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Post by ktucker13 on Nov 10, 2010 15:34:57 GMT -5
Why is it that every week this thread somehow gets turned into Rihanna vs. Mariah Carey? They are two TOTALLY different artists who make two TOTALLY different types of music and are from two TOTALLY different time periods. Yes, they may have both had amazing chart success, but in my opinion there is no point comparing them as it is never-ending battle.
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Post by Junkiex on Nov 10, 2010 15:38:57 GMT -5
Why is it that every week this thread somehow gets turned into Rihanna vs. Mariah Carey? They are two TOTALLY different artists who make two TOTALLY different types of music and are from two TOTALLY different time periods. Yes, they may have both had amazing chart success, but in my opinion there is no point comparing them as it is never-ending battle. I love them both so fucking much! I can't understand where the rivalry comes from either. |
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Post by Nadia on Nov 10, 2010 15:49:13 GMT -5
They campared because Rihanna is most likely the person (if anyone) that will snatch Mariah's wig. Congrats RiRi  8 #1 in just 5 years |
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Post by neverduplicated on Nov 10, 2010 16:14:11 GMT -5
Why is it that every week this thread somehow gets turned into Rihanna vs. Mariah Carey? They are two TOTALLY different artists who make two TOTALLY different types of music and are from two TOTALLY different time periods. Yes, they may have both had amazing chart success, but in my opinion there is no point comparing them as it is never-ending battle. Well, if you'll take note, the only thing anyone compared was their chart success, not their music itself. That's what we do in every chart thread. So-and-so sells so much or gets x position on the chart or does extraordinary chart feat, so we all wonder how that compares to other artists and what the future may hold. Why is that so strange? Rihanna's accomplishments are indeed impressive and it's a complement to her star power and her staying power that people are speculating about whether or not she could take down Mimi for the most #1's. And I think this is only the second thread I can recall that's turned into Mariah vs. Rihanna, at least recently. |
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Post by Rεvôlvεr† on Nov 10, 2010 16:46:14 GMT -5
Here's the artists with the most #1's in case anyone's interested..
Not in any particular order..
20- The Beatles
18- Mariah Carey
17- Elvis Presley
13- Michael Jackson
12- Madonna
12- The Supremes
11- Whitney Houston
10- Janet Jackson
10- Stevie Wonder
9- The Bee Gees
9- Elton John
9- Usher Raymond
8- George Michael
8- Rihanna
8- The Rolling Stones
7- Phil Collins
7- Prince
6- Pat Boone
6- Diana Ross
6- Wings
6- Paula Abdul
6- Hall & Oates
5- Puff/P. Diddy
5- Lionel Ritchie
5- Ludacris
5- Beyonce
5- KC & Sunshine Band
5- Boyz II Men
5- Barbara Streisand
5- The Eagles
5- The Four Seasons
5- Olivia Newton John
4- 50 Cent
4- Alicia Keys
4- The Platters
4- The Temptations
4- Justin Timberlake
4- TLC
4- The Jackson 5
4- Nelly
4- Jay-Z
4- Cher
4- Blondie
4- The Everly Brothers
4- Eminem
4- Bon Jovi
4- Christina Aguilera
4- Jennifer Lopez
4- Destiny's Child
4- Rod Stewart
4- Donna Summer
4- The Beach Boys
4- John Denver
4- Celine Dion
4- Bobby Vinton
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Post by Minor Scratch on Nov 10, 2010 16:46:18 GMT -5
They campared because Rihanna is most likely the person (if anyone) that will snatch Mariah's wig. Congrats RiRi 8 #1 in just 5 years I think the most impressive aspect of Rihanna's success is the small window of time she's had to do it. How she's able to solidify such great producers and writers year after year for bonafide hits this quickly is simply impressive. Not just 8 US #1s, but 17 US Top 20s in five years. Her album sales may be dragging, but she and her management sure know what they are doing about the hits. |
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Post by as485y on Nov 10, 2010 16:53:05 GMT -5
The thing about #1s is that they dont define an artist's worth.If Beyonce/Eminem/Celine never get another #1 they still would be better and more sucessful/respected than Rihanna. As far as Im concerned she can beat Mariah's record but she still would have had the impact she did.
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Post by California Cheers on Nov 10, 2010 17:02:18 GMT -5
The thing about #1s is that they dont define an artist's worth.If Beyonce/Eminem/Celine never get another #1 they still would be better and more sucessful/respected than Rihanna. As far as Im concerned she can beat Mariah's record but she still would have had the impact she did. however #1's are still impressive things to achieve |
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Post by as485y on Nov 10, 2010 17:05:51 GMT -5
The thing about #1s is that they dont define an artist's worth.If Beyonce/Eminem/Celine never get another #1 they still would be better and more sucessful/respected than Rihanna. As far as Im concerned she can beat Mariah's record but she still would have had the impact she did. however #1's are still impressive things to achieve exactly...but Rihanna seems to be stuck in a rutt where she cant advacne to the next level even tho she can rack up tons of hits. |
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Nov 10, 2010 17:20:02 GMT -5
Honestly, i don't think it matters very much. I just hope "We R Who We R" becomes #1 again soon.
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Post by Rεvôlvεr† on Nov 10, 2010 17:20:13 GMT -5
What bothers me is the fact Madonna has SO MANY #2 hits.
If her #2 singles were #1's-- she'd had 18 #1 hits, and passing the Beatles with Mariah.
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Post by neverduplicated on Nov 10, 2010 17:31:52 GMT -5
What bothers me is the fact Madonna has SO MANY #2 hits. If her #2 singles were #1's-- she'd had 18 #1 hits, and passing the Beatles with Mariah. By that logic, if Mariah's #2 hits were #1's, she'd have 22 #1 singles. So there. |
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Post by antoinelk955 on Nov 10, 2010 17:40:32 GMT -5
What bothers me is the fact Madonna has SO MANY #2 hits. If her #2 singles were #1's-- she'd had 18 #1 hits, and passing the Beatles with Mariah. By that logic, if Mariah's #2 hits were #1's, she'd have 22 #1 singles. So there. LMFAO |
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Post by dbt88 on Nov 10, 2010 17:44:42 GMT -5
Let's just be happy for RiRi for her 8th #1. If it makes you guys feel any better, she "only" has 6 solo #1's, so she still has quite a long way to go. People are up in arms about it. It' gonna take awhile for her to even get there. This maybe her only #1 this era or not.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Nov 10, 2010 18:17:48 GMT -5
Here's the artists with the most #1's in case anyone's interested.. Not in any particular order.. 20- The Beatles 18- Mariah Carey 17- Elvis Presley 13- Michael Jackson 12- Madonna 12- The Supremes 11- Whitney Houston 10- Janet Jackson 10- Stevie Wonder 9- The Bee Gees 9- Elton John 9- Usher Raymond 8- George Michael 8- Rihanna 8- The Rolling Stones 7- Phil Collins 7- Prince 6- Pat Boone 6- Diana Ross 6- Wings 6- Paula Abdul 6- Hall & Oates 5- Puff/P. Diddy 5- Lionel Ritchie 5- Ludacris 5- Beyonce 5- KC & Sunshine Band 5- Boyz II Men 5- Barbara Streisand 5- The Eagles 5- The Four Seasons 5- Olivia Newton John 4- 50 Cent 4- Alicia Keys 4- The Platters 4- The Temptations 4- Justin Timberlake 4- TLC 4- The Jackson 5 4- Nelly 4- Jay-Z 4- Cher 4- Blondie 4- The Everly Brothers 4- Eminem 4- Bon Jovi 4- Christina Aguilera 4- Jennifer Lopez 4- Destiny's Child 4- Rod Stewart 4- Donna Summer 4- The Beach Boys 4- John Denver 4- Celine Dion 4- Bobby Vinton Beyonce is like the Paula Abdul of our time. She's just not as highly regarded as everyone thinks. |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Nov 10, 2010 18:23:49 GMT -5
Beyonce is like the Paula Abdul of our time. She's just not as highly regarded as everyone thinks. Except beyoncé has won 16 Grammys and is a respected perfomer. |
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Post by fridayteenage on Nov 10, 2010 18:24:46 GMT -5
Rihanna is a hugely successful singles artist, yes. At first I thought I might be upset about her no. 1 debut, but then I looked and saw that Take a Bow was already a radio hit (no. 20) the week it hit no. 1 so now I don't care either way.
I don't know much about Abdul, but Beyonce does have a truckload of Grammys. So she is pretty highly regarded.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2010 18:33:19 GMT -5
Here's the artists with the most #1's in case anyone's interested.. Not in any particular order.. 20- The Beatles 18- Mariah Carey 17- Elvis Presley 13- Michael Jackson 12- Madonna 12- The Supremes 11- Whitney Houston 10- Janet Jackson 10- Stevie Wonder 9- The Bee Gees 9- Elton John 9- Usher Raymond 8- George Michael 8- Rihanna 8- The Rolling Stones 7- Phil Collins 7- Prince 6- Pat Boone 6- Diana Ross 6- Wings 6- Paula Abdul 6- Hall & Oates 5- Puff/P. Diddy 5- Lionel Ritchie 5- Ludacris 5- Beyonce 5- KC & Sunshine Band 5- Boyz II Men 5- Barbara Streisand 5- The Eagles 5- The Four Seasons 5- Olivia Newton John 4- 50 Cent 4- Alicia Keys 4- The Platters 4- The Temptations 4- Justin Timberlake 4- TLC 4- The Jackson 5 4- Nelly 4- Jay-Z 4- Cher 4- Blondie 4- The Everly Brothers 4- Eminem 4- Bon Jovi 4- Christina Aguilera 4- Jennifer Lopez 4- Destiny's Child 4- Rod Stewart 4- Donna Summer 4- The Beach Boys 4- John Denver 4- Celine Dion 4- Bobby Vinton Beyonce is like the Paula Abdul of our time. She's just not as highly regarded as everyone thinks. LOL! |
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Post by Junkiex on Nov 10, 2010 19:49:02 GMT -5
however #1's are still impressive things to achieve exactly...but Rihanna seems to be stuck in a rutt where she cant advacne to the next level even tho she can rack up tons of hits. Oooh levels? Really? So first you rack up a certain amount of #1 hits and then you become a huge album seller? Is that how it is supposed to work? |
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Nov 10, 2010 21:03:20 GMT -5
Here's the artists with the most #1's in case anyone's interested.. Not in any particular order.. 20- The Beatles 18- Mariah Carey 17- Elvis Presley 13- Michael Jackson 12- Madonna 12- The Supremes 11- Whitney Houston 10- Janet Jackson 10- Stevie Wonder 9- The Bee Gees 9- Elton John 9- Usher Raymond 8- George Michael 8- Rihanna 8- The Rolling Stones 7- Phil Collins 7- Prince 6- Pat Boone 6- Diana Ross 6- Wings 6- Paula Abdul 6- Hall & Oates 5- Puff/P. Diddy 5- Lionel Ritchie 5- Ludacris 5- Beyonce 5- KC & Sunshine Band 5- Boyz II Men 5- Barbara Streisand 5- The Eagles 5- The Four Seasons 5- Olivia Newton John 4- 50 Cent 4- Alicia Keys 4- The Platters 4- The Temptations 4- Justin Timberlake 4- TLC 4- The Jackson 5 4- Nelly 4- Jay-Z 4- Cher 4- Blondie 4- The Everly Brothers 4- Eminem 4- Bon Jovi 4- Christina Aguilera 4- Jennifer Lopez 4- Destiny's Child 4- Rod Stewart 4- Donna Summer 4- The Beach Boys 4- John Denver 4- Celine Dion 4- Bobby Vinton Beyonce is like the Paula Abdul of our time. She's just not as highly regarded as everyone thinks.  DOnt make me laugh. Im not really a fan of Yonka, but that statement is wrong on so many levels. |
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 10, 2010 21:08:42 GMT -5
The thing about #1s is that they dont define an artist's worth.If Beyonce/Eminem/Celine never get another #1 they still would be better and more sucessful/respected than Rihanna. As far as Im concerned she can beat Mariah's record but she still would have had the impact she did. regarding mariah. yes shes had impact, but on you. im pretty young and most of my friends and i dont know any mariah pre we belong together. she hasnt made a big impact recently. rihanna is making a big impact recently, and her music will impact the future generation. mariah has made big impact. rihanna is currently making hers for the newer audience. shes starting trends and examples for people im music, just like mariah once did. |
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Nov 10, 2010 21:11:56 GMT -5
The thing about #1s is that they dont define an artist's worth.If Beyonce/Eminem/Celine never get another #1 they still would be better and more sucessful/respected than Rihanna. As far as Im concerned she can beat Mariah's record but she still would have had the impact she did. regarding mariah. yes shes had impact, but on you. im pretty young and most of my friends and i dont know any mariah pre we belong together. she hasnt made a big impact recently. rihanna is making a big impact recently, and her music will impact the future generation. mariah has made big impact. rihanna is currently making hers for the newer audience. shes starting trends and examples for people im music, just like mariah once did. How old are you and your friends... |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 10, 2010 21:24:35 GMT -5
I can see what pno means. It makes me feel old as hell, but I am teaching students right now who are 17-18 years old. That means most of them were babies or not even born when a lot of the artists I would consider big, huge, influential people were big. They just do not GET why Mariah, Madonna, Nirvana, and others are considered the biggest, most influential musicians. One of them also referred to Britney Spears as "she was a pop star a long time ago, right? **twitches** Anyway, I suppose my point is that musical influence is a strange thing and it is hard for me to imagine not being alive or just being a baby during some of these artists major runs. It definitely changes the perspective. They also named Lady Gaga as the voice of their generation lol-and NO I did not influence this at all. I asked out of curiosity  |
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 10, 2010 21:30:29 GMT -5
regarding mariah. yes shes had impact, but on you. im pretty young and most of my friends and i dont know any mariah pre we belong together. she hasnt made a big impact recently. rihanna is making a big impact recently, and her music will impact the future generation. mariah has made big impact. rihanna is currently making hers for the newer audience. shes starting trends and examples for people im music, just like mariah once did. How old are you and your friends... 14-19. although regarding that last comment for britney spears. most people i know remember her for gimme more vmas, womanizer and circus song, but mostly just for the controversey she had after greatest hits MP |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 10, 2010 21:35:01 GMT -5
Yeah that is true-when we were discussing people they seemed to know her for the whole mental breakdown thing over having a connection to her being the biggest pop star ever or knowing her earlier material. Like, one acted like she barely knew she did music. Its just strange talking to them about music because it is so different from my own perspective or on here where everyone is at least somewhat musically knowledgeable and in love with pop stars.
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Post by as485y on Nov 10, 2010 21:43:20 GMT -5
Beyonce and Paula Adbul? lawd carry me higher lol Bey stomped Paula's ass after her first CD
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Nov 10, 2010 22:32:56 GMT -5
im feeling very old at 22 right now.
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Post by summers on Nov 10, 2010 22:45:05 GMT -5
They campared because Rihanna is most likely the person (if anyone) that will snatch Mariah's wig. Congrats RiRi 8 #1 in just 5 years I think the most impressive aspect of Rihanna's success is the small window of time she's had to do it. How she's able to solidify such great producers and writers year after year for bonafide hits this quickly is simply impressive. Not just 8 US #1s, but 17 US Top 20s in five years. Her album sales may be dragging, but she and her management sure know what they are doing about the hits. Didn't Mariah also collected her first eight #1's within a five year time frame? Edit: Obviously, I didn't read the previous pages of this thread, LOL. I stand corrected. |
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Post by dv8 on Nov 10, 2010 22:56:37 GMT -5
The thing about #1s is that they dont define an artist's worth.If Beyonce/Eminem/Celine never get another #1 they still would be better and more sucessful/respected than Rihanna. As far as Im concerned she can beat Mariah's record but she still would have had the impact she did. regarding mariah. yes shes had impact, but on you. im pretty young and most of my friends and i dont know any mariah pre we belong together. she hasnt made a big impact recently. rihanna is making a big impact recently, and her music will impact the future generation. mariah has made big impact. rihanna is currently making hers for the newer audience. shes starting trends and examples for people im music, just like mariah once did. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 10, 2010 23:00:11 GMT -5
Beyonce actually has garnered more reverence than Paula Abdul.
And some are still getting into the No. 1s discussion? After it's been established many times that it has nothing to do with an act's reverence or acclaim/importance. Yes, I said acclaim. :) Look at the list of acts with the most No. 1 hits and then compare to their performance at acclaimedmusic. A completely different picture in many instances. I don't think Aretha Franklin and The Boss are crying about not having 2 and ZERO No. 1 hits on the Hot 100.
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