Hefty Hanna
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Post by Hefty Hanna on May 4, 2011 10:48:41 GMT -5
LMAO @ people copying PlentyOfFish from GaGa.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on May 4, 2011 10:51:27 GMT -5
Ohhh yep this will be gaga's first hit not to reach the top 10 on the Pop charts. Yikes! I mean it's slowing down at a blistering pace.
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poproyalty
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Post by poproyalty on May 4, 2011 10:58:41 GMT -5
Is it true that Clear Channel is boycotting the single?
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Post by Heartless Angel on May 4, 2011 11:07:40 GMT -5
Does this still have a shot at #1?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 11:14:29 GMT -5
Noticeably absent from the top 10 on Digital Songs are two closely-watched singles from two divas with highly-anticipated albums on the way. First is Lady Gaga's "Judas," which descends 6-19 in its third week on the chart with 81,000 (down 48%). "Judas" is the second offering from Gaga's third studio release, "Born This Way," due out May 23. Secondly, Beyoncé's "Run the World (Girls)" slips 23-39 with 47,000 (down 39%) in its second week on the tally. It's the lead single from B's fourth as-yet-untitled solo album, expected later this year.
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Post by tsw2008 on May 4, 2011 11:17:58 GMT -5
no one is boycotting, it's just a horrible song. It doesn't deserve half the airplay it already got.
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Post by jink on May 4, 2011 11:18:09 GMT -5
Ouch. I hope this isn't beyond repentance, but it's looking less likely.
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Post by ₫anny Jerz ♔ on May 4, 2011 11:29:47 GMT -5
The slowing down on radio combined with the very underwhelming digital performance (especially by Gaga's standards), makes me think that maybe I'm not the only one gradually losing interest in the era.
"Born This Way" was fun and all but the video was questionable. This song is a rather lame attempt at controversy (I still kind of cringe when I hear her stuttering the title, lol) and, again, that album cover, yuck. Not to mention her attitude which is starting to become a bit grating. I do feel the tide turning a bit.
Of course she isn't "doomed" or any of that nonsense. She'll still sell an assload of albums and will still have plenty of success with future singles but I do think the current slowdown is indicative of waning interest due to a number of questionable decisions made thus far this era. She can recover perhaps if the video is solid (but it may also be more of a turn-off) and with another single (maybe "Marry The Night" if it's as good as she claims).
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 11:38:33 GMT -5
what goes up, must come down. every artist faces the downward trend, if in fact this is what's happening. for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. good luck gaga.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 11:48:46 GMT -5
The slowing down on radio combined with the very underwhelming digital performance (especially by Gaga's standards), makes me think that maybe I'm not the only one gradually losing interest in the era. "Born This Way" was fun and all but the video was questionable. This song is a rather lame attempt at controversy (I still kind of cringe when I hear her stuttering the title, lol) and, again, that album cover, yuck. Not to mention her attitude which is starting to become a bit grating. I do feel the tide turning a bit. +1. Of course she isn't "doomed" or any of that nonsense. She'll still sell an assload of albums and will still have plenty of success with future singles but I do think the current slowdown is indicative of waning interest due to a number of questionable decisions made thus far this era. She can recover perhaps if the video is solid (but it may also be more of a turn-off) and with another single (maybe "Marry The Night" if it's as good as she claims). I'm not so sure about that future single success unless those future singles are simple catchy tracks without a pretentious quasi-message. For her to recover, her whole shtick is going to have to be scaled back some and I don't really think Gaga is the type to do that. Like someone mentioned before, her career trajectory might end up being very reminiscent of George Michael's after his first era in regards to the sophomore and onwards.
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Post by Tony on May 4, 2011 12:02:31 GMT -5
This is a horrible single. I've liked every Gaga single 'til now but this is just horrible.
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Post by MikeCheck12 on May 4, 2011 12:05:55 GMT -5
The slowing down on radio combined with the very underwhelming digital performance (especially by Gaga's standards), makes me think that maybe I'm not the only one gradually losing interest in the era. "Born This Way" was fun and all but the video was questionable. Agreed. I actually liked BTW quite a bit at first, but tired of it really quickly.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 12:11:02 GMT -5
LMAO @ people copying PlentyOfFish from GaGa. I LMAO @ the whole thing
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Post by Sir Benji on May 4, 2011 12:18:01 GMT -5
LMAO @ people copying PlentyOfFish from GaGa. I LMAO @ the whole thing As did I. This whole era is becoming an OTT mess . However it sucks that this isn't selling that well and BTW was so huge because BTW sucks (sans the country version) and this actually isn't that bad at all but it is a bit bland, and the lyrics are a mess.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 12:22:07 GMT -5
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Post by JayBoozer on May 4, 2011 12:26:50 GMT -5
no one is boycotting, it's just a horrible song. It doesn't deserve half the airplay it already got. If this was doing very well, everyone would say its because its a great song. Sometimes I feel like the success of a song influences peoples opinion on it. I still love this.
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Post by dadadawn on May 4, 2011 12:27:09 GMT -5
They should have released the album right after BTW. This single isn't that great and has been underperforming everywhere.
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Post by August on May 4, 2011 12:30:44 GMT -5
And I legit can't believe someone just said Gaga started the no-pants-on-stage trend. Madonna - Who's That Girl Tour 1987, Blond Ambition 1990, Confessions Tour 2006, Sticky and Sweet Tour 2008. Before that there was Grace Jones doing it, Debbie Harry, etc. Yes, Gaga is fun and interesting, but I wish you guys would stop pretending she invented everything and that no one else could have possibly thought of what she is doing before she did it. Seriously, I think she is getting some lackluster support this time around because even she is promoting her own bag of bullshit that she invented the universe. Enjoy her music and imagery and accept that other people have done what she is doing as well.
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Post by Ace on May 4, 2011 12:31:40 GMT -5
If this was doing very well, everyone would say its because its a great song. Sometimes I feel like the success of a song influences peoples opinion on it. I still love this. Yeah, but a previous single and era's success also influence performance, and this is following a string of massive songs...this is just a weak single, and that in combination with her recent image in the media aren't winning her much public support.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on May 4, 2011 12:31:54 GMT -5
She's copying Madonna again by being blacklisted from radio! lol, jk.
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Post by nightshade on May 4, 2011 12:32:47 GMT -5
If this was doing very well, everyone would say its because its a great song. Sometimes I feel like the success of a song influences peoples opinion on it. I still love this. Yeah, but a previous single and era's success also influence performance, and this is following a string of massive songs...this is just a weak single, and that in combination with her recent image in the media aren't winning her much public support. "Controversial" message ≠ weak single
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2011 12:37:55 GMT -5
When did he it was a weak single because of the "controversial" message. ??? And I legit can't believe someone just said Gaga started the no-pants-on-stage trend. Madonna - Who's That Girl Tour 1987, Blond Ambition 1990, Confessions Tour 2006, Sticky and Sweet Tour 2008. Before that there was Grace Jones doing it, Debbie Harry, etc. Yes, Gaga is fun and interesting, but I wish you guys would stop pretending she invented everything and that no one else could have possibly thought of what she is doing before she did it. Seriously, I think she is getting some lackluster support this time around because even she is promoting her own bag of bulls**t that she invented the universe. Enjoy her music and imagery and accept that other people have done what she is doing as well. IA but I think it makes it that much harder for stans to accept because she herself sometimes leads them to believe otherwise saying things like "Just because I'm the only ****ing person in pop music that does such and such"
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Post by nightshade on May 4, 2011 12:39:15 GMT -5
When did he it was a weak single because of the "controversial" message. ??? Not what I was saying. I firmly believe that the only reason this isn't doing well is because of the message in Judas.
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Post by Ace on May 4, 2011 12:39:24 GMT -5
"Controversial" message ≠ weak single You're absolutely right, it doesn't. A combination of reheated production, weak hooks + melody, and recycled subject matter, however, do = weak single.
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Post by nightshade on May 4, 2011 12:46:15 GMT -5
"Controversial" message ≠ weak single You're absolutely right, it doesn't. A combination of reheated production, weak hooks + melody, and recycled subject matter, however, do = weak single. Most found the production on this song to be better than BR. The hooks + melody I've heard no major qualms about. Lastly, everything on pop radio is recycled subject matter. This subject matter, however, is something people apparently don't like hearing about. Judas music video premieres tomorrow and I am fucking excited.
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Post by David on May 4, 2011 12:46:23 GMT -5
You know, I jam to this when I listen to it, but I don't ever find myself wanting to listen to it that much or being like "Omg I need to hear Judas". It's so weird. I think it's a good song and really well produced, but it still feels like it's lacking something, and i think it's the fun. BR, while maybe not as dark as this was dark as well, still had an element of fun. Even though I think this is a better produced song than BTW, I think overall BTW was a better single choice. It did have an element of fun to it and while kind of a mess, still seemed like GaGa. This... Just feels void of a soul. If that makes any sense. I hope the video can change that though. I know BR became a lot more than what we initially thought it was after seeing the video.
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Post by Sir Benji on May 4, 2011 12:50:20 GMT -5
I agree about BR i hated that song until the towards the end of it's chart run. Now It's my 2nd favorite GaGa single to date.
I honestly think this song's subject matter/lyrics is the problem.
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Post by Ace on May 4, 2011 12:53:05 GMT -5
Most found the production on this song to be better than BR. The hooks + melody I've heard no major qualms about. Lastly, everything on pop radio is recycled subject matter. This subject matter, however, is something people apparently don't like hearing about. I'm just saying that those are the reasons I don't like it and think it's a weak single. I loved BTW after it grew on me, but this one just doesn't work for me. I think BTW's message is just as "controversial" as Judas'...a lot of people I know don't like it for the same reasons I don't. Not that that is a universal sample, but I'm just saying...it's possible that Gaga actually released a song that isn't connecting with the public because of the music itself.
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Post by David on May 4, 2011 12:57:54 GMT -5
Meh. Bring on the video and if it doesn't work, then move on to something else. She was bound to have a "flop" single eventually. I just hope there's other hits on the album.
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Post by jink on May 4, 2011 13:08:37 GMT -5
I really hoped she wouldn't lose her knack for solid pop hooks on this album. So far, it seems Government Hooker has the best chorus.
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