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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2011 13:37:33 GMT -5
Love, love, love the video! This song is so awesome. Shame it ain't doing better, maybe things will change...
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Post by tsw2008 on May 6, 2011 14:14:37 GMT -5
I'm really starting to think that the religious references are part of why this song is not doing well. She took a risk, and it seems like its backfired. It sucks because I still think its one of her best songs AND videos. I don't think it's the religious references, this song just sounds like something you would hear on a dance floor of a gay club. Not everyone feels that kind of a sound myself included. Same with Born This Way. It sounds like cheesy 90s euro pop.
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Post by kjw518 on May 6, 2011 14:15:02 GMT -5
The video is 10 times better than Born This Way, imo.
I really liked her dancing in it. It got a little weird after that lipstick gun thing, but I still really liked it.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 6, 2011 14:15:29 GMT -5
The video is 10 times better than Born This Way, imo. I really liked her dancing in it. It got a little weird after that lipstick gun thing, but I still really liked it. I think the record company may be jumping the gun just a bit because the Judas video is clearly having a dramatic effect on the song's popularity on Itunes.
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Post by fridayteenage on May 6, 2011 14:18:19 GMT -5
Not on topic, but Speak Now & Britney are not the same. One had 5 songs in the T20 vs. 0. One had 14/14 songs chart on H100 vs. 2. As for radio, for core formats: Pop Britney peaked at 15, 37, 21, & 32 - with the highest of those peaking at #30 for overall airplay. Country Taylor peaked so far at 2, 3, & 9 (and her two pop airplay singles peaked higher than any of Britney's 3rd album singles) - with two hitting #7 for overall airplay.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 6, 2011 14:21:09 GMT -5
Judas is #12 now!
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Post by Black Jesus on May 6, 2011 14:24:15 GMT -5
So glad to see the RealTime update is + so far and the video is really helping the song move up iTunes. I hope this is a turnaround!
I'm also glad to see that EOG is the iTunes countdown single and not the new radio single. I knew Interscope wouldn't give up.
Video is #1 on iTunes...not that it wasn't expected or anything lol
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Post by tsw2008 on May 6, 2011 14:25:11 GMT -5
It will get a boost for a few days and then fall off. I remember when Christina released her NMT video it got a boost too for a few days.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 6, 2011 14:26:17 GMT -5
It will get a boost for a few days and then fall off. I remember when Christina released her NMT video it got a boost too for a few days. Oh yes, o wise one. Because you can predict the future! And since Christina and GaGa share similar popularity rankings right now
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Post by tsw2008 on May 6, 2011 14:28:27 GMT -5
It's called an opinion deal with it, it's a concept that very few "little monsters" seem to understand.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 6, 2011 14:29:31 GMT -5
The Monster Ball ends tonight and has officially become the most successful debut tour :'( It's called an opinion deal with it, it's a concept that very few "little monsters" seem to understand. You said "it's going to..." not "I think it's going to..." It's called proper English, use it
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Post by bibliotheque on May 6, 2011 14:30:14 GMT -5
It will get a boost for a few days and then fall off. I remember when Christina released her NMT video it got a boost too for a few days. Yeah, except NMT moved up something like 60-50
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Post by nightshade on May 6, 2011 14:31:06 GMT -5
It will get a boost for a few days and then fall off. I remember when Christina released her NMT video it got a boost too for a few days. I have a feeling this will happen as well. An effect like this can only last for so long.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 6, 2011 14:36:00 GMT -5
OMG...from the Billboard article :'(
Lada Gaga's 200 reported Monster shows grossed $227.4 million and drew 2.5 million people, according to numbers reported to Billboard Boxscore. Depending on how several other tours shake out this year, Monster Ball is flirting with becoming one of the top 10 highest-grossing tours of all time.
Legend :'( :'(
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 6, 2011 14:37:48 GMT -5
It will get a boost for a few days and then fall off. I remember when Christina released her NMT video it got a boost too for a few days. I have a feeling this will happen as well. An effect like this can only last for so long. I think it's gonna have a lesser Telephone like bounce.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 6, 2011 14:39:22 GMT -5
It will get a boost for a few days and then fall off. I remember when Christina released her NMT video it got a boost too for a few days. Yeah, except NMT moved up something like 60-50 If the dance mix was the radio version NMT would've smashed. What a missed opportunity.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 6, 2011 14:43:25 GMT -5
Just over 24 hours on VEVO I believe: 3,004,390 views
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Post by chartfreak on May 6, 2011 14:47:48 GMT -5
Sorry, so does this mean the 3rd single is out on Monday?
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Post by nightshade on May 6, 2011 14:53:19 GMT -5
Sorry, so does this mean the 3rd single is out on Monday? Buzz single.
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Post by August on May 6, 2011 14:57:06 GMT -5
From today's Billboard.com:
Two superstar divas -- Lady Gaga and BeyoncΓ© -- both have eagerly-awaited albums on the way, but their latest singles are getting a less-than-spectacular reaction on the charts. Is there cause for alarm?
First up is Lady Gaga's "Judas," which falls 6-19 in its third week on Digital Songs with 81,000 according to Nielsen SoundScan (down 48%). It's the second single from Gaga's third studio album, "Born This Way," due out May 23.
The set is easily one of the biggest releases of the year, not just for her label, Interscope, and its parent company Universal Music Group -- but for the entire industry. With 5.8 million albums sold in the U.S. since her "The Fame" debuted in August of 2008, all eyes and ears have been trained on Gaga and what "Born" may sell in its first week.
Could it possibly reach the magic 1 million sales mark in its debut? (A threshold that only 16 albums have achieved, debut or otherwise.)
Back in February, previous to the title track and lead single's unveiling on Feb. 11, that was a line of conversation in the industry -- and not a far-fetched one, either. While a 1 million-start was perhaps always a pie-in-the-sky figure -- even back in February -- a forecast of a 750,000-start was plausible. Now, three long months later -- with "Judas" cooling -- the album's first-week projections have certainly been lowered.
"Judas" launched with 162,000 after it bowed on Friday, April 15, with only three days of sales (SoundScan's tracking week ends on Sunday of each week). Though one would have suspected it would have grown in sales after it had a full week under its belt -- it actually declined, shifting 156,000 in its second week on the tally.
Compare that to the arrival of "Born This Way," which dropped on the morning of Friday, Feb. 11. It debuted with 448,000 downloads, logging the largest debut sum for a female artist. Then, in its second (and first full) week, it increased to 509,000 -- up 14% -- earning the fourth-largest week ever for a digital download and just the fifth song to shift more than 500,000 in a week.
"Born This Way" -- which famously became the Billboard Hot 100's 1,000th No. 1 single when it debuted atop the list -- went on to become the year's third-biggest selling single, with 2.5 million downloads sold. Only Katy Perry's "E.T." (2.8 mil) and Cee Lo Green's "F**k You (Forget You)" (2.6 mil) have shifted more.
Keep in mind of course that "Born" was an incredibly anticipated song that was sure to be a blockbuster -- and thus apples-to-apples comparisons are unfair.
On the Hot 100 -- which combines sales, airplay and streaming data -- "Judas" debuted well at No. 10, but then fell to No. 12 in its second week and this week descends to No. 20. On its component Hot 100 Airplay chart, which monitors more than 1,200 radio stations, the song bowed at No. 48 three weeks ago with 26 million in audience impressions according to Nielsen BDS. However, its rise has been slow (if not at least steady). In week number two it moved up to No. 36 with 33.6 million and then this week it shuffles up three spots to No. 31 with 34.6 million.
Meanwhile, "Born This Way" exploded onto the Hot 100 Airplay chart at No. 6 with 78.6 million out of the gate, quickly rising to No. 4 the following week with 84.7 million. "Born" ultimately hit No. 1 on the Airplay list on the tally dated April 2, with a peak of 106 million. (Again, "Born This Way" was destined to be an out-of-the-box smash, as it had been hyped for months previous to it release, thus making it hard to compare it to "Judas," nor any other single's performance.)
Does any of this spell trouble for the "Born This Way" album? Certainly not. Gaga is cranking up the promotion for the set, and it's likely there won't be any music fans unaware that the album hits retail on the 23rd. This week already she performed on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" and unveiled the music video for "Judas." Next week, she'll mentor the final four contestants on "American Idol." However, it's hard to argue with the notion that a blockbuster second single would have pushed the album even further into the sales stratosphere.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 6, 2011 15:20:20 GMT -5
My thoughts are that Judas will experience a resurgence. Whether that means it will rise indefinitely or just temporarily is to be determined. I think its airplay should rise enough over the next few days to regain some ground while the video should gather enough attention to regain some ground for the next Hot 100.
I think radio stations will jump on Edge of Glory because they can. Even if her songs aren't instant #1 hits (well, only Judas so far), GaGa still has the attention of radio programmers and the public. Every video she releases is an event (hence the big deal surrounding even the video for Judas for premiering on random shows) and the album is still highly anticipated. Stations will probably jump on this new song and possibly even the one that hits iTunes next week as well. Doesn't mean the label will officially send them out as singles.
I think it would be best to wait a few more weeks before deciding whether to send out single #3.
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Post by tsw2008 on May 6, 2011 16:09:04 GMT -5
The Monster Ball ends tonight and has officially become the most successful debut tour :'( It's called an opinion deal with it, it's a concept that very few "little monsters" seem to understand. You said "it's going to..." not "I think it's going to..." It's called proper English, use it what ? you lost me there ??? This has nothing to do with "proper English" It's called an opinion. Good God you little monsters are really unbearable.
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Post by nightshade on May 6, 2011 16:14:10 GMT -5
The Monster Ball ends tonight and has officially become the most successful debut tour :'( You said "it's going to..." not "I think it's going to..." It's called proper English, use it what ? you lost me there ??? This has nothing to do with "proper English" It's called an opinion. Good God you little monsters are really unbearable. No, he's actually right. You don't know if it's going to fall. It could or it could actually maintain that position or go up. You don't know, he doesn't, and I sure as hell don't. You stated it like it was a fact.
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on May 6, 2011 16:29:05 GMT -5
i knew her dancing was remind me something
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Post by Black Jesus on May 6, 2011 16:32:22 GMT -5
The Monster Ball ends tonight and has officially become the most successful debut tour :'( You said "it's going to..." not "I think it's going to..." It's called proper English, use it what ? you lost me there ??? This has nothing to do with "proper English" It's called an opinion. Good God you little monsters are really unbearable. LOL well this 'unbearable' Monster speaks English. You said THIS IS GOING TO.... which implies that you know that it's going to happen. Instead, you should have said I THINK THIS IS GOING TO, implying you predict that's what is going to happen since it's not certain that will happen (aka your OPINION) And that was grammar 101 for ya ;)
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Post by nightshade on May 6, 2011 16:40:51 GMT -5
Up to #11 on iTunes and here is a recent photo of GaGa at the Born This Way press conference in Mexico.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 6, 2011 16:44:50 GMT -5
this will do fine now. PD's will take notice of iTunes and begin spinning more.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 6, 2011 16:46:54 GMT -5
Yes! Top 10 bound baby! Legggoooo!
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Post by JayBoozer on May 6, 2011 16:49:07 GMT -5
I'm really starting to think that the religious references are part of why this song is not doing well. She took a risk, and it seems like its backfired. It sucks because I still think its one of her best songs AND videos. I don't think it's the religious references, this song just sounds like something you would hear on a dance floor of a gay club. Not everyone feels that kind of a sound myself included. Same with Born This Way. It sounds like cheesy 90s euro pop. Um, Born This Way hit #1 on pop and the Hot 100 and that was literally a gay anthem. This is much more in the vein of Bad Romance, but regardless you could say that about pretty much every Lady GaGa song because every single of hers was played on a dance floor at a gay club... I would know.
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Post by xxfetchmonsterxx on May 6, 2011 17:01:38 GMT -5
Edge of Glory is NOT I repeat NOT the 3rd single! It's a promo single that will kick off the itunes countdown!!!! She wouldn't release a power ballad as the third single.
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