Gloriana - "(Kissed You) Goodnight"

[Zazie]

We aren't going to know Gloriana's fate for a day or possibly two. Just as the posts above jumped the gun in claiming the song would be #1, now the posts are being too pessimistic.

I think there's a scenario in which Blake Shelton is #1 on the first Sept BB chart, and maybe that's even the most likely result, but we don't know yet.

[layne]

Aug 13, 2012 18:13:35 GMT -5 Zazie said:

We aren't going to know Gloriana's fate for a day or possibly two. Just as the posts above jumped the gun in claiming the song would be #1, now the posts are being too pessimistic.

I think there's a scenario in which Blake Shelton is #1 on the first Sept BB chart, and maybe that's even the most likely result, but we don't know yet.

If they weren't able to hold off "Angel Eyes" it seems unlikely they can hold off Blake Shelton. It made more sense to me that they would have gotten #1 last week and then Love and Theft this week. The fact that Radio didn't give them maximum spins last week kinda indicates this song has reached it's peak. I'm no chart expert though. :)

[rsmatto]

Aug 13, 2012 19:42:21 GMT -5 layne said:

Aug 13, 2012 18:13:35 GMT -5 Zazie said:

We aren't going to know Gloriana's fate for a day or possibly two. Just as the posts above jumped the gun in claiming the song would be #1, now the posts are being too pessimistic.

I think there's a scenario in which Blake Shelton is #1 on the first Sept BB chart, and maybe that's even the most likely result, but we don't know yet.

If they weren't able to hold off "Angel Eyes" it seems unlikely they can hold off Blake Shelton. It made more sense to me that they would have gotten #1 last week and then Love and Theft this week. The fact that Radio didn't give them maximum spins last week kinda indicates this song has reached it's peak. I'm no chart expert though. :)

"Angel Eyes" was higher LAST WEEK on the charts so why can't they get the #1 for NEXT week after LnT have the #1 THIS week?

[joey2002]

^ I don't think they would have a problem passing Love & Theft... but I have a feeling Blake will jump over them by the end of the week. We'll have to wait a few days to see what happens though, as Zazie said above.

[layne]

Aug 13, 2012 19:45:07 GMT -5 rsmatto said:

Aug 13, 2012 19:42:21 GMT -5 layne said:

If they weren't able to hold off "Angel Eyes" it seems unlikely they can hold off Blake Shelton. It made more sense to me that they would have gotten #1 last week and then Love and Theft this week. The fact that Radio didn't give them maximum spins last week kinda indicates this song has reached it's peak. I'm no chart expert though. :)

"Angel Eyes" was higher LAST WEEK on the charts so why can't they get the #1 for NEXT week after LnT have the #1 THIS week?

Actually Gloriana was #1 on Wednesday and unable to "HOLD" the #1.

[Cody Wants Out...]

I'm saddened to hear that this may not be able to make it to #1 after all. Could it maybe slide into the top position next week by losing less than L&T next week (if they do starting losing AI this week)?

[jlatn5b]

The ad they put in tonight's Country Aircheck makes me believe they know they've peaked at #2. It thanks country radio "for an amazing ride" and congratulates Love & Theft. No mention of powering up for #1 next week. Sounds like they've thrown in the towel to me.

[layne]

Aug 13, 2012 22:31:01 GMT -5 jlatn5b said:

The ad they put in tonight's Country Aircheck makes me believe they know they've peaked at #2. It thanks country radio "for an amazing ride" and congratulates Love & Theft. No mention of powering up for #1 next week. Sounds like they've thrown in the towel to me.

Agree. Warner is now pushing the Blake Shelton Song.

[Deleted]

Yeah, it looks like this is done. I'm expecting both them and L&T to drop tomorrow with Blake having an easy route to #1 before LBT takes a few weeks.

The thing is, I do like this song and also "Angel Eyes" but I hate how slow the chart is moving. What would 1 more week have been, I guess? Gloriana and Blake are labelmates so I would've thought they would still try to get Gloriana their first #1 because that's a big deal. Anyway, I don't think this one's #2 peak is a result of its sound or anything like that. It just didn't have a window, unfortunately. Love & Theft's song had come on a little stronger and this time, the revolving door only let 1 through, since Kenny was strong at the top for the last couple of weeks. This happened to Jason (Tattoos), Lady A (Dancin...), and ZBB (No Hurry). More often than not, these types of chart runs have lately ended with a #1 hit but this one's window just wasn't big enough.

[joey2002]

It just seemed like this never had enough firepower in it to make a strong enough final push. They weren't having those huge daily gains in the last few weeks/months like Love & Theft and the other competing songs around them. #2 peaks are rare these days, but it's still a very big feat.

[bigbluenote]

This is one of the better top 5 hits in quite some time. It took me a while, but I really like this song. Considering buying it on iTunes.

[lesingleton]

They definitely know they've peaked because I saw Tom and Mike out last night with some radio folks and friends celebrating their #2 song. Tom kept saying he wished they could've made it to #1 but he was ecstatic about #2.

[joey2002]

Aug 14, 2012 12:41:19 GMT -5 lesingleton said:

They definitely know they've peaked because I saw Tom and Mike out last night with some radio folks and friends celebrating their #2 song. Tom kept saying he wished they could've made it to #1 but he was ecstatic about #2.

Yeah, and they've lost audience the past few days... I think we can say that this has peaked.

[Deleted]

This song will be treated almost as if it was a #1 song anyway, at least in regards to the airplay it'll get over the years. It peaked with just shy of 37 million on Billboard last night, which 98% of the time, is good enough for a #1 hit. Some songs even hit #1 with 35-36 million. So I don't think it's that they couldn't find the right audience gains, or big enough gains, over the last few weeks. They've been very steady and did pretty darn good. They were just up against a blockbuster superstar release from Chesney and another old song (Angel Eyes) that was just a tad bit hotter here at the end. That's all it was...just too much competition and Gloriana didn't have the right timing there at the end, to find a 'window' to make this a #1.

[yolo]

Aug 14, 2012 14:26:15 GMT -5 jhomes87 said:

This song will be treated almost as if it was a #1 song anyway, at least in regards to the airplay it'll get over the years. It peaked with just shy of 37 million on Billboard last night, which 98% of the time, is good enough for a #1 hit. Some songs even hit #1 with 35-36 million. So I don't think it's that they couldn't find the right audience gains, or big enough gains, over the last few weeks. They've been very steady and did pretty darn good. They were just up against a blockbuster superstar release from Chesney and another old song (Angel Eyes) that was just a tad bit hotter here at the end. That's all it was...just too much competition and Gloriana didn't have the right timing there at the end, to find a 'window' to make this a #1.

Not sure what you mean by the right timing at the end? Both songs were neck and neck with very few points and audience seperating them early in the week. It just boils down to PD's deciding that the other song was more worthy of #1. I guess they liked it better. Angel Eyes hasn't sold more and has been on the charts for about the same time. It's odd to me that a few weeks before that radio allowed both Brantley Gilbert and the EYB to both have #1 songs but didn't give these two Artists the same treatment.

[Deleted]

Aug 14, 2012 14:35:52 GMT -5 yolo said:

Aug 14, 2012 14:26:15 GMT -5 jhomes87 said:

This song will be treated almost as if it was a #1 song anyway, at least in regards to the airplay it'll get over the years. It peaked with just shy of 37 million on Billboard last night, which 98% of the time, is good enough for a #1 hit. Some songs even hit #1 with 35-36 million. So I don't think it's that they couldn't find the right audience gains, or big enough gains, over the last few weeks. They've been very steady and did pretty darn good. They were just up against a blockbuster superstar release from Chesney and another old song (Angel Eyes) that was just a tad bit hotter here at the end. That's all it was...just too much competition and Gloriana didn't have the right timing there at the end, to find a 'window' to make this a #1.

Not sure what you mean by the right timing at the end? Both songs were neck and neck with very few points and audience seperating them early in the week. It just boils down to PD's deciding that the other song was more worthy of #1. I guess they liked it better. Angel Eyes hasn't sold more and has been on the charts for about the same time. It's odd to me that a few weeks before that radio allowed both Brantley Gilbert and the EYB to both have #1 songs but didn't give these two Artists the same treatment.

You kinda answered what I meant by timing in your last sentence. There was enough time for both Brantley and the EYB to hit #1, plus they are under the same label umbrella so that helps.

My meaning is that, had these 2 songs been spaced a little farther apart on the chart, both would've probably hit #1. There just wasn't room--not enough time/weeks--for both of these songs to hit #1. Because again, the Gloriana song has as much audience now as most #1 songs do. I don't really think it was PD's saying they liked one more than the other, because really, it boils down to just a few spins here and there and there are so many stations out there that don't really know how the week will shape up and they can't know what other stations are doing. And it could be that the RCA promo team just had a little bit more to work with at the end here, since the Warner Bros. team had been holding Gloriana up at a higher audience level a bit longer than the Love & Theft song.

If sales were incorporated into it, Gloriana would've definitely won the battle, as their single and album have sold a good bit more. But it just didn't turn out that way on the airplay chart.

Most of the time lately, there's a lot of competition in the top 10 but the songs typically take their turns at #1. Here, though, you had 2 songs essentially going for 1 opening, since no one was gonna beat Kenny, Blake likely won't miss the top spot, and then after him it will definitely be LBT at #1 for a couple of weeks. Today's update does look like Love & Theft might climb a bit more but I think they'll level out in the next day or two and I can see Blake catching them by the end of the week. The gap on Mediabase might be 4.5 million, but Mediabase doesn't go by audience. On Billboard last night, Blake trailed Love & Theft by about 3.5 million, which is still a decent gap, but Blake's got "going for #1 ads" out and all he'd really need is a 2.0-2.5 million gain or so, to probably threaten Love & Theft, since I do think they'll be coming down in the coming days and certainly as we end the week.

[yolo]

^Actually Brantley's song was running out of gas the week before. It's tough to say the timing was good for both when one song is clearly losing spins and audience and then boom it gets to have it's turn at #1. It's manipulation. I would also argue the Blake Shelton song is the worst song of the above 3 mentioned and if all was fair, he would miss #1.

[Deleted]

Aug 14, 2012 14:59:22 GMT -5 yolo said:

^Actually Brantley's song was running out of gas the week before. It's tough to say the timing was good for both when one song is clearly losing spins and audience and then boom it gets to have it's turn at #1. It's manipulation. I would also argue the Blake Shelton song is the worst song of the above 3 mentioned and if all was fair, he would miss #1.

Oh, I agree with much of this here but just don't forget that in the Brantley/EYB situation, they weren't really going against each other. It certainly looked to me like the EYB would get both those weeks at #1, with Brantley stuck to a #2 or even #3 peak (I liked his song well enough but its natural peak was not #1). But both Valory (Brantley's label) and Republic (EYB's label) are part of the Big Machine Label Group and so it was a lot easier for both of them to get #1. There were 2 weeks up for grabs, essentially, between the big runs of Eric's "Springsteen"/Luke's "Drunk On You" and then Dierks' "5-1-5-0"/Kenny's "Come Over".

And it certainly seems that the EYB got held back a bit, to let Brantley go up first. I guess you gotta hand it to Big Machine/Valory, that they were able to keep his wheels spinning for so long when he was held there at #3 by the blockbusters ahead of him. And then they found that last 'push' to get him there, knowing that the EYB song still had more life left in it and would have an available window to the top before Dierks or Kenny could catch them.

In this case, Gloriana and Love & Theft are on separate labels, and both of them determined, after Kenny got 2 solid weeks at the top, that this week was their best shot. Maybe Gloriana could've still hung in there but Warner Bros. has gotta get behind Blake's song a bit for that last little stretch so he can hit #1 before Little Big Town catches him. I do like a lot of Blake's past music but I agree, I am not a fan of "Over" at all and I think Blake needs to really change things up and record music that's more in line with his personality for his next studio album. Because he doesn't need to cut generic singles like those from Red River Blue. He needs more stuff like "She Wouldn't Be Gone" or "Who Are You When I'm Not Looking", or the unreleased duet "Draggin' The River" between him and Miranda. Those are just some examples of stronger songs that I feel Blake can pull off better and are more suited for him. He's a huge radio star now so I don't see the need to play it safe with single releases. Kenny has figured that out, with releases like "You And Tequila" and now "El Cerrito Place"...I think Blake needs grittier material and just to push his artistic development some more.

Whoops, guess I totally just diverted away from the Gloriana song now. I really hope "Gold Rush" is a single soon, but if they do go with "Can't Shake You" next, I think that will work pretty well also. "Gold Rush", though, is the best song on the album and a great uptempo, at least in my opinion, so I really hope it's a future single.

[yolo]

It really looks like there were 2 weeks up for grabs here as well. If Angel Eyes doesn't start falling they are going to get a second week.

I haven't listened to the Gloriana Album and have only heard Can't Shake You. I like it pretty well.

[Deleted]

Aug 14, 2012 16:28:07 GMT -5 yolo said:

It really looks like there were 2 weeks up for grabs here as well. If Angel Eyes doesn't start falling they are going to get a second week.

Possibly. But I don't think it will. ;)

The ads in last night's BCU and CAW issues clearly indicate that Warner Bros. is hoping to get Blake to #1 by the end of the week. Now, maybe you will be right and Love & Theft will hang on for a 2nd week, but I'm just not feeling it. We'll know for sure in a few days, though.

[Zazie]

Aug 14, 2012 17:19:11 GMT -5 jhomes87 said:

Aug 14, 2012 16:28:07 GMT -5 yolo said:

It really looks like there were 2 weeks up for grabs here as well. If Angel Eyes doesn't start falling they are going to get a second week.

Possibly. But I don't think it will. ;)

The ads in last night's BCU and CAW issues clearly indicate that Warner Bros. is hoping to get Blake to #1 by the end of the week. Now, maybe you will be right and Love & Theft will hang on for a 2nd week, but I'm just not feeling it. We'll know for sure in a few days, though.

My guess is the same as yours -- I think Blake will be #1 by week's end. And then it's possible that Blake's the one who gets a second week on top. Pontoon has slowed down and is quite far behind Over. That's not the way I'd like it to work out, because I think Blake's so overplayed and this song is pretty weak, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened this way. I'll root for Pontoon to keep this from happening.

[Deleted]

^I am still thinking that Blake can hit #1 by the end of the week as well, but he has some work to do. Only 100k gained today, and that won't get it done for him. L&T, meanwhile, is helping out by dropping 340k today, and Gloriana is down 1.2 million.

I'd definitely like to see LBT hold Blake to just a week at the top as well. Hopefully that one starts to motorboat up the chart again later this week and into next week, keeping Blake close so he doesn't get any crazy ideas about going for a 2nd week on top.

[Fanofctrymusic]

I don't want Blake to have a second week so he can release a new single quick & sing it at my next show.