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Post by $uperb@tDuDe on Jan 16, 2011 16:34:03 GMT -5
So Rihanna has the song to cross 160+M since 'Lollipop' right? Lillipop hit 160 AL  It's the biggest airplay hit since Bey "Irreplaceable" Wow didn't realize that, nice |
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Post by poproyalty on Jan 16, 2011 17:20:50 GMT -5
Britney's 'Hold It Against Me' is set to break 50 million AI in its first week alone.
In comparison, 'Womanizer' peaked with 70 million AI after 8 weeks.
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Post by kingofpain on Jan 16, 2011 17:31:02 GMT -5
I just can't believe how radio is so reluctant to give Edward Maya any more spins?!?! The song is still in the top 15 on itunes - why is it stalling in airplay? What a load of $hit! You say this practically every day. You do understand that airplay is not some hegemonic thing, right, it's composed of a bunch of different formats. Songs that get super high AI are songs that cross over to lots of formats. Stereo Love is pretty much a strictly CHR song. Its airplay is quite good for that. You seem shocked that a song by a new, foreign artist with little crossover appeal isn't automatically #1. It's doing way better than I would have ever guessed. Hardly every day. So what if I am following the "chart success" of Edward Maya? Are you going to try and put everyone else in their place who has to talk about Taylor, Britney, Eminem, Mariah, etc every day? This is a thread about Hot 100 songs and their chart growth. I would suggest that if my observations of a song that I enjoy "put you off", then just skip over them. I am shocked that a song by a foreign artist with little crossover appeal is stalling at radio here, he can't seem to crack the 50 million mark in audience impressions. But you know who else faced that battle and won last year? La Roux. If they can do it, why can't Edward Maya do it? It's not just "my personal thoughts and opinion" as to why this song should be more successful, it's not sitting at #17 on the Hot 100 because of MY preference. Get over yourself. |
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Post by badrobot on Jan 16, 2011 17:38:23 GMT -5
Beatles: 14 songs in one week
David Cook: 11 songs in one week
Taylor Swift: 11 songs in one week
I do not know the other artists who have achieved 7+ but I would guess at these possibilities:
Lil Wayne
Kanye West
T-Pain
Glee
and maybe a few others.
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Post by badrobot on Jan 16, 2011 17:42:00 GMT -5
You say this practically every day. You do understand that airplay is not some hegemonic thing, right, it's composed of a bunch of different formats. Songs that get super high AI are songs that cross over to lots of formats. Stereo Love is pretty much a strictly CHR song. Its airplay is quite good for that. You seem shocked that a song by a new, foreign artist with little crossover appeal isn't automatically #1. It's doing way better than I would have ever guessed. Hardly every day. So what if I am following the "chart success" of Edward Maya? Are you going to try and put everyone else in their place who has to talk about Taylor, Britney, Eminem, Mariah, etc every day? This is a thread about Hot 100 songs and their chart growth. I would suggest that if my observations of a song that I enjoy "put you off", then just skip over them. I am shocked that a song by a foreign artist with little crossover appeal is stalling at radio here, he can't seem to crack the 50 million mark in audience impressions. But you know who else faced that battle and won last year? La Roux. If they can do it, why can't Edward Maya do it? It's not just "my personal thoughts and opinion" as to why this song should be more successful, it's not sitting at #17 on the Hot 100 because of MY preference. Get over yourself. Whoa, that was an extreme reaction. All I said was that you have said this multiple times, and I tried to provide an explanation for why it is not at #1 on airplay. You have repeatedly asked "why is it stalling?" If you are not looking for an answer, why are you asking the question? Frankly I look at Stereo Love and see an amazing success story for the US, which typically ignores songs of this style. For some reason you are focusing only on the negative and are complaining about its performance. I never said I was putting you in your place or that you put me off? Why did you put that in quotes as if I had said it? I think if you re-read what I said you'll see you have interpreted some sort of angry hateful tone that wasn't ever there. |
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Post by slw84 on Jan 16, 2011 18:40:03 GMT -5
Beatles: 14 songs in one week David Cook: 11 songs in one week Taylor Swift: 11 songs in one week I do not know the other artists who have achieved 7+ but I would guess at these possibilities: Lil Wayne Kanye West T-Pain Glee and maybe a few others. So beatles...wow :o David cook=American Idol...next...not all of them were actual singles Tswift=amazing but not all of them were actual singles. I'm sure Lil wayne has done it... Tpain...maybe I don't think Kanye has... Glee...of course. So I should clarify...Nicki would be the first female to have 7 actual singles solo and features at one time but judging by Love the way you lie's chart position last week it might be off the charts this week so... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2011 19:12:01 GMT -5
What is an "actual single"? Do you mean "radio single"?
We have radio singles that get played on radio and show up on your airplay charts
We have digital singles that you can buy on itunes
However these are all still singles.
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Post by Tea-why on Jan 17, 2011 8:45:48 GMT -5
The Beatles own the Hot 100.
Great airplay for Britney.
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Post by cube84 on Jan 17, 2011 8:49:30 GMT -5
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Post by slw84 on Jan 17, 2011 9:14:07 GMT -5
What is an "actual single"? Do you mean "radio single"? We have radio singles that get played on radio and show up on your airplay charts We have digital singles that you can buy on itunes However these are all still singles. Yeah...meaning a single that is actually having the purpose of being promoted. For instance, a song released to radio, has a video and is not only charting the week of and the week following album release because people are just buying the songs. With the beatles, were they all singles that fit that bill? I would assume because they were so huge. I could see them having 4 or 5 albums on the album charts at one time much less 13 songs...they were that popular. To me, I consider songs that are that debut during album release week and there for one or two weeks before falling off not official singles at that time.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 10:04:25 GMT -5
Does it need to achieve a certain level of airplay to be a "single"? For example, Is reaching #70 on Hot 100 Airplay being a single but #71 is not?
Does the video need to be on a music video channel or youtube or some other outlet?
Under this definition, the Beatles had no official singles since they had no videos.
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Post by Lockheart on Jan 17, 2011 10:30:21 GMT -5
Here we go with the "single" discussion. If that were the case, then labels shouldn't focus on having a "lead single" or second, third, fourth single if anything that chart is a "single".
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Post by poproyalty on Jan 17, 2011 10:30:26 GMT -5
Britney is almost at 50 million in audience in just 7 days.
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The girl is setting the bar so high for future competition.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 10:48:07 GMT -5
Here we go with the "single" discussion. If that were the case, then labels shouldn't focus on having a "lead single" or second, third, fourth single if anything that chart is a "single". What is your definition of a "single"? Does it need a video? Does it need radio airplay? If so, how much? Does it need to chart a certain position on an airplay chart to be single? Is it something that you are able to purchase? If so, where? Just sayin, based on the previous defintion, the Beatles never had an "actual single" because they never sent videos to youtube or MTV upon release Other questions: Is it possible to hit #1 on the Hot 100 with being a "single"? Does the Hot 100 differentiate between what a "single" is and what isn't? If so, how? |
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Post by pnobelysk on Jan 17, 2011 10:52:36 GMT -5
Beatles: 14 songs in one week David Cook: 11 songs in one week Taylor Swift: 11 songs in one week I do not know the other artists who have achieved 7+ but I would guess at these possibilities: Lil Wayne Kanye West T-Pain Glee and maybe a few others. So beatles...wow :o David cook=American Idol...next...not all of them were actual singles Tswift=amazing but not all of them were actual singles. I'm sure Lil wayne has done it... Tpain...maybe I don't think Kanye has... Glee...of course. So I should clarify...Nicki would be the first female to have 7 actual singles solo and features at one time but judging by Love the way you lie's chart position last week it might be off the charts this week so... you are making this record very, very picky. i dont think her record she mean anything to taylors. who cares if they were actual singles. if taylor's team wanted them to all be singles maybe it wouldve happened with her. nicki's feat is impressive, but nothing close to taylors. |
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Post by Lockheart on Jan 17, 2011 10:58:46 GMT -5
Here we go with the "single" discussion. If that were the case, then labels shouldn't focus on having a "lead single" or second, third, fourth single if anything that chart is a "single". What is your definition of a "single"? Does it need a video? Does it need radio airplay? If so, how much? Does it need to chart a certain position on an airplay chart to be single? Is it something that you are able to purchase? If so, where? Just sayin, based on the previous defintion, the Beatles never had an "actual single" because they never sent videos to youtube or MTV upon release Other questions: Is it possible to hit #1 on the Hot 100 with being a "single"? Does the Hot 100 differentiate between what a "single" is and what isn't? If so, how? Of course not. I don't think a single necessarily needs to have a music video or have a certain amount of airplay. Like what slw84 tried to say, a single is a an album track promoted to sell an album. Basically to me, these "singles" that chart on Hot 100 due to downloads are just album tracks, not singles. The general consensus, not those who follow charts, probably don't even recognize those charted songs as singles. I don't think BB needs to have a definition of a single. With the way the chart is right now, anything can chart which automatically makes it a "single", so it would be pointless |
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Post by pnobelysk on Jan 17, 2011 11:52:06 GMT -5
Beatles: 14 songs in one week David Cook: 11 songs in one week Taylor Swift: 11 songs in one week I do not know the other artists who have achieved 7+ but I would guess at these possibilities: Lil Wayne Kanye West T-Pain Glee and maybe a few others. ive been wondering.with the hype for brits new record, do you guys think shes guna be able to have a lot of album tracks make the hot 100 this go round. maybe not taylor swift amount, but maybe like 7? |
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Post by Lockheart on Jan 17, 2011 11:54:16 GMT -5
Beatles: 14 songs in one week David Cook: 11 songs in one week Taylor Swift: 11 songs in one week I do not know the other artists who have achieved 7+ but I would guess at these possibilities: Lil Wayne Kanye West T-Pain Glee and maybe a few others. ive been wondering.with the hype for brits new record, do you guys think shes guna be able to have a lot of album tracks make the hot 100 this go round. maybe not taylor swift amount, but maybe like 7? Probably not that much. 3 maybe the most. I know Circus only yielded Kill The Lights to chart |
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Post by jink on Jan 17, 2011 11:58:33 GMT -5
ive been wondering.with the hype for brits new record, do you guys think shes guna be able to have a lot of album tracks make the hot 100 this go round. maybe not taylor swift amount, but maybe like 7? Probably not that much. 3 maybe the most. I know Circus only yielded Kill The Lights to chart Shattered Glass - #70 Kill the Lights - #11 on Bubbling Under Out from Under - #19 on Bubbling Under |
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Post by pnobelysk on Jan 17, 2011 12:07:07 GMT -5
Probably not that much. 3 maybe the most. I know Circus only yielded Kill The Lights to chart Shattered Glass - #70 Kill the Lights - #11 on Bubbling Under Out from Under - #19 on Bubbling Under and circus it sell right? |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jan 17, 2011 12:15:25 GMT -5
Britney's 'Hold It Against Me' is set to break 50 million AI in its first week alone. In comparison, 'Womanizer' peaked with 70 million AI after 8 weeks. I wonder if the # of pop stations has to do with this on some level. |
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Post by Lockheart on Jan 17, 2011 12:33:05 GMT -5
Probably not that much. 3 maybe the most. I know Circus only yielded Kill The Lights to chart Shattered Glass - #70 Kill the Lights - #11 on Bubbling Under Out from Under - #19 on Bubbling Under Yeah, those two were bubbling under. I don't really care if some album track charts though. They won't do anything really |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 12:39:38 GMT -5
Britney's 'Hold It Against Me' is set to break 50 million AI in its first week alone. In comparison, 'Womanizer' peaked with 70 million AI after 8 weeks. I wonder if the # of pop stations has to do with this on some level. More likely. Firework and WMN got a huge boost in AI from the new stations also, a couple days ago they were getting 5-7M updates so Brit is probably benefiting from the perfect timing of that. Amazing result either way...it's almost obvious at this point that she will cross the 100M mark. What's her highest AI totals anyway? |
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Post by Eqbk on Jan 17, 2011 13:04:37 GMT -5
Britney Spears' 'Hold It Against Me' Soars Onto Pop Songs Chart As forecast after its massive first-day airplay, Britney Spears' "Hold It Against Me" roars to a record-setting debut on Billboard's Pop Songs chart. The first single from Spears' forthcoming ninth album storms the survey at No. 16 with 4,071 plays, the highest detections total by a debuting title in the chart's 18-year history. "Hold It Against Me" also ties Madonna's "Frozen" (No. 16, March 7, 1998) for second-highest launch in the list's archives. Only Mariah Carey's "Dreamlover" began at a higher rank, having rocketed in at No. 12 the week of Aug. 14, 1993. The Pop Songs chart lists the most-played songs on 130 mainstream top 40 radio stations, according to Nielsen BDS. "Hold It Against Me" received airplay on all 130 reporting stations in the chart's tracking week (Jan. 10-16). The song's first-week airplay translates to 36.4 million listener impressions, the week's 10th-highest mainstream top 40 audience total. KHOP (@95-1)/Modesto, Calif., led all pop reporters with 104 opening-week plays. "Over the last decade, Britney Spears has had her ups and downs. But, every time she drops new music, it is an event for the format," says KHOP program director MoJoe Roberts. "We often tend to wait for audience research to come back strong to power up certain hits. This, however, is one of those rare tracks, like Katy Perry's 'California Gurls' or P!nk's 'Raise Your Glass,' that I put right into power rotation after one listen. "Audience reaction to her new single has been nothing short of amazing. This is another pure pop smash from Ms. Spears." The cut concurrently debuts on Dance Airplay at No. 24, Rhythmic (No. 37) and Adult Pop Songs (No. 40). "Hold It Against Me" is likely to make further historic headlines this week when it's expected to become just the 18th song to debut at No. 1 since the Billboard Hot 100 began in 1958. As previously reported, the song is projected to exceed 400,000 in first-week download sales, according to industry sources. www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/britney-spears-hold-it-against-me-soars-1004139232.story#/column/chartbeat/britney-spears-hold-it-against-me-soars-1004139232.story
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Post by badrobot on Jan 17, 2011 14:10:14 GMT -5
The "what is a single?" discussion becomes kind of pointless.
Billboard will show everything that charts on the Hot 100 as a "single." So from the official perspective, this argument is moot.
If you have your own personal consideration for what counts as a single, you can make your own list, but it's going to be your list and your list only...
I think everyone understands that there is a difference between a song that is "actively" pushed as a single vs. one that just happens to chart. But what 2m is rightly pointing out is that the line between the two is by no means easy to delineate and thus kind of pointless from a "records" perspective.
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Post by stanr on Jan 17, 2011 14:18:54 GMT -5
I wonder if the # of pop stations has to do with this on some level. More likely. Firework and WMN got a huge boost in AI from the new stations also, a couple days ago they were getting 5-7M updates so Brit is probably benefiting from the perfect timing of that. Amazing result either way...it's almost obvious at this point that she will cross the 100M mark. What's her highest AI totals anyway? Toxic peaked at 90M AI |
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Post by #LisaRinna on Jan 17, 2011 14:45:06 GMT -5
Only Mariah Carey's "Dreamlover" began at a higher rank, having rocketed in at No. 12 the week of Aug. 14, 1993. :'( :'( |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 15:22:36 GMT -5
More likely. Firework and WMN got a huge boost in AI from the new stations also, a couple days ago they were getting 5-7M updates so Brit is probably benefiting from the perfect timing of that. Amazing result either way...it's almost obvious at this point that she will cross the 100M mark. What's her highest AI totals anyway? Toxic peaked at 90M AI That seems sort of low for her but I guess she hadn't really benefited from a crossover hit so if that's all from pop then that's kind of incredible. |
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Post by d.t.m on Jan 17, 2011 15:32:42 GMT -5
^Britney has always been primarily a POP darling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 16:10:11 GMT -5
That seems sort of low for her but I guess she hadn't really benefited from a crossover hit so if that's all from pop then that's kind of incredible. Toxic also went top 20 rhythmic and top 40 hot adult. |
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