for the 13th highest "#1 week average" in history, among artists with at least seven #1s, and the highest for any artist that has earned all of his #1s since 1960. But at this rate, he'll be down to a 3.00 average right around the time he scores his 22nd or 23rd #1.
Even the rich are feeling the economic downturn...
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 20, 2009 18:08:24 GMT -5
Yeah what is going on with all these 1 or 2 week #1's? We haven't seen a song stay more than 3 weeks at the top for well over a year now...
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Post by Jonsolo on Feb 20, 2009 18:15:52 GMT -5
Yeah what is going on with all these 1 or 2 week #1's? We haven't seen a song stay more than 3 weeks at the top for well over a year now... Well, to be precise, it's been 37 weeks, since Brad finished his three-week stay from 5/31/08 to 6/14/08, with I'm Still A Guy. But I could easily see it stretching out to well over a year, if Darius or the Flatts (the next possible candidates for 3-weekers) fall short of that length of a #1 stay.
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 20, 2009 21:12:11 GMT -5
i wonder if john rich might break the streak...that song is totally cruising up the charts.
so why do you think the charts have been so crazy with these "one and done" songs? i wonder if "amazed" got released now if it would get 2 weeks at the top and then start falling again...LoL
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Post by Zazie on Feb 20, 2009 21:45:35 GMT -5
Jonsolo has a well-developed and logical thesis about why we're seeing one-weekers, but I'll let him be the one to explain it.
I don't see why Keith Urban couldn't get 3 weeks at #1, although a couple of things will have to break right for him to do it, starting with Toby being ready to fall next week. I wouldn't give him better than a 25% chance to do it. But that's not a bad chance. RF would be a fine candidate but they'd have to open a big lead on Carrie in order to last 3 weeks. I'd bet against that.
And sure, I think Amazed would have a restricted run at #1 if it were released this year. It would have been a two- or three-weeker (at best) back in 1982 or a lot of other years as well. The long run it had was due to its release during an era of long-running #1 songs, not because it was such a great song.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Feb 20, 2009 22:11:39 GMT -5
I think it's a combination of factors. For one thing, knocking the recurrent rule to #10 has sped things up a little, and the two-week rule has made things even faster still, almost to 1998 speed. Maybe the panel is starting to tilt a little more towards stations that aren't so keen on playing former #1's 75 times a day long after they've fallen from Top 10.
Also, a lot of the material being released lately hasn't exactly screamed "long shelf life". Some songs get a big, big push just because they're by a certain artist, then the bottom drops out because the song may not be exactly radio friendly, or just plain forgettable.
Or maybe the recurrent rule is part of it, since it seems to becausing everything to stack a little differently. I've noticed that a song that gets a fairly easy run to Top 20 can usually get Top 10, and with fewer former Top 10s to plow through on the way up the single digits, it has an easier shot at #1.
Of course, we're still getting a few peaks in the 11-20 range, but these usually tend to be the ones that struggled for their whole chart run, like "Let Me", "Last Call", "Lookin' for a Good Time", etc. Maybe that's the trick, just don't release a song whose title begins with an L.
So in short, I think that the constant changeover at #1 has multiple factors.
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 20, 2009 22:37:01 GMT -5
I don't see why Keith Urban couldn't get 3 weeks at #1, although a couple of things will have to break right for him to do it, starting with Toby being ready to fall next week. I wouldn't give him better than a 25% chance to do it. But that's not a bad chance. RF would be a fine candidate but they'd have to open a big lead on Carrie in order to last 3 weeks. I'd bet against that. i think rascal flatts will most likely get 2 weeks, carrie might get 1, and keith urban should get 2. i just can't see any of them breaking this streak. i'm gonna bet on john rich being the first one to get 3 weeks, although he might run into some tougher competition once he gets into the top 10 and top 5. his song is the most unpredictable on the charts i think...
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Post by gcizvolsfan on Feb 20, 2009 23:26:21 GMT -5
I did not care for Kenny much the last few years, but this is the 3rd song in a row that I have liked and am glad it got to #1.
I think Keith has the best shot at having a song get that 3rd week at #1. He should follow Toby to the top and both Darius and Taylor are quite a bit behind him. I say "should" because we saw how they slowed down YLGIMS and it did not make #1 because of it. That song should have easily got 3-4 weeks at the top.
I see the John Rich song as being a fad song. Meaning that it will rise fast and then drop even faster. If it does make #1 it will not last more than two weeks and then the bottom will fall out. It will be gone long before the 20 week mark.
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Post by Jonsolo on Feb 23, 2009 13:53:51 GMT -5
Jonsolo has a well-developed and logical thesis about why we're seeing one-weekers, but I'll let him be the one to explain it. The "logical thesis" of mine about why we're having all these one-week #1 songs, that Zazie was referring to, was posted here. There has to be some reason for it, and that was what I could come up with at the time. Toby's the new #1, giving us eight songs to advance to the top spot in 2009, and the eighth song didn't hit #1 in 2008 until the 5/31/08 chart, Brad's I'm Still A Guy. So we're already over two months ahead of last year's pace. If you're going by "chart year", December to November, Toby is the 10th #1 song of 2009. Going by that same calendar, Brad was also the 10th #1 of 2008's chart year. Back in December, Zazie and I were speculating how many #1s there would be in 2009, with the apparently faster turnaround at the top. I had guessed that we'd have 28, and Zazie had said 33. Looks like even his guess will be too low.
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 23, 2009 14:51:53 GMT -5
Yeah that is a good theory...it's probably true as more and more people download on Itunes and Rhapsody type sites instead of buying the CD.
I think we might see a few songs soon that will at least be "multi weekers" - such as "Sweet Thing", "Here Comes Goodbye", "Shuttin Detroit Down", and possibly carrie underwood's single from her next album later in the year. It might be a long time before we see another month long #1 song though. the only possibility in the near future i could see is John Rich, but that would be a long shot...
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Post by Zazie on Feb 23, 2009 16:14:24 GMT -5
Arbitrarily dividing up the year into quarters (roughly), I'll call the first 8 #1 songs of the chart year (starting in December, I'm a Billboard guy) the "first quarter." And in that quarter we had 4 one-weekers and 4 two-weekers at the top. (Sugarland, Brad/Keith, AJ, Dierks; Zac, MG, RF, Blake are the songs.)
So if we kept on averaging 1.5 weeks per #1 song, that would get us to 32 #1's in 48 weeks with 4 weeks to go in the year -- just have to fit in one 4-weeker to get me to 33 exactly.
But let's wait and see. The second quarter, the way I'm breaking it up, will be the Big 3 (Kenny, Toby, Urban), Darius and whoever else makes it from his little group, and then the Rodney-Timmy-RF-Carrie group. That should get us close to the end of May. We'll see what the weeks-per-#1 looks like then.
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Post by joey2002 on Feb 23, 2009 20:26:26 GMT -5
how many weeks did "don't blink" stay at #1 on billboard? I know on bob kingsley's CT 40 it spent 6 weeks...but i don't think it made that many on R&R/billboard
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Post by drock89 on Feb 23, 2009 21:20:30 GMT -5
how many weeks did "don't blink" stay at #1 on billboard? I know on bob kingsley's CT 40 it spent 6 weeks...but i don't think it made that many on R&R/billboard Four weeks, from October 27 to November 17. He was replaced by Dierks Bentley's "Free and Easy (Down The Road I Go)."
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Post by rowdawg21 on Mar 6, 2009 15:49:36 GMT -5
This is from Country Aircheck's recap of CRS last night: Kenny Chesney took the stage first, reading lyrics as he and songwriter Brett James previewed the BNA artist's upcoming single "We Went Out Last Night." ------------------------ Has anyone been able to find any information about this? I'm wondering if "upcoming single" means next single. If it is, then I would expect this song to be the lead single from the rumored Greatest Hits 2 album. Edit: Here's a clip of the song from last night.
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Post by zaclord on Mar 6, 2009 17:37:54 GMT -5
done with "Lucky Old Sun" already? very VERY smart move.
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