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Post by shoocoochoocoo on Nov 1, 2011 14:43:33 GMT -5
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 1, 2011 15:52:27 GMT -5
Yah- BDS' charts are the weekly ones, so the 11/5 charts cover the period of October 17-23.
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Post by renfield75 on Nov 1, 2011 16:26:21 GMT -5
To those will say Rihanna relies on current trends, or even dance pop, keep in mind Rated R had few dance influences and it's consistently rated as her best work. The closest thing to dance was "Rude Boy" & "Photographs" which means she would have no problem adapting to different musical climates. Also remember then that "Russian Roulette" and "Hard" were some of her least successful singles. Rihanna's well past the point of ever being a has-been; she's at a level where she will always be a celebrity and have fans (like Cyndi Lauper, Boy George, or Paula Abdul). All I'm saying is that if emotive, piano-driven vocal pop becomes the dominant genre then Rihanna won't be able to ring up number one singles like she has the past 5 years. To those saying "dance is here to stay"...no, it's not. There is always dance music but it goes underground and back to the clubs every once in awhile. Anyone who has been watching pop music trends for more than a decade knows nothing stays on top forever. Look at how Nelly, Ja Rule, and 50 Cent struggle to get hits now. Even Madonna and Mariah have to work hard to scratch the top ten. 70s soft rock was killed by disco, which went underground when harder rock took over in the early 80s. That was replaced by synth-pop, then hip-hop and ballads in the 90s, then teen-pop, then thug rap. It's all cyclical. And that's nothing bad. Trends change, artists come in and out of favor. Even if her career ended after "We Found Love" (unlikely) Rihanna's more than secured a place for herself in the record books and pop culture. |
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Post by felipe on Nov 1, 2011 17:55:17 GMT -5
FLO RIDA - Good Feeling: 30.799 (+ 2.224) Wow! I didn't think this would be doing this well. Annoying that it's credited only for Flo Rida as he has nothing to do with the song's success (Avicii/Etta James have) He has nothing to do with the song's success? I guess that's why "Levels" was such a huge hit then. |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Nov 1, 2011 18:31:36 GMT -5
To those will say Rihanna relies on current trends, or even dance pop, keep in mind Rated R had few dance influences and it's consistently rated as her best work. The closest thing to dance was "Rude Boy" & "Photographs" which means she would have no problem adapting to different musical climates. Also remember then that "Russian Roulette" and "Hard" were some of her least successful singles. Rihanna's well past the point of ever being a has-been; she's at a level where she will always be a celebrity and have fans (like Cyndi Lauper, Boy George, or Paula Abdul). All I'm saying is that if emotive, piano-driven vocal pop becomes the dominant genre then Rihanna won't be able to ring up number one singles like she has the past 5 years. To those saying "dance is here to stay"...no, it's not. There is always dance music but it goes underground and back to the clubs every once in awhile. Anyone who has been watching pop music trends for more than a decade knows nothing stays on top forever. Look at how Nelly, Ja Rule, and 50 Cent struggle to get hits now. Even Madonna and Mariah have to work hard to scratch the top ten. 70s soft rock was killed by disco, which went underground when harder rock took over in the early 80s. That was replaced by synth-pop, then hip-hop and ballads in the 90s, then teen-pop, then thug rap. It's all cyclical. And that's nothing bad. Trends change, artists come in and out of favor. Even if her career ended after "We Found Love" (unlikely) Rihanna's more than secured a place for herself in the record books and pop culture. Yeah but those songs were still able to hit the Top Ten despite not being the genre de jour of pop radio. |
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Post by Minor Scratch on Nov 1, 2011 20:18:34 GMT -5
To those will say Rihanna relies on current trends, or even dance pop, keep in mind Rated R had few dance influences and it's consistently rated as her best work. The closest thing to dance was "Rude Boy" & "Photographs" which means she would have no problem adapting to different musical climates. Also remember then that "Russian Roulette" and "Hard" were some of her least successful singles. Rihanna's well past the point of ever being a has-been; she's at a level where she will always be a celebrity and have fans (like Cyndi Lauper, Boy George, or Paula Abdul). All I'm saying is that if emotive, piano-driven vocal pop becomes the dominant genre then Rihanna won't be able to ring up number one singles like she has the past 5 years. To those saying "dance is here to stay"...no, it's not. There is always dance music but it goes underground and back to the clubs every once in awhile. Anyone who has been watching pop music trends for more than a decade knows nothing stays on top forever. Look at how Nelly, Ja Rule, and 50 Cent struggle to get hits now. Even Madonna and Mariah have to work hard to scratch the top ten. 70s soft rock was killed by disco, which went underground when harder rock took over in the early 80s. That was replaced by synth-pop, then hip-hop and ballads in the 90s, then teen-pop, then thug rap. It's all cyclical. And that's nothing bad. Trends change, artists come in and out of favor. Even if her career ended after "We Found Love" (unlikely) Rihanna's more than secured a place for herself in the record books and pop culture. Dance music on the American charts has been progressively getting more Euro House and less synth for the past four years. We were all saying it was gonna die out a whole year ago and Rihanna pushed the envelope even farther and went with a straight up house track as a first single and its a huge success not just worldwide but stateside as well. People who I knew hated House music love WFL. That is enough proof that dance is here to stay. Electronic music producers also don't have much of that 'sold out' factor like those other genres of music you mentioned and there is still a huge market of listeners that electronica and house hasn't touched yet in the United States. Its still relatively confined to the larger markets. We are still far from the peak of popularity as far as I'm concerned. |
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 2, 2011 4:00:36 GMT -5
Annoying that it's credited only for Flo Rida as he has nothing to do with the song's success (Avicii/Etta James have) He has nothing to do with the song's success? I guess that's why "Levels" was such a huge hit then. I meant that it could've been credited to anyone and still be a hit.. As Flo Rida's songs usually are. Don't you think his album "success" reflect this as well? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2011 5:03:48 GMT -5
Since We Found Love is obviously going to be number one this week, hopefully the Billboard article on it will be up early. :)
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Post by felipe on Nov 2, 2011 6:52:16 GMT -5
He has nothing to do with the song's success? I guess that's why "Levels" was such a huge hit then. I meant that it could've been credited to anyone and still be a hit.. As Flo Rida's songs usually are. Don't you think his album "success" reflect this as well? I guess that even though nobody buys his albums, there's still some sort of anticipation for his singles, as they often make an impact on the charts. It's hard for an act to keep getting hit singles after 5 years in the game. I bet that if the song was credited to 50 Cent it wouldn't be doing so well. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 2, 2011 8:44:35 GMT -5
Mediabase 7-Day Rolling Period, 10/26/11-11/1/11
There looks to be enough of a difference that SLY should finally take over No. 1 on Hot 100 Airplay.
1. ADELE - Someone Like You: 157.184 (+ 0.447)
2. MAROON 5 F/CHRISTINA AGUILERA - Moves Like Jagger: 148.837 (- 0.995)
3. GYM CLASS HEROES - Stereo Hearts f/Adam Levine: 118.860 (+ 0.416)
4. FOSTER THE PEOPLE - Pumped Up Kicks: 97.935 (- 1.823)
5. COBRA STARSHIP - You Make Me Feel... f/Sabi: 94.096 (+ 0.285)
6. DAVID GUETTA - Without You f/Usher: 90.396 (+ 1.501)
7. RIHANNA - We Found Love f/Calvin Harris: 86.395 (+ 1.908)
8. LMFAO - Sexy And I Know It: 83.428 (+ 1.208)
9. DEV - In The Dark: 79.497 (- 0.253)
10. DRAKE - Headlines: 78.961 (+ 0.602)
11. LMFAO - Party Rock Anthem: 72.058 (- 1.261)
12. LIL WAYNE - She Will f/Drake: 61.961 (- 0.164)
13. JAY Z & KANYE WEST - N***** In Paris: 61.453 (+ 0.455) ▲
14. PITBULL - Give Me Everything f/Ne-Yo: 61.445 (- 0.383) ▼
15. LADY GAGA - You And I: 58.694 (- 0.896)
16. BAD MEETS EVIL - Lighters f/Bruno Mars: 57.260 (- 0.863)
17. ONEREPUBLIC - Good Life: 55.587 (+ 0.140)
18. NICKI MINAJ - Super Bass: 54.998 (- 0.197)
19. BLAKE SHELTON - God Gave Me You: 53.897 (- 0.104)
20. ELI YOUNG BAND - Crazy Girl: 52.384 (+ 0.633) ▲
OTHERS:
KELLY CLARKSON - Mr. Know It All: 52.329 (+ 0.479)
ADELE - Rolling In The Deep: 51.986 (- 0.362)
LADY ANTEBELLUM - Just A Kiss: 51.209 (- 0.096)
NICKI MINAJ - Fly f/Rihanna: 50.379 (+ 0.798)
T-PAIN - 5 O'clock f/Wiz Khalifa: 46.142 (+ 1.086)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Sparks Fly: 44.238 (+ 0.482)
MIRANDA LAMBERT - Baggage Claim: 44.074 (+ 0.181)
BRUNO MARS - It Will Rain: 40.089 (+ 1.078)
KATY PERRY - The One That Got Away: 38.803 (+ 1.232)
THE SCRIPT - Nothing: 37.454 (- 0.671)
FLO RIDA - Good Feeling: 34.036 (+ 1.458)
BEYONCE - Party f/Kanye & Andre: 32.554 (+ 0.348)
BRITNEY SPEARS - Criminal: 18.050 (+ 0.519)
SELENA GOMEZ & THE SCENE - Love You Like A Love Song: 15.028 (+ 0.471)
COLDPLAY - Paradise: 14.933 (+ 0.406)
DRAKE - Make Me Proud f/Nicki Minaj: 13.192 (+ 0.351)
BEYONCE - Countdown: 10.950 (+ 0.358)
EVANESCENCE - What You Want: 6.485 (- 0.028)
ENRIQUE IGLESIAS - I Like How It Feels: 6.261 (- 0.122)
JENNIFER LOPEZ - Papi: 5.524 (- 0.134)
AVRIL LAVIGNE - Wish You Were Here: 3.064 (+ 0.146)
ADELE - Rumour Has It: 1.698 (- 0.041)
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Post by keyboard on Nov 2, 2011 9:17:18 GMT -5
So close for Kelly!!
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 2, 2011 9:21:57 GMT -5
Mediabase's totals for country radio are usually notably higher than BDS, so perhaps "Mr. Know It All" could sneak into the BDS top 20 airplay. It was No. 22* last week.
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Post by felipe on Nov 2, 2011 9:34:06 GMT -5
As for album sales, no artist in the past five years have sold what the top selling artists did in the 90s so to compare album sales is not sensible. As kylecburke said, different eras and different times. It's like comparing apples and oranges. You can't compare their sales figures, but you can compare the fact that Mariah was one of the top album sellers of the time, and Rihanna is not. Mariah was huge on both albums and singles charts. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 2, 2011 10:02:37 GMT -5
Billboard.com
Over on the Digital Songs chart, both the top seller and the highest debut have one thing in common: Rihanna. RiRi is at No. 1 for a second week with "We Found Love," featuring Calvin Harris, which sells another 243,000 downloads (up 5%). Rihanna is also one-half of the tally's highest debut at No. 8, where "Princess of China," by Coldplay & Rihanna, bows with 105,000.
Right behind "Princess" is Kelly Clarkson's "Mr. Know It All," which charges 18-9 with 104,000 (up 60%). The track benefits from its parent album's release last week, plus performances of the song on NBC's "Today" (Oct. 25), ABC's "The View" (26) and "Late Night With Jimmy Fallon" (28).
At No. 10, Flo Rida's "Good Feeling" takes a big 63% hike as the song sells 100,000 and jumps up nine slots. It's his eighth top 10 title on the Digital Songs chart and is the first single from the forthcoming album "Only One Rida (Pt. 2)."
The rest of the top 10 on Digital Songs is a bit static, as LMFAO's "Sexy and I Know It" holds at No. 2 (206,000; down 1%) as does Adele's "Someone Like You" at No. 3 (150,000; down 14%). Foster the People's "Pumped Up Kicks" rises 6-4 (132,000) despite a 13% decline. Maroon 5's "Moves Like Jagger" (featuring Christina Aguilera) also climbs 7-5, though it's down 11% (126,000). David Guetta's "Without You" (featuring Usher) moves 8-6 (117,000; down 7%) and Gym Class Heroes' "Stereo Hearts" (featuring Adam Levine) skips 9-7 (109,000; down 12%).
Digital track sales this past week totaled 20.10 million downloads, down 2% compared to last week (20.48 million) and up 7% stacked next to the comparable week of 2010 (18.77 million). Year to date track sales are at 1.03 billion, up 10% compared to the same total at this point last year (937.02 million).
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Post by neally on Nov 2, 2011 10:05:31 GMT -5
Those those who are good at the Hot 100 predictions, know that Kelly Clarkson's 'Know' sold 104k, where do you think it will land ?
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Post by Tea-why on Nov 2, 2011 10:06:12 GMT -5
Rihanna's 'Found' Her Way Back to Hot 100 Summit
Rihanna rises to her 11th No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 songs chart, as "We Found Love," featuring Calvin Harris, ascends 2-1 with Airplay Gainer honors in its sixth week on the survey.
Rihanna is just the seventh artist in the Hot 100's 53-year history to tally at least 11 leaders, joining the Beatles (20), Mariah Carey (18), Michael Jackson (13), Madonna (12), the Supremes (12) and Whitney Houston (11). She passes Janet Jackson and Stevie Wonder, each with 10 No. 1s.
Among women, Rihanna, thus, moves into a third-place tie with Houston for most toppers, after only Carey and Madonna.
"Found," the lead single from "Talk That Talk," due Nov. 21, spends a second week at No. 1 on the Digital Songs chart with 243,000 downloads sold, up 5%, according to Nielsen SoundScan. The weekly sum pushes the song past a million in release-to-date digital sales (1,057,000), marking Rihanna's 20th download to reach the million-selling milestone, extending her record for the most such downloads among women. Eminem's "Love the Way You Lie," on which she guests, is her best-selling digital song (5.1 million), followed by her top-selling title as a lead act, "Disturbia" (4.3 million).
On Radio Songs, "Found" flies 11-7 (85 million, up 22%, according to Nielsen BDS). The song marks Rihanna's 17th top 10 on the airplay ranking. Since her first week in the chart's top tier (July 2, 2005) with "Pon De Replay," she ties T-Pain for most top 10s in that span.
The coronation of "Found" dethrones Adele's "Someone Like You" (1-2) after five non-consecutive weeks atop the Hot 100. The song does, however, rise 2-1 on Radio Songs (147 million all-format audience impressions, down 1%) to become her second leader on the chart; "Rolling in the Deep" topped Radio Songs for six weeks beginning in June.
On Digital Songs, "Someone" holds at No. 3 with 150,000 downloads sold (down 14%).
LMFAO's "Sexy and I Know It" jumps 4-3 on the Hot 100. The cut remains at No. 2 on Digital Songs (206,000), while lifting 10-8 on Radio Songs (84 million, up 11%).
Rounding out the Hot 100's top five, former four-week No. 1 "Moves Like Jagger" by Maroon 5 featuring Christina Aguilera falls 3-4 and Foster the People's "Pumped Up Kicks" holds at No. 5.
Gym Class Heroes' "Stereo Hearts," featuring Maroon 5's Adam Levine, stays No. 6 on the Hot 100; David Guetta's "Without You," featuring Usher, holds at No. 7; LMFAO's former six-week No. 1 "Party Rock Anthem," featuring Lauren Bennett and GoonRock, rebounds 10-8; and, Cobra Starship's "You Make Me Feel...," featuring Sabi, drops 8-9.
As her fifth album, "Stronger," debuts on the Billboard 200, Kelly Clarkson collects her ninth Hot 100 top 10, as the set's lead single, "Mr. Know It All," blasts 19-10. The track charges 18-9 on Digital Songs (104,000, up 60%) and 22-19 on Radio Songs (47 million, up 5%).
Clarkson has scored two Hot 100 No. 1s - her 2002 "American Idol" victory ballad "A Moment Like This" and 2009's "My Life Would Suck Without You" (two weeks on top each) - and previous top 10s "Miss Independent" (No. 9, 2003); "Breakaway" (No. 6, 2004); "Since You Been Gone" (No. 2, 2005); "Behind These Hazel Eyes" (No. 6, 2005); "Because of You" (No. 7, 2005); and, "Never Again" (No. 8, 2007).
Check Billboard.com tomorrow (Nov. 3), when all rankings, including the Hot 100 in its entirety and the Digital Songs and Radio Songs charts, will be refreshed, as they are each Thursday.
(billboard.com)
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 2, 2011 10:10:47 GMT -5
The RiRi hits machine keeps on charging. And Kelly Clarkson snares that top 10.
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Post by badrobot on Nov 2, 2011 10:12:52 GMT -5
Although it is one of her weakest singles, I'm glad for Kelly getting another top ten. This means she has had at least one top ten single from all 5 of her studio albums.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 2, 2011 10:16:38 GMT -5
Note: Rihanna's first No. 1 on the Hot 100 came week of may 13, 2006; the 11th came week of November 12, 2011. A five-year-six-month span. By comparison, Mimi Carey landed her first No. 1 week of August 4, 1990, and the 11th week of May 4, 1996. Five years and nine months. Unlike RiRi, though, Mimi's first Hot 100 entry was a No. 1, while RiRi scored hers with her third Hot 100 entry.
RiRi's accelerated rate of racking up No. 1s in the last few years, though, has become rather astonishing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2011 10:22:43 GMT -5
Congrats to Rihanna on her 11th #1! And might I just add, that if anybody today had to enter the elite company that she now finds herself in, I'm glad it was her, and not Britney. ;)
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 2, 2011 10:26:01 GMT -5
^And why is that? There's not much difference in their abilities. :)
Updated my post- actually five years, seven months between RiRi's first and 11th No. 1. But, as noted, the speed at racking them up has been pretty mighty the last few years.
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Post by Enigma. on Nov 2, 2011 10:26:45 GMT -5
FYI "We Found Love" becomes the first song since "Poker Face" to top the UK and Finnish singles chart and Hot 100.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2011 10:27:58 GMT -5
Note: Rihanna's first No. 1 on the Hot 100 came week of may 13, 2006; the 11th came week of November 12, 2011. Five-and-a-half years on the nose. By comparison, Mimi Carey landed her first No. 1 week of August 4, 1990, and the 11th week of May 4, 1996. Five years and nine months. Unlike RiRi, though, Mimi's first Hot 100 entry was a No. 1, while RiRi scored hers with her third Hot 100 entry. RiRi's accelerated rate of racking up No. 1s in the last few years, though, has become rather astonishing. And the Beatles racked up their 11th #1 in just one year and eleven months; Feb 1, 1964 to Jan 8, 1966. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2011 10:30:19 GMT -5
^And why is that? There's not much difference in their abilities. :) I disagree. At least Rihanna tries to sing live in concert. She may not be the best singer out there, but at least she tries. Her music is more innovative too. At least IMO. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 2, 2011 10:44:19 GMT -5
Oops- my math skills are tricks me today- it IS five years and six months for RiRi. LOL
I'll give you that, in terms of the live singing. And, she probably does mix things up a bit more than Spears. But no denying that Spears is the bigger star/icon (the reasons for that not necessarily having to do with the work).
As for the Beatles- that was another era and time, and the feat was something else. As the band is. The comparison to Mimi is more fitting. ;)
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Post by Jay D83 on Nov 2, 2011 11:08:22 GMT -5
If they hadn't stopped releasing singles in the late 99s-00s Britney would probably very well have been on that list.
Congrats to Rhi-Rhi though. I predict by the end of the year she'll have snatched Whitney's wig and will probably snatch Madge's by mid 2012.
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Post by Mike Schwartz on Nov 2, 2011 11:51:06 GMT -5
Note: Rihanna's first No. 1 on the Hot 100 came week of may 13, 2006; the 11th came week of November 12, 2011. Five-and-a-half years on the nose. By comparison, Mimi Carey landed her first No. 1 week of August 4, 1990, and the 11th week of May 4, 1996. Five years and nine months. Unlike RiRi, though, Mimi's first Hot 100 entry was a No. 1, while RiRi scored hers with her third Hot 100 entry. RiRi's accelerated rate of racking up No. 1s in the last few years, though, has become rather astonishing. And the Beatles racked up their 11th #1 in just one year and eleven months; Feb 1, 1964 to Jan 8, 1966. This isn't an apples to oranges comparison, but more like an apples to chopped liver comparison. When Beatlemania first struck in Feb 1964, many different record companies, who had held Beatles music in their vaults for some time, released the material simultaneously. The feeling was that this was simply another passing musical trend and they all wanted a piece of the golden goose, before the opportunity passed. In the US, Capital, then later Apple were the prime Beatles labels, but a review of the charts from 1964 will show titles from Vee Jay, United Artists and a few others. Had they been under the exclusive control of one label, you most likely would NOT have had a top 10 like the infamous April 4th, 1964 Hot 100 and their overall total of #1 hits would be somewhere below the 20 titles that they are credited with. Check the link below... www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100?tag=chscr1#/charts/hot-100?chartDate=1964-04-04 |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 2, 2011 11:57:17 GMT -5
JayD, some other acts would have had additional No. 1s with CD single releases in the late 90s/early 2000s. She perhaps would be just short of 10 by now, but the label opted to maximize album sales and not play the chart game.
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Post by badrobot on Nov 2, 2011 11:59:09 GMT -5
If they hadn't stopped releasing singles in the late 99s-00s Britney would probably very well have been on that list. I doubt that. Britney did release a handful of physical singles and, while they helped chart positions, they did not quite light things on fire. "Crazy," "Oops," and "Toxic" would have likely hit #1 on the Hot 100 but I'm not sure any of her other singles would have. |
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