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Post by lugus15 on Sept 1, 2011 13:43:04 GMT -5
^^That's fun also, not many artists can peak in every position in the Top 10, if I'm not mistaken Madonna has and she even has peaks at like #11-#14, but missing one in there. I'm sure Holidayguy knows. :) Well, GaGa has to peak @ #4,7,8,9 She´s got the (very hard to reach; do some research, only like 2-3 singles per year are able to sell just enough, but not quite to reach this position) #10 peak covered. What are the Madonna's singles/peaks? |
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Post by lugus15 on Sept 1, 2011 13:49:07 GMT -5
Another fun fact is that if All Summer Long by Kid Rock would have gotten released on Itunes, if just for a limited 1 or 2 weeks, it would have been compared to My Heart Will Go On (if I'm not mistaken) which was given a limited number of physical copies, and their sales what was propelled it to #1.
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Post by Arabella21 on Sept 1, 2011 13:56:37 GMT -5
Another fun fact is that if All Summer Long by Kid Rock would have gotten released on Itunes, if just for a limited 1 or 2 weeks, it would have been compared to My Heart Will Go On (if I'm not mistaken) which was given a limited number of physical copies, and their sales what was propelled it to #1. The karaoke version of All Summer Long outpeaking Kid Rock's on the Hot 100 because that was the only one on sale, that was funny. KELLY CLARKSON - Mr. Know It All: 2.479 (+ 1.864) |
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Post by lugus15 on Sept 1, 2011 14:00:29 GMT -5
Another fun fact is that if All Summer Long by Kid Rock would have gotten released on Itunes, if just for a limited 1 or 2 weeks, it would have been compared to My Heart Will Go On (if I'm not mistaken) which was given a limited number of physical copies, and their sales what was propelled it to #1. The karaoke version of All Summer Long outpeaking Kid Rock's on the Hot 100 because that was the only one on sale, that was funny. KELLY CLARKSON - Mr. Know It All: 2.479 (+ 1.864) Another fun fact about that song, is that it may very well be the LAST of smashes that weren't represented in the HOT 100 accurately... a la Don't Speak, Iris, Torn, etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 14:32:07 GMT -5
I doubt "All Summer Long" would've gone number 1, it's airplay peak was when "Disturbia" and "Whatever You Like" were number 1, very hard songs to de-throne
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 14:42:50 GMT -5
Also, random thought:
Hope Cheers (or another Rihanna song) can get 4 weeks @ #1, that way she'll have at least one number 1 song spend:
7 weeks- Umbrella, Love the Way You Lie
6 weeks- Live Your Life
5 weeks- Rude Boy
4 weeks- Cheers ?
3 weeks- SOS
2 weeks- Disturbia
1 week- Take a Bow, Only Girl, What's My Name, S & M
Has any other artist done this before :o
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Post by popstop on Sept 1, 2011 16:10:09 GMT -5
^^That's fun also, not many artists can peak in every position in the Top 10, if I'm not mistaken Madonna has and she even has peaks at like #11-#14, but missing one in there. I'm sure Holidayguy knows. :) I couldn't wait for you, HolidayGuy - sorry. I see that she had at least one song peak for positions #1-#11, nothing for #12 or #13, but she did have one that peaked at #14. She completed the list by hitting #6 with "You'll See." Also, she comes close to have a number one lasting 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 weeks, but doesn't have anything (yet :]) for the five week mark. |
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Post by badrobot on Sept 1, 2011 16:10:40 GMT -5
Madonna's had:
#1 - Music, Take A Bow, This Used to be My Playground, Justify My Love, Vogue, Like A Prayer, Who's That Girl, Open Your Heart, Papa Don't Preach, Live To Tell, Crazy For You, Like A Virgin
#2 - Frozen, I'll Remember, Cherish, Express Yourself, Causing a Commotion, Material Girl
#3 - 4 Minutes, Secret, Erotica, True Blue
#4 - Don't Tell Me, La Isla Bonita, Lucky Star
#5 - Ray of Light, Dress You Up, Angel
#6 - You'll See
#7 - Hung Up, Deeper and Deeper
#8 - Die Another Day, Don't Cry For Me Argentina, Keep It Together
#9 - Rescue Me
#10 - Hanky Panky, Borderline
#11 - The Power of Good-Bye
She peaked at every spot in the top ten once You'll See hit #6, so it took her 12 years (1984-1996) from her first top ten hit (Borderline).
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Post by popstop on Sept 1, 2011 16:15:48 GMT -5
Jinx, barobot, you owe me a pepsi. I don't think I've ever posted the same minute as someone else. :)
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Post by pnobelysk on Sept 1, 2011 16:53:29 GMT -5
"I Will Always Love You" shot 12 to 1, I can't think of any other non-repressed jump to number 1 from outside the top 10 though Edit: yup, did some digging, Whitney was the last person to shoot from outside the top 10 straight to #1, without the aid of repression. So it hasn't happened since 1992.. Also, hadn't realized that only 2 songs (What's My Name & Break Your Heart) have been repressed to get big jumps to #1 since Boom Boom Pow :o ^I think that's more a reflection of labels improving their strategy of radio/iTunes simultaneous release, so instead we've had 4 songs debut at #1 since then (Kesha, Britney twice, Gaga) and some close calls like Katy Perry, Eminem, Rihanna. i thought eminem did pull it off with not afraid? |
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Post by hughster1 on Sept 1, 2011 17:09:19 GMT -5
^Those usually occurred back in the days of "repression" and Idol commercial singles, though (barring a couple of Britney Spears' singles, which had bubbled under the weeks before they entered on top). It would be a little "unusual" for a single that's been on the chart for multiple weeks to just come out of "nowhere" and zip 19-1. But, that's the power of a strong performance on a high-profile show. And interestingly, that's very similar to what it did in England - going from 47 straight to number one following her performance at the Brit Awards. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2011 17:33:18 GMT -5
Apparently the Beatles' "Can't Buy Me Love" jumped 27-1. I don't think "repression" existed then so I'm going to guess that is the biggest jump to #1 that wasn't triggered by repression or street-date violations. Correct. Repression didn't exist in 1964 when the Beatles jumped from 27-1 in their second week on the chart. There were an incredible amount of pre-orders for the Beatles' next new single at the time, and that is was caused CBML's big leap to #1, a record it held for the next 38 years. BTW, two years later, in 1966, the Beatles' made another big jump to #1 with "Paperback Writer" when it leaped from 15-1. |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Sept 1, 2011 17:42:41 GMT -5
Another fun fact is that if All Summer Long by Kid Rock would have gotten released on Itunes, if just for a limited 1 or 2 weeks, it would have been compared to My Heart Will Go On (if I'm not mistaken) which was given a limited number of physical copies, and their sales what was propelled it to #1. Yep. MHWGO - 600,000 copies were pressed just so it could chart; otherwise it would've had same fate as TLYM, which is a shame that it isn't one of CD Top 10 hits. Kid Rock won in the end with boffo CD sales, so he was happy. |
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Post by slicknickshady on Sept 1, 2011 18:34:55 GMT -5
6. BAD MEETS EVIL - Lighters f/Bruno Mars: 103.007 (+ 0.328)
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Post by badrobot on Sept 1, 2011 19:55:47 GMT -5
^I think that's more a reflection of labels improving their strategy of radio/iTunes simultaneous release, so instead we've had 4 songs debut at #1 since then (Kesha, Britney twice, Gaga) and some close calls like Katy Perry, Eminem, Rihanna. i thought eminem did pull it off with not afraid? You're right! So 5 #1 debuts since BBP. I was thinking of LTWYL which debuted at 2. |
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Post by badrobot on Sept 1, 2011 22:08:29 GMT -5
Jinx, barobot, you owe me a pepsi. I don't think I've ever posted the same minute as someone else. :) How about a Diet Coke? :) |
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Post by chartfreak on Sept 1, 2011 22:57:44 GMT -5
Madonna's had: #1 - Music, Take A Bow, This Used to be My Playground, Justify My Love, Vogue, Like A Prayer, Who's That Girl, Open Your Heart, Papa Don't Preach, Live To Tell, Crazy For You, Like A Virgin #2 - Frozen, I'll Remember, Cherish, Express Yourself, Causing a Commotion, Material Girl #3 - 4 Minutes, Secret, Erotica, True Blue #4 - Don't Tell Me, La Isla Bonita, Lucky Star #5 - Ray of Light, Dress You Up, Angel #6 - You'll See #7 - Hung Up, Deeper and Deeper #8 - Die Another Day, Don't Cry For Me Argentina, Keep It Together #9 - Rescue Me #10 - Hanky Panky, Borderline #11 - The Power of Good-Bye She peaked at every spot in the top ten once You'll See hit #6, so it took her 12 years (1984-1996) from her first top ten hit (Borderline). Thanks, was going to do this when I got home and had access to my old Billboard books. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 1, 2011 23:01:44 GMT -5
I'm still pissed about The Power of Goodbye, and Beautiful Stranger, and even American Pie. All could've been top 10's if the chart methodology at the time wasn't so weird, and then she'd have 40 top 10's right now.
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Post by badrobot on Sept 1, 2011 23:16:54 GMT -5
POG lucked out by even making it to #11, it was not bulleted when it peaked the week before the big chart change. I think it's unlikely it would've eked out any top ten time. Beautiful Stranger however would've been a surefire top 5 I think if it had a commercial single.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 1, 2011 23:23:33 GMT -5
"The Power of Good-Bye" peaked at No. 13 in sales and No. 26 on Hot 100 Airplay- so, yeah, a No. 11 peak was "fortunate." The week the new methodology kicked in, it appeared at- I think No. 30 on the Hot 100 (down from 26 on the prior week's test chart); it was No. 45 on the airplay chart (which was a gain of three spots from the prior week's test chart).
"Beautiful Stranger" could have been a No. 1 contender- a regular CD single release apparently was in the works, but plans were canned (the catalog number appeared on the dance chart- if asingle was not planned, it would have read 'PROMO," as was the case with "American Pie"). "American Pie" probably would have been a top 10 or higher contender with a single, But, those are two of those coulda-woulda instances, like exists with other radio-only hits from the late 90s/early 2000s.
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Post by fridayteenage on Sept 2, 2011 1:26:44 GMT -5
I'm surprised that Lighters and Cheers' updates have slowed down so quickly.
MLJ is gaining more and more over Pumped Up Kicks on radio, and is also getting closer to re-overtaking the latter in pop bars. So...MLJ and Someone Like You should be the main #1 contenders for quite awhile. I can't think of any upcoming albums that would have mega-smashes.
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Post by Lozzy on Sept 2, 2011 5:43:41 GMT -5
9/2 airplay updates:[/u] 1. KATY PERRY - Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.): 131.213 (- 0.795) 2. LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem: 125.030 (- 1.192) 3. NICKI MINAJ - Super Bass: 123.788 (- 0.528) 4. LIL WAYNE - How To Love: 106.537 (- 0.336) 5. PITBULL - Give Me Everything f/Ne-Yo: 104.347 (- 1.050) 6. BAD MEETS EVIL - Lighters f/Bruno Mars: 104.188 (+ 1.181)7. BRITNEY SPEARS - I Wanna Go: 101.059 (- 0.255) 8. ONEREPUBLIC - Good Life: 88.368 (- 0.703) 9. ADELE - Rolling In The Deep: 84.541 (- 1.031) 10. MAROON 5 F/CHRISTINA AGUILERA - Moves Like Jagger: 78.381 (+ 2.677) ▲11. HOT CHELLE RAE - Tonight Tonight: 76.217 (- 0.330) ▼ 12. THE BAND PERRY - If I Die Young: 73.181 (+ 0.447) 13. DJ KHALED - I'm On One f/Drake, Rick Ross: 71.305 (+ 0.278) 14. FOSTER THE PEOPLE - Pumped Up Kicks: 66.613 (+ 1.972) ▲15. KELLY ROWLAND - Motivation f/Lil Wayne: 64.094 (- 0.587) 16. LADY GAGA - The Edge Of Glory: 62.914 (- 1.768) ▼ 17. RIHANNA - Cheers (Drink To That): 56.356 (+ 0.561) 18. BRAD PAISLEY/CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Remind Me: 53.002 (+ 0.188) 19. JAKE OWEN - Barefoot Blue Jean Night: 52.065 (+ 0.102) 20. BEYONCE - Best Thing I Never Had: 49.208 (- 0.194) BLACK EYED PEAS - Just Can't Get Enough: 45.368 (- 1.046) JAY Z & KANYE WEST - Otis: 45.342 (+ 0.400) RODNEY ATKINS - Take A Back Road: 44.700 (+ 0.663) GYM CLASS HEROES - Stereo Hearts f/Adam Levine: 43.642 (+ 1.578)COBRA STARSHIP - You Make Me Feel... f/Sabi: 43.447 (+ 0.579) TOBY KEITH - Made In America: 42.987 (+ 0.855) DEV - In The Dark: 38.261 (+ 0.723) BIG SEAN - Marvin & Chardonnay: 35.924 (+ 0.664) LADY GAGA - You And I: 36.114 (+ 1.749)
ADELE - Someone Like You: 32.772 (+ 2.441)[/color] MIGUEL - Quickie: 32.351 (- 0.098) DRAKE - Headlines: 30.578 (+ 0.819) COLDPLAY - Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall: 29.870 (- 1.046) MIRANDA LAMBERT - Baggage Claim: 26.333 (+ 0.352) TAYLOR SWIFT - Sparks Fly: 25.082 (+ 0.227) ALEXANDRA STAN - Mr. Saxobeat: 24.901 (+ 0.540) THE SCRIPT - Nothing: 22.777 (+ 0.233) RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS - Adventures Of Rain Dance...: 20.647 (- 0.030) BLINK 182 - Up All Night: 6.843 (+ 0.018) EVANESCENCE - What You Want: 4.134 (+ 0.089) KELLY CLARKSON - Mr. Know It All: 3.598 (+ 1.119)[Source]
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Post by tonytaylor on Sept 2, 2011 6:04:04 GMT -5
Huge updates for both Adele and Maroon 5/Xtina.
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Post by slw84 on Sept 2, 2011 7:00:35 GMT -5
"The Power of Good-Bye" peaked at No. 13 in sales and No. 26 on Hot 100 Airplay- so, yeah, a No. 11 peak was "fortunate." The week the new methodology kicked in, it appeared at- I think No. 30 on the Hot 100 (down from 26 on the prior week's test chart); it was No. 45 on the airplay chart (which was a gain of three spots from the prior week's test chart). "Beautiful Stranger" could have been a No. 1 contender- a regular CD single release apparently was in the works, but plans were canned (the catalog number appeared on the dance chart- if asingle was not planned, it would have read 'PROMO," as was the case with "American Pie"). "American Pie" probably would have been a top 10 or higher contender with a single, But, those are two of those coulda-woulda instances, like exists with other radio-only hits from the late 90s/early 2000s. Didn't American Pie peak within the first month of charting? I remember seeing it surge and then drop and didn't understand why...at this point I wasn't all too familiar about the methodology of billboard. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 2, 2011 9:07:49 GMT -5
^"American Pie" was bulleted in its 6th week on Hot 100 Airplay- but then dropped thereafter. It obviously didn't fare well with listeners and such. But, had a single been released around the time of its peak, that should have been enough to get it into the top 10, at the least (as it was No. 25* in airplay in its 6th week- it had ranked 23* two weeks prior). Fred Bronson talked about it in the Chart Beat column that week, talking about how it was No. 1 in the UK and that anyone in the USA who wanted it couldn't buy it as a single.
Great gain for "Someone Like You"- it's now the biggest gainer on the 7-day-rolling Hot AC chart, and has soared to a +1,204 at pop.
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Sept 2, 2011 10:22:45 GMT -5
MORE MEDIABASE
02/09/2011 Update
KEITH URBAN -Long Hot Summer= 40.838 (+0.325)
TRACE ADKINS -Just Fishin'= 37.546 (-0.096)
DRAKE -Marvin's Room= 32.106 (+0.865)
BILLY CURRINGTON -Love Done Gone= 30.445 (-0.037)
BLAKE SHELTON -God Gave Me You= 30.086 (+0.104)
AFROJACK -Take Over Control f/Eva Simons= 25.966 (+0.159)
SCOTTY MCCREERY - I Love You This Big = 24.801 (-1.273)
LIL WAYNE -She Will f/Drake= 24.393 (+0.885)
IYAZ -Pretty Girls= 24.032 (+0.721)
THOMPSON SQUARE -I Got You= 23.910 (+0.208)
ANDY GRAMMER - Keep Your Head Up= 23.694 (-0.122)
FOO FIGHTERS - Walk= 18.624 (-0.042)
NEW BOYZ -Better With The Lights Off= 18.443 (+0.369)
WALE - That Way f/Jeremih & Rick Ross= 16.864 (+0.435)
CHRIS BROWN -Wet The Bed= 16.704 (+0.448)
RASCAL FLATTS -Easy= 14.668 (+0.134)
TYGA -Far Away f/Chris Richardson= 13.354 (+0.267)
ACE HOOD -Body 2 Body f/Chris Brown= 12.535 (+0.126)
JASON DERULO -It Girl= 12.491 (+0.626)
MATT NATHANSON -Faster= 12.286 (+0.137)
KREAYSHAWN -Gucci Gucci= 11.936 (+0.411)
DAVID GUETTA -Without You f/Usher= 10.556 (+0.936)
LADY ANTEBELLUM -We Owned The Night= 10.251 (+0.699)
MONICA -Anything f/Rick Ross & Lil Kim= 10.123 (-0.001)
WIZ KHALIFA -No Sleep= 10.123 (+ 0.105)
THE BAND PERRY - All Your Life= 9.939 (+0.514)
LLOYD -Dedication To My Ex...= 9.700 (+0.193)
J. COLE -Workout= 9.570 (+0.139)
JAY Z & KANYE WEST - N***** In Paris= 8.761 (+0.760)
CHRISTINA PERRI -Arms= 8.690 (+0.164)
MARSHA AMBROSIUS -Late Nights & Early Mornings= 8.006 (-0.344)
BUSH - The Sound Of Winter= 7.527 (+0.177)
KELLIE PICKLER -Tough= 7.276 (+0.119)
COLBIE CAILLAT -Brighter Than The Sun= 7.038 (+0.284)
SEAN PAUL -Got 2 Luv U f/Alexis Jordan= 6.953 (+0.073)
GAVIN DEGRAW - Not Over You = 6.742 (+0.106)
SWEDISH HOUSE MAFIA-Save The World= 5.743 (+0.110)
NICKI MINAJ -Fly f/Rihanna= 5.645 (+0.660)
LMFAO -Sexy And I Know It= 4.916 (+0.477)
JASON ALDEAN - Tattoos On This Town= 4.906 (+0.205)
KELLY ROWLAND -Lay It On Me f/Big Sean= 4.819 (+0.180)
DEMI LOVATO - Skyscraper = 4.386 (-0.125)
BEYONCE - Party f/Kanye & Andre= 4.266 (+0.059)
TYRESE -Too Easy f/Ludacris= 3.859 (+0.180)
MICHELLE BRANCH -Loud Music= 3.468 (-0.017)
TYRESE - Stay= 3.350 (-0.016)
JANE'S ADDICTION -Irresistible Force= 3.344 (-0.009)
MARTINA MCBRIDE -I'm Gonna Love You Through It= 3.158 (+0.219)
NAYER -Suave (Kiss Me) f/Mohombi= 2.971 (+0.001)
INCUBUS -Promises, Promises= 2.247 (+0.138)
FRANK OCEAN -Swim Good= 2.246 (+0.087)
SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE -Love You Like A Love Song= 2.195 (+0.096)
FOSTER THE PEOPLE - Helena Beat= 2.093 (+0.055)
MELANIE FIONA -4 AM= 1.994 (+0.222)
LENNY KRAVITZ -Stand= 1.819 (-0.049)
MARY J. BLIGE -25/8= 1.536 (+0.184)
SKYLAR GRAY - Invisible = 1.296 (+0.033)
SIMPLE PLAN -Jet Lag f/Natasha Bedingfield= 1.127 (+0.066)
LIL JON -Drinks f/LMFAO= 1.074 (+0.013)
FLORENCE + THE MACHINE - What The Water Gave Me= 0.950 (+0.117)
LUKE BRYAN -I Don’t Want This Night To End= 0.919 (+0.182)
BEYONCE -Love On Top= 0.836 (+0.178)
SNOW PATROL -Called Out In The Dark= 0.835 (+0.066)
FEIST -How Come You Never Go There= 0.834 (+0.034)
KAT DELUNA -Drop It Low= 0.785
CASEY JAMES-Let's Don't Call It A Night= 0.602 (-0.022)
SCOTTY MCCREERY -The Trouble With Girls= 0.365 (+0.118)
FLO RIDA -Good Feelin'= 0.288 (+0.076)
JESSIE J -Domino= 0.177 (+0.035)
JOJO - Disaster= 0.120 (+0.004)
NICOLE SCHERZINGER -Don't Hold Your Breath= 0.058 (+0.002)
JAY Z & KANYE WEST -Why I Love You f/Mr. Hudson= 0.052
LEONA LEWIS -Collide= 0.047 (+0.007)
CSS (CANSEI DE SER SEXY) -Hits Me Like A Rock= 0.029 (=)
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 2, 2011 10:56:17 GMT -5
looks like Maroon 5 might be the next #1 on airplay? Nothing else is even close, besides Lighters, but I dunno about that one. And it looks like Katy has a lock for a 6th week at #1. Can she get a 7th?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2011 11:08:19 GMT -5
^"American Pie" was bulleted in its 6th week on Hot 100 Airplay- but then dropped thereafter. It obviously didn't fare well with listeners and such. But, had a single been released around the time of its peak, that should have been enough to get it into the top 10, at the least (as it was No. 25* in airplay in its 6th week- it had ranked 23* two weeks prior). Fred Bronson talked about it in the Chart Beat column that week, talking about how it was No. 1 in the UK and that anyone in the USA who wanted it couldn't buy it as a single. Great gain for "Someone Like You"- it's now the biggest gainer on the 7-day-rolling Hot AC chart, and has soared to a +1,204 at po p. American pie's problem was that it was never intended to be a dance song. it isn't identified as such by most. Likely why it failed. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Sept 2, 2011 11:32:53 GMT -5
^"American Pie" was bulleted in its 6th week on Hot 100 Airplay- but then dropped thereafter. It obviously didn't fare well with listeners and such. But, had a single been released around the time of its peak, that should have been enough to get it into the top 10, at the least (as it was No. 25* in airplay in its 6th week- it had ranked 23* two weeks prior). Fred Bronson talked about it in the Chart Beat column that week, talking about how it was No. 1 in the UK and that anyone in the USA who wanted it couldn't buy it as a single. Great gain for "Someone Like You"- it's now the biggest gainer on the 7-day-rolling Hot AC chart, and has soared to a +1,204 at pop. It was a similar situation with GTIG by Janet and Go Deep by Janet. The record company elected not to release these songs as commercially available singles and therefore Janet can count them among her Top 10 singles as a result. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Sept 2, 2011 11:45:04 GMT -5
^You mean, cannot count them. :) Like other "diva" hits that did not have CD singles, they likely would have cracked top 10 with a CD single, but neither of those tracks were pop smashes like some of Janet's other singles- they peaked at Nos. 36 and 28, respectively, on Hot 100 Airplay. GTIG did very well at urban radio, but urban was not part of the Hot 100 Airplay panel at that time.
2m- that could be part of the reason for its quick peak and drop in the USA (as well as the "outrage" at the cuts and whatnot), but it did pretty well outside the USA. The track itself is hardly an essential part of the Madonna catalog.
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