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Post by tonytaylor on Aug 31, 2011 19:40:10 GMT -5
No disrespect but the only entity that both Xtina and Maroon 5 should be sending flowers to is The Voice. hahaha, no. "The Voice" was peaking at #8 in July. This chart run is due to radio exposure At least someone has some common sense in here. :) So, million dollar question: Say Levine and Xtina met randomly a few months ago and decided to record a song together, The Voice never existed, and they released MLJ....would it be #1 now? Try and be honest. |
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Post by tonytaylor on Aug 31, 2011 19:41:58 GMT -5
"The Voice" was peaking at #8 in July. This chart run is due to radio exposure And why the sudden upturn in both Maroon 5 and Xtina's radio exposure?  |
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Post by Gabe on Aug 31, 2011 19:42:42 GMT -5
"The Voice" was peaking at #8 in July. This chart run is due to radio exposure And why the sudden upturn in both Maroon 5 and Xtina's radio exposure? 'Cuz the song is actually good. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 19:44:55 GMT -5
hahaha, no. At least someone has some common sense in here. :) So, million dollar question: Say Levine and Xtina met randomly a few months ago and decided to record a song together, The Voice never existed, and they released MLJ....would it be #1 now? Try and be honest. Million dollar response: say Maroon 5 and Christina Aguilera recorded a catchy tune that radio decided to play heavily and "The Voice" never existed. Two well established recording acts recording a radio friendly tune would of course be #1. |
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Post by tonytaylor on Aug 31, 2011 19:45:42 GMT -5
And why the sudden upturn in both Maroon 5 and Xtina's radio exposure? 'Cuz the song is actually good. There are lots of good songs that get absolutely no radio exposure, Maroon 5 and Xtina's recent careers were on a depressing downward spiral but this song suddenly gets radio exposure? Question: hand on heart, are you suggesting The Voice had nothing to do with this song's success? |
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Post by tonytaylor on Aug 31, 2011 19:47:10 GMT -5
So, million dollar question: Say Levine and Xtina met randomly a few months ago and decided to record a song together, The Voice never existed, and they released MLJ....would it be #1 now? Try and be honest. Million dollar response: say Maroon 5 and Christina Aguilera recorded a catchy tune that radio decided to play heavily and "The Voice" never existed. Two well established recording acts recording a radio friendly tune would of course be #1. 2 million dollar question: Are you categorically stating that The Voice played NO PART in the success of this song? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 19:47:42 GMT -5
"The Voice" was peaking at #8 in July. This chart run is due to radio exposure And why the sudden upturn in both Maroon 5 and Xtina's radio exposure? Possibilities include: 'The Voice' results show in early July and TV was just now airing it? Perhaps the song initially tied to "The Voice" is radio friendly?? "The Voice" got it only to #8 so I would choose the second response :o :o |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 19:49:15 GMT -5
Million dollar response: say Maroon 5 and Christina Aguilera recorded a catchy tune that radio decided to play heavily and "The Voice" never existed. Two well established recording acts recording a radio friendly tune would of course be #1. 2 million dollar question: Are you categorically stating that The Voice played NO PART in the success of this song? 2 Million dollar response: The Voice got the song to #8 in July - it is now September, 'The Voice' impact on this song is long gone Radio picked it up and ran with it, exposure on radio (and not a 2 month old episode of The Voice) got it to #1 EDIT: Spell check : a 2 million dollar response should have no typos  |
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Post by tonytaylor on Aug 31, 2011 19:49:56 GMT -5
I'm out, I can't cope with delusion on such a massive scale....
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Post by Eqbk on Aug 31, 2011 19:52:26 GMT -5
That's interesting. I always thought if the name was specifically mentioned, it counted. As the 60s ended, wasn't the name changed to Diana Ross and the Supremes? If you go to Billboard's website, you'll see that they consider Sonny & Cher and Cher as two separate artists. And Cher, the solo artists does not have Sonny & Cher songs listed in her Chart History section. Sonny & Cher: www.billboard.com/#/artist/sonny-cher/chart-history/105881Cher: www.billboard.com/#/artist/cher/chart-history/4278Yes, the Supremes did change their name to Diana Ross & The Supremes but Billboard still counts them as one act. If you go to the Supremes chart history, you'll see that Billboard lists songs that charted as Diana Ross & The Supremes w/ the songs that charted as The Supremes. I don't have an official explanation but it's likely b/c the name change for the group was just formality. Berry Gordy claimed he did it w/ some of his acts b/c he could charge for two acts if instead of one when places booked them but it was still essentially the same act. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 19:57:57 GMT -5
'Cuz the song is actually good. There are lots of good songs that get absolutely no radio exposure, Maroon 5 and Xtina's recent careers were on a depressing downward spiral but this song suddenly gets radio exposure? Question: hand on heart, are you suggesting The Voice had nothing to do with this song's success? The Voice got the song to #8 in July The song had a chart run of 8-23-62 (due the impact of The Voice") Due to the impact of radio the chart run was 61-41-25-8-3-4-1 (when the song was climbing The Voice season had already ended and the impact from the show was gone as it fell to #62) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 20:01:26 GMT -5
That's interesting. I always thought if the name was specifically mentioned, it counted. As the 60s ended, wasn't the name changed to Diana Ross and the Supremes? In 1967 the name was officially changed to Diana Ross & The Supremes. Shortly after that, Florence Ballard left the group. She was replaced by Cindy Birdsong. After Diana left for a solo career in the beginning of 1970, the name reverted back to the Supremes again. |
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Aug 31, 2011 20:04:18 GMT -5
That's interesting. I always thought if the name was specifically mentioned, it counted. As the 60s ended, wasn't the name changed to Diana Ross and the Supremes? If you go to Billboard's website, you'll see that they consider Sonny & Cher and Cher as two separate artists. And Cher, the solo artists does not have Sonny & Cher songs listed in her Chart History section. Sonny & Cher: www.billboard.com/#/artist/sonny-cher/chart-history/105881Cher: www.billboard.com/#/artist/cher/chart-history/4278Yes, the Supremes did change their name to Diana Ross & The Supremes but Billboard still counts them as one act. If you go to the Supremes chart history, you'll see that Billboard lists songs that charted as Diana Ross & The Supremes w/ the songs that charted as The Supremes. I don't have an official explanation but it's likely b/c the name change for the group was just formality. Berry Gordy claimed he did it w/ some of his acts b/c he could charge for two acts if instead of one when places booked them but it was still essentially the same act. Actually, Billboard is not consistent about this. Patti LaBelle and the Bluebelles, Labelle and Patti LaBelle are all listed together: www.billboard.com/artist/patti-labelle/chart-history/5031#/artist/patti-labelle/chart-history/5031 |
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Post by Verisimilitude on Aug 31, 2011 20:20:57 GMT -5
Week Ending Aug. 28, 2011. Songs: Jagger As Icon
Posted 4 minutes ago by Paul Grein in Chart Watch
Though Mick Jagger hasn't topped the Hot 100 in 33 years, he remains an icon. "Moves Like Jagger" by Maroon 5 featuring Christina Aguilera this week becomes the second #1 hit in less than two years that name-checks the rock legend. The first was Ke$ha's "TiK ToK," which spent the first nine weeks of 2010 at #1.
Both references are highly flattering: Jagger was depicted as a hottie in Ke$ha's song and as a classic mover in the Maroon 5 smash. Even so, I suspect he'd trade the flattery for a hit of his own. Jagger hasn't topped the Hot 100 since August 1978, when the Rolling Stones scored with their dance/rock blend, "Miss You." That was the band's eighth #1 hit. They scored their first, "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction," in July 1965.
"Moves Like Jagger" is Maroon 5's second #1 hit, following 2007's "Makes Me Wonder." It's Aguilera's fifth; her first since 2002, when she scored with another collabo, "Lady Marmalade," which she sang with Lil' Kim, Mya and Pink. "Lady Marmalade" was boosted by a movie, Moulin Rouge. "Jagger" owes its popularity to a TV show, NBC's The Voice, on which both singers are judges.
The song is #1 on Hot Digital Songs for the second time in three weeks. It sold 217,000 copies this week, according to Nielsen SoundScan, bringing its 10-week total to 1,326,000. It jumps from #15 to #11 on Top Radio Songs, with 72 million audience impressions, according to Nielsen BDS.
Both Maroon 5 and Aguilera won Grammys for Best New Artist (for 2004 and 1999, respectively). This marks the first time that two former Best New Artist winners have collaborated on a Hot 100 hit, much less a #1. If that doesn't get them booked on the Grammy telecast in February, nothing will.
Adam Levine has a second hit in this week's top 10. Gym Class Heroes' "Stereo Hearts," on which he is featured, jumps from #15 to #10 in its 11th week. Levine went more than four years between top 10 hits, which is a long time in the world of hit-oriented pop music. But now he has two top 10 hits at the same time. When it rains, it pours. This is the second top 10 hit for Gym Class Heroes. "Cupid's Chokehold," featuring Patrick Stump of Fall Out Boy, reached #4 in March 2007.
Billboard's Gary Trust notes that Levine is the first artist in Hot 100 history to hit #1 as part of a group the same week that he enters the top 10 with a side project.
Here's the low-down on this week's top 10 songs.
1. Maroon 5 featuring Christina Aguilera, "Moves Like Jagger." The song jumps from #4 to #1 in its 10th week on the chart. This is its fifth week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #1 (217K).
2. LMFAO featuring Lauren Bennett & GoonRock, "Party Rock Anthem." The former #1 song holds at #2 for the third week following a six-week run at #1. This is its 23rd week on the chart; its 15th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #4 (134K).
3. Foster The People, "Pumped Up Kicks." The song jumps from #7 to #3 in its 18th week on the chart. This is its third week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #2 (194K).
4. Bad Meets Evil featuring Bruno Mars, "Lighters." The song jumps from #6 to #4 (its highest ranking to date) in its 11th week on the chart. This is its fifth week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #6 (128K).
5. Katy Perry, "Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.)." The former #1 song drops to #5 after two weeks on top. This is its 14th week on the chart; its 11th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #14 (85K).
6. Nicki Minaj, "Super Bass." The song dips from #5 to #6 in its 18th week on the chart. This is its 12th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #10 (97K).
7. Lil Wayne, "How To Love." The song jumps from #8 to #7 in its 14th week on the chart. This is its 10th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #12 (92K).
8. OneRepublic, "Good Life," The song jumps from #9 to #8 (matching its highest ranking to date) in its 22nd week on the chart. This is its seventh week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #9 (99K).
9. Pitbull featuring Ne-Yo and Afrojack, "Give Me Everything. The former #1 song rebounds from #11 to #9 in its 22nd week on the chart. This is its 16th week in the top 10. Digital sales rank: #18 (67K).
10. Gym Class Heroes featuring Adam Levine, "Stereo Hearts." The song jumps from #15 to #10 in its 11th week. This is the fifth top 10 hit for Levine; the second for Gym Class Heroes. Digital sales rank: #3 (146K).
Two songs drop out of the top 10 this week. "She Will" by Lil Wayne featuring Drake drops from #3, where it debuted last week, to #17. Digital sales rank: #7 (112K). Britney Spears' "I Wanna Go" drops from #10 to #12. Digital sales rank: #17 (68K). "I Wanna Go" tops the 1 million mark in digital sales this week.
Rihanna's "Cheers (Drinks To That)" leaps from #17 to #11 in its fifth week. The boisterous song has a casual vibe that is perfect for summer. Digital sales rank: #5 (131K).
Current hits by Lady Gaga and Adele streak into the top 20 in the wake of the artists' performances on MTV's Video Music Awards telecast on Sunday night. Gaga's "You And I" vaults from #35 to #16 in its fourth week. Digital sales rank: #8 (109K). Adele's "Someone Like You" leaps from #34 to #19 in its eighth week. Digital sales rank: #19 (64K). This week marks the first time that "Someone Like You" has sold more copies than "Rolling In The Deep." (Adele's "Set Fire To The Rain" re-enters the chart at #92.)
"Otis" by Jay-Z/Kanye West featuring Otis Redding, which has climbed as high as #12, rebounds from #27 to #25 in its sixth week. The song has sold 383K copies in its first seven weeks. Best of all, it has put a spotlight on Redding's classic original recording of "(Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay," which re-enters Hot Digital Songs this week. The original has sold 913,000 digital copies. Redding recorded the song on Nov. 22, 1967, just 18 days before he died in a plane crash. It was released as a single in January 1968 and had shipped 1 million copies by March 11, 1968, when it was certified gold by the RIAA.
Dev's "In The Dark" leaps from #56 to #37 in its fourth week...Alexandra Stans' dance hit "Mr. Saxobeat" jumps from #44 to #38 in its seventh week...The Script's "Nothing" leaps from #73 to #53 in its third week.
Pistol Annies' "Boys From The South" is the top new entry at #55. The country trio features Miranda Lambert, whose solo song "Baggage Claim" jumps from #75 to #69 in its third week. Pistol Annies' album, Hell On Heels, enters The Billboard 200 at #5 this week. You already know that if you read Chart Watch: Albums. If you missed it, here's a link.
Kreayshawn's "Gucci Gucci" jumps from #77 to #66 in its fifth week. This is the first Hot 100 hit for the female rapper, who was a finalist for Best New Artist at the VMA's.
Martina McBride's "I'm Gonna Love You Through It" bows at #77. McBride has been a top country star for nearly 18 years, but she is still looking for her first top 20 hit on the Hot 100. Her highest-charting pop hit to date, 1999's "I Love You," peaked at #24. The new song is from her upcoming album Eleven. (What does the title signify? It's her 11th studio album, contains 11 tracks and is being released on Oct. 11.)
Pop Quiz: McBride is one of only two women to win the Country Music Assn.'s award for Female Vocalist of the Year four times. Who's the other? Answer below.
Matt Nathanson's "Faster" jumps from #93 to #74 in its fifth week...Train's "Save Me, San Francisco" jumps from #78 to #74 in its 10th week. It's the title track of an album that has been out for 21 months...Gavin DeGraw's "Not Over You" jumps from #99 to #76 in its third week. It's vying to become DeGraw's fifth top 30 hit.
"Night Of Your Life" by David Guetta featuring Jennifer Hudson bows at #81. It's from Guetta's fifth studio album, Nothing But The Beat, which is expected to debut in the top 10 next week.
"Martians Vs. Goblins" by the Game featuring Lil Wayne and Tyler, the Creator debuts at #100. This is the second time that Lil Wayne has assisted Game. He was featured on "My Life," which was the biggest hit from Game's 2008 album, LAX. It reached #21 on the Hot 100. Game's new album, The R.E.D. Album, debuts at #1 on The Billboard 200 this week.
Quiz Answer: Reba McEntire is the only other woman (besides Martina McBride) to win the Country Music Assn.'s award for Female Vocalist of the Year four times. (Three women are tied for second place, with three wins each in the category: Loretta Lynn, Tammy Wynette and Carrie Underwood.)
Katy Perry's 2008 hit "Hot N Cold" tops the 5 million mark in digital sales this week. It's Perry's first song to reach that plateau, which is noteworthy for two reasons. She has had six #1 hits on the Hot 100, but this wasn't one of them (it peaked at #3). And she has had several songs that pushed more buttons ("I Kissed A Girl") or loomed larger in pop culture ("California Gurls"). "Hot N Cold" was simply a well-crafted pop song that kept selling and selling.
Eminem's 2002 smash "Lose Yourself" tops the 4 million mark in digital sales this week. Only one other song that is that old has sold that many digital copies: Journey's 1981 smash "Don't Stop Believin'," which is up to 4,715,000. Both are anthems that offer inspiration, which explains their enduring popularity. "Lose Yourself" is Eminem's third song to reach the 4 million mark. It follows "Love The Way You Lie" (featuring Rihanna) and "Not Afraid." Only two other artists, Katy Perry and Lady Gaga, have amassed three or more 4-million sellers as lead artists. Perry has five. Gaga also has three.
"On The Floor" by Jennifer Lopez featuring Pitbull tops the 3 million mark this week. It's J.Lo's first 3 million-selling digital hit (her four #1 hits from 1999-2003 were released prior to the digital era). It's Pitbull's fourth, following his own "Give Me Everything" and hits by Enrique Iglesias and Usher, on which he was featured.
"Motivation" by Kelly Rowland featuring Lil Wayne tops the 1 million mark in digital sales. The song reached #17 on the Hot 100 and was #1 on Hot R&B/Hip Hop Songs for seven weeks...The ebullient "Best Love Song" by T-Pain featuring Chris Brown also tops the 1 million mark. The song reached #33 on the Hot 100.
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Post by Rodze on Aug 31, 2011 20:42:22 GMT -5
"Last Friday Night" is back to being no. 1 on Radio Songs.
Interesting to see it and PRA flip-flopping position, considering the last time it happened was 10 years ago with "I'm Real" and "Fallin'", except back then, only "I'm Real" fell and got back to no. 1.
Edit: Talking more about J.Lo.
"On the Floor" is the 100th song to cross 3 million digital copies (by my accounts).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 20:44:24 GMT -5
Fallin did it too
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Post by Rodze on Aug 31, 2011 20:52:17 GMT -5
Indeed. I started checking from the "wrong date". I didn't go as far back as I should have. Thanks.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Aug 31, 2011 20:58:37 GMT -5
Well, as noted, Paul McCartney solo and his Wings hits are lumped together (the credit sometimes was PM & Wings). Patti LaBelle and LaBelle- I can see that one.
The Supremes should be listed separate from Diana Ross- just like Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5. Plus, the DR & Supremes credit was only for a handful of hits- and then the Supemes had some hits sans DR.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 31, 2011 21:04:31 GMT -5
Million dollar response: say Maroon 5 and Christina Aguilera recorded a catchy tune that radio decided to play heavily and "The Voice" never existed. Two well established recording acts recording a radio friendly tune would of course be #1. 2 million dollar question: Are you categorically stating that The Voice played NO PART in the success of this song? 3 million dollar question: Can anyone actually "truthfully" tell what happens in hypothetical situations? If so, that person could actually be the world's most powerful person with the amazing ability to see many different outcomes to scenarios. |
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Aug 31, 2011 21:11:34 GMT -5
Well, as noted, Paul McCartney solo and his Wings hits are lumped together (the credit sometimes was PM & Wings). Patti LaBelle and LaBelle- I can see that one. The Supremes should be listed separate from Diana Ross- just like Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5. Plus, the DR & Supremes credit was only for a handful of hits- and then the Supemes had some hits sans DR. That doesn't make any sense. Patti LaBelle and the Bluebelles and Diana Ross and the Supremes are both girl groups from the same era. The categorization of the Billboard database is completely arbitrary. |
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Post by Eqbk on Aug 31, 2011 21:35:30 GMT -5
^^^Maybe so but Billboard still goes by that. Diana Ross does not have The Supremes songs included in her chart history. Otherwise, both she and Mariah would share the title of most #1's by a female artist but Billboard only credits Mariah w/ that title.
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Post by Lockheart on Aug 31, 2011 21:43:40 GMT -5
Christina joins a selective group of artist to score #1s in 3 decades
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Post by Rodze on Aug 31, 2011 21:50:14 GMT -5
That doesn't make any sense. Patti LaBelle and the Bluebelles and Diana Ross and the Supremes are both girl groups from the same era. The categorization of the Billboard database is completely arbitrary. It is arbitrary as are every rule for their charts -- it is their charts after all. As I said in this thread before, I think the solo/group/band situation is silly, but we can't do much about it other than make up or own rules. |
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Aug 31, 2011 21:51:20 GMT -5
^^^Maybe so but Billboard still goes by that. Diana Ross does not have The Supremes songs included in her chart history. Otherwise, both she and Mariah would share the title of most #1's by a female artist but Billboard only credits Mariah w/ that title. Billboard is not consistent about any of this. When "A New Day" charted on the Hot 100, Billboard reported that Patti LaBelle had had hits in five decades. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 21:51:39 GMT -5
Christina joins a selective group of artist to score #1s in 3 decades Or put it another way, a group of artists with at least 3 #1's with and 12 years between the 1st #1 and most current #1 |
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Aug 31, 2011 21:52:58 GMT -5
That doesn't make any sense. Patti LaBelle and the Bluebelles and Diana Ross and the Supremes are both girl groups from the same era. The categorization of the Billboard database is completely arbitrary. It is arbitrary as are every rule for their charts -- it is their charts after all. So tell me, what's the rule by which the Bluebelles and the Supremes and treated differently? |
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Post by Rodze on Aug 31, 2011 21:57:24 GMT -5
I don't know. "Ask Billboard"  |
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Post by KMJ1 on Aug 31, 2011 22:47:58 GMT -5
whether or not the Voice helped, MLJ is a very good, super catchy song= 100% worthy of being where its is now. very simple
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Post by ingrownhairdyke on Aug 31, 2011 23:56:43 GMT -5
Star power? if she were at, say, Britney Spears' level of star power, I would agree. But we know that's not the case. :) Even better idea, Luckie. After all, Mick (Rolling Stones) is the only legendary/revered act associated with the track. LMFAO Christina just got paid 3.4 million to perform 4 songs for this millionaire, if that's not star power then I dont know what is. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 0:16:57 GMT -5
If I were a billionaire I'd throw 3.4 million at Kelly Clarkson for four songs; I love her that much. It wouldn't mean Kelly has this amazing star power, it would just make me a stan with WAY too much damn money on my hands. Never mind that I swear I've been hearing that story for like two years now so it's not even all that current to keep bringing it up as 'proof' of anything. Cutting someone a check only fattens her bank account, not star power or CD sales. But I'm genuinely glad for Christina that she has a rich stan with too much money on his hands. Plenty of artists who have had a career slump aren't so fortunate.
Anyway, MLJ is #1 because it's catchy and infectious. M5, Christina, airplay, and/or The Voice exposure did not accomplish that on sheer star power alone, but because of the combination of exposure and the fact that people actually like it, as is the case with any song that hits #1. So no need to act like one thing and one thing only deserves all the credit - or conversely to act like any of those things don't deserve any credit at all. I get excited when I hear it in the car now because I didn't realize that the bass in it was so boomy until I caught it on the way to the store one day...addictive! A kicking bass line is the way to my heart.
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