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Post by Arabella21 on Aug 18, 2011 10:40:54 GMT -5
I was thinking IKYW as a first single because it would have appealed to many of the pop fans who liked BHC when it crossed over in 2007 without being seen as "copycat" at all or having to "compromise" herself with a remix (based on her comments I think she sees it that way). And keeping those fans with her would've made CR a much bigger album, maybe not SH big but closer than it ended up. Oh well, like you said, she's still had a very successful career.
Any word on album 4 being out this year? It seems like every Idol and their grandmother is dropping an album this fall.
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Post by cufan7 on Aug 18, 2011 11:04:07 GMT -5
As far as missed opportunities with Carrie's career, I'd agree on "The Night Before (Life Goes On)" not being a 5th single from her first album and not sending "Someday When I Stop Loving You" or "What Can I Say" from her third album to radio and having "Mama's Song" as her 4th single are all missteps. With that said I personally still enjoyed "Mama's Song" but not to the extent I enjoyed the other two (especially "What Can I Say"). "Mama's Song" did make for an amazing video though and documented a huge step in Carrie's life, so it was pleasant.
Not huge on "I Know You Won't". It's great live but it's not the kind of song I, personally, would like to hear on the radio over and over.
With that said I think possibly the biggest missed opportunity is not promoting "Cowboy Casanova" to pop. Didn't need a remix, just promotion. I heard it on the pop radio where I live all the time, and it sounded perfect on the station. It's still one of my favorite songs from Carrie's repertoire as it's such an interesting fuse of different genre's of music.
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Post by desertfloods on Aug 18, 2011 12:57:43 GMT -5
As far as missed opportunities with Carrie's career, I'd agree on "The Night Before (Life Goes On)"....... Not huge on "I Know You Won't". It's great live but it's not the kind of song I, personally, would like to hear on the radio over and over. Agree with these as well. :) I wouldn't have mind one more single for SH era. Hardly ever listened to IKYW tbh. Only interested in her live performances of the song :) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2011 13:12:13 GMT -5
With that said I think possibly the biggest missed opportunity is not promoting "Cowboy Casanova" to pop. Didn't need a remix, just promotion. I heard it on the pop radio where I live all the time, and it sounded perfect on the station. It's still one of my favorite songs from Carrie's repertoire as it's such an interesting fuse of different genre's of music. THIS. I used to think not promoting "Last Name" to pop stations either was a huge mistake, but I now see that that song is really 'too country' for pop radio. But Cowboy Casanova could've been huge. It's definitely country, but it has some pop/rock/dance elements in it that I think could have been huge on other formats. |
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Post by Typo on Aug 18, 2011 14:54:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2011 20:07:48 GMT -5
Wrongfully-unreleased songs from Carrie's catalog:
-What Can I Say? ~ standout track on PO
-Someday When I Stop Loving You ~ second standout track on PO
Both are brilliant, and should've gotten releases. IKYW is flawless, but I couldn't imagine it on radio.
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 18, 2011 22:17:32 GMT -5
"Look At Me" is a standout from Play On as well. It's so pretty. Maybe not a huge single, but it's better than "Mama's Song" and "Undo It." "I Know You Won't" would have been huge, and rightfully so. It would have naturally crossed over to AC too. It's the kind of power ballad I like from her. I prefer her softer ballads like "Someday," but basically, she does no wrong in the ballad front. Uptempo, however...  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2011 22:26:47 GMT -5
"Look At Me" is a standout from Play On as well. It's so pretty. It's gorgeous and one of her finest vocals on the album, but she said from the get-go that she hates performing it live because it's "too mushy" (correct me if I'm wrong about this).  I was really hoping for a performance of it on the tour, but after she said that, it was obvious that she wouldn't perform it, nor would she release it. |
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 18, 2011 22:34:57 GMT -5
I don't understand how she can find "Look at Me" too mushy when she released "All-American Girl" and "Mama's Song" as singles. I think that "Cowboy Casanova" and "Undo It" especially are cheesier than "Look at Me." Oh well. I don't have to understand her reasoning. My complaints aren't gonna change anything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2011 22:37:16 GMT -5
I don't understand how she can find "Look at Me" too mushy when she released "All-American Girl" and "Mama's Song" as singles. I think that "Cowboy Casanova" and "Undo It" especially are cheesier than "Look at Me." Oh well. I don't have to understand her reasoning. I don't see AAG as mushy or cheesy at all. MS, yes. CC and UI are cheesy? ??? |
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 18, 2011 22:42:03 GMT -5
"All-American Girl" is definitely cheesy. Read the lyrics to the bridge. The song is catchy and fun, and the video is one of my favorites from her, but the song is cheesy.
"Cowboy" is cheesy if only because of the "You better run for your life!" bit. I've never been a huge fan of it, but it was the best choice for a lead single. "Undo It" contains the line "You stole my happy." Why is Carrie talking like an LOLCat? Maybe cheesy wasn't the right word. I didn't want to use lame, because I know that lame can be considered a 'fighting' word. They were both good singles even if I wasn't the biggest fan of both songs. I've never cared for many of her uptempo songs save for "Before He Cheats." Her voice is definitely made for ballads.
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Post by Typo on Aug 18, 2011 22:42:52 GMT -5
"Look At Me" is Carrie's only true love song. "Mama's Song" is essentially the Mike Fisher song but it's also masked behind her love for her mother & "All-American Girl" is more autobiographical than anything else. And, Carrie's stated a dozen times that she's not a mushy gushy kinda girl. She's just not here for any of that. So I can definitely understand why she would feel awkward performing something like "Look At Me" in front of an audience.
She did sound amazing on it at the FC party, though:
That cry in her voice. <3
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 18, 2011 22:48:52 GMT -5
You know what, Typo, you're right. I didn't realize it, but "Look At Me" is her only true love song. Perhaps that is why I appreciate it so much. I've always been a love song kind of guy. I'm all about the sentimental and the "real" feeling of a song, so it's only natural for me to be drawn to it. I hadn't realized that Carrie wasn't a super mushy kind of girl. I haven't really followed her career too closely since early 2006. Believe it or not, Carrie Underwood was once my main diva. Is "All-American Girl" autobiographical? The 9513 review made me look too much into that song.  |
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Post by Typo on Aug 18, 2011 22:50:09 GMT -5
Oh. Don't even get me started on that fucking review...
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 18, 2011 22:52:54 GMT -5
Oh. Don't even get me started on that f**king review... I liked The 9513, hell, I even won some CDs from there a couple years ago. I even like Jim Malec. I think he's a good writer. But that review is the definition of looking too much into a cutesy song with a goofy video. |
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Post by Typo on Aug 18, 2011 23:03:11 GMT -5
Yeah, their analysis of "Just A Dream" was cringe-inducing, too. Not even gonna hate, though. I discovered a lot of great music through that site.
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 18, 2011 23:14:32 GMT -5
I remember kind of rolling my eyes on that one. I agreed with them, though, on my main criticism with Carrie. She has an absolutely amazing voice, quote me on that. However, I feel like a lot of her material is beneath her talents. Do a Trisha Yearwood and pick out the best of the best songs. She can definitely make a classic album, it's just getting there. I stand by Play On being her best album. It's got some poppy stuff while not leaving traditional country behind. Her next album should be aimed at getting some more critical acclaim. She'll get radio play no matter what, "Mama's Song" proved that. (I actually like that song. I know that I'm making it out to be this monstrosity of a single, but it's not too bad. It's sweet, but not her best work by far.)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2011 23:15:53 GMT -5
I liked The 9513, hell, I even won some CDs from there a couple years ago. I even like Jim Malec . I think he's a good writer. But that review is the definition of looking too much into a cutesy song with a goofy video. Fixed that up for you. The site itself was great, especially for discovering new music. However, a few of the reviewers analyzed every single syllable to a point where the review didn't even make sense or was tolerable anymore. Not just saying that because most of Carrie's singles were panned on that site, too. And I agree with Typo on the JAD and AAG reviews. Those two were the worst Carrie ever got from them. |
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 18, 2011 23:22:35 GMT -5
Those were probably the worst reviews Carrie has ever gotten period. Anyone that goes to her live shows has a ball. Homegirl is always on vocally and she has a good time, so what's not to love there. Live reviews are always a home run. Album reviews could be better, but she doesn't fail in that department. Most of her singles get decent approval from the blogosphere, save the two aforementioned reviews. There's a difference in a single review and a college level thesis on why "All-American Girl" is a sexist song. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2011 23:29:09 GMT -5
There's a difference in a single review and a college level thesis on why "All-American Girl" is a sexist song. My thoughts exactly. Jim Malec went over and beyond with that one. It was obvious that Carrie was never the darling of The 9513 [that was Miranda Lambert], but it was almost like he went out of his way to try and slight the song. |
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 18, 2011 23:34:46 GMT -5
Miranda is the critically acclaimed country princess. She's talented as hell, but I think that she's a little overrated by the country blog community. Did you read the review for "Dead Flowers"? I seem to believe that one was ridiculous too, but ridiculously positive.
That was an off topic post, and I apologize for it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2011 23:41:39 GMT -5
Miranda is the critically acclaimed country princess. She's talented as hell, but I think that she's a little overrated by the country blog community. Did you read the review for "Dead Flowers"? I seem to believe that one was ridiculous too, but ridiculously positive. That was an off topic post, and I apologize for it. No biggie. And I agree completely. I love Ran to death and I think she's talented as hell, but for goodness sakes they couldn't have lathered her up with compliments any more. Oh, well. Critics only impact so much on a song/album. In other news, TV networks NBC, CBS, and ABC are all competing in major bidding wars to get the airing of the CMAs in November. |
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 18, 2011 23:48:10 GMT -5
Critics do have a lot of impact though. Positive critic buzz can get your far, just look at Sunny Sweeney. If you're universally loved by the critics, it makes the average music fan want to check out your material based on hype. Kind of like Adele with "Rolling in the Deep," actually.
Is Carrie confirmed to be co-hosting again this year?
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Post by desertfloods on Aug 19, 2011 0:00:32 GMT -5
Oh. Don't even get me started on that f**king review... I liked The 9513, hell, I even won some CDs from there a couple years ago. I even like Jim Malec. I think he's a good writer. But that review is the definition of looking too much into a cutesy song with a goofy video. I don't normally bother much about claims that a certain reviewer/site dislike a certain artist. But those JAD and AAG reviews were just.... plain stupid. Hilarious even. Is Carrie confirmed to be co-hosting again this year? Yes! Can't wait  |
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Post by stuffy on Aug 19, 2011 16:22:35 GMT -5
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the time 9513 felt that one negative review just wasn't enough. They for some reason felt the need to post two negative reviews for one song. I can't remember the song, but I want to say it was Cowboy Casanova.
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Post by CarrieUfan on Aug 19, 2011 16:29:50 GMT -5
I've not followed the reviews of 9513, but have they ever given even one positve review for one of her singles or albums? I always read about their reviews being negative so I'm wondering.
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Post by Gravity. on Aug 19, 2011 16:34:53 GMT -5
I think that "So Small" got a good review. I don't remember if "Temporary Home" got a nice review either.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Aug 19, 2011 16:54:26 GMT -5
^ Temporary Home got a negative review as well, if I remember correctly. I seem to recall them even mentioning that if Miranda sang the song, it would still be a bad song, kind of to cushion the anti-Carrie position they seemed to have.
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Post by EPG on Aug 19, 2011 17:08:09 GMT -5
Didn't JAD get a "thumbs up"? I think I remember the reviewer saying that they barely gave it a "thumbs up", but I'm not sure. I loved how they thought that Carrie fans were overreacting when they posted the AAG review. It was just horrid overreaching. |
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Post by CarrieUfan on Aug 19, 2011 17:15:24 GMT -5
Didn't JAD get a "thumbs up"? I think I remember the reviewer saying that they barely gave it a "thumbs up", but I'm not sure. I loved how they thought that Carrie fans were overreacting when they posted the AAG review. It was just horrid overreaching. They basically use the whole review to say the first verse is terrible. At the end they say her voice sounds great. But yeah, it got thumps up. |
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I was really hoping for a performance of it on the tour, but after she said that, it was obvious that she wouldn't perform it, nor would she release it.
