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Post by musicluver on Apr 23, 2009 13:15:26 GMT -5
From David's twitter:
Packing and getting ready to leave for the UK! And trying to figure out how to send twitter text things.
Sorry for those who had to listen to that excruciatingly unpleasant performance last night haha... I'll make sure that doesn't happen again!
Aw, David it wasn't that bad. I hope he'd sleep and not go to the UK haha
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Post by aTunes on Apr 23, 2009 13:38:24 GMT -5
From David's twitter: Packing and getting ready to leave for the UK! And trying to figure out how to send twitter text things.
Sorry for those who had to listen to that excruciatingly unpleasant performance last night haha... I'll make sure that doesn't happen again!Aw, David it wasn't that bad. I hope he'd sleep and not go to the UK haha No it definitely wasn't. Now I feel bad for him, lol.
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Post by Spacy-Haha on Apr 23, 2009 14:05:12 GMT -5
David always keeps it real! At least he's not sugarcoating it like some of his fans. Anyway this is a great song and should do better than altnoy.
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Post by tsw2008 on Apr 23, 2009 14:17:37 GMT -5
props to him, I appreciate people who keep it real, no sugarcoating.
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Post by Active Aggressive on Apr 23, 2009 14:19:05 GMT -5
I respect him for his honesty. He smiled through that painful performance (and y'all know how much of a fan I am of David...) and worked the stage well. Get better David so you can get back to crushing the competition with your vocals.
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Post by Rodze on Apr 23, 2009 14:23:04 GMT -5
The Cookies are back You make it sound so bad. Later on I watched it with my family and all of us thought it was great and fun. EW and MJ are the biggest Cook supporters I know...should I be surprised? The other press said he sounded good. It wasn't his best but c'mon the dude's been sick for a week and has just gotten back from Asia..most ppl I know who watched it actually enjoyed the performance *shocker* ^Michael Slezak from EW has nothing against Archie, he thought he had a great voice last year, but just got a bit boring as the season went on (which he did). Just because someone prefers Cook doesn't mean they hate Archie. umm..if you go to MJ the ppl are always bashing Archie (and coincidentally are big Cook fans) and EW does too..I mean they critized him for thanking too many ppl in his liner notes I'm not saying all Cook fans are like that but the ppl at EW and MJ are known for being biased just how the Vulture is biased towards Cook. ^Sorry then, it seemed like it was. I just get sick of not being able to have a criticism about him without getting stoned to death. I love Cook and Daughtry and Elliott probably more than anoy other AI alums, but I say negative things about them too sometimes. All of them have their faults. LOL. What is a " cookie?" Care to elaborate? I just didn't like the performance. It was probably his worst performance of TMH. Ever. And it just happened to be the one seen by 20 million people. That frustrates me, because I was really rooting for him to prove those h8trs wrong, and show all the progress he's made. Instead, he sang a tweeny bopper song, and didn't even sing it that well. I thought the whole thing was quite silly, and really amatuerish. I know that sounds harsh, but that's my sincere opinion. And the song still doesn't have an adds date or a single spin or any indication it will be sent to CHR radio. Lovely.
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Post by aTunes on Apr 23, 2009 16:12:01 GMT -5
^ You obviously have WAAAAY too much time on your hands. Other artists names are tossed around in every thread, it just happens. I guess we better lock every thread on Pulse if we're not allowed to even mention another artists name in a thread if it's not one of their songs.
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Post by Spacy-Haha on Apr 23, 2009 16:44:02 GMT -5
I am angry why he's not rested well since they know AI performance is coming for a while. What a lost opportunity! He should fire his management. Oh wait, that's his stage dad.
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Post by musicluver on Apr 23, 2009 16:54:08 GMT -5
I am angry why he's not rested well since they know AI performance is coming for a while. What a lost opportunity! He should fire his management. Oh wait, that's his stage dad. Are we still on that?! He had to swap his dates last minute w/ Jordin so Jordin can premiere her new single. He even had to cancel his first 2 UK tours for this performance. Everything was kinda last minute even the song choice I heard.
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Post by baobabs727 on Apr 23, 2009 17:06:20 GMT -5
Wow. That was soooo embarassing. I don't know how to say this gently, but I didn't like it at all. The vocal, the cheesiness, the outfit... not a fan of any of that. He's done so much better. What happened? You have got to be the single most insignificant, miserable speck of a carbon-based life form that God ever put on this planet. Your pronouncements (read: snarky, negative, ill-informed, transparent, repetitive, sniping rants) are insufferable in the extreme. It must be darned near impossible for you to even get out of bed each morning.
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Post by Ying&Yang on Apr 23, 2009 17:09:52 GMT -5
They should cancel his appearance at amusement park after learning the switch of AI appearance. Actually, his appearance at that park doesn't make much sense from beginning. He got sick before/during that trip. It's great risk to get sick from meeting hundreds of fans in later winter, especially after tours and international traveling. He said many times that he gets sick easily. They should give him enough time to rest b/w his tours/trips.
In term of scheduling, his team (label and management) hasn't done a good job so far. They have every elements of promos (AI appearance, TV appearance, radio station visit....) but the timing for them are off and they never work together to maximize the impacts. Even with TMH, we don't know the plan yet.
This is learning experience for David and his team. Hope that they learn sth and improve on that. After all, he's still a teen.
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Post by Spacy-Haha on Apr 23, 2009 17:16:55 GMT -5
^^
The incompetence of his management team is costing David. He is the one to be so harsh on himself and bear all the criticism. I just wish he fire his stage dad already.
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Post by atgs on Apr 23, 2009 18:08:29 GMT -5
I don't think the performance was bad. I enjoyed it. He went off in some parts and he's still that awkward kid but he was better than many who have been on that stage.
I don't believe this will be a single though. No adds date and it doesn't seem like the song will have any relevant sales to help its cause. Maybe it will chart on Disney.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Apr 23, 2009 18:17:40 GMT -5
OMG I love this song!
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Post by Ying&Yang on Apr 23, 2009 18:21:30 GMT -5
I heart this kid. He's always hard on himself and shows so much self-awareness. It pains me that a great kid with so much talents couldn't keep the momentum going in this era. Based on the success of Crush and materials on his album, this era should have been much better if handled smartly.
However, I am ok with his dad being a co-manager (but not sole manager) but Jeff needs to improve himself. He needs to spend more time learning the business and networking in the industry than touring/traveling with David. I more want to fire/switch Jared Paul at Azoff. The reason Archie hires Jared is not to be milked for money but to be guided for his career. So far, He has not delivered the level of professional service promised yet. It's time to have a private talk with him if I were David.
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Post by davidprincess on Apr 23, 2009 18:47:52 GMT -5
Jeff and Azzoff are his managers, so it's not Jeff fault only..David went to Asia without Jeff too, and David said that he is the one who takes his own decisions and his dad is very supportive and David said, ' My dad is cool and he is there for me, because your label only supports you when you make money for them, but your family is there for you no matter what.." so Jeff is not a stage dad like some people thinks..
i'm okay with Jeff travelling with David, he is very young yet and i don't want David to be alone in UK, so it's okay that he travels with his dad to UK.. Jeff and David get along very well, i have seen pictures of them hugging and he always defend his dad.. In the thanks notes, David says to his dad " dad you have always believed in me, thanks for helping me in everything.."also he said other nice things about him...
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Post by Rodze on Apr 23, 2009 19:11:11 GMT -5
^ You obviously have WAAAAY too much time on your hands. Other artists names are tossed around in every thread, it just happens. I guess we better lock every thread on Pulse if we're not allowed to even mention another artists name in a thread if it's not one of their songs. Sorry, I couldn't find the adds date on your post. Can you be more clear? I'm kinda slow.
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Post by When I Ruled the World on Apr 23, 2009 19:32:52 GMT -5
This is the best song on his album, but they should have released it second (with "Angels" third).
I think it's going to flop (even though I like it).
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Post by atgs on Apr 23, 2009 20:11:07 GMT -5
Good for him to know why the label is not supporting him much.
Am I the only one who thinks if this was going to be a single there'd be adds date? Cause... yeah... he doesn't have anything on radio right now, and if they were waiting for something to happen it would probably be the Idol appearance. I don't think the twitter message is very telling. Not a single!
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Post by Spacy-Haha on Apr 23, 2009 21:07:43 GMT -5
Jeff and Azzoff are his managers, so it's not Jeff fault only..David went to Asia without Jeff too, and David said that he is the one who takes his own decisions and his dad is very supportive and David said, ' My dad is cool and he is there for me, because your label only supports you when you make money for them, but your family is there for you no matter what.." so Jeff is not a stage dad like some people thinks.. i'm okay with Jeff travelling with David, he is very young yet and i don't want David to be alone in UK, so it's okay that he travels with his dad to UK.. Jeff and David get along very well, i have seen pictures of them hugging and he always defend his dad.. In the thanks notes, David says to his dad " dad you have always believed in me, thanks for helping me in everything.."also he said other nice things about him... It creeps me out when you are fluent because that proves you are not 12.
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Post by TYRONE™ on Apr 23, 2009 21:24:20 GMT -5
Jeff and Azzoff are his managers, so it's not Jeff fault only..David went to Asia without Jeff too, and David said that he is the one who takes his own decisions and his dad is very supportive and David said, ' My dad is cool and he is there for me, because your label only supports you when you make money for them, but your family is there for you no matter what.." so Jeff is not a stage dad like some people thinks.. i'm okay with Jeff travelling with David, he is very young yet and i don't want David to be alone in UK, so it's okay that he travels with his dad to UK.. Jeff and David get along very well, i have seen pictures of them hugging and he always defend his dad.. In the thanks notes, David says to his dad " dad you have always believed in me, thanks for helping me in everything.."also he said other nice things about him... It creeps me out when you are fluent because that proves you are not 12.
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Post by Baby In a New Dress on Apr 23, 2009 21:56:21 GMT -5
Wow. That was soooo embarassing. I don't know how to say this gently, but I didn't like it at all. The vocal, the cheesiness, the outfit... not a fan of any of that. He's done so much better. What happened? You have got to be the single most insignificant, miserable speck of a carbon-based life form that God ever put on this planet. Your pronouncements (read: snarky, negative, ill-informed, transparent, repetitive, sniping rants) are insufferable in the extreme. It must be darned near impossible for you to even get out of bed each morning. LOL. This made me laugh. So much venom packed into one post. How do you do it? Seriously. It's called an opinion, honey. And David himself happens to agree with me, sooo....
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Post by ZAYN on Apr 23, 2009 22:15:52 GMT -5
Reach out to you touch myyyyyyy hand!
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Post by davidprincess on Apr 23, 2009 23:11:32 GMT -5
Great News!!!! woo, go Archie!!!! ;) Touch My Hand" on iTunes (Thanks for the update, Veth!) POP : #19 ALL : #62 AOL Sessions on iTunes! POP : #7 ALL : #50 David's deluxe album on iTunes POP : #13 ALL : #96 Crush and ALTNOY are moving up too!!! :o "cant let the music stop, until i touch your hand....saw you from the distance, saw you from the stage, something about the look in your eyes something about your beautiful face." :)
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Post by hellothere on Apr 24, 2009 0:45:58 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but those itunes numbers are very much so on the anemic side following an Idol appearance. For example, just looking at the April alumni appearances: Cook's CBTM peaked at #14 and his album went as high as #9 - this was a song debut Pickler's BDOYL peaked in the twenties and is still in the top 40 but her album didn't do much - this song has been out for a while J Hud's ITIL peaked in the eighties and her album reached #46 - this song had already been performed on Oprah
By contrast, Archie's single (following its debut) is at #62 and is likely to peak in that ballpark, as AI appearance boosts tend to peak on Friday and not last through the weekend, his AOL Sessions has actually dropped from #48 to #70 and the album has barely cracked the top 100. And, using the same April appearances as a baseline, this performance didn't generate the same amount of interest either. Following their respective performances, the Google trend ranking for each was: Cook ranked at #3 Pickler ranked at #4 Hudson ranked at #4 The highest ranking for Archie was #65 (under how old is david archuleta) - not sure if that's a good or bad question, LOL
This ranks up there as the second most disappointing showing following an alum performance this season (save for poor Ruben, who got no boost whatsoever from his appearance). It looks a lot like the mediocre response to Blake's performance in the semis last year. But, if we want to sugarcoat and look on the bright side, Taylor Hicks is performing next week, so this miniscule sales bump will probably look fantastic in comparison.
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Post by Ying&Yang on Apr 24, 2009 2:31:41 GMT -5
I'll keep this open considering he is going to be promoting the song already on idol. If any other unrelated idol discussion is brought up, including other contestants or info that isn't about the song, the thread will be locked I think someone just wants this thread to be locked, unfortunately. See post above.
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Post by Ying&Yang on Apr 24, 2009 2:43:17 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but those itunes numbers are very much so on the anemic side following an Idol appearance. For example, just looking at the April alumni appearances: Cook's CBTM peaked at #14 and his album went as high as #9 - this was a song debut Pickler's BDOYL peaked in the twenties and is still in the top 40 but her album didn't do much - this song has been out for a while J Hud's ITIL peaked in the eighties and her album reached #46 - this song had already been performed on Oprah By contrast, Archie's single (following its debut) is at #62 and is likely to peak in that ballpark, as AI appearance boosts tend to peak on Friday and not last through the weekend, his AOL Sessions has actually dropped from #48 to #70 and the album has barely cracked the top 100. And, using the same April appearances as a baseline, this performance didn't generate the same amount of interest either. Following their respective performances, the Google trend ranking for each was: Cook ranked at #3 Pickler ranked at #4 Hudson ranked at #4 The highest ranking for Archie was #65 (under how old is david archuleta) - not sure if that's a good or bad question, LOL This ranks up there as the second most disappointing showing following an alum performance this season (save for poor Ruben, who got no boost whatsoever from his appearance). It looks a lot like the mediocre response to Blake's performance in the semis last year. But, if we want to sugarcoat and look on the bright side, Taylor Hicks is performing next week, so this miniscule sales bump will probably look fantastic in comparison. Thanks for spending time writing the information (it's lots of efforts). However, I think you posted them in the wrong thread.
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Post by hellothere on Apr 24, 2009 3:14:30 GMT -5
I don't see how it's the wrong thread. If the discussion is about the song, does that not include its itunes showing and interest in it following a televised performance? And what is wrong with providing context regarding the itunes showings of songs and artists that were recently performed on the exact same show? If that is "wrong" , well then, my bad. Then to keep in line with what is "right" for this thread: There is no adds date for any format and 0 spins.
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Post by ZAYN on Apr 24, 2009 3:23:00 GMT -5
I wish we had quick cut data...
Does anyone have access to anything about if this has gotten any love lately?
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Post by jdanton2 on Apr 24, 2009 3:41:23 GMT -5
I wish we had quick cut data... Does anyone have access to anything about if this has gotten any love lately? as of yesterday no spins in the last 7 days though 43 overall. www.mmr247.com/mmrweb/Reports/Reg/EMD.asp?SOngID=1618462&NumDays=7MEDIABASE - Quick Cut Info DAVID ARCHULETA - Touch My Hand Period Aud Spins AC HAC COU POP AAA ACT ALT RCK URB UAC RHY S-JAZZ MTV MTV2 BET VH1 CMT VH1-C FUSE RDISNEY To Date: 0.385 43 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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