Uncle Lumpy
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Sept 5, 2011 13:09:04 GMT -5
Has anybody heard about a release date for the album yet?
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Post by Black Jesus on Sept 5, 2011 14:43:39 GMT -5
It needs to be like winter. She needs to have a single that's at least Top 20 so it doesn't bomb in first week sales.
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Post by draggintheriver on Sept 5, 2011 16:50:56 GMT -5
Has anybody heard about a release date for the album yet? Kellie revealed to a fan on Twitter that it will have an October release.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 5, 2011 16:51:28 GMT -5
Has anybody heard about a release date for the album yet? Kellie revealed to a fan on Twitter that it will have an October release. Sweet. I was hoping I wouldn't have to wait too long!
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Post by countrygirl536 on Sept 6, 2011 20:52:38 GMT -5
I read where Kellie stated the album would not be out in October and beyond her control. I think Kellie is caught up with this Sony mess going on. I wouldn't be surprised to hear she was dropped from her contract. Although I love this song better than all the others she has released, it appears that it's not well received by radio. I hope I'm wrong but I think Kellie is in trouble here.
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Post by draggintheriver on Sept 6, 2011 21:02:15 GMT -5
Hypothetically if she were to be dropped by Sony. Would her entire nearly completed album have to be scrapped? Or can she pick up the pieces and move on?
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Sept 6, 2011 21:25:33 GMT -5
Oh no! I hope Kellie hasn't been/doesn't get dropped yet. I was/am looking forward to her album. "Tough" is too good to just barely scrape the top 30. :(
On a more serious note, maybe the Sony dilemma is why this seems to be struggling. Hope everything works out positively for her in the end.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 6, 2011 21:46:05 GMT -5
I really hope that she's fine. I'd be beyond heartbroken if she lost her record label and I didn't get her new album. I'm not too worried though, because I honestly see Kellie Pickler as pretty successful for her label. The majority of her singles were at least Top 20 singles, and both of her albums have sold well compared to her radio history. 'Best Days' also did very well on the digital front from her last album, and was her first Top 10 hit. On top of all that, I feel like this song has a lot of potential... like, Top 10 at least down the road, if they keep working it.
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Post by McCreerian (Harris 2024!) on Sept 6, 2011 22:00:42 GMT -5
I'd be heartbroken too! I've been waiting for this album for a long time! I thought this song would really be her breakout top 10 hit! I don't get why radio just doesn't catch on to her. Whats she not have that Miranda, Taylor, and Carrie does? She can keep up with all of them!
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 7, 2011 1:16:43 GMT -5
If she gets released, then more than likely her album would be scrapped unless the label released her songs.
I honestly can see her being dropped because she doesn't have the success needed. Top 20 really isn't good enough and her songs just seem to take too long to chart. I just really don't think alot of people are too big fans of hers. I know I haven't been since she was on AI. I'm not saying she will get dropped, I just won't be surprised if she does.
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Post by austin on Sept 7, 2011 9:11:57 GMT -5
Either way, everyone said this album was make or break for Kellie, and so far this single is breaking her.
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Post by grayclay on Sept 7, 2011 10:14:09 GMT -5
BNA sure doesn't treat her like she is the future of her label, as they once said. I think her new material is outstanding. It's more authentic than anything I've heard in a long time. It would be a damn shame not to hear the studio versions.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Sept 7, 2011 11:16:45 GMT -5
Come on folks. Are y'all really having this conversation? Why in the world would Kellie be dropped? Both of her records have went gold (or so close its bound to any day now). Shes coming off her most successful single both chart wise (#9) and sales wise (certified platinum). Her current single is already relatively successful (top 30 & still climbing) & is pushing decent digital sales as well. Add to that the label has already confirmed there will be nobody dropped during this merger . If Bradley Gasken is safe ...Kellie is certainly safe.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 19:47:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think there's anything to get all worked up about yet, and I'm not sure there even would be in the future, either.
This song's just gonna have a slow climb up the chart. When there's like, 60 singers with songs out at the same time, it's just a slow climb for anyone not named Lambert, Paisley, Urban, Aldean...there aren't too many in that upper group who can hit the top too quickly.
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Post by countrygirl536 on Sept 7, 2011 20:41:55 GMT -5
Today's Country Aircheck has an Add for Kenny Chesney & Casey James, no Kellie. Usually they have all the BNA artists flashing that has a song out. What could that mean?
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Post by grayclay on Sept 7, 2011 23:11:19 GMT -5
I find this very upsetting. I don't know much about this kind of stuff, but is it possible that they decided to release a different single? Maybe it wasn't taking off like they wanted.
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Post by jessy89 on Sept 8, 2011 18:22:17 GMT -5
I think the labels gonna stick with this single heres a tweet kellie posted about the video!
Watched the 1st edit for my new music video "Tough!" Can't wait for you all to see it. There was so much healing in shooting this one. 8 hours 51 min ago
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Post by .indulgecountry on Sept 8, 2011 18:49:41 GMT -5
Yeah, they haven't gotten the music video out yet, and this is just a typical climb for Kellie Pickler, so I don't see the label releasing a different single. Their best bet would be to just keep working this one. Super excited for the video! I have a feeling its going to be really good. <3
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Post by ClevelandRox on Sept 8, 2011 22:31:08 GMT -5
I heard this for the first time on the radio TWICE yesterday, and came home hoping I'd open country mediabase and it would be at like a +300 and finally taking off. :'( The female DJ was raving about it after the second play though.
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Post by Black Jesus on Sept 9, 2011 6:30:17 GMT -5
-4 bullet They need something. Maybe another adds date?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2011 8:16:14 GMT -5
They need something. Maybe another adds date?Can they even do that?
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Sept 9, 2011 10:00:27 GMT -5
They need something. Maybe another adds date?Can they even do that? Don't think so; a second adds date would make more sense on the pop format and maybe some others, but not country. At least, I don't remember something like that happening. The video's not even out yet, but they need to release it soon before it crashes where it's at. Maybe the beginning of next week would be good enough; anything later wouldn't make sense. I kinda have a bad feeling that she'll need to record a couple of poppier songs and send one of them out in order to return to the top 20 again if "Tough" indeed doesn't catch on. It would be pretty sad too since this sounds poppier or more appealing than I thought it would. If nothing else happens by the end of next week, then I'd say pull this and send something else out, but keep it on the album. It's way too good to serve as just a buzz single.
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Post by Black Jesus on Sept 9, 2011 11:48:27 GMT -5
They should just do another single and then release Tough as the 3rd single again. Hell, not many people have heard it obviously since it peaked at like #29. Shame.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2011 12:17:07 GMT -5
This is not done yet. Goodness...it's down a very small amount in audience this week, but not enough to suggest it's done. For all we know, it could've been the result of just one fewer spin on a big market station or two, or on some syndicated overnight show.
If they are working on a video for this, they're clearly planning on pushing this for a while. Kellie Pickler is not an A-list star so she climbs slowly. I've seen David Nail, Joe Nichols, and even Alan Jackson have negative bullets for brief periods of times, and they're all close to Kellie's position on the chart.
How many times are we going to have the conversation about this song being done, or Kellie not being on her label anymore? If this song starts dropping 400k per night, THEN I'll say it's done, but it's not done yet.
And songs can get 2nd adds dates in country, but it's rare...and usually that only happens for struggling songs that have barely charted or are outside the top 60. Brett Eldredge's current single is the most recent example of a song that got 2 adds dates (June 27 & August 15). There is no way that a top 30 and still slowly climbing song like "Tough" will get a 2nd adds date.
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Post by Black Jesus on Sept 9, 2011 14:04:58 GMT -5
There is no way that a top 30 and still slowly climbing song like "Tough" will get a 2nd adds date. It's been stuck at #30 for at least a month....That's bad even for a KP song.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2011 15:06:53 GMT -5
^And? Alan Jackson, one of the biggest country stars of the last 15-20 years, has been stuck right around the #30 mark as well.
Here's Kellie's chart run on Billboard so far:
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Here's the chart run for Eden's Edge's "Amen", which has been moving slowly as well:
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Alan Jackson:
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Even Justin Moore, who's coming off a #1, has slowed down considerably:
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I could post a lot of other songs...but I think I've made my point. Kellie is going to move slow and people are just going to have to accept that. You've got Lady A, The Band Perry, Jason aldean, and Eric Church all moving up fast, so that means the "lesser" stars move up slow. Kellie's been bulleted for all but one of her weeks, and she'll continue to go upwards a bit. Look at someone like David Nail or Steve Holy...it's taken Steve 35 weeks to crack the top 20, and it'll take David a similar amount...it might take Kellie quite some time as well but probably not 30.
As long as "Tough" can keep adding audience, the chart positions will eventually come.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Sept 9, 2011 15:11:17 GMT -5
All the constant gloom & doom on this page make it almost painful to track this song. Its also a reminder of why I try to steer clear of any thread that involves AI alumni.
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Post by jessy89 on Sept 9, 2011 16:44:14 GMT -5
^And? Alan Jackson, one of the biggest country stars of the last 15-20 years, has been stuck right around the #30 mark as well. Here's Kellie's chart run on Billboard so far: 59-53-47-40-40-33-34-34-33-35-30-30-32-32 Here's the chart run for Eden's Edge's "Amen", which has been moving slowly as well: 60-59-53-50-47-46-45-46-44-40-39-38-37-33-37-36-32-35-36-37-32-33-33-33 Alan Jackson: 53-43-43-42-42-37-35-36-29-31-31-31 Even Justin Moore, who's coming off a #1, has slowed down considerably: 50-44-37-34-34-34 I could post a lot of other songs...but I think I've made my point. Kellie is going to move slow and people are just going to have to accept that. You've got Lady A, The Band Perry, Jason aldean, and Eric Church all moving up fast, so that means the "lesser" stars move up slow. Kellie's been bulleted for all but one of her weeks, and she'll continue to go upwards a bit. Look at someone like David Nail or Steve Holy...it's taken Steve 35 weeks to crack the top 20, and it'll take David a similar amount...it might take Kellie quite some time as well but probably not 30. As long as "Tough" can keep adding audience, the chart positions will eventually come. Thank you for making this point.. This songs fine at this point We will be talking about this song 9 months from now.. which is the way kellie songs work. Im ok with that as long as shes still making music lol
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Post by Black Jesus on Sept 9, 2011 18:34:05 GMT -5
^And? Alan Jackson, one of the biggest country stars of the last 15-20 years, has been stuck right around the #30 mark as well. Here's Kellie's chart run on Billboard so far: 59-53-47-40-40-33-34-34-33-35-30-30-32-32 Here's the chart run for Eden's Edge's "Amen", which has been moving slowly as well: 60-59-53-50-47-46-45-46-44-40-39-38-37-33-37-36-32-35-36-37-32-33-33-33 Alan Jackson: 53-43-43-42-42-37-35-36-29-31-31-31 Even Justin Moore, who's coming off a #1, has slowed down considerably: 50-44-37-34-34-34 I could post a lot of other songs...but I think I've made my point. Kellie is going to move slow and people are just going to have to accept that. You've got Lady A, The Band Perry, Jason aldean, and Eric Church all moving up fast, so that means the "lesser" stars move up slow. Kellie's been bulleted for all but one of her weeks, and she'll continue to go upwards a bit. Look at someone like David Nail or Steve Holy...it's taken Steve 35 weeks to crack the top 20, and it'll take David a similar amount...it might take Kellie quite some time as well but probably not 30. As long as "Tough" can keep adding audience, the chart positions will eventually come. I truly hope you prove me wrong
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Post by rjz on Sept 10, 2011 11:09:39 GMT -5
I think jhomes87 is right; the charts are just painfully slow right now with a lot of songs stuck and/or moving very slowly. Only the A listers are zooming up, like Lady A, Band Perry, Jason, etc, etc.
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