Lady GaGa - Born This Way [Remixes]

[El Chiko Kevo]

:o :o :o :o

Born This Way (DrewG Brian Cua Dirty Pop Remix)



TOTALLY LOVING THIS!!

[DJ DigiMark]

Nicely done considering what little they had to work with

[nightshade]

Amazing. Love it. Will have it on repeat for a while.

[musicissalvation]

Pretty legit!

[El Chiko Kevo]

Totally brilliant!! Like wow!!

[koolade]

Oh, wow!

[housemusiclover]

Sounds out of key!

[Az Paynter]

^ That's GaGa's vocal. That wasn't one of her best moments vocally.

[djmattbailer]

Wow. A sure sign that people will lap up anything Gaga does without question. I like quite a bit of her work and many of her remixes, but this is an annoyingly premature and eardrum-insulting piece of out-of-tune noise.

Standards, people. Come on.

[hazer]

If ever a song needed a dub mix...
People who like this should check out ATB - Could you Believe (Taylor & Gallahan Rmx) - it's the first song that springs to mind when hearing this mishmash (also a fair bit of Khomha in there too).

[frank]

It worked until her sustained note. He could have done some pitch correction to make it a lot better, or at least in tune with the chord.

[Az Paynter]

^ That sustained note isn't the only thing that would need to be pitch-corrected. I know it was just an impromptu little vocal snippet, but it was rather pitchy.

[kpasa]

Sept 16, 2010 16:51:17 GMT -5 djmattbailer said:

Wow. A sure sign that people will lap up anything Gaga does without question. I like quite a bit of her work and many of her remixes, but this is an annoyingly premature and eardrum-insulting piece of out-of-tune noise.

Standards, people. Come on.

honestly, does making a remix for fan/because your a fan these days, especially one that's only real issue is being off-key here and there due to it being live no doubt, strike you as that big of an issue?
I can appreciate what they did here, working with live impromptu vocals like that. Chill, this was obviously not that serious, and it's not like it's commercial.

[djmattbailer]

I can say with relative certainty that it was made knowing that the fans would have exactly this reaction, eating it up no matter what the quality would be. And yeah, I don't think it's too much to expect remixes to be in-key. There's enough technology out there that the pitchiness of her impromptu live vocal was completely fixable. Trust me, I'm not taking this that seriously, but that makes my opinion no less valid. I can still be disappointed when people use words like "brilliant", "amazing", and "legit" to describe an unarguably out-of-tune turd.

Sept 18, 2010 1:11:08 GMT -5 @kpasa said:

Sept 16, 2010 16:51:17 GMT -5 djmattbailer said:

Wow. A sure sign that people will lap up anything Gaga does without question. I like quite a bit of her work and many of her remixes, but this is an annoyingly premature and eardrum-insulting piece of out-of-tune noise.

Standards, people. Come on.

honestly, does making a remix for fan/because your a fan these days, especially one that's only real issue is being off-key here and there due to it being live no doubt, strike you as that big of an issue?
I can appreciate what they did here, working with live impromptu vocals like that. Chill, this was obviously not that serious, and it's not like it's commercial.

[Az Paynter]

^ All that needs to be fixed up with this remix is the vocal. Musically speaking, everything is in the correct key signature; GaGa sang in the key of A Minor, and the production is in the key of A Minor. In that respect, it is not out of tune. What IS out of tune, as I've said, is the vocal since the notes are very unclean; slurring into each other and not being hit right in the center of the note. I agree that there is more that could be done to bash it into shape for but what it is, it's not THAT bad.

[kpasa]

Sept 18, 2010 10:56:58 GMT -5 djmattbailer said:

I can say with relative certainty that it was made knowing that the fans would have exactly this reaction, eating it up no matter what the quality would be. And yeah, I don't think it's too much to expect remixes to be in-key. There's enough technology out there that the pitchiness of her impromptu live vocal was completely fixable. Trust me, I'm not taking this that seriously, but that makes my opinion no less valid. I can still be disappointed when people use words like "brilliant", "amazing", and "legit" to describe an unarguably out-of-tune turd.

I can't at you missing most of what I was saying, but thanks for the attempt at a reply.

[DiscoSchtick]

Sept 18, 2010 14:54:36 GMT -5 @kpasa said:

Sept 18, 2010 10:56:58 GMT -5 djmattbailer said:

I can say with relative certainty that it was made knowing that the fans would have exactly this reaction, eating it up no matter what the quality would be. And yeah, I don't think it's too much to expect remixes to be in-key. There's enough technology out there that the pitchiness of her impromptu live vocal was completely fixable. Trust me, I'm not taking this that seriously, but that makes my opinion no less valid. I can still be disappointed when people use words like "brilliant", "amazing", and "legit" to describe an unarguably out-of-tune turd.

I can't at you missing most of what I was saying, but thanks for the attempt at a reply.

Is this supposed to be a valid retort?

I, like many Gaga fans, loved the impromptu sneak peak, but this remix is simply an attempt by amateur remixers to get attention by mixing an acapella no one else would touch because fans who don't know any better will eat it up.

Matt's point is completely valid and justified with sound logic, something that can't be said for your sad "I can't's"

Its not in key. It should not get praise for being musically improper. Unless you're no longer considering it 'music' and its now in some 'novelty' or 'humor' or dare I say it, 'audible crap' category. Your recommendation to chill is a bit condescending considering Matt was the lone voice of reason pointing out what you consider to be the remixes "only real flaw" and most musically knowledgeable people would consider it's "fatal flaw"

[beach1]

I don't really think the vocal is that bad seeing that it's obviously a live vocal track, not from a studio. I think the imperfections in the pitches actually give the remix a certain type of charm. The live vocal in this remix gives off a certain interesting, dramatic effect imo. It's like that's kind of the point. That the vocals are completely live and not perfect. It reminds me of another remix that I've heard where there's a diva vocal that sounds like it was recorded live and there's a sound of a crowd cheering her on, and it just has a different type of effect than if it was just a perfect studio vocal that was used in the track.

I can see the point of the people complaining about the imperfections in the vocal but at the same time, I don't think it's THAT bad.

Edit// Oops, I'm listening to the remix that I was talking about and maybe the vocals aren't live and were just made to sound like they were live. :\

[Fat Ass Kelly Price]

GaGa's vocal was very rough there.

[KeepDeanWeird]

"All that needs to be fixed up with this remix is the vocal." In other words, are people liking this because of the instrumental track/beat or just because LG's name has been slapped on it?

[DJ DigiMark]

She sang the vocals live, a spur of the moment thing, at the VMA's during one of her acceptance speeches. It's a novelty mix for the fans but not something I would play in a club or on the radio.

As Randy Jackson would say... it was very pitchy, dawg! ;)

[Deleted]

This was doomed from the start - why even bother to construct a 7-minute long "remix" using a whopping 15 seconds of acapella vocals recorded from a live TV awards show? It's great to want to be the first one out there to remix a song but for crying out loud at least wait until you have the FULL song to work with! Listening to this right now and while the production itself (i.e. everything minus the vox) sounds pretty good, the vocals themselves are terribly pitchy and REALLY should've been corrected by the remixers if they have any skill at all.

[nightshade]

I don't recall anyone ever saying it was a masterpiece.

Nothing wrong with wanting to listen to a remix of vocals.
It's not like they're trying to sell that shit. Don't get why everyone is so mad.

[musicissalvation]

i was actually liking the production of the track. the vocals had nothing to do with my analysis. a good remix is a good remix! & brian cua is infamous for remixing unreleased songs/snippets, so he wasn't just doing it because he knew it would get lapped up

[Deleted]

Sept 20, 2010 7:24:03 GMT -5 nightshade said:

I don't recall anyone ever saying it was a masterpiece.

Nothing wrong with wanting to listen to a remix of vocals.
It's not like they're trying to sell that s**t. Don't get why everyone is so mad.

That's true and you make a good point. I just think that some of us are upset over the musical "dumbing down" of people's standards with each passing year. It's a double edged sword, this "do it yourself" internet culture, that the caliber of discipline, skill, and quality is gradually going downhill and consumers at large don't seem to care. People are so oblivious to everything that they no longer have the ability to differentiate on a critical level what really IS good anymore. Gosh I sound so pretentious when I go back and read that over. I'm not, really! *lol* A book called "The Cult Of The Amateur" by Andrew Keen explains this a whole lot better than I ever could www.amazon.com/Cult-Amateur-MySpace-user-generated-destroying/dp/0385520816 and it's one of the most fascinating insights into this topic I've ever read. I didn't agree with everything the author said, but it was amazing to read something so polarizing, so controversial, and even the reviews on Amazon whip people up into a frenzy apparently. Definitely a recommended read from me :)

[beach1]

I don't get what's the big deal. It's a fan remix. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't see how this remix is dumbing down people's standards, when it's obviously not meant to be taken as a professional quality remix.

Like someone else said. It's kind of a novelty remix. Something to tide fans over until official, better quality remixes come out.

[Az Paynter]

No, I'm sorta seeing what DJMA is getting at here. The ability and resources for bedroom remixers to create their own music is really wide-spread now, and there's a lot of sub-quality work doing the rounds on the internet, and there are many people out there who don't understand what constitutes 'good' work, so they praise whatever comes along because they don't understand the low level of quality - all they see is 'oh you were able to do this, therefore it must be good'. They don't know any better, so they then run the risk of rejecting the real 'good' stuff because it's not what they know and think is 'good'.

As for this track, it is good on a technical level; everything is musically sound (save for the vocal but that has been covered), everything is in time, the production is clean and is pleasant to the ears. Therefore it is a 'good' track. Unnecessary? Yes. Quality? Well, this is subjective, but I believe the quality is there to some degree.

[kpasa]

Sept 18, 2010 19:25:55 GMT -5 DiscoSchtick said:

Sept 18, 2010 14:54:36 GMT -5 @kpasa said:

I can't at you missing most of what I was saying, but thanks for the attempt at a reply.

Is this supposed to be a valid retort?

well given that they completely missed the point of my response, I like to think so since I did in face hit the "Post Reply" button.

I, like many Gaga fans, loved the impromptu sneak peak, but this remix is simply an attempt by amateur remixers to get attention by mixing an acapella no one else would touch because fans who don't know any better will eat it up.

or, they, like you, could've been a gaga fan. The remix itself certainly doesn't sound amateur to me, and what pray tell is wrong with marketing yourself? If it's hot and in demand, take your chances with it.

Matt's point is completely valid and justified with sound logic, something that can't be said for your sad "I can't's"

His point that it was out of key: valid
His rambling that the attempt as a whole is utter garbage etc. etc.: I don't agree with whatsoever.

Its not in key. It should not get praise for being musically improper. Unless you're no longer considering it 'music' and its now in some 'novelty' or 'humor' or dare I say it, 'audible crap' category. Your recommendation to chill is a bit condescending considering Matt was the lone voice of reason pointing out what you consider to be the remixes "only real flaw" and most musically knowledgeable people would consider it's "fatal flaw"

it's not getting praise for being in key. Show me a post that says "I love how in key this is" and I'll cease and desist. The fact is, it's not totally out of key, and where it is certainly isn't the fault of the mixer, but Gaga's pitchiness. Given what this DrewG Brian Cua had to work with, I think they did a stand up job for what it is. You're treating this as though people aren't entitled to an opinion on the track, and my opinion stands that despite this "fatal flaw" the remix is its entirety not the complete earsore matt makes it out to be.

[Deleted]

Lady Gaga - Born This Way (Main Version) 4:19

....digitally delivered just now as a watermarked wav file. Now what the label ought to do is put the song up on iTunes like RIGHT NOW so that fans could support the artist and rack up as many digital sales as possible LEGALLY (i.e. not downloading it form some shady blogsite) because if they don't do this, come Monday or Tuesday everyone and their brother will have the song - that's the speed of the internet these days.

[clubmixaholic]

It is up on iTunes. It was available for purchase starting at 9oclock this morning.