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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2011 13:36:51 GMT -5
This single "leaked" on purpose. Beyonce's single has been seen and heard in many places and it hasn't leaked yet. No coincidence that Judas leaked 4 days early and Judas betrayed Jesus 4 days before Easter. Another subtle reference she's making. She was retweeting the Soundcloud leaks. She clearly didn't have an issue with it.
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Post by beautynumber2 on Apr 16, 2011 13:48:04 GMT -5
Sorry Gaga fans, but I think you fail to realise that S&M and ET have been selling VERY well all week. And just because "Judas: is #1 on iTunes by a large margin, there is still the main version of S&M and the original version of "E.T."
Gaga barely pulled ahead of "S&M" in terms of sales early early this morning. And her airplay is not doing as well as speculated. Don't forget S&M and E.T. will be tied on airplay at nearly at ~127. Again, this song is NOT "Born This Way." With only 2 days left, I'm sorry but "Judas" looks to debut at #3 behind "S&M" and "E.T" It may pull ahead next week, but this week it's all about S&M. I believe both S&M and "E.T" will beat out Gaga this week in sales alone. 2 days outselling the Top 2 songs at 1.5 is still not enough, she'll average out as selling 70% of what they are daily.
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Post by Choco on Apr 16, 2011 13:51:30 GMT -5
This single "leaked" on purpose. Beyonce's single has been seen and heard in many places and it hasn't leaked yet. No coincidence that Judas leaked 4 days early and Judas betrayed Jesus 4 days before Easter. Another subtle reference she's making. She was retweeting the Soundcloud leaks. She clearly didn't have an issue with it. I believe you're over analyzing it.
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Post by musik... on Apr 16, 2011 13:53:35 GMT -5
If you're calling the remix pathetic because of the intention of securing a better chart position, then what's the point of even following the charts. There are countless examples of labels and artists tweaking songs to improve their chart performance and now it's pathetic?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2011 13:53:36 GMT -5
Sorry Gaga fans, but I think you fail to realise that S&M and ET have been selling VERY well all week. And just because "Judas: is #1 on iTunes by a large margin, there is still the main version of S&M and the original version of "E.T." Gaga barely pulled ahead of "S&M" in terms of sales early early this morning. And her airplay is not doing as well as speculated. Don't forget S&M and E.T. will be tied on airplay at nearly at ~127. Again, this song is NOT "Born This Way." With only 2 days left, I'm sorry but "Judas" looks to debut at #3 behind "S&M" and "E.T" It may pull ahead next week, but this week it's all about S&M. I believe both S&M and "E.T" will beat out Gaga this week in sales alone. 2 days outselling the Top 2 songs at 1.5 is still not enough, she'll average out as selling 70% of what they are daily. TBH I think Judas will debut behind the B.E.P.s aswell. And it's not even outselling the Top2 songs by 1.5, if you combine the 2 versions of them then it's only outselling by 1.1-1.2
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Post by Resident_Evil on Apr 16, 2011 15:37:30 GMT -5
This single "leaked" on purpose. Beyonce's single has been seen and heard in many places and it hasn't leaked yet. No coincidence that Judas leaked 4 days early and Judas betrayed Jesus 4 days before Easter. Another subtle reference she's making. She was retweeting the Soundcloud leaks. She clearly didn't have an issue with it. I think u may be on to something. She is quite intelligent so its totally possible. I think the song lyrically clever as well with its double meaning and her trying to get the church off her back with the "jesus is my virtue" line. :)
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 16, 2011 16:42:02 GMT -5
Well, outside of a few singles, RiRi doesn't burn up the critical lists, so of course she'd be psyched for the charts. :) But, it looks like it's becoming a preoccupation- that has happened for some acts when they attain a level of chart success- it's like they live and breathe the charts, as evidenced by their comments.
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Post by d.t.m on Apr 16, 2011 17:09:04 GMT -5
Well, outside of a few singles, RiRi doesn't burn up the critical lists, so of course she'd be psyched for the charts. :) But, it looks like it's becoming a preoccupation- that has happened for some acts when they attain a level of chart success- it's like they live and breathe the charts, as evidenced by their comments. Or have cake parties for each #1 like one diva.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 16, 2011 17:13:23 GMT -5
If you're calling the remix pathetic because of the intention of securing a better chart position, then what's the point of even following the charts. There are countless examples of labels and artists tweaking songs to improve their chart performance and now it's pathetic? I agree. That's the fun part about it, imo
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Post by KMJ1 on Apr 16, 2011 17:16:41 GMT -5
I have never seen an artist so desperately wanting to reach #1. Rihanna's tweets are just pathetic. I hope itunes makes a glitch and removes sm for a day or so. lol. NO one in R&R history is or will ever be as desperate for #1s as Mimi x1000
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Post by KMJ1 on Apr 16, 2011 17:20:06 GMT -5
Gaga may have shot herself in the foot. Her intial sales burst will now be split over two weeks. Gaga may have shot herself in the same foot multiple x as she did the SAME thing in the UK with BTW lol. She woulda had #1 hands down 1000% if she didnt release it on that Fri. opposed to Sunday there
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Post by slw84 on Apr 16, 2011 17:21:28 GMT -5
I have never seen an artist so desperately wanting to reach #1. Rihanna's tweets are just pathetic. I hope itunes makes a glitch and removes sm for a day or so. lol. NO one in R&R history is or will ever be as desperate for #1s as Mimi x1000 Subjective. Not even beyonce who has admitting in interviews to receiving stats weekly about how each of her products are doing... TBH when you are in it to win it...you care. Some just pretend like they don't and some don't waste their energy pretending.
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Post by Rodze on Apr 16, 2011 18:02:38 GMT -5
TBH when you are in it to win it...you care. Some just pretend like they don't and some don't waste their energy pretending. I think most of them pretend they don't.I'm stupid. TBH I think Judas will debut behind the B.E.P.s aswell. And it's not even outselling the Top2 songs by 1.5, if you combine the 2 versions of them then it's only outselling by 1.1-1.2 Yeah, right now I don't think it is even looking a top 5 debut.
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Post by neverduplicated on Apr 16, 2011 18:40:52 GMT -5
Well, outside of a few singles, RiRi doesn't burn up the critical lists, so of course she'd be psyched for the charts. :) But, it looks like it's becoming a preoccupation- that has happened for some acts when they attain a level of chart success- it's like they live and breathe the charts, as evidenced by their comments. Or have cake parties for each #1 like one diva. Best believe I'd be having much more than cake if one of my songs ever hit #1! Sounds like something worth celebrating!
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Post by $uperb@tDuDe on Apr 16, 2011 20:28:37 GMT -5
I wanna know which artist has cake parties for their #1s, cause that's awesome
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Post by #LisaRinna on Apr 16, 2011 20:30:44 GMT -5
Well, outside of a few singles, RiRi doesn't burn up the critical lists, so of course she'd be psyched for the charts. :) But, it looks like it's becoming a preoccupation- that has happened for some acts when they attain a level of chart success- it's like they live and breathe the charts, as evidenced by their comments. Not wasting any opportunities, I see ;) May I remind you of a certain dream a diva once had and publicly spoke about regarding chart positions?
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Apr 16, 2011 20:44:18 GMT -5
I wanna know which artist has cake parties for their #1s, cause that's awesome The Pregnant Legend that has 18 #1s
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2011 21:22:10 GMT -5
If/When Rihanna hits 10 #1 hits on the Hot 100 she will join a very small and elite community that also includes:
Stevie Wonder The Beatles The Supremes Michael Jackson George Michael Madonna Whitney Houston Janet Jackson Mariah Carey
*If you were to include pre-Hot 100 charts used by Billboard as well, Elvis Presley would also be on this list.
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Post by pokepikalem on Apr 16, 2011 21:29:40 GMT -5
Judas will sell around 160 + 20 AI = 180 charting pts. Can f**k You (110k last week, 100 AI) , Born THis Way (110k last week, 70 AI), Rolling In the Deep (124k last week, 50 AI) , On the Floor (125k last week, 50k AI) chart higher than Judas? Uhm, let me see, debut outside top 5 (it only takes 2 out of these songs chart higher than Judas. Of course fuck you, btw sales are falling) ETA: i forgot look at me now (126k, 71AI) and Down On Me (101k, 95 AI). Falling in sales as well.
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Post by leoapp on Apr 16, 2011 22:14:24 GMT -5
Well, I'm sure Rihanna's team (not sure about Rihanna herself) is starting to be desperate to score as many #1s as possible. Rihanna is currently the only active recording artist with the biggest potential to surpass Mariah. The tactic is doing many collaborations to score #1 easier. It's legal though.
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Post by colson on Apr 17, 2011 0:04:38 GMT -5
^She isn't doing as many collaborations just to get a #1 single. Didn't most of these other artists ask 'her' to collaborate with them? Yes, I heard that her ppl wanted her to collaborate with Britney for the remix, but I'm sure she wasn't sitting there thinking 'oooh, this is how I can get another #1 single.
Outside of this remix, I think most of those collaborations she did was b/c ppl wanted her on their record. Who's going to turn down that kind of money, especially when all you have to do is sing a few hooks and get credit for it? I think it's just easy money for her.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Apr 17, 2011 0:09:49 GMT -5
but I'm sure she wasn't sitting there thinking 'oooh, this is how I can get another #1 single. you don't know that. Have you seen her tweets as of late begging people to buy the remix?
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 17, 2011 0:16:28 GMT -5
No, you, don't, Beysus. :) That certain diva realized how ridiculous it was that she had that dream- she was like, "THIS is what I'm dreaming about." Back in 1996 (a few months after that dream story), she also claimed to not know that she had the most hits or whatever when Bryant Gumbel mentioned it (which I don't know if I believe), and that she thought Whitney had passed her. Gumbel said she was closing in fast and she's like, "Who cares, it's just a bunch of lists, what do they mean..." He also asked her if she cared if this female or that female passed her in hits, and she said no- that they can't do what she does (which I gather she meant in terms of performing and provocation in her work on a range of topics).
In all likelihood, most mainstream acts do enjoy doing well. It's one thing to enjoy doing well, but it's another matter when doing well is what dictates one's music-making and bulk of career.
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Post by Lockheart on Apr 17, 2011 0:18:46 GMT -5
While I do think RiRi is really pimping S&M -- look at her tweets and her interviews always involve her saying "S&M is #1 on iTunes blah blah blah" -- she has every right to do so. Come on, she wants success and who doesn't. Heck, I'd wish Britney would do those things as well
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Post by Tea-why on Apr 17, 2011 0:23:47 GMT -5
I have never seen an artist so desperately wanting to reach #1. Rihanna's tweets are just pathetic. I hope itunes makes a glitch and removes sm for a day or so. lol. NO one in R&R history is or will ever be as desperate for #1s as Mimi x1000 I think Rihanna is on her way. She tweets (and replies to other tweets) about her chart positions every 5 minutes. But I'm glad someone as legendary as Rihanna is finally in the "10-Hot 100 #1" club, joining all of these nobodies like Stevie Wonder, George Michael and The Supremes.
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Post by Tea-why on Apr 17, 2011 0:29:15 GMT -5
Yes, I heard that her ppl wanted her to collaborate with Britney for the remix, but I'm sure she wasn't sitting there thinking 'oooh, this is how I can get another #1 single. I beg to differ... lol Rihanna rihanna Rihanna How #LOUD are u? idj.to/gygVNh love u guys! Thank u for the #MAJAH support! rihanna Rihanna idj.to/gygVNh another day, more S&M! #ilikeitlikeit wuddup Brit? Britney Spearsrihanna Rihanna S S S and M M M idj.to/gygVNh16 Apr Favorite Retweet Reply rihanna Rihanna Hmm... What's up Navy???? Let's get LOUD and spank these ho's!!! #whosyadaddy idj.to/gygVNh Buy S&M on itunes 16 Apr Favorite Retweet Reply rihanna Rihanna #3snaps RT @kimkardashian: SHOW ME how #LOUD YOU are! @rihanna Britney Spears #SnMRIHmix idj.to/gygVNhGrihanna Rihanna RT@fedesaci: @rihanna 51 times #SnMRihmix AM I THE LOUDEST?? twitpic.com/4l7uvc #MAJAH rihanna Rihanna RT@fedesaci: @rihanna 51 times #SnMRihmix AM I THE LOUDEST?? twitpic.com/4l7uvc #MAJAH rihanna Rihanna #MAJAH now that's gonna be hard to beat RT @suchaf_cKnLADY: Ummmmm 31 times and this is the RIHMIX alone ¬_¬ @rihanna plixi.com/p/92691946 rihanna Rihanna Happy BIRTHDAY @esterdean u a bad bitch! But ESPECIALLY cus u wrote our song of the moment #SnMRihmix idj.to/gygVNh #ilikeitlikeit rihanna Rihanna WOW!!! That's FRICKIN impressive hmm... RT @janat8: @rihanna I'm LOUD! #S&MRIHmix! plixi.com/p/92689409rihanna Rihanna idj.to/gygVNh RT @rihanna: #SnMRihmix SHOW ME how LOUD u are and win my #SnMsurprise rihanna Rihanna #SnMRihmix SHOW ME how LOUD u are and win my #SnMsurprise 15 Apr Favorite Retweet Reply Rihanna rihanna Rihanna How many of u already bought #SnMRihmix I got sumn special for one of u lucky rascals!So hard to choose, u all bought so many! #whosLOUDEST rihanna Rihanna idj.to/gygVNh RT @lydiaaburke: Cannot stop listening to @rihanna & Britney Spears remix! It's amazing <3 rihanna Rihanna idj.to/gygVNh RT @nickjbremner: Wow. Just heard @rihanna and Britney Spears remix. Love it! X rihanna Rihanna Hey let's all buy #SnMRihmix on itunes idj.to/gygVNh I'm on itunes right now *clicks BUY for the 5th time* MAN I love me some Britney rihanna Rihanna I love u guys!!! plixi.com/p/9249413214 Apr Favorite Retweet Reply Rihanna rihanna Rihanna #SnMRihmix idj.to/gygVNh plixi.com/p/9228816614 Apr Favorite Retweet Reply + a lot more... She seems to only be posting the link to the US i-tunes store lol
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Post by Lockheart on Apr 17, 2011 0:48:05 GMT -5
ROFL RiRi is such a PIMP. Obviously Slothney is too lazy to even promote it, so RiRi had to step up her game and do everything
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Post by jink on Apr 17, 2011 0:49:51 GMT -5
RiRi is working like she's paying her bills.
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Post by Tea-why on Apr 17, 2011 0:54:29 GMT -5
She couldn't even tell Esther Dean happy birthday without posting the i-tunes link lol
And this #SnMsurprise is similar to Mariah offering her fans to have dinner with her if they bought the i-tunes single of "Shake It Off". :/
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Post by jink on Apr 17, 2011 0:55:13 GMT -5
She couldn't even tell Esther Dean happy birthday without posting the i-tunes link lol Ester gets $$$ from S&M, though, so maybe that's her gift.
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