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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 4, 2011 0:56:58 GMT -5
I definitely think Gaga's main influence has been on shaping or helping shape current pop fashion. I remember when she was first coming out, started to get attention for her weird stuff including weird crap on her head, and then all of a sudden everyone else was putting weird s**t on their head and doing weird pantless costumes onstage. It isn't deliberate which is what very few on this forum seem to understand. Like, no pop star is staring at Gaga and then thinking I WILL COPY THAT! and no poster here is claiming that is what happens. Influence and fashion are a lot more subtle than that and basically everything moves in waves. Gaga just happened to be a major part in one of those waves. And yes, Gaga had her own older influences as well-none of these waves of pop fashion are original, by any means.
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Post by slayZ on May 4, 2011 1:00:40 GMT -5
gerl let's not go that far. madonna started the leotard trend back in 2005 before anyone else.
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Post by kpasa on May 4, 2011 1:09:03 GMT -5
idk, I'm just trying to look at the "big names" in pop at the moment (and, for the record this is not me trying to bring them into the discussion to start s**t) like Katy Perry, Britney, Ke$ha, Rihanna.. I mean, maybe there's an off chance they wore one outfit the one time that you can find on Google but their images as a whole seem totally different. My point is this White Shadow guy makes it seem like everyone is clambering to get in on this Gaga wave and it's so blatantly obvious that they're taking pages from her book when, really, that just... isn't the case. just kidding he was talking about sound lol (I also disagree), but my opinion on this stands relative to the discussion. I'm 99% sure the Xtina one came out before Gaga... no. This was what started the original Xtina/Gaga "feud" thing. I feel like it's the same people arguing the same bulls**t everytime I come into this thread. I feel like I could write a script of what would be said by each poster. Predictable is a good word to describe these "debates". I need to stop getting sucked into it. Er... this is what we call opinions and I don't even recall this discussion happening before in this thread. If you don't like the discussion at hand feel free to make an exit. No one's forcing you to contribute.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on May 4, 2011 3:37:47 GMT -5
I think GaGa raised the bar for music videos lately. As a result, they're definitely more fun to watch than they were before.
I think it's good when pop stars try to outdo each other in this sense. That means there's more effort being put into these projects.
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on May 4, 2011 4:10:54 GMT -5
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Post by Lozzy on May 4, 2011 4:21:07 GMT -5
I don't get it.
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Post by Sir LOVE IX on May 4, 2011 4:34:46 GMT -5
on one polish forum to end a OT we post some irrelevant picture or sentence like this:
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Post by Feelin'.$$$hady on May 4, 2011 5:33:46 GMT -5
Annie Lennox called.....
lol @ the update
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Post by albes on May 4, 2011 5:52:14 GMT -5
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19 15 LADY GAGA Judas 4950 4301 649 31.506
+31 spins -206 bullet -0.314 Audience
Spins still low and negative audience for a second day in a row. This is getting me really worried.
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Post by Lozzy on May 4, 2011 5:53:01 GMT -5
Good to see a better spin gain, but it's still less than it should be. Not content with two big aud losses two days in a row though.
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Post by Pikachu. on May 4, 2011 6:02:34 GMT -5
I'm confident this will pick up soon.
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Post by Pikachu. on May 4, 2011 6:16:11 GMT -5
This is #24 on iTunes. There seem to be a large number of new releases so it should rise again soon.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 4, 2011 6:26:28 GMT -5
Audience is pissing me off. Hopefully the GaGaDaily minions start their power requesting soon. The video is coming at a great time...I really hope it helps the song. This is #24 on iTunes. There seem to be a large number of new releases so it should rise again soon. Woah that has to be it cause it was like #16 a day ago
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Post by Envoirment on May 4, 2011 6:32:48 GMT -5
Audience is pissing me off. Hopefully the GaGaDaily minions start their power requesting soon. The video is coming at a great time...I really hope it helps the song. This is #24 on iTunes. There seem to be a large number of new releases so it should rise again soon. Woah that has to be it cause it was like #16 a day ago Well there are 3 glee songs in front of her and might be overtaken by another one of two. Hope this picks up more. I also hope the video is good. I think if this videos goes along the lines of Alejandro, then it could be the nail in the coffin for the song.
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Post by cube84 on May 4, 2011 7:16:03 GMT -5
Judas - 81k
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 7:30:24 GMT -5
If this does indeed underperform, it will be a huge blow to gaga's ego which is inflated anyway, IMO.
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Post by KMJ1 on May 4, 2011 8:51:58 GMT -5
lol um what about Everytime We Touch in 2006!?! (THREE years before Just Dance lol)!that was all over radio and went top 10- so why isnt Cascada also consider an "inventor" LOL?
Anyway, back to the thread- the moment I heard Judas I knew it get an initial surge out of whatever hype Gaga has- just on what shes done in the past, but knew the song would slowly but surely go nowhere and its doin just that.
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Post by KMJ1 on May 4, 2011 8:55:18 GMT -5
shes most def. going through the textbook sophmore slump . Like I read somewhere this is every bit as comparible to George Michaels follow up to Faith or Alanis Jagged Little Pill, Paula Abdul 4ever Your Girl etc.. etc..
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Post by tsw2008 on May 4, 2011 9:06:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't call it a textbook sophomore slump at all. She is still huge, Born This Way and Judas are still selling/have sold well world wide and the album is most certainly going to sell a few million.
I can't see how that's s textbook sophomore slump. A textbook sophomore slump is a huge first album followed by a mega flop.
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Post by Epic Fail on May 4, 2011 9:08:40 GMT -5
If this does indeed underperform, it will be a huge blow to gaga's ego which is inflated anyway, IMO. And, Perez hilton may kill himself. Anyway, she has a ton of promo coming up. We will see if that helps.
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Post by Tea-why on May 4, 2011 9:17:02 GMT -5
If this does indeed underperform, it will be a huge blow to gaga's ego which is inflated anyway, IMO. It will be a blessing in disguise lol
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Post by Tea-why on May 4, 2011 9:17:40 GMT -5
If this does indeed underperform, it will be a huge blow to gaga's ego which is inflated anyway, IMO. And, Perez hilton may kill himself. Anyway, she has a ton of promo coming up. We will see if that helps. I hope that hog will finally climb out of Gaga's ass.
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Post by sbk on May 4, 2011 9:20:40 GMT -5
Hmm people are always quick to say Gaga ripped someone off when the slightest similarity occurs, but when someone else does something similar to Gaga, they never admit it. And there's a difference between being the first, and starting a trend.
Everyone knows some dance songs became hits. The point is, it has never been this easy to reach the top with these type of eurodance songs, and Gaga's popularity heavily contributed to that
Gaga features PlentyofFish in her video, suddenly PlentyofFish is in many videos
Gaga re-releases album with new material, and releases seperate EP for new material simultanously, treats EP like it's own era. ~Suddenly~ Usher and Ke$ha re-release in the exact same style.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 9:35:43 GMT -5
I'm 99% sure the Xtina one came out before Gaga... no. This was what started the original Xtina/Gaga "feud" thing. Either way, they're both copied from Britneys toxic outfit. Anyway, I can't understand how a song can go from a 4000 bullet to 300 or so in a few weeks...
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Post by hoangse on May 4, 2011 9:36:31 GMT -5
Audience is pissing me off. Hopefully the GaGaDaily minions start their power requesting soon. The video is coming at a great time...I really hope it helps the song. This is #24 on iTunes. There seem to be a large number of new releases so it should rise again soon. Woah that has to be it cause it was like #16 a day ago Do you think requesting the song can actually affect the song's update on radio?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 9:44:22 GMT -5
^Well on Exhale people were requesting HIAm all day, and when TTWE came out HIAM started plummeting even faster because no one was requesting it, so I think it does.
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Post by tsw2008 on May 4, 2011 9:55:44 GMT -5
Hmm people are always quick to say Gaga ripped someone off when the slightest similarity occurs, but when someone else does something similar to Gaga, they never admit it. And there's a difference between being the first, and starting a trend. Everyone knows some dance songs became hits. The point is, it has never been this easy to reach the top with these type of eurodance songs, and Gaga's popularity heavily contributed to that Gaga features PlentyofFish in her video, suddenly PlentyofFish is in many videos Gaga re-releases album with new material, and releases seperate EP for new material simultanously, treats EP like it's own era. ~Suddenly~ Usher and Ke$ha re-release in the exact same style. you can't be serious. "little monsters" never cease to amaze me. Product placements in videos are nothing new, PlentyofFish probably saw what a video placement did for them and decided to feature in other videos, re-releases are nothing new either. Lady GaGa is not the innovator and visionary her little monsters think she is, she is nothing but a copy cat herself. Get a grip.
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Post by jink on May 4, 2011 10:06:51 GMT -5
Hmm people are always quick to say Gaga ripped someone off when the slightest similarity occurs, but when someone else does something similar to Gaga, they never admit it. And there's a difference between being the first, and starting a trend. Everyone knows some dance songs became hits. The point is, it has never been this easy to reach the top with these type of eurodance songs, and Gaga's popularity heavily contributed to that Gaga features PlentyofFish in her video, suddenly PlentyofFish is in many videos Gaga re-releases album with new material, and releases seperate EP for new material simultanously, treats EP like it's own era. ~Suddenly~ Usher and Ke$ha re-release in the exact same style. you can't be serious. "little monsters" never cease to amaze me. Product placements in videos are nothing new, PlentyofFish probably saw what a video placement did for them and decided to feature in other videos, re-releases are nothing new either. Lady GaGa is not the innovator and visionary her little monsters think she is, she is nothing but a copy cat herself. Get a grip. You just proved their point.
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Post by Black Jesus on May 4, 2011 10:14:41 GMT -5
Lady GaGa is not the innovator and visionary her little monsters think she is, she is nothing but a copy cat herself. Get a grip. Stupidity is not becoming, but proper English is
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Post by Sir Benji on May 4, 2011 10:22:17 GMT -5
Pop Updates 19 15 LADY GAGA Judas 4950 4301 649 31.506 +31 spins -206 bullet -0.314 Audience Spins still low and negative audience for a second day in a row. This is getting me really worried. I hope this isn't stalling. This song is bland but its much better than the lead single. Hopefully this keeps on trucking and goes top 10.
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