Lady GaGa - Judas

[TGIF]

Judas is #11 on itunes now glad the video is helping it back up! hope it stabilizes soon and doesnt fall fast because airplay is still sucking

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

So regardless of sales, it'll be certified double platinum once eligible?

[freeman]

^ I suppose. They do certify albums by shipments.

[kmbgs]

May 6, 2011 17:01:38 GMT -5 xxfetchmonsterxx said:

Edge of Glory is NOT I repeat NOT the 3rd single! It's a promo single that will kick off the itunes countdown!!!! She wouldn't release a power ballad as the third single.

As if power ballads as third singles are not the norm?

[xxfetchmonsterxx]

May 6, 2011 17:35:32 GMT -5 kmbgs said:

May 6, 2011 17:01:38 GMT -5 xxfetchmonsterxx said:

Edge of Glory is NOT I repeat NOT the 3rd single! It's a promo single that will kick off the itunes countdown!!!! She wouldn't release a power ballad as the third single.

As if power ballads as third singles are not the norm?

Not for her. I don't really think she would release a third single, regardless of what it sounds like, on Monday anyways. She seems like the type to have faith in her singles.

[nightshade]

May 6, 2011 17:14:55 GMT -5 Push The Button said:

FYI - first initial shipment for the album has surpassed the 2 million mark.

I'm buying my two copies...perhaps more to give as birthday gifts and what not later.

The standard version of the album will be $7.99 at Best Buy! Get it.

May 6, 2011 17:35:32 GMT -5 kmbgs said:

May 6, 2011 17:01:38 GMT -5 xxfetchmonsterxx said:

Edge of Glory is NOT I repeat NOT the 3rd single! It's a promo single that will kick off the itunes countdown!!!! She wouldn't release a power ballad as the third single.

As if power ballads as third singles are not the norm?

Power ballads are the norm? Since when? Mariah and Whitney are not the current pop stars, FYI. Ballads in general aren't even the norm, at the moment.

[F.A.M.O.U.S.]

Um LOL u do know theres a difference between power ballad and a reg. ballad right???

[Love Plastic Love]

I do think under slightly different circumstances this could have been a big hit, but at this point it is not going to do it. I do hope it could go at least top 10 on pop, but I have resigned myself to think being her first flop or under-performing single. One in 9 songs is not a big deal to me though. I do really, really hope the next single is a hit though. I also don't think they should wait forever for single #3.

I am also happy that the video is getting mostly good reviews and zoomed it up from 28 to 11 fairly quickly. Proves to me that under slightly different circumstances this song would have been a bigger hit-just wasn't the right single at the right time with the right type of hype surrounding it. I do think the Judas video was a move in the correct direction of what people want from Gaga (in various ways over the BTW video) so I hope they continue that with the third single.

I have been hearing that the label did not really want BTW or Judas released-I am going to be slightly pissed at Gaga if the other possible single choices (the next three have been pretty much decided already if we get three more singles of course) are pop perfection all #1s I know Gaga has a certain vision and wants certain things so I respect that, but I wish she would play the game a bit more for a bit longer for my own selfish reasons.

[Love Plastic Love]

I am assuming when they say ballad they mean one of those ballads that basically isn't a ballad-a modern day ballad. Most of the "ballads" released nowadays are pretty far from the Mariah/Whitney days.

[David]

Like I said before, getting positive buzz is what she needs most right now. Rush releasing a new single without fixing her current "image" isn't going to fully help. I mean, unless it's like amazing. I also agree with LPL, this being her first flop is fine. All the greats have flops. It's not like it somehow weakens her. In fact, I think it makes her stronger.

[jebsib]

Power Ballads were traditionally ballads performed by rock bands with electric guitars (power chords) Things like Bryan Adams' Heaven and stuff by Journey (Open Arms)

The torch songs belted out by the likes of Whitney, Mariah and Celine were just ballads.

[When I Ruled the World]

May 6, 2011 18:13:12 GMT -5 David said:

I also agree with LPL, this being her first flop is fine. All the greats have flops. It's not like it somehow weakens her. In fact, I think it makes her stronger.

Yes.

Now expectations won't be through the roof for everything she releases (as far as chart positions go).

I would rather this have been a huge hit (assuming it won't be), but it's not so bad if it's not. Lower expectations aren't necessarily a bad thing.

We've heard many clips from the album, and I love them all. I'm certain I'll enjoy the album, and I'm expecting the general public will as well.

[tsw2008]

May 6, 2011 16:32:22 GMT -5 Black Jesus said:

May 6, 2011 16:09:04 GMT -5 tsw2008 said:

what ? you lost me there ??? This has nothing to do with "proper English" It's called an opinion. Good God you little monsters are really unbearable.

LOL well this 'unbearable' Monster speaks English. You said THIS IS GOING TO.... which implies that you know that it's going to happen. Instead, you should have said I THINK THIS IS GOING TO, implying you predict that's what is going to happen since it's not certain that will happen (aka your OPINION)

And that was grammar 101 for ya ;)

Maybe you should shore up on your English because you are confusing terms. Look up the meaning and concept of the word "grammar" and "phrasing" before trying to school someone. You have a long way to go before you can become a member of the "Grammar Police".

Everything stated on an internet forum implies an opinion, do you not understand that ? I don't have to say "in my opinion" every time I post something.

[KMJ1]

May 6, 2011 16:49:07 GMT -5 JayBoozer said:

May 6, 2011 14:14:37 GMT -5 tsw2008 said:

I don't think it's the religious references, this song just sounds like something you would hear on a dance floor of a gay club. Not everyone feels that kind of a sound myself included. Same with Born This Way.

It sounds like cheesy 90s euro pop.

Um, Born This Way hit #1 on pop and the Hot 100 and that was literally a gay anthem. This is much more in the vein of Bad Romance, but regardless you could say that about pretty much every Lady GaGa song because every single of hers was played on a dance floor at a gay club... I would know.

lmao um..it wasnt even semi "literally" a gay anthem. It was a wannabe DOA poor mans/ chump change I Will Survive. Only the really dumb down gays, super crazy GaGa loons thought this was any kind of "mega, impactful, gay anthem" lol.

[Au$tin]

May 6, 2011 18:13:12 GMT -5 David said:

Like I said before, getting positive buzz is what she needs most right now. Rush releasing a new single without fixing her current "image" isn't going to fully help. I mean, unless it's like amazing. I also agree with LPL, this being her first flop is fine. All the greats have flops. It's not like it somehow weakens her. In fact, I think it makes her stronger.

I still find it extremely unfortunate that out of all her singles, this is the one that is going to do so. :( I guess there's just too many people offended by the Biblical references and allusions. It's an excellent song. Quickly becoming my second favorite Gaga song behind "Just Dance." I would've rather "Alejandro" or "Born This Way" had been her flops, not this.

[David]

I don't even know if it's people offended by it, or people just not connecting with it or getting it. I dont even think it's offensive.

[Au$tin]

May 6, 2011 18:58:44 GMT -5 David said:

I don't even know if it's people offended by it, or people just not connecting with it or getting it. I dont even think it's offensive.

Me neither, but I know a lot of people do, which makes no sense.

[giancarlo]

May 6, 2011 18:58:44 GMT -5 David said:

I don't even know if it's people offended by it, or people just not connecting with it or getting it. I dont even think it's offensive.

Well, it's offensive to me...
I was cool with the song, considering it was only a metaphor for betrayal.
But I have started to dislike it ever since she released that MV...
I can't believe it's getting good reviews...
I don't see the "art" or "creativity" in this.
She's not "celebrating Faith", she's only confusing the world.
I may be biased, since I'm Catholic.
But, I hope she leaves religion alone once and for all after this single...
It always comes across as an insult towards the Christian community.

[Deleted]

May 6, 2011 17:14:55 GMT -5 Push The Button said:

FYI - first initial shipment for the album has surpassed the 2 million mark.

Oh really? I'm glad you've straightened that out with absolutely nothing to back it up with.

[Love Plastic Love]

I think a lot of us here don't realize how conservative Christian America still is. Like, these are subjects and names that you DO NOT EVER use in any way except in Church for a lot of Christians.

[Kii]

Tbh I don't think she ever planned on catering to the 'conservative'. That's clearly not what she stands for.

Those types would be judgmental and dislike anything she released cause of what she stands for and who she is, doesn't matter if she makes a generic hit or something more controversial at this point. lol

[safarisam1986]

i doubt being "conservative americans" has anything to do with it. most of gagas fanbase (teens/early adults) have no idea who judas even really is - and i didnt see the video has gaga exploiting these characters so much just as her putting them in to visually enchance her song - which has nothing to do with judas or jesus - shes stated its about a relationship - judas is just a metaphor - nothing more!!

[lugus15]

The video is the least offensive to those so called Christians.

It's just another interpretation of Jesus and the twelve apostles (one done very respectfully IMO). Personally, and I must add that I'm Christian myself, found that the Jesus in the video was someone one could relate to and identify as Jesus.

And FYI for those Catholics who claim this is blasphemy, the Medieval Interpretation of Jesus (all white with auburn beard, etc.) and his apostles is just that: an interpretation.

Jesus and his apostles were Jewish (with Middle Eastern features, etc.).

[lugus15]

May 6, 2011 19:31:59 GMT -5 giancarlo said:

May 6, 2011 18:58:44 GMT -5 David said:

I don't even know if it's people offended by it, or people just not connecting with it or getting it. I dont even think it's offensive.

Well, it's offensive to me...
I was cool with the song, considering it was only a metaphor for betrayal.
But I have started to dislike it ever since she released that MV...
I can't believe it's getting good reviews...
I don't see the "art" or "creativity" in this.
She's not "celebrating Faith", she's only confusing the world.
I may be biased, since I'm Catholic.
But, I hope she leaves religion alone once and for all after this single...
It always comes across as an insult towards the Christian community.

Please, she IS celebrating faith, her Faith.

Just because she is a Catholic who accepts, celebrates and loves all God's creatures (ahem.... gays, lesbians, trans genders, etc.) doesn't make her any less a Christian or a believer in God.

If anything the song is in contradiction to the video. In the video not once she ¨chooses¨ Judas over Jesus.... in fact it seems like she is rejecting Judas (and her sin past: like Mary Magdalene did) for Jesus.

[🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾]

May 6, 2011 20:13:20 GMT -5 lugus15 said:

The video is the least offensive to those so called Christians.

It's just another interpretation of Jesus and the twelve apostles (one done very respectfully IMO). Personally, and I must add that I'm Christian myself, found that the Jesus in the video was someone one could relate to and identify as Jesus.

And FYI for those Catholics who claim this is blasphemy, the Medieval Interpretation of Jesus (all white with auburn beard, etc.) and his apostles is just that: an interpretation.

Jesus and his apostles were Jewish (with Middle Eastern features, etc.).

I thought her interpretation was pretty respectful as well. Putting the names of each apostle and Judas on their jackets, and then Jesus with the identifiable crown of thorns. I kept waiting for something really shocking to happen because of the alleged controversy that was surrounding the video, but that time didn't come for me. Perhaps the most shocking thing was just that nothing of that sort happened.

She could have had actors of any ethnicity playing the different roles and some will still have a problem with it.

[Choco]

But if GaGa's portraying Mary Magdalene, why is she shown as a lover, and why is she stoned in the end?

I believe she was stoned at the end because she knew Judas was going to betray Jesus but she didn't tell because she loved 'Judas'.

Or maybe she just wanted to recreate as most biblical scenes as possible.

[giancarlo]

May 6, 2011 20:18:28 GMT -5 lugus15 said:

Please, she IS celebrating faith, her Faith.
Just because she is a Catholic who accepts, celebrates and loves all God's creatures (ahem.... gays, lesbians, trans genders, etc.) doesn't make her any less a Christian or a believer in God.
If anything the song is in contradiction to the video. In the video not once she ¨chooses¨ Judas over Jesus.... in fact it seems like she is rejecting Judas (and her sin past: like Mary Magdalene did) for Jesus.

May 6, 2011 20:32:28 GMT -5 Choco said:

I believe she was stoned at the end because she knew Judas was going to betray Jesus but she didn't tell because she loved 'Judas'.
Or maybe she just wanted to recreate as most biblical scenes as possible.

Perfect explanation, both of you.

May 6, 2011 20:19:28 GMT -5 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 said:

I thought her interpretation was pretty respectful as well. Putting the names of each apostle and Judas on their jackets, and then Jesus with the identifiable crown of thorns.

Normally, I wouldn't change my mind.
But I'm kind of embarrassed...
I don't see anything wrong with it now.

[lugus15]

May 6, 2011 20:41:05 GMT -5 giancarlo said:

May 6, 2011 20:18:28 GMT -5 lugus15 said:

Please, she IS celebrating faith, her Faith.
Just because she is a Catholic who accepts, celebrates and loves all God's creatures (ahem.... gays, lesbians, trans genders, etc.) doesn't make her any less a Christian or a believer in God.
If anything the song is in contradiction to the video. In the video not once she ¨chooses¨ Judas over Jesus.... in fact it seems like she is rejecting Judas (and her sin past: like Mary Magdalene did) for Jesus.

Perfect explanation, both of you.

May 6, 2011 20:19:28 GMT -5 🅳🅸🆂🅲🅾 said:

I thought her interpretation was pretty respectful as well. Putting the names of each apostle and Judas on their jackets, and then Jesus with the identifiable crown of thorns.

Normally, I wouldn't change my mind.
But I'm kind of embarrassed...
I don't see anything wrong with it now.

She has said that she is a believer and Catholic. She has been much maligned by the Christians/Catholics because she doesn't have their closed minded view of Christianity, but an open, all accepting one.

Personally, I believe, that when it's time for her to meet her Creator, He will definitely say to her: ¨Job well done¨.

¨Job well done¨ because she has used her ¨fame¨ and ¨music¨ to touch countless people, people who are oppressed and abused.

[When I Ruled the World]

May 6, 2011 20:32:28 GMT -5 Choco said:

I believe she was stoned at the end because she knew Judas was going to betray Jesus but she didn't tell because she loved 'Judas'.

:o


Thank you! Now that part makes sense to me. I agree with you, but I did not understand that part.

[poproyalty]

With Ellen, Oprah, American Idol, E! and a big budget video, this has ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE NOT to go #1 at this point.

It is not even album release week and she is already getting the best promotion across the board.