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Post by atlantaboy on Jan 20, 2009 19:01:45 GMT -5
^Yeah I've only downloaded a few songs but sounds like they have a whole stock of CHR/HAC hits, and another whole stock of Rock Format hits (which can't be a bad thing for 'em I guess...)
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Post by - d!Va - on Jan 20, 2009 19:13:11 GMT -5
classic nickelback sound = HIT!
and this will be HUGE on hot AC
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 21, 2009 15:14:00 GMT -5
I think, when all is said and done, "Dark Horse" will finish up at triple-platinum status. That's STILL incredibly impressive for a band in this day in age although, by their own standards, it'll appear underwhelming a number to many.
The reason "All The Right Reasons" was a colossal success is because they were well-aware their crossover hits "How You Remind Me" and "Someday" from previous eras had drawn a new, diversifying audience to them, and so had a keen, instinctual read of their new audience and, despite being a tight, 11-song set, it nonetheless is a perfect representation of their fanbase. You had hard-rock songs ("Side Of A Bullet", "Follow You Home") you had soft, mainstream-friendly songs ("Photograph", "If Everyone Cared") and something in-between ("Rockstar").
But I believe the much more important reason why "All The Right Reasons" was a commercial behemoth is not necessarily because it was audience-diverse; it's because it was topically-diverse. You have more masculine songs ("Animals", "Next Contestant") while you had more feminine songs as well ("Far Away", "If Everyone Cared"). You have a song that shows their sense of humor ("Rockstar") and a song that dwells into the serious issue of murder ("Side Of A Bullet"). You have songs dwelling in nostalgia/the past ("Photograph") and songs pleading to move beyond ("Savin' Me"). Add to that the dripping of Americana throughout much of the album and, in just eleven songs they couldn't have done a better job delivering to every part of their fanbase, giving voice to a breadth of general topics, and THAT is why it sold boatloads.
In contrast, "Dark Horse" feels more limited, and slanted, topically. While I happen to believe the musicianship is superior on this album than it was on "All The Right Reasons" (especially with the solos on several tracks and more texturally-diverse riffs that nod to 80's hair-metal)........."Dark Horse" also isn't as representative of their fanbase as a whole as "All The Right Reasons" was. Just short of half the songs obsess over sexual/carnal topics, while just short of the other half are comprised too excessively of power ballads, and then you have only two odd songs out: "This Afternoon" (which is basically the "Rockstar" of this album) and "Just To Get High", an anti-drug rocker.
So in other words, virtually all the heavier, Active Rock-geared songs focus on the same theme of sex, prostitution and adult situations (aside from "Just To Get High") and all the Top 40-friendly songs are power ballads and focus too heavily on finding and being devoted to that special someone (exception being "If Today Was Your Last Day", which even that song has a second and third chorus extension nodding to that theme).
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That said, this and "If Today Was Your Last Day" are their best bets for mass airplay this era, and while I would have preferred the latter be released first, as it doesn't have that power-ballad vibe both the former and "Gotta Be Somebody" do, "I'd Come For You" will still likely work.
Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 21, 2009 15:18:25 GMT -5
well remember that Something In Your Mouth is still carrying them up there heavy on Active Rock, doing really well, if that can go #1 it'll save their rock cred for at least 1 more album I really think this can be a banner album at rock if the right songs are released. Release Burn It To the Ground, Just To Get High, S.E.X. and/or Shakin Hands after SIYM and they could have a whole slew of #1's on Active from this album, imo. Seriously, half of the Dark Horse album just screams Active smash after smash. I think Nickelback can potentially be more successful this era in terms of single placements on Active Rock than during the "All The Right Reasons" era. But, yes, it simply will depend on their single release strategy. This is how I would have released their singles, following the first two releases: * 1: "Gotta Be Somebody"2: "Something In Your Mouth"3: "If Today Was Your Last Day" (The only ballad on the album not dominated by the topic of love. Release this first to spread out the ballads focusing on love) 4: "Just To Get High" ("Shakin' Hands" is catchier, but releasing two raunchy tracks back-to-back on the same format would be pushing it, and like with my earlier posting, they need to showcase their topical diversity in their single selections as best as they can) 5: "I'd Come For You" (The more accessible ballad over "Never Gonna Be Alone", in my opinion) 6: "Shakin' Hands" (In my opinion the second catchiest heavy song on the album, where everyone I know can't get that silly hook "She's no Cinderella when she's gettin' undressed, cuz she rocks it like the naughty Wicked Witch of the West" out of their heads! ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) ) 7: "This Afternoon" (Ditch "Never Gonna Be Alone" entirely and release this instead. Topically it's something multiple formats can sink their teeth into, and a comfortable respite from the serious topics dominating Top 40 radio today) 8: "Burn It To The Ground" (If the album manages to show longevity up to this point, can't go wrong with one final rock release) * Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by rfucom on Jan 22, 2009 2:49:33 GMT -5
I really think this can be a banner album at rock if the right songs are released. Release Burn It To the Ground, Just To Get High, S.E.X. and/or Shakin Hands after SIYM and they could have a whole slew of #1's on Active from this album, imo. Seriously, half of the Dark Horse album just screams Active smash after smash. I think Nickelback can potentially be more successful this era in terms of single placements on Active Rock than during the "All The Right Reasons" era. But, yes, it simply will depend on their single release strategy. This is how I would have released their singles, following the first two releases: * 1: "Gotta Be Somebody"2: "Something In Your Mouth"3: "If Today Was Your Last Day" (The only ballad on the album not dominated by the topic of love. Release this first to spread out the ballads focusing on love) 4: "Just To Get High" ("Shakin' Hands" is catchier, but releasing two raunchy tracks back-to-back on the same format would be pushing it, and like with my earlier posting, they need to showcase their topical diversity in their single selections as best as they can) 5: "I'd Come For You" (The more accessible ballad over "Never Gonna Be Alone", in my opinion) 6: "Shakin' Hands" (In my opinion the second catchiest heavy song on the album, where everyone I know can't get that silly hook "She's no Cinderella when she's gettin' undressed, cuz she rocks it like the naughty Wicked Witch of the West" out of their heads! ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) ) 7: "This Afternoon" (Ditch "Never Gonna Be Alone" entirely and release this instead. Topically it's something multiple formats can sink their teeth into, and a comfortable respite from the serious topics dominating Top 40 radio today) 8: "Burn It To The Ground" (If the album manages to show longevity up to this point, can't go wrong with one final rock release) * Sincerely, Noah Eaton wow very good recommendations and suggestion. bravo !
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Post by aTunes on Jan 22, 2009 3:21:31 GMT -5
I really think this can be a banner album at rock if the right songs are released. Release Burn It To the Ground, Just To Get High, S.E.X. and/or Shakin Hands after SIYM and they could have a whole slew of #1's on Active from this album, imo. Seriously, half of the Dark Horse album just screams Active smash after smash. I think Nickelback can potentially be more successful this era in terms of single placements on Active Rock than during the "All The Right Reasons" era. But, yes, it simply will depend on their single release strategy. This is how I would have released their singles, following the first two releases: * 1: "Gotta Be Somebody"2: "Something In Your Mouth"3: "If Today Was Your Last Day" (The only ballad on the album not dominated by the topic of love. Release this first to spread out the ballads focusing on love) 4: "Just To Get High" ("Shakin' Hands" is catchier, but releasing two raunchy tracks back-to-back on the same format would be pushing it, and like with my earlier posting, they need to showcase their topical diversity in their single selections as best as they can) 5: "I'd Come For You" (The more accessible ballad over "Never Gonna Be Alone", in my opinion) 6: "Shakin' Hands" (In my opinion the second catchiest heavy song on the album, where everyone I know can't get that silly hook "She's no Cinderella when she's gettin' undressed, cuz she rocks it like the naughty Wicked Witch of the West" out of their heads! ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) ) 7: "This Afternoon" (Ditch "Never Gonna Be Alone" entirely and release this instead. Topically it's something multiple formats can sink their teeth into, and a comfortable respite from the serious topics dominating Top 40 radio today) 8: "Burn It To The Ground" (If the album manages to show longevity up to this point, can't go wrong with one final rock release) * Sincerely, Noah Eaton I 100% agree with those singles, but not in that order. I'd do it: 1. Gotta Be Somebody [All formats]2. Something In Your Mouth [Rock]3. I'd Come For You [CHR/HAC] (I think this is the right next single, since this has a ton of pop potential, and winter's the best time for a ballad. ) 4. Burn It To the Ground [Rock] (I'd prefer to see this next after SIYM, since I think it's the 2nd biggest Active smash on the album) 5. This Afternoon [All formats (including Country)] (This would be a great summer smash ala Rockstar. If Burn It To the Ground is still rising on rock when this goes for CHR adds, then just wait until it's done and then send it to rock. Also this needs to go to Country, imo. ) 6. If Today Was Your Last Day [CHR/HAC] (I don't see this as a rock hit personally, so skip that format altogether and just send it to CHR/HAC. Should be a hit there.) 7. Just To Get High [Rock] (after the raunchy/fun tone of SIYM, BITTG, and TA, this would be a great change of pace for them at rock.) 8. Shakin' Hands [Rock] (Close the album at rock with this. S.E.X. would work too, but this is the catchier of the two.) Possible single: 9. Never Gonna Be Alone [CHR/HAC] (If they want a 5th CHR single, here it is. I really don't care whether or not this is released though.)
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 22, 2009 15:07:09 GMT -5
I think Nickelback can potentially be more successful this era in terms of single placements on Active Rock than during the "All The Right Reasons" era. But, yes, it simply will depend on their single release strategy. This is how I would have released their singles, following the first two releases: * 1: "Gotta Be Somebody"2: "Something In Your Mouth"3: "If Today Was Your Last Day" (The only ballad on the album not dominated by the topic of love. Release this first to spread out the ballads focusing on love) 4: "Just To Get High" ("Shakin' Hands" is catchier, but releasing two raunchy tracks back-to-back on the same format would be pushing it, and like with my earlier posting, they need to showcase their topical diversity in their single selections as best as they can) 5: "I'd Come For You" (The more accessible ballad over "Never Gonna Be Alone", in my opinion) 6: "Shakin' Hands" (In my opinion the second catchiest heavy song on the album, where everyone I know can't get that silly hook "She's no Cinderella when she's gettin' undressed, cuz she rocks it like the naughty Wicked Witch of the West" out of their heads! ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) ) 7: "This Afternoon" (Ditch "Never Gonna Be Alone" entirely and release this instead. Topically it's something multiple formats can sink their teeth into, and a comfortable respite from the serious topics dominating Top 40 radio today) 8: "Burn It To The Ground" (If the album manages to show longevity up to this point, can't go wrong with one final rock release) * Sincerely, Noah Eaton I 100% agree with those singles, but not in that order. I'd do it: 1. Gotta Be Somebody [All formats]2. Something In Your Mouth [Rock]3. I'd Come For You [CHR/HAC] (I think this is the right next single, since this has a ton of pop potential, and winter's the best time for a ballad. ) 4. Burn It To the Ground [Rock] (I'd prefer to see this next after SIYM, since I think it's the 2nd biggest Active smash on the album) 5. This Afternoon [All formats (including Country)] (This would be a great summer smash ala Rockstar. If Burn It To the Ground is still rising on rock when this goes for CHR adds, then just wait until it's done and then send it to rock. Also this needs to go to Country, imo. ) 6. If Today Was Your Last Day [CHR/HAC] (I don't see this as a rock hit personally, so skip that format altogether and just send it to CHR/HAC. Should be a hit there.) 7. Just To Get High [Rock] (after the raunchy/fun tone of SIYM, BITTG, and TA, this would be a great change of pace for them at rock.) 8. Shakin' Hands [Rock] (Close the album at rock with this. S.E.X. would work too, but this is the catchier of the two.) Possible single: 9. Never Gonna Be Alone [CHR/HAC] (If they want a 5th CHR single, here it is. I really don't care whether or not this is released though.) I understand your point about how "This Afternoon" would make an appropriate summer release, and I also agree it has potential to garner significant Country airplay. Ultimately, though, I don't think it necessarily matters when either of these tracks are released. "Far Away" from their previous album was actually released in the summer of 2006. "Savin' Me" was also released in mid-spring of that year and peaked during that summer. Indeed I've noticed, on Country radio particularly, that more upbeat songs about escapism and drinking tend to chart remarkably well when it's not summertime. For instance, "Beer In Mexico" was released in the winter of 2007 and reached #1 on Billboard's Country chart in April 2007. In a way, I think songs about lounging back and having a good time are arguably MORE likely to succeed when it isn't summertime on the Country chart, because indeed almost anyone is pining for summer to return, and songs like that feed into those fantasies. "This Afternoon" is just as likely to succeed as an official release in December than it would in June. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Cody on Jan 22, 2009 15:30:09 GMT -5
ITWYLD would do fine on rock
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 22, 2009 15:39:37 GMT -5
ITWYLD would do fine on rock At best it would peak near where "Savin' Me" peaked, just outside the Top Ten at Active Rock. It's preferable they don't release it there and just stick with the heavy ammunition there. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Cody on Jan 22, 2009 22:54:13 GMT -5
yeah but at the same time the label isnt gonna spend money to release 9 singles
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 23, 2009 0:33:52 GMT -5
yeah but at the same time the label isnt gonna spend money to release 9 singles Yeah, it's too bad it isn't like the mid-80's to early-90's, when a rock artist could chart multiple album tracks at high positions without ever being released as singles. Can you imagine Nickelback flourishing during the same time Tom Petty and John Mellencamp were dominating what is now the Modern Rock format? If they were able to get as many as three album tracks to chart per album, Nickelback could have gotten away with making virtually "All The Right Reasons" in its entirety to chart! :o Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by mcbrearty on Jan 23, 2009 9:13:37 GMT -5
yeah but at the same time the label isnt gonna spend money to release 9 singles That depends on how other singles perform, I mean "All the Right Reasons" had countless single releases.
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Post by jmac on Jan 23, 2009 16:10:22 GMT -5
Hmm. That's weird, because my local station has been playing NGBA every 10 minutes.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jan 23, 2009 19:50:00 GMT -5
Hmm. That's weird, because my local station has been playing NGBA every 10 minutes. Yeah I can't imagine CHR and HAC not jumpin on Never Gonna Be Alone (just seems like a really well written song that can mean different things to different pop listeners)...IMO the Rock Formats usually have no prob. "tryin out" different tracks on a hit CD, but def. don't think Rock Format releases will affect order of singles on CHR/HAC (or the number of singles released to pop) IMO If Today Was Your Last Day is kinda too simple...it makes a point, but kinda beats it to death (and seems like that point has been made before, I guess in songs like Live Like You Were Dying) - maybe minor release on pop and rock formats, but just can't see it lasting Still gotta hear ICFY though Oh yeah also really not sure the seasons'll have much to do with the release order since only half the country really has a standard winter, spring, summer, etc...def. makes me miss havin seasons though ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0270.gif)
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Post by aTunes on Jan 24, 2009 12:47:19 GMT -5
yeah but at the same time the label isnt gonna spend money to release 9 singles That depends on how other singles perform, I mean "All the Right Reasons" had countless single releases. Yeah, AtRR had 7 singles. The singles released to rock don't cost the label much at all, because they require almost no promo or music video. If the songs are doing great at rock, they'd be stupid not to release a set of separate singles there. NGBA doesn't need to be released if they don't want to pony up the dough, so that would just give them 4 songs that they really have to spend any money on. The other four would be rock radio only.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jan 24, 2009 16:06:36 GMT -5
NGBA doesn't need to be released if they don't want to pony up the dough, so that would just give them 4 songs that they really have to spend any money on. Just wonderin what else you think they'd release to pop before NGBA (besides GBS, ICFY, and I guess ITWYLD)
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Post by aTunes on Jan 24, 2009 16:37:57 GMT -5
^The 3 you said and TA. 4 hits would be more than enough from a band like them at pop.
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on Jan 24, 2009 16:49:27 GMT -5
I really like this song. Mutt did a great job with the production on this record.
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Post by blurple on Jan 24, 2009 17:06:45 GMT -5
Yep, This Afternoon could do well on Pop. Actually, I think JTGH can also fit the Top 40 format.
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Post by mcbrearty on Jan 24, 2009 18:38:19 GMT -5
Yeah I think JTGH , would be a real ballsy top 40 release and could actually do well. But its never gonna happen. Is it ?
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Post by blurple on Jan 24, 2009 18:41:19 GMT -5
^ Doubt it unless they get Rihanna or some random rapper to duet on it. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) It's too deep for Top 40 radio lol. ![:d](http://images.proboards.com/cheesy.gif)
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Post by aTunes on Jan 24, 2009 18:42:37 GMT -5
Yeah I too think JTGH has pop potential, but I highly doubt they would take the risk. Maybe it is too heavy for pop, but the hook is very catchy though.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Jan 25, 2009 6:57:10 GMT -5
when this goes for adds?
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Post by fran182 on Jan 25, 2009 13:38:07 GMT -5
Bought my copy of "Dark Horse" yesterday. :)
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Jan 26, 2009 1:24:21 GMT -5
I really like this. I hope this is big for them. I think it will go top 10, at least.
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Post by Ragin on Jan 26, 2009 8:52:40 GMT -5
I think, when all is said and done, "Dark Horse" will finish up at triple-platinum status. That's STILL incredibly impressive for a band in this day in age although, by their own standards, it'll appear underwhelming a number to many. The reason "All The Right Reasons" was a colossal success is because they were well-aware their crossover hits "How You Remind Me" and "Someday" from previous eras had drawn a new, diversifying audience to them, and so had a keen, instinctual read of their new audience and, despite being a tight, 11-song set, it nonetheless is a perfect representation of their fanbase. You had hard-rock songs ("Side Of A Bullet", "Follow You Home") you had soft, mainstream-friendly songs ("Photograph", "If Everyone Cared") and something in-between ("Rockstar"). But I believe the much more important reason why "All The Right Reasons" was a commercial behemoth is not necessarily because it was audience-diverse; it's because it was topically-diverse. You have more masculine songs ("Animals", "Next Contestant") while you had more feminine songs as well ("Far Away", "If Everyone Cared"). You have a song that shows their sense of humor ("Rockstar") and a song that dwells into the serious issue of murder ("Side Of A Bullet"). You have songs dwelling in nostalgia/the past ("Photograph") and songs pleading to move beyond ("Savin' Me"). Add to that the dripping of Americana throughout much of the album and, in just eleven songs they couldn't have done a better job delivering to every part of their fanbase, giving voice to a breadth of general topics, and THAT is why it sold boatloads. In contrast, "Dark Horse" feels more limited, and slanted, topically. While I happen to believe the musicianship is superior on this album than it was on "All The Right Reasons" (especially with the solos on several tracks and more texturally-diverse riffs that nod to 80's hair-metal)........."Dark Horse" also isn't as representative of their fanbase as a whole as "All The Right Reasons" was. Just short of half the songs obsess over sexual/carnal topics, while just short of the other half are comprised too excessively of power ballads, and then you have only two odd songs out: "This Afternoon" (which is basically the "Rockstar" of this album) and "Just To Get High", an anti-drug rocker. So in other words, virtually all the heavier, Active Rock-geared songs focus on the same theme of sex, prostitution and adult situations (aside from "Just To Get High") and all the Top 40-friendly songs are power ballads and focus too heavily on finding and being devoted to that special someone (exception being "If Today Was Your Last Day", which even that song has a second and third chorus extension nodding to that theme). * That said, this and "If Today Was Your Last Day" are their best bets for mass airplay this era, and while I would have preferred the latter be released first, as it doesn't have that power-ballad vibe both the former and "Gotta Be Somebody" do, "I'd Come For You" will still likely work. Sincerely, Noah Eaton Nice analysis. However, there are more factors yet that have to do with a follow up. 1. It is incredibly difficult to meet expectations following an album like All The Right Reasons. It isn't good enough to be as good or close to as good as the songs on ATRR, now you have to either surpass them, or they have to be very different. Dark Horse does neither of these in my opinion, and where there is "different", I don't think it is a good different. 2. The saturation factor. We've barely had Nickelback-free radio and now we have new material. Rarely can you put out albums back to back and have the volume of singles they have and maintain that kind of popularity. 3. Nickelback is an old school, physical CD selling band. As music moves further and further away from this format, Nickelback's largest swath of fan and consumer, is still more likely to buy the physical CD. So even though 3 million might be GREAT for an artist today, it is a sharp decrease from ATRR, and would definitely indicate waning popularity. Regardless, I do agree that the song content is a huge turn-off for me, and might have as much to do with any decreases as anything else. And despite all of that analysis, it is still outpacing ATRR, and you may end up being way off on your 3 million prediction. A couple of huge hits at CHR and Rock, could change everything. It seems clear that the rock fans are still buying this and keeping it in the top 5 of the album charts, so can it continue?
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 27, 2009 13:42:54 GMT -5
Yep, This Afternoon could do well on Pop. Actually, I think JTGH can also fit the Top 40 format. I strongly disagree about the notion that "Just To Get High" would be Top 40-friendly. I think "Shakin' Hands" is the rock song most likely to have crossover appeal on "Dark Horse" for several reasons. Firstly, because it taps into a lyrical vein very similar to "Rockstar" and, secondly, because everyone I know seems to mouth the hook of that song more than almost any other lyric on the album (the "Naughty Wicked Witch of the West part! ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0244.gif) ) Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 27, 2009 13:55:23 GMT -5
I think, when all is said and done, "Dark Horse" will finish up at triple-platinum status. That's STILL incredibly impressive for a band in this day in age although, by their own standards, it'll appear underwhelming a number to many. The reason "All The Right Reasons" was a colossal success is because they were well-aware their crossover hits "How You Remind Me" and "Someday" from previous eras had drawn a new, diversifying audience to them, and so had a keen, instinctual read of their new audience and, despite being a tight, 11-song set, it nonetheless is a perfect representation of their fanbase. You had hard-rock songs ("Side Of A Bullet", "Follow You Home") you had soft, mainstream-friendly songs ("Photograph", "If Everyone Cared") and something in-between ("Rockstar"). But I believe the much more important reason why "All The Right Reasons" was a commercial behemoth is not necessarily because it was audience-diverse; it's because it was topically-diverse. You have more masculine songs ("Animals", "Next Contestant") while you had more feminine songs as well ("Far Away", "If Everyone Cared"). You have a song that shows their sense of humor ("Rockstar") and a song that dwells into the serious issue of murder ("Side Of A Bullet"). You have songs dwelling in nostalgia/the past ("Photograph") and songs pleading to move beyond ("Savin' Me"). Add to that the dripping of Americana throughout much of the album and, in just eleven songs they couldn't have done a better job delivering to every part of their fanbase, giving voice to a breadth of general topics, and THAT is why it sold boatloads. In contrast, "Dark Horse" feels more limited, and slanted, topically. While I happen to believe the musicianship is superior on this album than it was on "All The Right Reasons" (especially with the solos on several tracks and more texturally-diverse riffs that nod to 80's hair-metal)........."Dark Horse" also isn't as representative of their fanbase as a whole as "All The Right Reasons" was. Just short of half the songs obsess over sexual/carnal topics, while just short of the other half are comprised too excessively of power ballads, and then you have only two odd songs out: "This Afternoon" (which is basically the "Rockstar" of this album) and "Just To Get High", an anti-drug rocker. So in other words, virtually all the heavier, Active Rock-geared songs focus on the same theme of sex, prostitution and adult situations (aside from "Just To Get High") and all the Top 40-friendly songs are power ballads and focus too heavily on finding and being devoted to that special someone (exception being "If Today Was Your Last Day", which even that song has a second and third chorus extension nodding to that theme). * That said, this and "If Today Was Your Last Day" are their best bets for mass airplay this era, and while I would have preferred the latter be released first, as it doesn't have that power-ballad vibe both the former and "Gotta Be Somebody" do, "I'd Come For You" will still likely work. Sincerely, Noah Eaton Nice analysis. However, there are more factors yet that have to do with a follow up. 1. It is incredibly difficult to meet expectations following an album like All The Right Reasons. It isn't good enough to be as good or close to as good as the songs on ATRR, now you have to either surpass them, or they have to be very different. Dark Horse does neither of these in my opinion, and where there is "different", I don't think it is a good different. 2. The saturation factor. We've barely had Nickelback-free radio and now we have new material. Rarely can you put out albums back to back and have the volume of singles they have and maintain that kind of popularity. 3. Nickelback is an old school, physical CD selling band. As music moves further and further away from this format, Nickelback's largest swath of fan and consumer, is still more likely to buy the physical CD. So even though 3 million might be GREAT for an artist today, it is a sharp decrease from ATRR, and would definitely indicate waning popularity. Regardless, I do agree that the song content is a huge turn-off for me, and might have as much to do with any decreases as anything else. And despite all of that analysis, it is still outpacing ATRR, and you may end up being way off on your 3 million prediction. A couple of huge hits at CHR and Rock, could change everything. It seems clear that the rock fans are still buying this and keeping it in the top 5 of the album charts, so can it continue? I don't think saturation is as much a concern as is being suggested. "Photograph" was released not long after "Because Of You" completed its chart run on Active Rock radio. It's true "The Long Road" produced only one colossal hit and one minor hit on Top 40 radio, but they were nonetheless ubiquitous mainstays on VH1 and even MTV. I remember seeing the "Figured You Out" video frequently on even VH1 despite only charting on the rock formats, and had considerable longevity there. I absolutely agree with your third point, and the fact remains that Nickelback are largely a singles band. If they weren't, "Dark Horse" would have sold anywhere between 500K and one million copies in its debut week of release. It instead sold a trace more in its opening week compared to the opening week for "All The Right Reasons"; despite coming on the heels of an era where they collected five Top 20 hits on the Billboard Hot 100 and sold more albums than even "Silver Side Up". How "Dark Horse" holds up from here on out will depend almost entirely on how the follow-up singles perform. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Cody
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Post by Cody on Jan 27, 2009 14:43:43 GMT -5
To call Nickelback a singles band though is pretty much saying that well at this point their albums are quite amazing. Like for example ATRR had 7 singles out of 11 tracks, when 7 of 11 tracks on an album are really good, thats magnificent. And to be honest, I dont think we'll get any less from this album, we'll get 7-8 singles from Dark Horse easily, the album is still selling really well after a couple months now
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Post by mcbrearty on Feb 9, 2009 16:05:25 GMT -5
Music Video Update ![](http://yoursmiles.org/ssmile/fun/s0270.gif) NICKELBACK - I'd Come For You SHOT - 18th, 19th, 20th January 2009 CAST - Jessa Danielson (the girl), Craig Anderson (the boy), Don Broatch (the Dad). DIRECTOR - Nigel Dick www.nigeldick.com/films-2.htm
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