Mediabase CHR/Pop Top 50 Chart

[RoseColoredGirl]

For some reason the published chart for tonight is already up on AllAccess, and ChartReporter is right. "A Bar Song" and "Espresso" both went recurrent for some reason, so the rules must have changed. "BBA," "BLVD," "Whatcha Want" and "Liberian Girl" were all pulled in.

[Az Paynter]

So what, they push the morning update back two and a half hours... but they also bring the final update forward a few hours as well? I don't hate the latter, getting the final sooner.

RE: Espresso and A Bar Song, both had been in the top 10 for 20+ weeks so if there's been an additional rule implemented about going recurrent below top 5 I think that may have something to do with it. I would just like for whatever the new rule is, that Mediabase communicates it to us like how they did when they whipped up the rule that 'allowed' Levitating and Heat Waves to come back a couple years ago.

EDIT: Lol at getting Lawrence back like this, and the spin threshold for top 50 dropping back under 200!

[musiciscool]

Nov 17, 2024 18:11:46 GMT -5 RoseColoredGirl said:

For some reason the published chart for tonight is already up on AllAccess, and ChartReporter is right. "A Bar Song" and "Espresso" both went recurrent for some reason, so the rules must have changed. "BBA," "BLVD," "Whatcha Want" and "Liberian Girl" were all pulled in.

They recently changed the rules on HAC where descending songs below #5 go recurrent 40 or more weeks on the chart. There must have been a rule change on CHR, too.

[jdanton2]

not sure i like them removing songs before they drop out of the top 10 . Espresso is still #1 in Audience and Bar Song #1 on the Hot 100 .

[Leo ✔]

why they didn't do this like a month ago when we had Beautiful Things.......

[Leo ✔]

SUNDAY PUBLISHED UPDATE:

4 1 LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS Die With A Smile 14200 13060 1140 34.652
1 2 HOZIER Too Sweet 13491 14135 -644 32.260
5 3 SABRINA CARPENTER Taste 13292 12695 597 36.705
7 4 MYLES SMITH Stargazing 13002 11833 1169 31.509
3 5 BILLIE EILISH BIRDS OF A FEATHER 12913 13645 -732 35.675
8 6 TAYLOR SWIFT I Can Do It With A Broken Heart 11138 10364 774 22.527
9 7 TEDDY SWIMS The Door 10020 9925 95 23.179
10 8 SABRINA CARPENTER Please Please Please 8924 9859 -935 23.729
12 9 THE WEEKND Dancing In The Flames 8262 7955 307 19.022
11 10 CHAPPELL ROAN HOT TO GO! 8028 9671 -1643 19.961

13 11 TATE MCRAE It's ok I'm ok 7463 7332 131 16.057
14 12 CHARLI XCX Apple 6598 6322 276 14.732
15 13 MEGHAN TRAINOR Criminals 5754 5634 120 11.862
16 14 LADY GAGA Disease 5351 4999 352 11.861
18 15 JELLY ROLL I Am Not Okay 5091 4836 255 9.396
21 16 ROSE & BRUNO MARS APT 4968 3958 1010 12.676
19 17 ADDISON RAE Diet Pepsi 4931 4785 146 8.871
20 18 SABRINA CARPENTER Bed Chem 4746 4157 589 11.990
22 19 GRACIE ABRAMS Close To You 4026 3733 293 8.581
23 20 KHALID Heatstroke 3050 3092 -42 3.997

24 21 MGK & JELLY ROLL Lonely Road 2828 2628 200 3.950
27 22 D. GUETTA/ALPHAVILLE/AVA MAX Forever Young 2452 1915 537 4.524
25 23 KATY PERRY I'm His, He's Mine f/Doechii 2271 2292 -21 3.537
29 24 AKON Akon's Beautiful Day 1985 1588 397 2.795
31 25 DAMIANO DAVID Born With A Broken Heart 1832 1282 550 3.359
28 26 THE WEEKND & PLAYBOI CARTI Timeless 1719 1616 103 4.068
26 27 KESHA Joyride 1668 1933 -265 1.966
30 28 KOE WETZEL & JESSIE MURPH High Road 1540 1356 184 1.375
32 29 MORGAN WALLEN Love Somebody 1412 1216 196 2.079
34 30 LISA Moonlit Floor (Kiss Me) 1268 1173 95 2.901

33 31 KATSEYE Touch 1230 1185 45 1.949
41 32 CHAPPELL ROAN Pink Pony Club 904 636 268 1.696
37 33 FALLING IN REVERSE/JELLY ROLL All My Life 801 779 22 0.702
38 34 KYLIE MINOGUE Lights Camera Action 788 752 36 0.658
45 35 ALEX WARREN Burning Down 759 409 350 1.177
39 36 NCT DREAM Rains In Heaven 737 740 -3 0.881
35 37 CHARLI XCX 360 689 964 -275 1.925
47 38 JENNIE Mantra 681 343 338 0.806
36 39 MEGAN THEE STALLION Mamushi f/Yuki Chiba 678 820 -142 3.145
43 40 CAROL DOCHE Montego f/Wiz Khalifa 527 511 16 0.326

42 41 AUDRIIX I Do 501 533 -32 0.351
97 42 GRACIE ABRAMS That's So True 479 53 426 1.981
46 43 ANSLEY Don Julio 368 365 3 0.246
52 44 GIGI PEREZ Sailor Song 355 204 151 0.476
49 45 JASON DERULO Make Me Happy 297 292 5 0.560
57 46 THE WEEKND Sao Paulo f/Anitta 269 90 179 0.300
48 47 PARIS HILTON BBA f/Megan Thee Stallion 269 298 -29 0.220
51 48 CARA BLVD 268 260 8 0.065
44 49 LAWRENCE Whatcha Want 245 487 -242 0.136
50 50 DAVID MAY & B. HOWARD Liberian Girl 168 280 -112 0.050

[musiciscool]

Nov 17, 2024 18:23:51 GMT -5 jdanton2 said:

not sure i like them removing songs before they drop out of the top 10 . Espresso is still #1 in Audience and Bar Song #1 on the Hot 100 .

You can expect both Espresso and A Bar Song to plummet out of the Top 10 on AT40 now. When songs go recurrent on there, they seem to drop those songs like rocks, even if they are techinically still in the Top 10.

[clsvltn]

Nov 17, 2024 18:23:51 GMT -5 jdanton2 said:

not sure i like them removing songs before they drop out of the top 10 . Espresso is still #1 in Audience and Bar Song #1 on the Hot 100 .

Yeah, that is a pretty bizarre move... Is it possible it was a mistake somehow?

[sportytheartist]

Nov 17, 2024 18:40:11 GMT -5 Leo ✔ said:

why they didn't do this like a month ago when we had Beautiful Things.......

For real! Not Like Us could’ve went top 10 if it happened back in August/September.

[MitchWolf: Super Chart Genius]

Nov 17, 2024 18:11:46 GMT -5 RoseColoredGirl said:

For some reason the published chart for tonight is already up on AllAccess, and ChartReporter is right. "A Bar Song" and "Espresso" both went recurrent for some reason, so the rules must have changed. "BBA," "BLVD," "Whatcha Want" and "Liberian Girl" were all pulled in.

i looked at AllAccess and i didn't see the published update that you guys saw... am i .., WAIT they posted on the rolling page not the published

[70jack90]

Wow, new recurrent rules on the CHR chart? Well, that'll make the charts more fresher!

Sunday's Published Update (November 17, 2024)

2024 #1s
01/07 - Tate McRae - Greedy 16609 44.810
01/14 - Tate McRae - Greedy 16984 46.041
01/21 - Tate McRae - Greedy 16881 45.419
01/28 - Tate McRae - Greedy 16513 45.109
02/04 - Jack Harlow - Lovin' on Me 16097 43.185
02/11 - Jack Harlow - Lovin' on Me 16181 43.744
02/18 - Doja Cat - Agora Hills 16313 45.272
02/25 - Jack Harlow - Lovin' on Me 16473 45.615
03/03 - Jack Harlow - Lovin' on Me 16481 45.776
03/10 - Taylor Swift - Is It Over Now? 17266 46.88
03/17 - Jack Harlow - Lovin' on Me 15335 44.02
03/24 - Sabrina Carpenter - Feather 15514 42.992
03/31 - Sabrina Carpenter - Feather 15755 43.456
04/07 - Teddy Swims - Lose Control 15864 42.383
04/14 - Teddy Swims - Lose Control 16487 44.313
04/21 - Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 16567 43.808
04/28 - Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 16879 44.864
05/05 - Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 16676 44.458
05/12 - Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 16569 44.093
05/19 - Ariana Grande - We Can't Be Friends (Wait For Your Love) 16335 43.626
05/26 - Ariana Grande - We Can't Be Friends (Wait For Your Love) 15891 42.448
06/02 - SZA - Saturn 15827 44.153
06/09 - Hozier - Too Sweet 15551 43.356
06/16 - Hozier - Too Sweet 16670 46.246
06/23 - Hozier - Too Sweet 16978 46.398
06/30 - Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 17036 44.615
07/07 - Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 17357 45.762
07/14 - Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 16879 44.225
07/21 - Hozier - Too Sweet 16323 40.437
07/28 - Post Malone feat. Morgan Wallen - I Had Some Help 16781 38.967
08/04 - Hozier - Too Sweet 15896 36.189
08/11 - Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy) 16474 36.826
08/18 - Tommy Richman - Million Dollar Baby 15865 35.031
08/25 - Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please 15567 38.137
09/01 - Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please 16181 39.894
09/08 - Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please 15869 40.471
09/15 - Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe! 15911 39.485
09/22 - Billie Eilish - Birds of a Feather 16434 39.666
09/29 - Billie Eilish - Birds of a Feather 15996 39.001
10/06 - Billie Eilish - Birds of a Feather 15841 38.661
10/13 - Billie Eilish - Birds of a Feather 15537 37.915
10/20 - Billie Eilish - Birds of a Feather 14689 36.600
10/27 - Billie Eilish - Birds of a Feather 14289 38.422
11/03 - Billie Eilish - Birds of a Feather 14158 38.13
11/10 - Hozier - Too Sweet 14135 33.76
11/17 - Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars - Die With a Smile 14200 34.652

Charts for years:
2020 2021 2022 2023

Key:
Example - Bulleted.
Example - Past number one.
Example - Current #1.
Example - Top 40 Debut.
Example - Top 50 Debut.
Example - Top 40 AND Top 50 Debut.
Example - Top 40 OR Top 50 Re-Entry.

4 1 LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS Die With A Smile 14200 13060 1140 34.652 (14)
1 2 HOZIER Too Sweet 13491 14135 -644 32.260 (33)
5 3 SABRINA CARPENTER Taste 13292 12695 597 36.705 (12)
7 4 MYLES SMITH Stargazing 13002 11833 1169 31.509 (20) (Greatest gainer +1169)
3 5 BILLIE EILISH Birds Of A Feather 12913 13645 -732 35.675 (23)
8 6 TAYLOR SWIFT I Can Do It With A Broken Heart 11138 10364 774 22.527 (18)
9 7 TEDDY SWIMS The Door 10020 9925 95 23.179 (23)
10 8 SABRINA CARPENTER Please Please Please 8924 9859 -935 23.729 (22)
12 9 THE WEEKND Dancing In The Flames 8262 7955 307 19.022 (10)
11 10 CHAPPELL ROAN Hot To Go! 8028 9671 -1643 19.961 (14)

13 11 TATE MCRAE It's Ok, I'm Ok 7463 7332 131 16.057 (10)
14 12 CHARLI XCX Apple 6598 6322 276 14.732 (11)
15 13 MEGHAN TRAINOR Criminals 5754 5634 120 11.862 (8)
16 14 LADY GAGA Disease 5351 4999 352 11.861 (4)
18 15 JELLY ROLL I Am Not Okay 5091 4836 255 9.396 (18)
21 16 ROSE & BRUNO MARS APT 4968 3958 1010 12.676 (4)
19 17 ADDISON RAE Diet Pepsi 4931 4785 146 8.871 (8)
20 18 SABRINA CARPENTER Bed Chem 4746 4157 589 11.990 (7)
22 19 GRACIE ABRAMS Close To You 4026 3733 293 8.581 (12)
23 20 KHALID Heatstroke 3050 3092 -42 3.997 (11)

24 21 MGK & JELLY ROLL Lonely Road 2828 2628 200 3.950 (13)
27 22 DAVID GUETTA, ALPHAVILLE & AVA MAX Forever Young 2452 1915 537 4.524 (4)
25 23 KATY PERRY I'm His, He's Mine f/Doechii 2271 2292 -21 3.537 (6)
29 24 AKON Beautiful Day 1985 1588 397 2.795 (4)
31 25 DAMIANO DAVID Born With A Broken Heart 1832 1282 550 3.359 (3) (Biggest mover this week +6)
28 26 THE WEEKND & PLAYBOI CARTI Timeless 1719 1616 103 4.068 (4)
26 27 KESHA Joyride 1668 1933 -265 1.966 (8)
30 28 KOE WETZEL & JESSIE MURPH High Road 1540 1356 184 1.375 (10)
32 29 MORGAN WALLEN Love Somebody 1412 1216 196 2.079 (3)
34 30 LISA Moonlit Floor (Kiss Me) 1268 1173 95 2.901 (4)

33 31 KATSEYE Touch 1230 1185 45 1.949 (5)
41 32 CHAPPELL ROAN Pink Pony Club 904 636 268 1.696 (1) (Highest debut this week)
37 33 FALLING IN REVERSE All My Life f/Jelly Roll 801 779 22 0.702 (2)
38 34 KYLIE MINOGUE Lights Camera Action 788 752 36 0.658 (2)
45 35 ALEX WARREN Burning Down 759 409 350 1.177 (1)
39 36 NCT DREAM Rains In Heaven 737 740 -3 0.881 (3)
35 37 CHARLI XCX 360 689 964 -275 1.925 (17)
47 38 JENNIE Mantra 681 343 338 0.806 (1)
36 39 MEGAN THEE STALLION Mamushi f/Yuki Chiba 678 820 -142 3.145 (2)
43 40 CAROL DOCHE Montego f/Wiz Khalifa 527 511 16 0.326 (1)

42 41 AUDRIIX I Do 501 533 -32 0.351
97 42 GRACIE ABRAMS That's So True 479 53 426 1.981
46 43 ANSLEY Don Julio 368 365 3 0.246
52 44 GIGI PEREZ Sailor Song 355 204 151 0.476
49 45 JASON DERULO Make Me Happy 297 292 5 0.560
57 46 THE WEEKND Sao Paulo f/Anitta 269 90 179 0.300
48 47 PARIS HILTON BBA f/Megan Thee Stallion 269 298 -29 0.220
51 48 CARA BLVD 268 260 8 0.065
44 49 LAWRENCE Whatcha Want 245 487 -242 0.136 (5)
50 50 DAVID MAY & B. HOWARD Liberian Girl 168 280 -112 0.050

Droppers and going recurrent this week:

"Nasty" by Tinashe (purged after 14 weeks)
"Not Like Us" by Kendrick Lamar (goes recurrent after 20 weeks)

(new recurrent rule effect)
"A Bar Song (Tipsy)" by Shaboozy (goes recurrent after 27 weeks)
"Espresso" by Sabrina Carpenter (finally goes recurrent after 30 weeks)

Most Increased Plays:

01) SABRINA CARPENTER Taste +1375
02) ROSE & BRUNO MARS APT +1365
03) LADY GAGA Disease +1303
04) LADY GAGA & BRUNO MARS Die With A Smile +1272
05) MYLES SMITH Stargazing +942
06) SABRINA CARPENTER Bed Chem +883
07) THE WEEKND Dancing In The Flames +863
08) ADDISON RAE Diet Pepsi +622
09) CHARLI XCX Apple +577
10) DAMANIO DAVID Born With A Broken Heart +571


Top Recurrents:

1 SABRINA CARPENTER Espresso 12869 13685 -816 37.252
2 SHABOOZEY A Bar Song (Tipsy) 12343 12632 -289 30.715
3 BENSON BOONE Beautiful Things 9122 9501 -379 23.003
4 CHAPPELL ROAN Good Luck, Babe! 7173 8464 -1291 23.96
5 POST MALONE I Had Some Help f/M. Wallen 6550 6876 -326 17.131
6 TEDDY SWIMS Lose Control 6214 6603 -389 16.504
7 TOMMY RICHMAN MILLION DOLLAR BABY 5161 5663 -502 11.321
8 KENDRICK LAMAR Not Like Us 4330 4893 -563 10.367
9 SZA Saturn 3860 4398 -538 11.772
10 JACK HARLOW Lovin On Me 3844 3958 -114 8.832

11 DOJA CAT Agora Hills 3601 3534 67 10.72
12 ARIANA GRANDE we can't be friends (wait...) 3394 4084 -690 10.155
13 TATE MCRAE Greedy 2977 2900 77 7.598
14 DOJA CAT Paint The Town Red 2781 2681 100 7.252
15 MIGUEL Sure Thing 2621 2552 69 6.987
16 METRO BOOMIN Creepin' f/The Weeknd, 21 Sav. 2138 2100 38 5.708
17 THE WEEKND Die For You 2078 2150 -72 5.732
18 REMA & SELENA GOMEZ Calm Down 1981 2303 -322 4.795
19 SABRINA CARPENTER Feather 1851 2004 -153 5.109
20 SZA Snooze 1588 1638 -50 5.994

21 SZA Kill Bill 1583 1658 -75 4.492
22 DUA LIPA Dance The Night 1572 1670 -98 3.297
23 MILEY CYRUS Flowers 1494 1649 -155 3.121
24 TAYLOR SWIFT Cruel Summer 1445 1714 -269 3.201
25 EMINEM Houdini 1091 1103 -12 3.569
26 DUA LIPA Houdini 1040 1241 -201 3.339
27 MARK AMBOR Belong Together 914 1421 -507 2.016
28 PAUL RUSSELL Lil Boo Thang 873 984 -111 1.898
29 DASHA Austin 754 1019 -265 1.42
30 NOAH KAHAN Stick Season 702 708 -6 1.93

31 OLIVIA RODRIGO Vampire 700 758 -58 1.662
32 DOECHII What It Is (Block Boy) 686 749 -63 2.195
33 KANE BROWN & MARSHMELLO Miles On It 617 680 -63 1.436
34 BENSON BOONE Slow It Down 582 670 -88 1.682
35 TAYLOR SWIFT Karma 437 432 5 0.873
36 LUKE COMBS Fast Car 375 325 50 0.965
37 THE KID LAROI Girls 347 318 29 0.676
38 MADISON BEER Make You Mine 343 310 33 0.833
39 TINASHE Nasty 323 656 -333 0.756
40 ARIANA GRANDE the boy is mine 323 410 -87 1.007

41 DUA LIPA Illusion 319 357 -38 0.527
42 HALSEY Ego 317 539 -222 0.572
43 ALEX WARREN Carry You Home 263 390 -127 0.352
44 TAYLOR SWIFT Is It Over Now? (Taylor's...) 245 237 8 0.366
45 TYLA Water 229 265 -36 0.607
46 MORGAN WALLEN Last Night 228 236 -8 0.315
47 COLDPLAY We Pray f/BurnaBoy/Little Simz 228 631 -403 0.507
48 BILLIE EILISH What Was I Made For? 221 183 38 0.613
49 KENYA GRACE Strangers 200 161 39 0.706
50 DJO End Of Beginning 191 196 -5 0.439

New Releases this week:
(no songs impacting this week)
Nothing.

Coming Soon:
(subject to change, since some don't get pushed to pop, and they are my guesses)
"Heart of Gold" by Shawn Mendes
"Wildflower" by Billie Eilish
"All My Love" by Coldplay
"Nobody's Soldier" by Hozier
"Pretty Slowly" by Benson Boone
"Bad Dreams" by Teddy Swims
"Do No Wrong" by Liam Payne and Sam Pounds

Past #1's on this week:

40 years ago (1984): "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" by Wham! (Billboard) "Purple Rain" by Prince and the Revolution (R&R)
35 years ago (1989): "When I See You Smile" by Bad English (Billboard) "Blame It On the Rain" by Milli Vanilli (R&R)
30 years ago (1994): "Another Night" by Real McCoy
25 years ago (1999): "Smooth" by Santana feat. Rob Thomas
20 years ago (2004): "Over and Over" by Nelly feat. Tim McGraw
15 years ago (2009): "Whatcha Say" by Jason Derulo
10 years ago (2014): "Animals" by Maroon 5
5 years ago (2019): "Circles" by Post Malone
1 year ago (2023): "Paint the Town Red" by Doja Cat

#1's on the other charts:

Alternative: "Dopamine" by Sum 41
Rhythmic: "Timeless" by The Weeknd and Playboi Carti
Urban: "TGIF" by GloRilla
R&B: "Something We Can Make Love To" by Eric Benet and Tamar Braxton
Dance: "Hot Honey" by Tiesto and Alana Springsteen
Country: "One Bad Habit" by Tim McGraw
Active Rock: "Angel Song" by Nothing More feat. David Draiman
Triple A: "Nobody's Solder" by Hozier
Hot AC: "Birds of a Feather" by Billie Eilish
AC: "Lose Control" by Teddy Swims (Many AC stations are interrupting normal programming for Xmas music at this point)
Album: Chromakopia by Tyler, the Creator

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[southerninternal999]

I'm gonna hold off until we get official word before I jump to conclusions.

But if this rule is true, then the charts might be more interesting now


EDIT: Ok, so I think I got the gist of it now. Songs in the top ten that are unbulleted, outside the top 5, and have spent 20+ weeks on the charts go recurrent.

Still not sure if it's true or not, but if it is, at least we won't have another Beautiful Things or Calm Down situation on our hands

[Au$tin]

A sad day when recurrency for pop is below 5 😬

[southerninternal999]

Nov 17, 2024 19:27:28 GMT -5 MitchWolf: Super Chart Genius said:

Nov 17, 2024 18:11:46 GMT -5 RoseColoredGirl said:

For some reason the published chart for tonight is already up on AllAccess, and ChartReporter is right. "A Bar Song" and "Espresso" both went recurrent for some reason, so the rules must have changed. "BBA," "BLVD," "Whatcha Want" and "Liberian Girl" were all pulled in.

i looked at AllAccess and i didn't see the published update that you guys saw... am i .., WAIT they posted on the rolling page not the published

So, does that mean that this is or isn't the official chart (I'm sorry, I just so confused right now)

EDIT: Nevermind, it's official now

[frashcoholic]

what?? new rule for recurent? I don't get it. Someone please explain.

[sportytheartist]

It’s now on the published side of charts now, so I think these are the new rules now 👍

[bat1990]

Maybe it'll mean stations will have some cover to reduce spins of A Bar Song if it's in recurrent-land.

[greggpo]

Nov 17, 2024 18:21:19 GMT -5 Az Paynter said:

So what, they push the morning update back two and a half hours... but they also bring the final update forward a few hours as well? I don't hate the latter, getting the final sooner.

RE: Espresso and A Bar Song, both had been in the top 10 for 20+ weeks so if there's been an additional rule implemented about going recurrent below top 5 I think that may have something to do with it. I would just like for whatever the new rule is, that Mediabase communicates it to us like how they did when they whipped up the rule that 'allowed' Levitating and Heat Waves to come back a couple years ago.

EDIT: Lol at getting Lawrence back like this, and the spin threshold for top 50 dropping back under 200!

I am seeing within the next few months the spin threshold for the top 50 dropping back below 100 for a few weeks like last winter. I was thinking that before seeing them sending Espresso and a Bar Song to recurrency.

[SPRΞΞ]

I don’t like it cuz now some records will never be broken.

[nick64]

As much as I’ve hated the ridiculous longevity of songs lately, changing the recurrency rules is definitely not what I wanted. “Top 10” feels so sacred, and now it just… isn’t :/

[rekz]

Seems I picked a good week to take a break from the top-ten guessing game

[chickythelittlechicken]

Wait then why didn't Please Please Please leave the top 10? Is it not already 20+ weeks old?

[RoseColoredGirl]

Nov 17, 2024 22:20:29 GMT -5 chickythelittlechicken said:

Wait then why didn't Please Please Please leave the top 10? Is it not already 20+ weeks old?

Yep, it's over 20 weeks old. Hot AC has a rule that in addition to songs being below #10 and 20 weeks old, songs can also be eligible for recurrency if they are 40 weeks old and below #5. It rarely happens, but "Lose Control" went recurrent over there earlier this year when it fell below #5, because it had been on the chart for 40 weeks. I'm imagining the new rule here might be something similar (maybe they can go recurrent below #5 if they're 25+ weeks old, in addition to the 20 weeks and below #10 rule still being a thing).

[southerninternal999]

Nov 17, 2024 22:20:29 GMT -5 chickythelittlechicken said:

Wait then why didn't Please Please Please leave the top 10? Is it not already 20+ weeks old?

I think I cracked the code. So now, besides the normal recurrency rule, there's one for inside the top 10. I think after a song spends 20+ weeks in the top 10, it could go recurrent if it's outside the top 5 and unbulleted. (So, pretty much what RoseColoredGirl said)

Under that logic, PPP didn't go recurrent because this is its 19th week in the top 10.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Nov 17, 2024 21:25:54 GMT -5 nick64 said:

As much as I’ve hated the ridiculous longevity of songs lately, changing the recurrency rules is definitely not what I wanted. “Top 10” feels so sacred, and now it just… isn’t :/

It’s now totally within the realm of possibility that a song goes recurrent from the #1 position.

[greggpo]

GWEN STEFANI "Somebody Else's" will probably make the top 50 sometime this week; It's already top 50 on the all station list.

[leonagwen]

Nov 17, 2024 22:50:45 GMT -5 greggpo said:

GWEN STEFANI "Somebody Else's" will probably make the top 50 sometime this week; It's already top 50 on the all station list.

How? Kiss FM Los Angeles is basically the only station giving it good spins. A few stations probably gave it a couple of spins Friday and Saturday because of the album release.

[greggpo]

Nov 17, 2024 23:03:26 GMT -5 leonagwen said:

Nov 17, 2024 22:50:45 GMT -5 greggpo said:

GWEN STEFANI "Somebody Else's" will probably make the top 50 sometime this week; It's already top 50 on the all station list.

How? Kiss FM Los Angeles is basically the only station giving it good spins. A few stations probably gave it a couple of spins Friday and Saturday because of the album release.

Spin threshold is getting fairly low especially the way "Liberian Girl" is dropping. "Somebody Else's" is possibly the only song above 100 spins not yet in the top 50.

[Pat the Cat]

Nov 17, 2024 21:24:11 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

I don’t like it cuz now some records will never be broken.

Please don't tempt them...

[Cerebro]

Nov 17, 2024 22:41:19 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Nov 17, 2024 21:25:54 GMT -5 nick64 said:

As much as I’ve hated the ridiculous longevity of songs lately, changing the recurrency rules is definitely not what I wanted. “Top 10” feels so sacred, and now it just… isn’t :/

It’s now totally within the realm of possibility that a song goes recurrent from the #1 position.

Yeah, that's definitely possible. If a song drops out of the top 5 from #1 and has been in the top 10 for over 20 weeks (if that's, indeed, the new rule), it'll fall straight to recurrency.