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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2011 19:18:55 GMT -5
Kellie will be performing Tough on the new season of 90210 when it premiers in September That's the exact promo she needs!
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Post by Black Jesus on Aug 14, 2011 19:30:40 GMT -5
Finally in the Top 30.
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Post by onebuffalo on Aug 15, 2011 13:26:34 GMT -5
Kellie will be performing Tough on the new season of 90210 when it premiers in September That's the exact promo she needs! Well, she needs to do a Jay Leno, David Letterman, Jimmy Fallon, Craig Ferguson, or Conan O'Brien show in August. September may be too late!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2011 14:54:01 GMT -5
I highly doubt September will be too late. It's perfect...they're not going to give up on "Tough" anytime soon. The song hasn't shown any signs of defeat...true, it's moved up slowly, but with the chart slowdown we've endured, that's been the case for almost everyone who's not an A-list star.
With "Tough" being the lead single to an upcoming album, they will keep pushing it for quite some time yet, I'm sure. Only if radio were to suddenly decide to not play this would BNA then send out a different song in hopes of scoring that big enough hit needed to launch an album. I still think "Tough" will be that song. I am not sure at this point about its top 10 prospects, but I think this will at least do top 20 and thus be big enough to get that album out.
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Post by austin on Aug 15, 2011 16:21:52 GMT -5
I agree with jhomes. This will be a slow climber and in the end will perform like just about every other Kellie Pickler single, peaking inside the Top 20.
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Post by melmusicfan on Aug 19, 2011 4:21:53 GMT -5
I can't believe she's not even shooting the video until tomorrow. Why did they wait so long? I'm really rooting for Kellie as I don't think she gets the respect or the radio play she deserves for some great singles in the past, but this era is starting out pretty slow. She really needs some momentum. I wish she had a label that would make her a priority.
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Post by draggintheriver on Aug 19, 2011 5:28:30 GMT -5
It seems like they delay every single possible thing when it comes to Kellie during this era. I hate it :(. She mentioned on Twitter she was filming it on Tuesday (8/16). Maybe it was due to weather or something.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2011 16:05:27 GMT -5
I think she's doing just fine. I don't know why anyone would've expected this song to just blaze up the chart...Kellie Pickler hasn't had a huge breakthrough hit yet, so she's not just gonna fly up the chart. There are a lot of new artists out there fighting to move up as well, so sometimes the slow road is better.
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Post by Black Jesus on Aug 20, 2011 21:22:49 GMT -5
Tough is moving so slow it's painful to watch. I'm so sick of radio not spinning her.
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Post by layne on Aug 20, 2011 22:22:53 GMT -5
Tough is moving so slow it's painful to watch. I'm so sick of radio not spinning her. I totally agree but it's not just her, Lots of great songs never get heard.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2011 23:24:43 GMT -5
Tough is moving so slow it's painful to watch. I'm so sick of radio not spinning her. Like I said, it's that way for everyone. Take a look at some of the other songs around "Tough" on the chart. "Tough" is 11 weeks old, Joe Nichols' summer song "Take It Off" is 13 weeks old (2 places higher at #28), even Alan Jackson, at #29, is 9 weeks old...I thought he'd be higher given his name alone. Hunter Hayes' "Storm Warning" is 16 weeks old, Eden's Edge's "Amen" is 21 weeks old, James Wesley's "Didn't I" is 18 weeks old, and Gloriana's "Wanna Take You Home" is 23 weeks old. None of this group (Kellie included) is an A-list star, not even Alan Jackson anymore, unfortunately. So they just gotta hope they're picking the right singles and endure long, slow climbs up the chart. After a while, a hit or two can give them some momentum, and, if they choose the right follow-up singles, soon they might be able to climb up the chart as fast as an emerging artist like Chris Young or Luke Bryan. But of course, for every new person who begins to make regular trips to the top 10, an "older" star is going to start to fade.. It's just a tough industry.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 20, 2011 23:27:37 GMT -5
I'm not concerned at all for this single yet. It may have slowed down quite a bit, but I really didn't expect anything more from a Kellie Pickler single... and in all honesty, this one had a pretty solid start compared to some of her past hits. I would not be surprised if this is still on the charts for a long time making a slow but steady climb to the Top 10, hopefully becoming her biggest hit to date.
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Post by draggintheriver on Aug 21, 2011 11:32:35 GMT -5
It's just a tough industry. No pun intended?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2011 14:49:43 GMT -5
^Haha, correct you are...no pun was actually intended but it worked well as an indirect one, lol.
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Post by Black Jesus on Aug 22, 2011 19:31:11 GMT -5
I'm not concerned at all for this single yet. It may have slowed down quite a bit, but I really didn't expect anything more from a Kellie Pickler single... and in all honesty, this one had a pretty solid start compared to some of her past hits. I would not be surprised if this is still on the charts for a long time making a slow but steady climb to the Top 10, hopefully becoming her biggest hit to date. I'm not that concerned either but it's just painful to watch when this song has been out soooo long. She should be on single #2 already! At this rate, the single will peak in like October or November.
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Post by McCreerian (Harris 2024!) on Aug 22, 2011 19:40:45 GMT -5
I hate how the chart trends seem to take longer every year. I mean look at 10 years ago, it was maybe 4 months. Now its 6-7 months on average. That means less music gets made and it takes longer to build a career. I've never understood why that trend started happening over the last decade and its just getting worse. I mean we still have exceptions every now and then like "Remind Me" and "Honeybee" but 80% of songs seem to climb and peak in 25+ week cycles now. So frustrating!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 22, 2011 21:46:25 GMT -5
I'm not concerned at all for this single yet. It may have slowed down quite a bit, but I really didn't expect anything more from a Kellie Pickler single... and in all honesty, this one had a pretty solid start compared to some of her past hits. I would not be surprised if this is still on the charts for a long time making a slow but steady climb to the Top 10, hopefully becoming her biggest hit to date. I'm not that concerned either but it's just painful to watch when this song has been out soooo long. She should be on single #2 already! At this rate, the single will peak in like October or November. Tough has only been out 2 months... ??? And Best Days of Your Life (her highest charting single), was released in Nov/Dec and charted until like July of the next year. So, I'd say this could be around for awhile longer than just October (if the plan is for it to grow into a big hit, which I can see happening).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2011 23:18:03 GMT -5
I hate how the chart trends seem to take longer every year. I mean look at 10 years ago, it was maybe 4 months. Now its 6-7 months on average. That means less music gets made and it takes longer to build a career. I've never understood why that trend started happening over the last decade and its just getting worse. I mean we still have exceptions every now and then like "Remind Me" and "Honeybee" but 80% of songs seem to climb and peak in 25+ week cycles now. So frustrating! I really don't get this argument at all. You tell me how the singles are supposed to climb the chart faster if we've got a ton of veterans (George Strait, Alan Jackson, Reba...even Toby Keith and others) who are still fighting very hard to keep their radio careers going, while there are a TON of new acts. I mean, there are 24 artists on Sony (Arista, BNA, Columbia, and RCA) alone, 23 artists on Universal (Mercury and MCA), nearly 20 on Warner, 12 on the Big Machine label group, 14 on Capitol/EMI, and a bunch more on other indie labels, including Curb, Show Dog-Universal, Bigger Picture Group, Broken Bow, Average Joe's, etc. If a newer act is going to really break through, someone else has to fall off a bit...so unless George or Reba completely disappear, or Jason Aldean stops getting hits, slow is the only way to go for those newer artists, or someone like Kellie who isn't exactly new, but isn't an A-list star either. Maybe years and years ago the chart used to move faster, but radio has changed, sales have changed...the whole industry is constantly changing. Nearly a decade ago, some songs could sit on top for 6-8 weeks...now, I'd say we have a pretty good mix of artists and styles and songs spend less time at #1, but there are a lot of artists and a lot of music and so it can take a while for a single to climb. As for the statement that Kellie should be on single #2 by now...what? ??? "Tough" is 12 weeks old on tonight's Billboard chart...if I remember correctly, there are only 3 songs that hit #1 in 12 weeks or less this year. One by Brad Paisley (Old Alabama), one by Blake Shelton (Honey Bee), and one by Kenny Chesney (Somewhere With You). Sorry, but there is no way that a Kellie Pickler single is going to go up as fast as the singles by the biggest stars in country music. Like indulgecountry notes, this is still quite a young song for an artist like Kellie. My guess is that "Tough" won't peak until the holidays or even just after, maybe in January. That's going out roughly 16-20 weeks now...I suppose they could move on before that, but if "Tough" goes top 15 (which I think it could) they'll ride it out for a while...and it could chart 25-30 weeks total or even more.
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Post by McCreerian (Harris 2024!) on Aug 22, 2011 23:56:44 GMT -5
If radio quit playing the same songs once an hour or so during peak times there would be more room for everyone else. Usually when songs get top 5 a good majority of stations play the song 50-60+ times a week. Thats way too much. Play a greater variety of artists! I can't tell you how many songs I love when they first come out and end up hating by the time they peak in the top 5 due to radio overload. For example I used to blast "Old Alabama" when it first came out and by the time it peaked I was turning the station when it came on, and I still skip it on the CD. If radio played more song/artist variety it would maybe only take a listener audience of 25 mil to get a #1 rather than 38 mil+. Then more artists could have their top 5 hits, listeners wouldnt get bored of songs, and the charts would move faster. That way more new acts could break while veteren acts still got their hits in too. Just limit how many times a song could be played! In the 90s with songs spending 1-2 months on the top of the charts several times a year there still seemed to be more variety vs movement. Also we had WAY more women having hits and breaking thru than we do today, Pickler would have had a better shot back then than she does today. Women are the main victims of the chart aptmoshere today. I could name 20 females off the top of my head who were consistent top 10 hitmakers 10-15 years ago compared to today.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2011 0:08:42 GMT -5
^It's always taken a lot of audience to peak, though, and I don't see that changing. Radio is going to play what they want, and I would say most of the time they're going to play the stuff from who's "hot"...the big name artists that most fans are familiar with. I know a lot of people on THIS board really "stan" for women and less-established acts, and I'm not saying that's bad by any means, but I don't think someone like Kellie Pickler or Danny Gokey or Hunter Hayes or Eden's Edge is going to sell out a big stadium like Kenny, Keith, Carrie, etc. do.
The big stars are the big stars because they have the biggest fanbases. It's constantly shifting though. Do I think George Strait will be putting out new music in 10 years? Probably...but I don't think he'll see a lot of radio airplay then. The same could even be said for guys like Kenny Chesney, or a group like Rascal Flatts.
But it takes a lot to change a trend...and so someone like Kellie just has to go up slower. There's no other way...a newer or less-established artist just has to hope for that big break, for their single to slip through the cracks and rise up slowly...and then if they get that big break, they better run with it and not screw up. That's how you start to build a bigger fanbase and move up the chart faster.
And, I actually do think radio plays quite a variety of artists, at least where I live anyway. Could they play even more variety? Absolutely...but there's always a certain balance between new music and "old" music. When a song leaves the chart, it's not going to just suddenly disappear and not get played. So you have a bunch of radio stations that play 80's or 90's country, or stuff from a few years ago, and then a bunch of stations that play only the newest stuff and fit more variety...and then there are stations that are more of a mix of past hits with new songs.
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Post by Black Jesus on Aug 27, 2011 9:37:26 GMT -5
This literally has not moved in weeks. I think it's done.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Aug 27, 2011 9:50:37 GMT -5
This literally has not moved in weeks. I think it's done. Neither has a lot of the chart there's been a log jam, I'm still not all that worried about this, it could still easily climb nicely to peak where most of her singles peaked about 16 or 17. BNA needs a hit from someone other than Kenny Chesney soon. lol
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 27, 2011 11:17:45 GMT -5
This literally has not moved in weeks. I think it's done. Stop worrying. Nothing is wrong with this single's performance at the moment. Sure, I'd like to see it flying up the chart and gaining a new peak every week, but we have to be realistic. With Kellie Pickler, slow and steady is the way to go. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2011 18:27:43 GMT -5
This literally has not moved in weeks. I think it's done. Don't worry. Country radio and Country charts are always interesting to deal with. Kellie's singles never move quickly, so Tough's slow moving isn't much of a surprise. It's not done; it's simply just having the routine Kellie Pickler single run. Wait until the video comes out. We'll see it move some more then. :)
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Post by grayclay on Aug 27, 2011 18:59:48 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, despite the slow mediabase climb, her iTunes sales have been up quite a bit for this song.
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Post by Black Jesus on Aug 29, 2011 19:01:29 GMT -5
Up to #29. Let's hope she doesn't fall back into the 30s again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2011 19:06:35 GMT -5
Up to #29. Let's hope she doesn't fall back into the 30s again. Don't worry. She probably will on tonight's Billboard chart. It still wouldn't worry me, though. It's just because Lady A, The Band Perry, and Alan Jackson probably all got ahead...and I think for sure Lady A and TBP will get ahead on Mediabase this week (I think they're still behind Kellie right now). But a lot of the songs ahead of Kellie can't last much longer. A couple top 10 songs will go recurrent next week, Trace Adkins can't last much longer...Scotty will be leaving in a couple weeks, maybe even Billy Currington. The Eli Young Band probably has a handful of weeks left, but I can't imagine they'll get too far into the top 10. Steve Holy will probably make the top 20, get that album out, and then largely disappear for another 5 years. And David Nail can't last forever, either, as his song has hit the 30-week mark. So, while I think Kellie could be at #32 or so on tonight's BB, there will be room ahead opening up soon, so I wouldn't get too disheartened, Kellie stans! ;)
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Post by Black Jesus on Aug 30, 2011 18:50:52 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, despite the slow mediabase climb, her iTunes sales have been up quite a bit for this song. It's #81 on Country iTunes...
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Post by grayclay on Aug 31, 2011 15:27:04 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, despite the slow mediabase climb, her iTunes sales have been up quite a bit for this song. It's #81 on Country iTunes... Which is a big jump from where she was barely in the Top 200...
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Post by Black Jesus on Sept 5, 2011 10:45:40 GMT -5
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