slw84
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Post by slw84 on Oct 13, 2010 19:22:48 GMT -5
He will be 42. Dre is 45 now and he still plans to put out more music. So I imagine Em at 42 will still sell pretty well. As in over 300 K at least a week. I mean Relapse did over 600K. Recovery did over 700K. Even if he drops to 300K thats still way better than a lot of this stuff out now. I'm looking forward to the new Tool Album in Late 2011 though. That will probably come out before the next Eminem album. I expect that to do over 500K like Lateralus and 10,000 Days did. You're a very dedicated fan. Or shall I say...stan. U know the worst thing to ever do is call a stan a "stan." He's going to be comin' for you. LOL. But no, Eminem will always sell he has a built in fanbase. Of our generation, he is one of four artist that can either promote the heck out of their record or do minimal promo and still sell well. Jay Z, Pink, and Brit are the other three.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2010 19:34:19 GMT -5
"fanbases" move on after a while.
Eminem will eventually grow older and his fanbase will too. There are countless examples of artists in every generation that were bigger than life at one point then they aged and their fanbases moved on to find other things to listen to.
This will even happen to Eminem, Jay-Z, P!nk and Britney Spears. They are not immune to aging past theor audience.
It may or may not happen soon but rest assured, at some point it will happen. Every artist at some point gets old.
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Post by when the pawn... on Oct 13, 2010 21:05:39 GMT -5
I'm shocked people expected Lil Wayne to do more. He had what 5 albums out before Carter III did 1,000,000 first week. That was his 6th album. None of the ones before sold nearly that much first week. Since Carter III his albums have gone back to where the albums were before Carter III. The people who claiming it's just a mixtape, also claim Rebirth didnt count because it was a Rock album. I listen to Rock. That's not a Rock album. Now they are claiming this is a mixtape? Why use lame excuses like those? You don't hear me saying...."Eminem was on drugs when he released Encore so That Doesnt Count." or "Eminem was just getting off of Drugs when he released Relapse so That Doesnt Count". I'm no Lil Wayne fan but this is a mixtape. Do you really think TCIV will sell under 150k opening week?
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Post by slicknickshady on Oct 13, 2010 23:50:39 GMT -5
I'm no Lil Wayne fan but this is a mixtape. Do you really think TCIV will sell under 150k opening week? I'm expecting 250K opening week for CarterIV. You have to realize, this was released digitally two weeks before the physical release, that does have an impact you know. Also...it was originally going to be a free EP. Then they changed it to a full album. It's marketed as an album. Also, 2m, Jay Z is 40 right now. Of Course...Eminem won't be rapping in his 50's or 60's. But i think Em could hold his own at least to the Age of 47.
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Post by cking33 on Oct 14, 2010 0:14:58 GMT -5
Should Lil Wayne need a lot of exposure though? He's Lil Wayne! Its been heavily reported he was going to drop an album. I'm shocked at the idea of him not cracking 100K. Maybe it will go up with the Friday update. Isn't this officially a "mixtape"? I expect when Tha Carter IV drops, he'll open to big numbers. Agree, when he does release that, that'll easily open with huge numbers.
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Post by I Wish on Oct 14, 2010 1:17:39 GMT -5
Oh, and I think I'm shocked at Big Time Rush. LOL I had no idea they were that popular. Nick & Colombia have put all their money and promo behind getting these guys to do well. They made sure to premiere a new special right after the new "iCarly" on Monday as well as having them on the Today Show the same day.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 14, 2010 1:48:28 GMT -5
Darius Rucker: a lot worse than I thought That's exactly about how much I figured it would sell in its first week out. Rucker may have had a stellar debut, but he has yet to demonstrate if his initial wave of success was more a well-timed fluke or not. He's a singles artist as it is, and "Learn To Live" was more a slow-and-steady-wins-the-race kind of success story. I'd be pleased with these numbers if I were Capitol Nashville. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 14, 2010 5:20:01 GMT -5
Darius Rucker: a lot worse than I thought That's exactly about how much I figured it would sell in its first week out. Rucker may have had a stellar debut, but he has yet to demonstrate if his initial wave of success was more a well-timed fluke or not. He's a singles artist as it is, and "Learn To Live" was more a slow-and-steady-wins-the-race kind of success story. I'd be pleased with these numbers if I were Capitol Nashville. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus Well "lot" is a bit misleading, I was thinking 125k perhaps. But disappointing nevertheless. But I agree, the album will need further hits to show its staying power. I imagine country radio will back him and potential CMA performance etc will help the album to do well in the long run.
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Post by chopped89 on Oct 14, 2010 6:36:20 GMT -5
Nope, I don't make excuses. Theres no need. He sells big everytime. :) We'll see how well he'll be selling in five years from now. Sorry to jump in but, in five years Recovery will be at 7million and he will be aiming at the 120 million records sold. He doesn't need to do a new album to sell, because every new generation that gets into music will buy all of Em's albums....Not being a stan, but the past 8 years proves my comment(Talking about MMLP)!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2010 9:09:32 GMT -5
I'm shocked people expected Lil Wayne to do more. He had what 5 albums out before Carter III did 1,000,000 first week. That was his 6th album. None of the ones before sold nearly that much first week. Since Carter III his albums have gone back to where the albums were before Carter III. The people who claiming it's just a mixtape, also claim Rebirth didnt count because it was a Rock album. I listen to Rock. That's not a Rock album. Now they are claiming this is a mixtape? Why use lame excuses like those? You don't hear me saying...."Eminem was on drugs when he released Encore so That Doesnt Count." or "Eminem was just getting off of Drugs when he released Relapse so That Doesnt Count". Lol what a horrible example. "I Am Not A Human Being" is basically the same situation as the "So Far Gone" EP. It's not really an official album, just a mixtape/EP for fans. Nobody is denying whether "Rebirth" counts as an official album, but you can't really compare it's sales to TCIII or use that as evidence that he has faced a drop off in popularity. People have to wait til TC4 comes out.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 14, 2010 10:44:03 GMT -5
The difference here is Wayne isn't able to promote his album at all. Eminem had that regardless of his drug habbit.
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Post by asg4 on Oct 14, 2010 12:02:53 GMT -5
There is something about age 40 that tends to bring interest in an artist down, doesn't matter how big they were prior to age 40. The kids that follow these artists will eventually label them as OLD and find someone else to listen to. (Yes, I think this includes Eminem too) That is very true Its just the generation gap. In music 40 is the retirement age. unless u r country. The only exception to this rule is Tina Turner who peaked at 45 in the mid 80s. Santana but that was coz of all the collabs he had with younger artists. There is also cher who had a single hit with believe
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Post by asg4 on Oct 14, 2010 12:13:51 GMT -5
" fanbases" move on after a while. . That isnt the case really. Its more like the fans get older too and have more things to worry about then music. The dedication level just slips.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Oct 14, 2010 19:59:15 GMT -5
HITS:
YOUR WEAKEND CHART PREVIEW IF YOU'VE BEEN LIVING IN A CHILEAN CAVE
In its first week of physical release, and third overall, Lil Wayne's I Am Not a Human Being will ascend to the top spot. The last time a record jumped from outside of the Top 15 to #1 was in January, 2008, when Radiohead's In Rainbows moved from #156 to #1. Also of note this week, a potential of five titles in the Top 10 may be Country acts. Here's how it looks headed into the weekend:
Lil Wayne (Cash Money/Universal Motown) 90-95k *Darius Rucker (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 75-80k *Big Time Rush (Nickelodeon/Columbia) 60-65k Eminem (Shady/Aftermath/Interscope) 45-50k Kenny Chesney (BNA/Sony Music Nashville) 40-45k *The Band Perry (Universal Republic Nashville) 40-45k Zac Brown Band (Atlantic) 30-35k Toby Keith (Show Dog) 30-35k Bruno Mars (New Elektra) 25-30k *All That Remains (Prosthetic) 25-30k Linkin Park (Warner Bros.) 25-30k Selena Gomez & The Scene (Hollywood) 25-30k Trey Songz (Atlantic) 25-30k Maroon 5 (A&M/Octone) 20-23k *Lady Antebellum Merry Little Christmas (Capitol Nashville/EMI) 18-21k * Debuts (10/14p)
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Post by slicknickshady on Oct 14, 2010 20:18:00 GMT -5
Nice. Another solid Week for Em.
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Post by Rodze on Oct 14, 2010 20:30:01 GMT -5
A big drop for Katy if it holds, though.
How longer will HDD keep making "jokes" about the miners? ...
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Post by forg on Oct 14, 2010 20:42:40 GMT -5
I hope Lil Wayne could reach 100k, don't like him but it's kind of sad to see another #1 with less than 100k around this time of the year.
Steady sales for Linkin Park.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Oct 14, 2010 21:23:50 GMT -5
Katy Perry's album benefited from sale pricing at a notable outlet, and placement in Amazon's mp3 deals, so a falloff was expected.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Oct 14, 2010 21:54:17 GMT -5
Katy Perry's album benefited from sale pricing at a notable outlet, and placement in Amazon's mp3 deals, so a falloff was expected. i agree. Plus we're in between singles right now. All the people that bought the album because of Teenage Dream have already done so. Notable gains or plateau's won't be experienced until Firework gains some more airplay and sales.
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Post by Black Jesus on Oct 14, 2010 22:43:56 GMT -5
No mention of McPhee...I'm predicting under 5k. A shame...
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Oct 14, 2010 23:52:36 GMT -5
No mention of McPhee...I'm predicting under 5k. A shame... truly.
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Post by Diego on Oct 15, 2010 1:25:44 GMT -5
Impressive for BTR!
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Post by I Wish on Oct 15, 2010 2:27:35 GMT -5
Selena Gomez & The Scene (Hollywood) 25-30k :o HR must very pleased. Where's Katy at?
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Post by Enigma. on Oct 15, 2010 7:33:05 GMT -5
Steady sales for Linkin Park. Yea seems that Waiting for the End is doing its job (Hot 100, decent album sales)
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Post by Samer on Oct 15, 2010 8:50:36 GMT -5
Rooting for Linkin Park and Maroon 5!!! If you remember, also their last two albums were released one week apart and in the same order!!!
Linkin Park ended up selling around 2.5M-2.7M and Maroon 5 sold 1.9M-2.0M.
Hope both go platinum this time around. Sales will steady once Waiting For The End and Give A Little More begin impacting the charts (Rock, Hot AC and POP)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 9:05:20 GMT -5
" fanbases" move on after a while. . That isnt the case really. Its more like the fans get older too and have more things to worry about then music. The dedication level just slips. Maybe not. Consider a teen idol that caters to kids of the day. The teen grows up and so do the kids. Then this teen idol simply becomes someone that you used to like when you were younger but really wouldn't listen to now.
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Post by tsw2008 on Oct 15, 2010 10:15:38 GMT -5
Big drop for Katy. The album will sell a Million+ but it will take work. I bet there will be a re-release too.
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Post by Black Jesus on Oct 15, 2010 10:20:38 GMT -5
Katy was never a strong album artist and I would argue most Pop stars today aren't either. Consider GaGa, with the incredible success she's had and the fact that she's sold over 26 million digital singles from the album, the album has only shifted about 4 million. If this were back in the day, this album would have been diamond by now
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Post by Honeymoon on Oct 15, 2010 10:24:01 GMT -5
No mention of McPhee...I'm predicting under 5k. A shame... To be fair it IS a Christmas album and it's only October so it won't reach its highest week sales until late Nov/Dec probably, especially since that's when the majority of the promo will be
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Post by TGIF on Oct 15, 2010 10:39:16 GMT -5
No mention of katy :( looks like it will be just under 20k but i hope her sales pick back up...
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