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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on May 7, 2009 15:57:55 GMT -5
KILL ME! I LOVE IT!
SO much betta than Burnin Up...
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Post by musicluver on May 7, 2009 17:12:58 GMT -5
they still sound constipated lol...i don't think it's as catchy as Burnin' Up
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on May 7, 2009 17:21:14 GMT -5
Sounds kind of Hot AC to me... which is not surprising since it's pop-rock and CHR is shunning a lot of pop-rock, especially if you're not female. Still not fond of their voices, but it's ok.
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Post by I Wish on May 8, 2009 1:18:18 GMT -5
I'm almost certain Disney expected it to premiere much higher then Demi's show did, so yes I do think its valid to say it did not live up to disney's expectations. and thats because Miranda really isn't as marketable as some of her peers. Correct me if I'm wrong but the iCarly soundtrack didn't do as well as HM's first one did and Miranda promoted it just as much as Miley promoted the HM soundtrack. Miley's only one of that group of stars who I follow so I might be wrong about that but I seem to remember Miranda promoting that soundtrack a lot. Also for how crappy disney is at promotion, they're better at it then Nick is. Fine I want to hear it to hear how not different from their other stuff it is. I'm sure it will be lyrically just fine, as Nick is a good songwriter but vocals are an entirely different issue. Well good for you :) & Miranda is perfectly marketable. She's on a completely different network that has never marketed an actor or actress turned singer. Drake Bell was already a singer before Drake & Josh so that wouldn't count. Plus of course the Hannah soundtracks did better. I'm sure you're aware that Hannah incorporates music in almost every episode & Disney has been successful in selling music to the tweens since Hilary Duff. Miranda only did one talk show to promote the soundtrack when it came out & unlike Disney, Nickelodeon doesn't play JUST Nick related commercials. iCarly is also more of an ensemble show than just Miranda & her music. (The only song of hers ever played on the show is the theme song.) Must I go on? Lastly how "crappy" Disney is with promotion? Are you kidding me with that comment? The Sunday numbers for Hannah Montana were at 4.5 million. That aired a day after Jonas. And Sonny scored 4.1 million. Jonas wasn't even in the top 10 cable programs for the week. Both HM and Sonny are scoring better ratings than they were in December and January. I think it's likely the time of year that certain shows trend higher or lower. Jonas should have trended higher in its premiere since ratings for Disney shows are up right now, not down. Considering I can find the ratings for episodes from earlier this year, & last year, I think it's pretty clear that I check the ratings every week & I'm fully aware of how many people are tuning into the shows thank you. :) Isn't it also interesting to see that Jonas' show aired on Saturday, but Hannah's & Sonny's were on Sunday & scored higher? The all female Sunday block that Disney has been running from 7:30 to 9 for the past few months has been working good for all their female-dominated shows. I didn't even consider that until you just mentioned it in your post. haha Oh & the new Jonas song is pleasant.
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Post by rfucom on May 8, 2009 1:23:41 GMT -5
sounded like they must go away.
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Post by Adam (UTR) on May 8, 2009 10:03:19 GMT -5
00 114 JONAS BROTHERS Paranoid Hollywood 45 0 45 0.448
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Post by Hefty Hanna on May 8, 2009 14:07:44 GMT -5
This isn't nearly as terrible as I thought it would be. They sound terrible.
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Post by TYRONE™ on May 8, 2009 18:30:24 GMT -5
WTF is this shit?
They think they can come back from a successful era with this trash?
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Post by casanova on May 8, 2009 19:24:31 GMT -5
WTF is this s**t? They think they can come back from a successful era with this trash? Never thought I'd agree with you, but I do 100%.
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Post by Music Fan on May 8, 2009 22:50:07 GMT -5
I think it will go Top 30 for sure... IDK how big Burnin' Up was, but I don't think it can get something higher. Not as bad as I many on this topic are making it seem IMO, but it's not a great song though haha.
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Post by johnm1120 on May 9, 2009 0:21:00 GMT -5
Burnin' Up peaked at #12.
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Post by SuperTrouper on May 9, 2009 9:49:53 GMT -5
Very underwhelming.
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Post by discoloser on May 9, 2009 10:01:22 GMT -5
I hate being negative but their show...their theatre release....underpreformed...I think their star is fading.
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Post by Felicia on May 9, 2009 10:44:56 GMT -5
This is quite bad.
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Post by 3970 on May 10, 2009 0:25:51 GMT -5
All the disney Radio type music sounds the same. I would have thought the Jonas Brothers would distance themselves from that type of sound and stand out a little more, since they write and produce. It didn't happen. I don't see this song going anywhere on CHR
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Post by HEAT on May 10, 2009 5:53:49 GMT -5
I dont like it.
Burnin Up was more chart-friendly.
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Post by evean on May 10, 2009 6:16:45 GMT -5
I got a headache listening to this. WTH? I thought it was pleasent. Burnin up is better than this.
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Post by blewis1103 on May 10, 2009 6:43:04 GMT -5
I don't even know where to begin with this song....
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Post by Mic Technique on May 10, 2009 13:58:31 GMT -5
Stop, you all know you love it. I know I do!
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Post by Dammn Baby on May 10, 2009 14:29:04 GMT -5
I hope their 15 minutes are over.
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Post by TYRONE™ on May 10, 2009 14:36:47 GMT -5
This is EXTREMELY underwhelming. This has to be a joke...
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on May 10, 2009 15:06:42 GMT -5
All the disney Radio type music sounds the same. I would have thought the Jonas Brothers would distance themselves from that type of sound and stand out a little more, since they write and produce. It didn't happen. I don't see this song going anywhere on CHR The song itself isn't "Disney." Real Radio Disney music--the kind that would never in a bazillion years be played on mainstream radio--doesn't sound anything like this. If you gave it to another artist it would sound Hot AC, and fit in quite well there. The problem is that their voices (particularly Nick's voice, who does lead vocals) sounds young. If and until Nick's voice matures, the Jonas Brothers are going to sound like a "teen" act, regardless of the material they release.
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Post by Baby In a New Dress on May 10, 2009 17:21:17 GMT -5
I hope their 15 minutes are over. They are winding down, that's for certain. They'll be done by this time next year, I think. Raven Symone: RIP (2003-2006) Lindsay Lohan: RIP (2003-2005) Hilary Duff: RIP (2003-2005) Vanessa Hudgens: RIP (2005-2008) Sooo now they've basically replaced those girls with the likes of Miranda, Demi, and Miley. It's only a matter of time. JB is now seeing a decline. Their movie and soundtrack underperfomed, their premiere didn't recieve great viewership, and their new song is pure suckage. BTW: I think they're nice guys, but we know how this stuff goes, with tween stars. The girls ALWAYS move on. ;)
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on May 10, 2009 17:39:24 GMT -5
BTW: I think they're nice guys, but we know how this stuff goes, with tween stars. The girls ALWAYS move on. ;) Not always. It really depends on the artist. Some teen idols have the goods only to be teen idols. They don't possess the potential to move past that, mostly because they hit their peak in their teen idol days and their talent is tapped out. I don't know if that's the case for the Jonas Brothers. I'm not really a fan, but I can be logical about their career. They just pretty much sold out a world tour. Obviously they've still got tons of fans willing to pay to see them play live. They may just not be a great brand for cross-marketing to TV or film. Maybe they were strictly meant to be musicians. I mean, really, how many of the hottest artists right now could post record numbers for a live concert movie? Not too many. Even the ones at the top of the charts. Do you really think Lady Gaga would be packing them in the theater? No. I don't see that happening. There's also nothing wrong with building a large following as a "teen"-based act, and then carrying a portion of them, but not all of them, into adulthood. They may not pull in the same numbers as when they were ZOMG GIGANTIC, but they can pull in good enough numbers to have a solid musical career. The bar doesn't have to remain so high. Doesn't mean they "faded," just means that they're a different kind of artist than they were when they were teen idols. Time will tell with the Jonas Brothers, but continuing success 5-10 years down the line is rare for ANY musician, regardless of whether they are called teen idols or not.
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Post by Baby In a New Dress on May 10, 2009 17:52:07 GMT -5
^ Oh, yeah. Not all of use move on. I still like the same people I liked when I was 8. When I find something I like, i stick with it. But I've seen with my friends and classmates. The same people who went batshit over the Backstreet Boys in the 3rd grade... and now they didn't even know they're still together. :(
As for longetivty... as i said, these sorts of people are on top of the word, and then in the span of 3 years, they're nobodies. I'm just pointing out that it tends to happen with artists targeted at younger fans, because young fans tire easily. Older audiences are more attentive and patient than screaming girls. Not to mention JB don't have mainstream radio support. That will probably hurt them in the future.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on May 10, 2009 18:14:01 GMT -5
^ Oh, yeah. Not all of use move on. I still like the same people I liked when I was 8. When I find something I like, i stick with it. But I've seen with my friends and classmates. The same people who went bats**t over the Backstreet Boys in the 3rd grade... and now they didn't even know they're still together. :( As for longetivty... as i said, these sorts of people are on top of the word, and then in the span of 3 years, they're nobodies. I'm just pointing out that it tends to happen with artists targeted at younger fans, because young fans tire easily. Older audiences are more attentive and patient than screaming girls. Not to mention JB don't have mainstream radio support. That will probably hurt them in the future. I find that younger fans actually tend to be more loyal than older fans, primarily because they get very involved in their fandom. They'll forgive a lot of missteps. Yeah, not all of them will stay, but a surprising number will stay loyal. It really depends on whether the artist continues to puts out relevant music on a regular basis, and doesn't take "breaks" or, if they're a group, doesn't break up. BSB waited too long--the wait was more responsible for their fading than the original age of their fans. Between 2001 and 2005 there was no BSB. Their return album still did fairly well (platinum). It was only their last album that kind of tanked, and that was because they released the shmaltzy "Inconsolable" to radio. It flopped because it was basically a late-90s leftover power ballad that just didn't fit with CHR in 2007. No progression. It was their fault--not because they were teen idols but because they didn't show any kind of growth and forgot what decade they were in. Whether teen idols transition also depends on what their popularity was based on to begin with. All the people you listed as RIP weren't originally known for their music: Raven Symone: RIP (2003-2006) -- TV Show & Disney movies Lindsay Lohan: RIP (2003-2005) -- Disney movies Hilary Duff: RIP (2003-2005) -- TV Show & Teen Movies Vanessa Hudgens: RIP (2005-2008) -- Disney Movies And out of those 4, only Hilary really had any mainstream success in music. The rest were all minor players. But if the teen idol is know first and foremost for their music, I think they've got a better shot at transitioning. Miley may turn out to be the exception if she transitions fully to mainstream artist. The Jonas Brothers, IMO, have a better shot than any of the four above because they were musicians to start. The missteps in their career may be believing that they were ever more than that. (And they do fine on CHR; as fine as a lot of other artists--Burnin' Up was a hit, maybe not a megahit, but it was a hit).
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Post by TYRONE™ on May 10, 2009 19:42:00 GMT -5
The Jonas Brothers aren't going to be teenagers forever...
They'll fade eventually..
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Post by Wrecking Ball on May 10, 2009 20:14:30 GMT -5
I hope their 15 minutes are over. They are winding down, that's for certain. They'll be done by this time next year, I think. Raven Symone: RIP (2003-2006) Lindsay Lohan: RIP (2003-2005) Hilary Duff: RIP (2003-2005) Vanessa Hudgens: RIP (2005-2008) Sooo now they've basically replaced those girls with the likes of Miranda, Demi, and Miley. It's only a matter of time. JB is now seeing a decline. Their movie and soundtrack underperfomed, their premiere didn't recieve great viewership, and their new song is pure suckage. BTW: I think they're nice guys, but we know how this stuff goes, with tween stars. The girls ALWAYS move on. ;) Hilary's the only one who went mainstream really. Honestly though Miley and as much as I dislike them, the Jonas Brothers are more of artists then any of those listed, they've always written their own music and can play their own instruments. I don't know if the Jonas Brothers can make the transition because they are a boyband and their fandom over them is very much driven by their looks and not their music. Miley I think might be able to do it, if she wants, shes already started to transition into country music, which seems to be the genre everyone seems to think she'll eventually end up in. I think she'll last because she is trying to reinvent herself and shes trying to do it while she is at the top. She won't be as popular as she is now but I definately see her lasting.
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Post by blewis1103 on May 10, 2009 20:57:36 GMT -5
I remember reading an article in Details Magazine predicting that Nick Jonas would be the true longstanding pop star. At first, I thought it was ridiculous, but after reading it, it made some sense.
I now think that the Jonases, all of them, are beginning to fade. They are extremely overexposed (the only other pop act more visible than they are were the Spice Girls). I mean, releasing a new album less than a year after the last? It's insane. If they had a better managing team, they could've broken the Disney mold, ridden the wave of "credibility" they garnered in the past year, and last pretty long.
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Post by soundUPsceneDOWN on May 10, 2009 21:10:39 GMT -5
I remember reading an article in Details Magazine predicting that Nick Jonas would be the true longstanding pop star. At first, I thought it was ridiculous, but after reading it, it made some sense. I now think that the Jonases, all of them, are beginning to fade. They are extremely overexposed (the only other pop act more visible than they are were the Spice Girls). I mean, releasing a new album less than a year after the last? It's insane. If they had a better managing team, they could've broken the Disney mold, ridden the wave of "credibility" they garnered in the past year, and last pretty long. Insane? It's probably the smartest thing Hollywood could do. If their primary success is within the musical realm (and it seems to be seeing as their concerts sell out just fine, and their albums sell just dandy), then obviously more music is what their fans want and what will keep them in the fold. They're overexposed not because they're releasing new music, but because they're being cross-marketed like crazy right now. New music isn't the problem. It's everything else that is.
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