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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 14:48:03 GMT -5
3rd week in the Top10 for Britney :"))) Hope she stays stable at #8-10.
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Post by neverduplicated on Apr 21, 2011 16:22:02 GMT -5
This thread is so entertaining :'( Thank you all for making my day! For those who are pressed about Rihanna hitting number 1 - lighten up. It's just the charts. You may complain about tactics or what have you, but fact is that the song is number 1 in airplay and sales this week - so how exactly is it not the number 1 song in the country? Thought so. For those concerned about their own divas being taken over - once again, lighten up. The charts are not the end all be all of everything. Like someone said, it's not number 1's that made Mariah, Madonna, Michael, the Beatles, and Elvis legends. It was that they all brought something completely new and awe-inspiring to popular music that so many who have followed in their footsteps have idolized and copied to death. If Rihanna's legacy lives on for generations to come, it'll be because of her music and not the fact that she has so many number 1's. To Rihanna - congratulations! No matter what anyone says, 10 number 1's is very impressive. Obviously it's not something anyone can do. In fact, it's something almost no one can do. No amount of "tricks" or "tactics" can take a song to number 1 if it's not extremely popular already. To HolidayGuy - this is a thread about the charts and no one wants to hear that crap about critical acclaim that you keep spewing out every time you get pressed about someone's success that isn't Madonna's. A critic's opinion is no more important than that of millions of people who tune in on the radio and purchase music every week. Critics aren't the only ones that make musicians legends. Millions of music listeners who tune into the radio and purchase music do as well. Deal with it and stop using that critical acclaim argument every time any diva amounts to some success. You make these threads really unpleasant by demeaning the accomplishments of artists who work their butts off to make quality music that people will enjoy. Thank you and have a good evening!  |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Apr 21, 2011 17:31:46 GMT -5
To HolidayGuy - this is a thread about the charts and no one wants to hear that crap about critical acclaim that you keep spewing out every time you get pressed about someone's success that isn't Madonna's. A critic's opinion is no more important than that of millions of people who tune in on the radio and purchase music every week. Critics aren't the only ones that make musicians legends. Millions of music listeners who tune into the radio and purchase music do as well. Deal with it and stop using that critical acclaim argument every time any diva amounts to some success. You make these threads really unpleasant by demeaning the accomplishments of artists who work their butts off to make quality music that people will enjoy. Thank you and have a good evening!  |
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Post by slw84 on Apr 21, 2011 20:40:02 GMT -5
This thread is so entertaining :'( Thank you all for making my day! For those who are pressed about Rihanna hitting number 1 - lighten up. It's just the charts. You may complain about tactics or what have you, but fact is that the song is number 1 in airplay and sales this week - so how exactly is it not the number 1 song in the country? Thought so. For those concerned about their own divas being taken over - once again, lighten up. The charts are not the end all be all of everything. Like someone said, it's not number 1's that made Mariah, Madonna, Michael, the Beatles, and Elvis legends. It was that they all brought something completely new and awe-inspiring to popular music that so many who have followed in their footsteps have idolized and copied to death. If Rihanna's legacy lives on for generations to come, it'll be because of her music and not the fact that she has so many number 1's. To Rihanna - congratulations! No matter what anyone says, 10 number 1's is very impressive. Obviously it's not something anyone can do. In fact, it's something almost no one can do. No amount of "tricks" or "tactics" can take a song to number 1 if it's not extremely popular already. To HolidayGuy - this is a thread about the charts and no one wants to hear that crap about critical acclaim that you keep spewing out every time you get pressed about someone's success that isn't Madonna's. A critic's opinion is no more important than that of millions of people who tune in on the radio and purchase music every week. Critics aren't the only ones that make musicians legends. Millions of music listeners who tune into the radio and purchase music do as well. Deal with it and stop using that critical acclaim argument every time any diva amounts to some success. You make these threads really unpleasant by demeaning the accomplishments of artists who work their butts off to make quality music that people will enjoy. Thank you and have a good evening! Hahaha...werque. |
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Post by Choco on Apr 21, 2011 22:30:26 GMT -5
 this was indeed an entertaining thread. I found it weird that they added Britney to the official credit, but then again Billboard does have some weird rules when it comes to credits. Remember Ke$ha didn't get credit in the US for 'Right Round'. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Apr 21, 2011 22:32:36 GMT -5
 this was indeed an entertaining thread. I found it weird that they added Britney to the official credit, but then again Billboard does have some weird rules when it comes to credits. Remember Ke$ha didn't get credit in the US for 'Right Round'. That was Kesha's doing not Billboards. |
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Post by Lockheart on Apr 21, 2011 22:35:31 GMT -5
this was indeed an entertaining thread. I found it weird that they added Britney to the official credit, but then again Billboard does have some weird rules when it comes to credits. Remember Ke$ha didn't get credit in the US for 'Right Round'. That was Kesha's doing not Billboards. Exactly. As far as I know, she didn't like Right Round, hence, she didn't appear on the video |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Apr 21, 2011 22:39:01 GMT -5
I certainly am not limited to talking about Madonna as the only acclaimed act in the galaxy- there are plenty of others, thanks much. :) And mentioning acclaim and artistic rep is not meant to diminish anyone's success- rather, to point out that chart feats and stats does not a legend make- which most understand, I believe, but there are some who have the impression that it does mean more than it does.
That's all, and a good night you, as well!
RE Ke$ha- she was credited for two weeks (on the track's 4th and 5th weeks), but then was removed. technically, she should go in the record books for those two weeks, but I don't think Billboard counts it for her.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2011 22:40:38 GMT -5
this was indeed an entertaining thread. Since I am kind of late to the party, not gonna choose to read the 19 pages  Although it seems to be a big week for this board |
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Post by Choco on Apr 21, 2011 22:42:26 GMT -5
That was Kesha's doing not Billboards. Exactly. As far as I know, she didn't like Right Round, hence, she didn't appear on the video Oh, I remember reading that it was actually the label wanting to show another girl instead of her... but it's ok, Ke$ha ended up being big herself. |
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Post by leoapp on Apr 21, 2011 22:49:51 GMT -5
this was indeed an entertaining thread. I found it weird that they added Britney to the official credit, but then again Billboard does have some weird rules when it comes to credits. Remember Ke$ha didn't get credit in the US for 'Right Round'. Maybe Billboard gave Britney the credit cos they felt really guilty with Blackout - The Eagles drama  |
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Post by neverduplicated on Apr 22, 2011 0:20:56 GMT -5
Longevity watch - songs with the most weeks on the Hot 100. Bruno coming for week 40. It's pretty obvious the "F**k You" will make it there as well. With those two songs and "Dynamite" be able to do a whole year on the chart?
46 weeks - Taio Cruz, Dynamite (#44)
39 weeks - Bruno Mars, Just The Way You Are (#35)
34 weeks - Cee Lo Green, F**k You (Forget You) (#5)
32 weeks - Waka Flocka Flame Featuring Roscoe Dash & Wale, No Hands (#50)
29 weeks - Bruno Mars, Grenade (#23)
29 weeks - Pitbull Featuring T-Pain, Hey Baby (Drop It To The Floor) (#28)
29 weeks - Christina Perri, Jar Of Hearts (#39)
28 weeks - P!nk, Raise Your Glass (#42)
28 weeks - Edward Maya & Vika Jigulina, Stereo Love (#48)
26 weeks - Katy Perry, Firework (#22)
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Post by Eqbk on Apr 22, 2011 0:39:18 GMT -5
this was indeed an entertaining thread. I found it weird that they added Britney to the official credit, but then again Billboard does have some weird rules when it comes to credits. Remember Ke$ha didn't get credit in the US for 'Right Round'. Maybe Billboard gave Britney the credit cos they felt really guilty with Blackout - The Eagles drama It's probably b/c the labels wanted it to be that way and Billboard obliged. This is the first prominent Britney feature. I highly doubt Jive and Britney's team would have just handed Rihanna's team/label something as exclusive as a Britney feature w/o making sure they get something in return. It was the same thing w/ Ke$ha, the label (or Ke$ha?) wanted her name off the credits and Billboard obliged. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2011 1:19:19 GMT -5
Exactly. As far as I know, she didn't like Right Round, hence, she didn't appear on the video Oh, I remember reading that it was actually the label wanting to show another girl instead of her... but it's ok, Ke$ha ended up being big herself. I heard her say in an interview that she new Flo rida would use her as a whore in the video, and she didn't want to do that. |
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Post by ranjit on Apr 22, 2011 3:49:13 GMT -5
I certainly am not limited to talking about Madonna as the only acclaimed act in the galaxy- there are plenty of others, thanks much. :) And mentioning acclaim and artistic rep is not meant to diminish anyone's success- rather, to point out that chart feats and stats does not a legend make- which most understand, I believe, but there are some who have the impression that it does mean more than it does. That's all, and a good night you, as well! RE Ke$ha- she was credited for two weeks (on the track's 4th and 5th weeks), but then was removed. technically, she should go in the record books for those two weeks, but I don't think Billboard counts it for her. I'll tell you what REAL acclaim is? It's when the singer has some real musicianship skills, when he/she is actually able to sing and not just ordinarily. When the singer can actually sing in Jazz scales as opposed to singing over a jazz instrument. It's when the singer can sing exactly on pitch and spin melismatic phrases, which are always true to chord arrangement, build on those phrases and then bring the song to an explosive climax. For THAT, they get real acclaim. This is the reason why artists like madonna,etc can never be able to get acclaim like Aretha, Ella, Barbra, Stevie, Whitney, Mariah. They may not enjoy 'acclaim' of Pop critics, but they certainly do enjoy acclaim for their musicianship skills which cannot be bought or even earned. When you can see the blatant influence of a single phrase of melisma on the entire world of singing contests like American Idol, etc. , then you know for sure just how big the artist's impact has been. Sorry. |
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Post by wavey. on Apr 22, 2011 4:00:31 GMT -5
8-)Ke$ha wanted her own #1 hit,thus making her not credited of RR.
(Basically she didn't wanna be popular just cause of Flo)
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Post by Enigma. on Apr 22, 2011 6:20:49 GMT -5
[quote author=leoapp board=gmn thread=105552 post=3330305 Maybe Billboard gave Britney the credit cos they felt really guilty with Blackout - The Eagles drama [/quote] I think this post sums up pretty much the whole thread |
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Post by KingB on Apr 22, 2011 7:23:07 GMT -5
No Bubbling Under this week?
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Post by Lockheart on Apr 22, 2011 7:29:34 GMT -5
Oh, I remember reading that it was actually the label wanting to show another girl instead of her... but it's ok, Ke$ha ended up being big herself. I heard her say in an interview that she new Flo rida would use her as a whore in the video, and she didn't want to do that. BINGO! |
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Post by Choco on Apr 22, 2011 20:36:24 GMT -5
Longevity watch - songs with the most weeks on the Hot 100. Bruno coming for week 40. It's pretty obvious the "F**k You" will make it there as well. With those two songs and "Dynamite" be able to do a whole year on the chart? 46 weeks - Taio Cruz, Dynamite (#44) 39 weeks - Bruno Mars, Just The Way You Are (#35) 34 weeks - Cee Lo Green, F**k You (Forget You) (#5) 32 weeks - Waka Flocka Flame Featuring Roscoe Dash & Wale, No Hands (#50) 29 weeks - Bruno Mars, Grenade (#23) 29 weeks - Pitbull Featuring T-Pain, Hey Baby (Drop It To The Floor) (#28) 29 weeks - Christina Perri, Jar Of Hearts (#39) 28 weeks - P!nk, Raise Your Glass (#42) 28 weeks - Edward Maya & Vika Jigulina, Stereo Love (#48) 26 weeks - Katy Perry, Firework (#22) I hope Firework is able to outlast Grenade. Looks like this is the last week for Stereo Love too. Had a great run. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2011 20:38:06 GMT -5
I heard her say in an interview that she new Flo rida would use her as a whore in the video, and she didn't want to do that. BINGO! Because heaven forbid Ke$ha look like a whore? ??? |
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Post by poproyalty on Apr 22, 2011 21:27:48 GMT -5
UPDATE: Britney will only get credit during the week/s when the remix sells more than the original. Link: www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/ask-billboard-britney-spears-rihanna-hits-1005150552.story#/column/chartbeat/ask-billboard-britney-spears-rihanna-hits-1005150552.story"We may reconsider artist listings on a week-to-week basis and adjust accordingly, based on which version is a given week's top seller. A similar chart precedent even exists: for past listings of double-sided singles on the Hot 100, the first-listed titles could flip-flop based on which was the dominant selling side (based on retail reports) week-to-week. "The case of 'S&M' isn't the last such a late-in-the-game guest artist remix that we'll see, either; a remix of Spears' 'Till the World Ends' - sporting Ke$ha and Nicki Minaj - arrives next week." At least we now have a clear rule given that remixing a a single is now becoming another trend. |
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Post by popstop on Apr 22, 2011 23:12:07 GMT -5
^Well, OK, but when the chart run of S&M is done, how will Billboard handled Britney's stats? Will she have a #1 because of this one week or will it be invalidated by her lack of appearance in the other weeks?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 3:49:57 GMT -5
^Well, OK, but when the chart run of S&M is done, how will Billboard handled Britney's stats? Will she have a #1 because of this one week or will it be invalidated by her lack of appearance in the other weeks? She will indeed be credited with this #1. Where the difference will come in is when Billboard lists chart runs. There, Britney's number will be different from Rihanna's - for example, let's say S&M spends a total of 30 weeks on the chart, and in eight of those weeks the remix sold more than the original. Britney will be credited with the #1; she will then be credited for an eight-week run (or for separate runs, if the eight weeks are nonconsecutive). Rihanna, meanwhile, will be credited for a #1 single with a 30-week run. I'm fine with this rule but it might call for readjusting if they end up with several high-charting songs where the remix makes up, say, 40-45% of the total sales in a week. It's not a majority, but still quite a sizable chunk, and if the song is #1 that week it would be fair to reason that it probably wouldn't have achieved that without the 40%+ boost that the remix brought in. Billboard may have to consider making a percentage rule out of this instead of one based on majority. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2011 4:46:57 GMT -5
Because heaven forbid Ke$ha look like a whore? ??? This was back in early 2009 before she decided to use the drunk whore image |
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Post by Choco on Apr 23, 2011 18:44:00 GMT -5
Then it looks like Britney will have a 1 or 2 week run with S&M, the remix is already behind the original in sales again.
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Post by poproyalty on Apr 23, 2011 23:28:30 GMT -5
Britney will only have a one-week credit for S&M.
The remix is down to #48 on iTunes.
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Post by popstop on Apr 24, 2011 21:04:42 GMT -5
Thanks, Cynthia! Bizarre. She'll be credited with a #1 song with a one week run. I suppose it's appropriate and deserved though. It wouldn't have made #1 without the remix.
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Post by pnobelysk on Apr 25, 2011 9:32:43 GMT -5
No Bubbling Under this week? we havnt gotten it for a few weeks :( |
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Post by bruno on Apr 26, 2011 8:54:46 GMT -5
Britney will only have a one-week credit for S&M. The remix is down to #48 on iTunes. At least it is the most important week! The 5th #1's for Britney!!!!!!! |
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