Billboard 200 -6/18/11: Lady Gaga No. 1- 174,000

[jgizzle89]

Jun 8, 2011 19:02:39 GMT -5 @2m said:

Gaga won't be #1 or #2 this year. Something else will pass it

That's very presumptuous of you, 2m. I'm not a huge Gaga fan, but it's very possible that she will sell 2.5-3 million by year's end (assuming she does a re-release). Hell, EOG hasn't even peaked, her album's been out for 2.5 weeks, she certainly has the potential to have a future single blow up, she'll have many more public performances, AND, most importantly, she'll likely have the benefit of the holiday season to help her out.

[halo19]

Yeah, we can't quite tell at the point. When you think about it, she really probably would have sold about 500-600k had that deal not been around. That wouldn't have brought her in the million-plus club, but it wouldn't have made near as abrupt of a drop.

Lots of promotion for BTW at this point seems front-loaded so far. There will need to be more life with "The Edge of Glory" and some time before she goes for single #4, and she'll also have to get back into touring to level off the numbers some. Even if it takes until the end of the year, I think she could reach the 2 million mark with the album.

[Deleted]

If you subtract 100% of the purchases at 99 cents (which would be under the assumption that not a single one of the people who bought the album for 99 cents would have bought it otherwise), the album would have debuted with over 700k. So that would have been the low end if we're guessing how much the album would have sold if it was not available for 99 cents on Amazon.

[gagagigigugu]

not sure why many people really want to see Gaga to flop

personally i think it is a very solid pop dance album

tons of potential hit singles (a sure top 10)

sold for 2 million worldwide for one week is a flop?

and "Judas" is not a flop..it's a "forceful" flop by radio stations

a lot of people recognised it as one of the highlights of the album

[Deleted]

Jun 8, 2011 19:38:52 GMT -5 jgizzle89 said:

Jun 8, 2011 19:02:39 GMT -5 @2m said:

Gaga won't be #1 or #2 this year. Something else will pass it

That's very presumptuous of you, 2m. I'm not a huge Gaga fan, but it's very possible that she will sell 2.5-3 million by year's end (assuming she does a re-release). Hell, EOG hasn't even peaked, her album's been out for 2.5 weeks, she certainly has the potential to have a future single blow up, she'll have many more public performances, AND, most importantly, she'll likely have the benefit of the holiday season to help her out.

The 1.1 million that this opened with is not representative of what it is capable of, based on everything that happened we all know that. It was nearly given away to a half million people

Yes this album could have the long legs that the last one did, early signs suggest otherwise

Holiday season is kinder to albums newly released at the moment rather than albums released earlier in the year

[street]

I don't see the Gaga album performing anything like the last one did. It's already on single #3 for example. Unless there's some major hit on there to be released, I can see this album fading relatively quickly.

[devil]

Jun 8, 2011 19:38:52 GMT -5 jgizzle89 said:

Jun 8, 2011 19:02:39 GMT -5 @2m said:

Gaga won't be #1 or #2 this year. Something else will pass it

That's very presumptuous of you, 2m. I'm not a huge Gaga fan, but it's very possible that she will sell 2.5-3 million by year's end (assuming she does a re-release). Hell, EOG hasn't even peaked, her album's been out for 2.5 weeks, she certainly has the potential to have a future single blow up, she'll have many more public performances, AND, most importantly, she'll likely have the benefit of the holiday season to help her out.

A re-release?! Are you serious? It's June already, if she has to re-release an album before the Xmas sales period (ie after 5 months of release) than that is a pretty damn poor showing on her part.

[KMJ1]

even with the bad 2nd week #s, I still think its sold more than it shouldve as every song from this era has been sub-par and it only did as well as it did cause of her name brand, hype and momentum of the last era. I liked many of the songs from her 1st album, none from this.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jun 8, 2011 22:23:05 GMT -5 KMJ1 said:

even with the bad 2nd week #s, I still think its sold more than it shouldve as every song from this era has been sub-par and it only did as well as it did cause of her name brand, hype and momentum of the last era. I liked many of the songs from her 1st album, none from this.

Hate to break it to you but most pop music does as well as it does because of name brand. Fans of any particular artist will flock to the new release of someone whose last record/singles they loved because of the name attached to it. Of course it's about image, brand and momentum. Don't think for a second that no other pop artist uses that in their favour when it comes time to release their second albums.

[jgizzle89]

Jun 8, 2011 22:08:35 GMT -5 devil said:

Jun 8, 2011 19:38:52 GMT -5 jgizzle89 said:

That's very presumptuous of you, 2m. I'm not a huge Gaga fan, but it's very possible that she will sell 2.5-3 million by year's end (assuming she does a re-release). Hell, EOG hasn't even peaked, her album's been out for 2.5 weeks, she certainly has the potential to have a future single blow up, she'll have many more public performances, AND, most importantly, she'll likely have the benefit of the holiday season to help her out.

A re-release?! Are you serious? It's June already, if she has to re-release an album before the Xmas sales period (ie after 5 months of release) than that is a pretty damn poor showing on her part.

I'm pretty sure Usher did it with RVR. Look, if EOG doesn't get huge, and her next single performs average, it's totally possible to release a 4/5 track "Deluxe Edition" (or whatever b.s. name they like to give re-releases) by December.

[Enigma.]

I love your optimism ;)

BTW is no Bionic, or even Femme Fatale. It's the second best selling album of the year in the US and worldwide already.

And why are you expecting her to beat her own standards with all releases? I'm bringing Madonna into this conversation again, but she's a great pop icon to refer to.. And were ALL Madonna singles controversial masterpieces? No. We're ALL her videos groundbreaking? No. Did her every single release perform better than the previous ones? No. Why do you expect that from Gaga?

And I think it has been pretty obvious all the time that there will be an expanded edition for Christmas shopping season... It's just how the industry works now, it's not desperate or anything.

[sbk]

Ew no re-release with new songs please Maybe a re-release with a DVD with music videos or the HBO Special or something

[HolidayGuy]

It's disappointing when an act throws these deluxe/re-releases out there- it also throws asterisks onto chart feats and all of that. Now, I must say that it's better for the consumer if the act releases new material separate from deluxe versions (like The Fame Monster)- if you're going to do a re-release, that's how ya do it- or should do it.

[areyoureadytojump]

New RIAA certification:

Ke$ha, Cannibal Gold

[Deleted]

Even if Gaga is not #1 or #2, she's pretty much a lock for having one of the five top-selling albums of the year. She will underperform compared to her own previously set standards but no one in his or her right mind is going to look back on this era at the end of the year and call it a flop.

So Cannibal finally got to gold. *smh* RCA didn't handle that mini-era as well as I thought they should have, but considering it only had two singles and not heavy promotion, that's a solid showing.

[applechic]

I knew this was a flop album..the huge drop in sales isn't surprising. I bet Gaga and her team were hoping people would go out and buy the album based on word of mouth and the news that it sold 1M in the first week. Well, no one is falling for it...it is well known by now that the first week sales total was manipulated by giving away free (i.e. 99 cents) CDs. She lost a lot of credibility for promoting this nonsense as the pop album that will change the world.

[badrobot]

Still can't believe these "flop" comments for Gaga. My mind is blown.

If this is a flop, then everyone else has been flopping MUCH HARDER than Gaga.

-17th biggest opening week album sales EVER
-3 top ten hits in just 4 months
-first single debuted at #1 and stayed there for 6 weeks
-first single broke the record for female single debut -- in just 3 days, no less
-#2 album seller for the whole year in just one week

Oy.

[Fat Ass Kelly Price]

1.3 million in two weeks in not a flop in any way, shape, or form. Anyone who says otherwise is pretty much a hater, and I do not throw that word around often.

And without the 99 cent deal, she would've sold at least 850,000 in two weeks. Sounds pretty damn good to me.

[street]

I don't think selling 700-850K albums is anything but great. The issue with BTW is that the album is in the 1+M sold a week category. The 99 cents deal kind of tarnishes that. Then you have the major drop off in the second week ...

Anyway, let's see how the album does from here on. I don't think 2.5-3M is a lock in the slightest.

[Deleted]

It definitely isn't

[Push The Button]

It's not. The Fame contained 6 top 10 singles, constant buzz and huge promotion and it took all of that to reach the 4 million mark.

Selling half of that total, or maybe more, is not so shocking.

[jgizzle89]

Jun 9, 2011 13:29:56 GMT -5 @2m said:

It definitely isn't

I'm not going to search through all the archives, but what was your opinion about Katy Perry's future album sales when Teenage Dream came out? Because, going by the pessimistic (you would argue realistic) view you have of album sustainability, I would image you (or anybody else, for that matter) probably thought it preposterous that Katy's would be at 900k by the end of 2010, and at 1.5 million by now. My point is, holiday sales are often unpredictable and can completely change the which-artists-have-the-top-selling-albums-of-the-year game.

[Honeymoon]

I don't think people are giving Gaga's album a fair chance. It's the album's third week out and many are implying that it's a long shot that this will make even 2.5 million, there's so much more life left in the campaign (EoG exploding at radio and video to come, VMAs, big holiday season, almost-inevitable re-release, Grammy season, massive tour etc etc) You all seem to forget that Gaga and her label are promote-aholics they will not see this album fall by the wayside. It might not be the top album of the year, I'm already calling that for Adele at over 4 million, but it would still be fantastic if this can end the year with 3 million.

[Deleted]

What exactly did I say that was so horrible?

It is not a lock for Gaga to reach 2.5-3M by year end.

Holiday sales btw will impact holiday releases much more than springtime releases.

It is not even a lock that this album will matter much in December.

Then again it could sell 100K-200K per week continuously the rest of the year

Anything is possible.

I am leaning more towards this not having the same longevity as the first Gaga album

[Honeymoon]

Jun 9, 2011 15:47:35 GMT -5 @2m said:

What exactly did I say that was so horrible?

It is not a lock for Gaga to reach 2.5-3M by year end.

Holiday sales btw will impact holiday releases much more than springtime releases.

It is not even a lock that this album will matter much in December.

Then again it could sell 100K-200K per week continuously the rest of the year

Anything is possible.

I am leaning more towards this not having the same longevity as the first Gaga album

This is certainly a fair assessment from what we know I think people had more issue with "this won't be #1 or #2 this year, something will pass it" as fact. But everyone has a right to their opinion :)

[Deleted]

I still believe that too

There will likely be a 2-3 million seller that hasn't been released yet that will pass it.

It would be hard for me to believe that this is the last major album of the year

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jun 9, 2011 13:07:00 GMT -5 applechic said:

I knew this was a flop album..the huge drop in sales isn't surprising. I bet Gaga and her team were hoping people would go out and buy the album based on word of mouth and the news that it sold 1M in the first week. Well, no one is falling for it...it is well known by now that the first week sales total was manipulated by giving away free (i.e. 99 cents) CDs. She lost a lot of credibility for promoting this nonsense as the pop album that will change the world.

And you expect people to take you seriously after this post?

[Kishi KCM]

Yes, please try to discredit GaGa, because in the end, she's still selling!

[pnobelysk]

Jun 9, 2011 13:45:38 GMT -5 Push The Button said:

It's not. The Fame contained 6 top 10 singles, constant buzz and huge promotion and it took all of that to reach the 4 million mark.

Selling half of that total, or maybe more, is not so shocking.

7
the fame:
just dance
poker face
lovegame
paprazzi

monster:
bad romance
telephone
alejandro

all top 10

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jun 9, 2011 13:45:38 GMT -5 Push The Button said:

It's not. The Fame contained 6 top 10 singles, constant buzz and huge promotion and it took all of that to reach the 4 million mark.

Selling half of that total, or maybe more, is not so shocking.

Did both The Fame/Monster (combo) and The Fame Monster sell 4 million?

It's so confusing how both of those were sold separately and together because it's hard to judge different scenarios and such.