jebsib
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Post by jebsib on Sept 3, 2009 22:55:35 GMT -5
If you can support this company at all, please do it:
I had a conversation with a top guy there (not Joel) who said that they are almost out of business after 40 years because of the internet (wikipedia, etc).
That's why they are publishing this book so soon after the last edition (2 years - unprecedentedly early) - to earn fast profits!
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Post by WotUNeed on Sept 4, 2009 3:23:02 GMT -5
If I had the money to blow, I'd buy the four decade H100 chart DVDs and then throw in the one for the HRH, but alas, unemployment is not lucrative.
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Post by Tea-why on Sept 4, 2009 7:36:19 GMT -5
If you can support this company at all, please do it: I had a conversation with a top guy there (not Joel) who said that they are almost out of business after 40 years because of the internet (wikipedia, etc). That's why they are publishing this book so soon after the last edition (2 years - unprecedentedly early) - to earn fast profits! I spent a lot of money on there yesterday ordering the Hot 100 Eighties and Seventies books  I can't wait to get them in the mail ^_^ |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 4, 2009 17:26:30 GMT -5
No e-mail as of yet.
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Post by Young Money on Sept 4, 2009 23:29:38 GMT -5
I got mine today. Briefly looked in it. Disappointed. I happened to look up Beyonce, and there are no numbers for the Sasha Fierce era.
That pisses me off because it made its H100 debut in October 2008.........LAME!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 5, 2009 18:08:52 GMT -5
^Are ya sure? The pre-orders touts every song that made the charts "From january 1955 through December, 2008." What does it say in the book?
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Post by Young Money on Sept 6, 2009 12:50:30 GMT -5
I'm sorry. I made a mistake lol I meant it didn't include the later singles.
For example
The book that was released in 2007 it contained 1955-2006 and then likehalf the year of 2007
so i was expecting half of the 2009 year. i mean the book was due in august they could have included data through like april or something
They included a bunch of stuff about Michael dying and that was in June
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Post by daddydewdrop on Sept 6, 2009 19:39:01 GMT -5
The book that was released in 2007 it contained 1955-2006 and then like half the year of 2007 That's incorrect. The edition that was released in 2007 only contained songs that debuted through December of 2006. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 6, 2009 21:10:08 GMT -5
D'oh- young Money, I sent an e-mail to RR asking if it covered all traks that made the chart through December 2008- and if it didn't, wasn't that misleading pre-order info (and info that appears on the site)? LOL I should have checked here first for your response.
Yeah, the cutoff usually is the end of a year, as that way, RR can get all of the weeks charted for those tracks (well, except for a real long-running track like "I'm Yours").
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Post by Young Money on Sept 8, 2009 21:26:50 GMT -5
The book that was released in 2007 it contained 1955-2006 and then like half the year of 2007 That's incorrect. The edition that was released in 2007 only contained songs that debuted through December of 2006. I just read it and there is data from 2007 in it. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 8, 2009 21:34:13 GMT -5
I called RR todday and the guy said that not all orders being shipped to P.O. boxes (which would be me) have gone out yet- but will within the next week.
YM, how does the book look/read? Satisifed? (other than it cutting off at theend of 2008 hehe)
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Post by jenglisbe on Sept 8, 2009 21:43:52 GMT -5
Will new editions of the Top 40 Hits or other such books be out anytime soon?
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Post by Young Money on Sept 8, 2009 22:57:41 GMT -5
I called RR todday and the guy said that not all orders being shipped to P.O. boxes (which would be me) have gone out yet- but will within the next week. YM, how does the book look/read? Satisifed? (other than it cutting off at theend of 2008 hehe) It doesn't cut off the end of 2008. I was mistaken about that. All 2008 data is present. I just assumed that we would get partial 2009 data as a bonus as that is how it was in the last edition (partial data of the current year) otherwise, it is quite nice. i love the cover and seeing the bubbling under positions is pretty cool. my book came kind of damaged though. some weird creases on the pages but whatever |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 23:13:07 GMT -5
The last edition is the same as this one - it does cut off at the end of 2008
The artist listings list all singles that charted through the end of that year (in this case 2006 and 2008)
The chart statistics section runs all the way through the 8/22/09 chart
Jason Mraz 'I'm Your's' is listed at 69 weeks
The #1's list is current
The previous edition was laid out the exact same way. We did not get 2007 data in the artist section but long running singles that were charting at the end of 2006 were tracked up to publication in 2007
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 23:13:55 GMT -5
No singles debuting in 2009 are listed in this book
No singles debuting in 2007 are listed in the previous book
except in the statistics section (like #1 hits)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 23:30:14 GMT -5
Joel Whitburn top 50 artists
2006 2008 artist
1 1 Elvis Presley
2 2 Beatles
3 3 Elton John
4 4 Madonna
5 5 Mariah Carey
6 6 Stevie Wonder
9 7 Janet Jackson
8 8 Michael Jackson
7 9 James Brown
10 10 Rolling Stones
11 11 Aretha Franklin
12 12 Pat Boone
15 13 Whitney Houston
13 14 Rod Stewart
14 15 Marvin Gaye
16 16 Paul McCartney
19 17 Prince
17 18 Ray Charles
18 19 Beach Boys
20 20 Chicago
22 21 Temptations
24 22 Ricky Nelson
21 23 Fats Domino
25 24 Supremes
23 25 Neil Diamond
26 26 Connie Francis
28 27 Bee Gees
27 28 Frank Sinatra
29 29 Paul Anka
30 30 Dionne Warwick
38 31 R Kelly
31 32 4 Seasons
33 33 Olivia Newton-John
32 34 Billy Joel
37 35 Daryl Hall & John Oates
36 36 Brenda Lee
34 37 Diana Ross
35 38 Nat King Cole
39 39 Perry Como
40 40 George Michael
41 41 Kenny Rogers
45 42 Everly Brothers
43 43 Barbra Streisand
42 44 Miracles
44 45 Bobby Vinton
71 46 Usher
47 47 Gladys Knight & The Pips
46 48 Brook Benton
49 49 Donna Summer
53 50 Phil Collins
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 23:35:44 GMT -5
Some of the movement from 2006 is explained by points for singles being given all the way to chart position 135, where the 2006 edition only went to chart position 100
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 23:40:36 GMT -5
Joel Whitburn top singles artists 2000-2008
1 Nelly
2 Beyonce
3 Usher
4 50 Cent
5 Ludacris
6 TI
7 Jay-Z
8 Eminem
9 Tim McGraw
10 Christina Aguilera
11 Kanye West
12 Rihanna
13 Mariah Carey
14 Kenny Chesney
15 Alicia Keys
16 R Kelly
17 Pink
18 Toby Keith
19 Chris Brown
20 Destiny's Child
21 Rascal Flatts
22 Akon
23 Jennifer Lopez
24 Justin Timberlake
25 Britney Spears
26 Nickelback
27 Brad Paisley
28 Lil Wayne
29 Keith Urban
30 George Strait
31 P Diddy
32 Mary J Blige
33 Missy Elliott
34 Taylor Swift
35 Kelly Clarkson
36 Alan Jackson
37 Ja Rule
38 Bow Wow
39 T-Pain
40 Ne Yo
41 Sean Paul
42 Ashanti
43 Brooks & Dunn
44 Ciara
45 Snoop Dogg
46 Avril Lavigne
47 Faith Hill
48 Linkin Park
49 Lonestar
50 Carrie Underwood
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 23:48:10 GMT -5
Most featurings through 2008
1. Lil Wayne 26
2. Puff Daddy 21
3. T-Pain 20
4. Jay-Z 19
5. Akon 19
6. Missy Elliott 18
7. Ludacris 17
8. Nate Dogg 16
9. R Kelly 15
10 Kanye West 13
Lil Jon 13
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 23:49:19 GMT -5
Most digital platinum hits through 2008
1. Rihanna 8
2. Kanye West 5
3. Fergie 5
4. Beyonce 4
Chris Brown 4
Rascal Flatts 4
Akon 4
Justin Timberlake 4
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 23:52:01 GMT -5
Top airplay only hits
Iris - Goo Goo Dolls
Don't Speak - No Doubt
Torn - Natalie Imbruglia
Fly - Sugar Ray
Men In Black - Will Smith
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 23:54:27 GMT -5
Most #2 hits - thru 2008
1. Madonna & Elbis Presley 6 each
2. Carpenters & CCR 5 each
3. Mariah Carey, Elton John & Janet Jackson 4 each
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 23:55:53 GMT -5
Most #3 hits
1. Chicago 5
2. Billy Joel, Destiny's Child, Olivia Newton John, Janet Jackson, Madonna, 4 Seasons (4 each)
3. Duran Duran, Puff Daddy, DOnna SUmmer (3 each)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2009 23:57:49 GMT -5
Chart hits (includes bubbling under) - thru 2008
1. Elvis Presly 165
2. James Brown 107
3. Ray Charles 91
4. Aretha Franklin 88
5. Fats Domino 77
6. Beatles 75
7. Frank Sinatra 75
8. Elton John 70
9. Connie Francis 67
10. Nat King Cole 66
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2009 0:07:53 GMT -5
Since Bubbling Under is a new feature to this book here is a history of this chart (and its corresponding length)
Jun 59 - Dec 60 (15 positions)
1961-1962 (varied average 20 positions)
1962-1970 (varied average 30-35 positions)
1970-1974 (varied average 20 positions)
1974-1985 (10 positions)
1985-1992 no chart
1992 - present 25 positions
The chart came with this definition:
These records while they have not yet developed enough strength throughout the country for inclusion on any national chart anywhere, already have stimulated considerable regional action."
So this is why there were varying lengths for a time
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Post by jebsib on Sept 9, 2009 7:58:42 GMT -5
2m,
do you like the inclusion of 'bubbling under' hits, or do you think it 'muddies up' the artists' hit lists? The jury is still out for me.
Unless Nelly releases a monster in the next three months, there's no way he will end up being the # 1 artist of the '00's. Beyonce is too close in overall points and has had too many chart hits this year.
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Post by Young Money on Sept 9, 2009 13:54:19 GMT -5
The last edition is the same as this one - it does cut off at the end of 2008 The artist listings list all singles that charted through the end of that year (in this case 2006 and 2008) The chart statistics section runs all the way through the 8/22/09 chart Jason Mraz 'I'm Your's' is listed at 69 weeks The #1's list is current The previous edition was laid out the exact same way. We did not get 2007 data in the artist section but long running singles that were charting at the end of 2006 were tracked up to publication in 2007 Thats what I mean about the data. I guess I was wrong again |
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Post by Young Money on Sept 9, 2009 16:28:02 GMT -5
NELLY HOT 100 HISTORY
Lead:
(Hot Shit) Country Grammar #7
E.I. #15
Ride Wit Me #3
#1 #22
Hot In Herre #1 (7 Weeks)
Dilemma #1 (10 Weeks)
Air Force Ones #3
Pimp Juice #58
Shake Ya Tailfeather #1 (4 Weeks)
Iz U #103
Work It (Reinvention) #68
My Place #4
Flap Your Wings #52
Tilt Ya Head Back #58
Over And Over #3
N Dey Say #64
Errtime #24
Fly Away #124
Grillz #1 (Two Weeks)
Call On Me #25
Wadsyaname #43
Party People #40
Body On Me #42
Stepped On My J'z #90
Warrior #96
Features:
Where The Party At #3
Girlfriend #5
Get It Poppin' #9
Nasty Girl #44
Here I Am #41
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 9, 2009 20:11:38 GMT -5
Is the "featurings" count just include tracks where an act was the "featuring" act, or tracks where the act was the elad, and had someone else as a "featuring" act?
Peaks for 91-100 had received 10 pts. How many points are given for Bubbling Under entries?
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Post by Young Money on Sept 9, 2009 21:23:59 GMT -5
Features are where Nelly was featured on someone else's track
I have no idea on the BU entries.
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